Thompson: McCain Isn't A Showboating Celeb
Fred Thompson's speech tonight at the Republican Convention will pitch John McCain as the steady leader ready to guide America -- and he'll take some none-too-subtle hits against Obama as a show-boater.
"When he travels abroad, he prefers quietly speaking to the troops amidst the heat and hardship of their daily lives," Thompson will say, according to pre-released excerpts -- a possible reference to the GOP's false accusation that Obama has canceled visits with troops because he couldn't get any publicity out of it, and that he'd rather speak to big crowds in Europe.
"And the same character that marked John McCain's military career has also marked his political career," Thompson will say. "This man, John McCain, is not intimidated by what the polls say or by what is politically safe or popular."















THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR MCCAIN!!!
!!!JohnSidneyMcmanymansionsmentum™!!!!
September 2, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well look who the cat drug in.
September 2, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
In short, John McCain is THE MAVERICK™!
September 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, he sure the hell is intimidated by the lunatic fringe of the religious right.
September 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can say that again, Thompson.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!
September 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Old Fred is simply making the case against McCain when says "This man, John McCain, is not intimidated by what the polls say or by what is politically safe or popular."
The country cries out for leadership in health care, energy, and the economy, and these ideas are very popular.
But let's not that stand in the way of now TWO bulls in the china shoppe. All we've gotten from McCain is his traler-drama of a veep pick.
Keith O is visibly itching to get started on her.
September 2, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might like this: http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN0243503220080902?virtualBrandChannel=10112
Reuters is saying the bloggers forced the McLame campaign to reveal the daughter's pregnancy before they were ready to.
As far as I'm concerned, that is a job well done indeed!
September 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was this posted about Palin?
Seem like MORE bad news:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot
September 2, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just saw that - can you believe it?
And fall arrived today in Taos, and I made pralines just because; too bad y'all aren't here - I could share.
September 2, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you send some of those pralines to the TPM offices? Maybe if we butter them up they'll think about fixing the server.
September 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we need to take up a donation and buy them a real server.
September 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for finding that...LOL!
I think the long weekend ended up beeing a boon to citizen/web 2.0/whatever political activism...
September 2, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Thompson manages to not take a nap on the podium or put his audience into a boredom-addled state of shock then I'll consider his speech a win. This guy had nothing on the campaign trail. He better reach deep if he wants to connect.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
September 2, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait, Fred Thompson is criticizing someone over being a celebrity??!!?!?!
September 2, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
September 2, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Loved it when Thompson said
Just what did Fred do in Washington other than hit the talk show / cocktail circuit?
But yeah, it sucks to have to buy a new irony meter (next time I guess I will pony up for the service plan).
September 3, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is Hounddog-Fred Palin's (or Sarah Palenty) replacement VPbot?
This is the speech that Rude-EE Gooliani should given . . .
September 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's fascinating to see how the Republicans are framing themselves to the right of Attila the Hun.
September 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know.
I really thought they might have a chance if McLame moved to the middle and picked a moderate Repug with some financial sense for a running mate.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
"This man, John McCain, is not intimidated by what the polls say or by what is politically safe or popular."
Isn't this the man that was pressured out of picking Joe Lieberman in favor of a "base rallyer" in Sarah Palin?
September 2, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rachel Maddow is opining that the party is taking a hard right turn tonight at a moment when all the issues favor the dems. The only people in the hall are the uber-fundies who would jail any woman at puberty and rub their hands greedily over her ovaries.
Keith wants to unload, you can see it...
September 2, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
They're obviously going hard right, but why? Do they think it can work this year?
September 2, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chuck Todd reported that the only people that wanted to be delegates were super-conservative party activists that wanted to write the party platform.
Short answer is apparently because they're all a bit nuts.
September 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As my wonderful and much missed dad used to say:
Not only no, but hell no!
September 2, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope. They are trying to hold on to their red strongholds. The GOP candidate for senate in Idaho is advertising on the sidebar of the HUFFINGTON POST! Not looking good for the GOP at the moment.
September 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
And keep her barefoot and pregnant. I keep seeing the camera panning over the audience and it sure does not reflect a cross section of american society. Primarily the audience is over-weight old white males with comb overs. Too funny.
On another note, I hate specter as well. What an a**. He is "independent"? An independent blowhard that votes 90% with his party. I hope the dems bring in a good candidate in two years to take him down. What a putz.
September 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't I hear somewhere that they were paying people to attend McCain's speech on Thursday??
September 2, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thompson to claim that Obama is most 'Liberal' and most 'Inexperienced' candidate to EVER run for President.
September 2, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, after a few days of seeing these lunatics in action, liberal may become a reformed word.
September 2, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I honestly think Obama and the rest of the Democratic leaders who spoke at the convention already made that pretty damn clear.
Nobody is crouching over and whispering about the fact that they are liberals, anymore.
Pretty soon it's going to be hard to find a conservative.
;)
September 2, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
O - I just got it - the avatars are gone.
That's why the pages are loading.
September 2, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought mine had been confiscated by the Secret Service. My city is under occupation.
September 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn
September 2, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like that you had to include the Wikipedia link. I guess we're all old now.
September 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I didn't want all the young whippersnappers around here to just think that I was completely insane.
September 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was 2 years old when that movie was released ;)
September 2, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. That's the 2nd time in as many weeks that you've made me feel very old. :-)
September 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, that was funny.
September 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm the worst political pessimist on earth and even I'm not worried about Fred Freaking Thompson boilerplating Obama tonight. And Lieberman? It's LIEBERMAN.
Klondike Barbie might put one over on the country whenever she gets up there, but so what? The die is cast, any effect will be fleeting.
September 2, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's not intimidated by anyone.
Except fundamentalist mullahs, be they Muslim or Christian. Who forced him to choose the most ridiculous joke of a candidate in history over far more experienced choices like Olympia Snowe, all over whether women who've been raped should be forced to bear the children of their rapist.
September 2, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can FEEEL the energy building towards McCain's huge speech this week... I think right?
Or was it opening night of football...
September 2, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand why you all are all so bullish on Palin imploding. I think the Orr piece The Case against the Case is exactly right. Palin is dangerous. She is galvanizing his base and all this negative press will slide right by them. Maybe the swing voters will come over to Obama and he will be able to beat that Republican majority, but it's going to be a close race now. I don't understand why everyone thinks he will dump her. I think dumping her would be admitting defeat and what's the point in that? The evangelicals would revolt and the swing vote might not counter that. Tell me why I'm wrong. I am really worried about Palin. If she's spun as lightweight by the Dems, they may just sail into the election with a huge underground advantage. After all the average voter DID vote in Bush 2 terms, despite all his incredible lack of foreign policy smarts and the war.
September 2, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it works. They can't have the far right and the middle at the same time -- not in this election. The only way they wake up the base is by going FURTHER to the right, which they're apparently doing tonight.
The times aren't right. They truly have nothing to run ON.
September 2, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
She'll also galvinize our base. (Why oh why does no one on our side ever try to galvinize our base.)
September 2, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you're totally right -- this is going to awaken and realign the actual left with Obama.
The more I think about it, the more this seems to be an effort to try and shore up the congressional losses. I genuinely think they know they're not going to win the presidency, but they've been losing congressional races in historically conservative places for the last 2 years and they're spooked. I think Palin's about stopping the bleeding -- she'll shore up some districts with the base and she'll raise money and volunteers from the fundies (to run an unsuccessful campaign).
But let's be clear on one thing -- Fred Thompson fucking sucks.
September 2, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're full of it.
September 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was meant for the Concerned Visitor.
September 2, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are wrong....he is not energizing his base....he is energizing part of his base: the American Taliban. As a result, he will not only lose the middle, I think he's going to alienate a lot of fiscally conservative Republicans who are ready for a purification of the party.
In addition, Democratic registration is WAY up....if it's his base against ours, we still win.
You're right, though. This election's going to be close, but I've always thought it was going to be close.
September 2, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
O just exactly right.
And what about all those concerned and scared and security conscious soccer moms that we heard so very fucking much about? Yo? They gone?
Cause Security and Gramps 'n Gidget don't compute.
That galloping sound you keep hearing is independents and undecideds headed our way.
September 2, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I don't think it is going to be close. McLame will carry the racists, the totally Godcrazy, and maybe some billionaires just cause he's a Repug and they get stupider the more they pile up, apparently.
But that's it.
The rest of the country is voting Democratic.
September 2, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I look forward to hearing you say "I told you so" over and over and over again on election night. :-)
September 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really don't think this election's going to be as close as we think it is. I honestly think the Obama ground game is going to be that good. I might be overly optimistic, and it's good to be cautious, but I just don't even know what the pitch for McCain actually is anymore.
September 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, Obama already has lawyers volunteering for election day & my sister is one of the volunteers she says they are "training" them already on election laws for our state and what to look for.
Go get 'em Obama.
September 2, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read an article in the Wall Street Journal today that did a great job outlining the dilemma that Senator McCain is facing. He has to accomplish two goals: energize the conservative base that might be drifting toward Senator Obama, and also attract moderate and independent voters.
In past elections, the Republicans were able to win just by turning out their base, but that's no longer true since registered Democrats outnumber Republicans. So Senator McCain now has to attract both the base and the moderates.
He was hoping to accomplish both by choosing Governor Palin because he somehow convinced himself that women and moderates will automatically vote for him because she's a woman. But all she has done is to cement the conservatives - she's way too far right to appeal to independents. So now Senator McCain is screwed - he has lost any chance of attracting moderate voters, and there aren't enough conservatives to overwhelm the Democrats.
September 2, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred Thompson is on a television show and doesn't have the chops to run anything even as big as a small presidential campaign. his insights into what makes a good leader will be invaluable.
it's hilarious that the Republicans wail about "celebrity" when the man they fall all over themselves trying to deify came to fame as a Hollywood actor: Ronald Reagan. oh, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, the bodybuilder and action movie star turned REPUBLICAN governor of California. and Fred Thompson, the REPUBLICAN who makes his living doing a legal drama TV SHOW who ran for President just a few months ago.
but no, it's Barack Obama who's the celebrity just because he attracts lots of people to his speeches and rallies. as though that were a bad thing.
it's as though in order to be a Republican you have to have no sense of self-reflection or irony.
September 2, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember when columns were what passed for a scandal?
Good times.
September 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This Top Republican always has the facial expression;
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/rnc-boehner-sg-big.jpg
of a constipated Weasel!
September 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The press has a very short window open as to how long they will be patient for an interview. I hope reporters see this has chance to hone the long knives.
And she will sail through them all, at least according to her, but what it will reveal will make the rest of country grab their pearls. On no issue is either she or McCain any longer in the mainstream.
Let her stay as long as possible to cement a defeat to this nonsense.
September 2, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Klondike Barbie if you want to call her that can only be covered like this, assuming she does well as expected:
1) Rousing speech by Klondike Barbie.
2) Talibangelical base loved it and you can really see it here tonight. Very excited.
3) Questions remain, though, as to whether it will be enough, though, to overcome so many issues that she's had in recent days such as a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j.
4) Her speaking skills aside, many people seeing her as a liability as John McCain's numbers dropping in polls, and some are asking was it wise to make the choice and is that the kind of decionmaking they're looking for, to use Hillary's phrase, in a 3am phone call.
5) Still, Talibangelicals here tonight representing one wing of the party roared their approval, blah-blah.
September 2, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain couldn't even go on Larry King Live.
What a wimp!!!
September 2, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't been following the situation in St. Paul re: protests/arrests to closely. Obviously the GOP spins it as "lunatic fringe" but, how can THAT be good news for them?
In '68 the Dems were bitterly divided and 40 years later the GOP is whack...too bad it isn't crew-cuts and wingtips in the streets...?
My mind is melting down...
September 2, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Friends,
I didn't have access to a Showboat for five and a half years.
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/q/F/2/pow-card-lk0827d.jpg
McCAIN/FAILIN' 2008BC YUP! YUP!
September 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
What energized the evangelical base in 2004 were anti gay marriage ballot measures. You had them in 11 states including Michigan, Oregon and Ohio. They passed in all 11 states.
Putting Palin on the ticket isn't going to come close to providing that kind of energy for the evangelical base - especially since I'm guessing that there are lots of these folks that realize what a crap move this was on McCain's part.
September 2, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I actually agree with you.
The women I know, evangelical and not, have pretty much reacted just as I thought they would: She needs to go home and take care of those kids.
The pregnant daughter really did seal that deal - women realized that yeah, maybe she has some of the same ideas that they have, but she has fucked up priorities.
September 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, if I hear these f*ckers say that mcbush and palin are from the teddy roosevelt wing of the party one more time, I am going to throw my tv out the window. Teddy roosevelt would hate the republican party of 2008 and he sure wouldn't back mcbush and pailin. He would probably hate the dems as well, because they have gone corporate, but he sure as sh*t wouldn't be a gd republican in 2008. These assholes have no shame. Why doesn't a gd journalist get an intern to pull one of tr's speeches about his policies and throw it in these jerk's faces. UGH! Republicans, the party of no shame.
September 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
No shame at all.
My god - Teddy was a raging liberal compared to these guys.
Nixon was a liberal compared to these guys.
September 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely. I would say that teddy was more liberal than the dems of the last 30 years. It so pisses me off. Teddy roosevelt wing of the party. What a joke.
September 2, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
They aren't anything other than the Fanatic Fascist Wing of the Repug Party. I don't think they can get much more right wing without declaring a dictatorship and rounding people up.
And Bush and Cheney are still in the White House - so I don't mean to invoke demons.
September 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It really is disturbing when you think about it. This is the 21st century. How can this be happening? I really don't get it.
By the way, I just saw a funny. Mitchell was asking carly "I don't have a clue" fiorina about what she thought about palin. Right after the question, you could see mitchell visably grimace. It was hilarious. Republicans are so out of touch. Their rhetoric and bs totally just doesn't match their actions. I really hope that for once america wakes up this time.
September 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Way out here among McCain's targeted countries (where are those borders again?), the BBC just came on with 5 minutes of Convention. It was withering and I was stunned. All Palin, all negative, interrupted by some countrified Stepford Wife representative from Oklahoma doing a bad Elizabeth Dole impresson.
BBC saying Palin has cancelled events and is basically in hiding. AIP running as a stripe on screen bottom. McCain expected to pay a price for this, explains Halperin in their interview. Really unbelievable.
September 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know - it is. I said yesterday that someone is going to have to pick my jaw up off the floor for me when this is over.
September 2, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
M'dear, I've had rugburn on my chin since she was announced! At least with this GOP pick, you don't have to wait for the scandel. Just add water! And a little vetting.
If she really has gone into hiding, she has until er-lye Friday morn to come out.
September 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
hee hee hee hee hee! I really love that er-lye Friday morn.
LOL!
And we haven't even gotten to the really good stuff yet - there's still Troopergate looming - she lawyered up for a reason.
LOL!
September 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of the uninspiring hacks that make-up the McCain entourage, what is it I'm supposed to find Carly Fiorina an expert on? Making HP completely suck? If she were good at being a CEO, wouldn't she be a CEO somewhere else now?
September 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keeping her own a** out of jail. That's about it. Economic expert???? Why don't these jerk reporters bring up her time at hp? It would make people's hair stand on end. Talk about a free pass. Pathetic.
September 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Carly fired thousands of workers, then wrote herself a fat paycheck and then left. HP's stock price dropped over 30% under her "leadership". She's and true Republican.
September 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It really is absolutely astounding that I'm supposed to take her seriously. It boggles the mind.
September 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg or Erik - post this? Maybe tomorrow morning?
September 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_slashed_funding_to_help.html?hpid=artslot
September 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for this, elonepb. More ugliness for the sugary sweet darling of the Talibangelicals.
September 2, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I posted that information, as a blog, about an hour ago.
Go to the link, and click on recommend if you want to keep it in front of the readers eyes.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/palin-slashed-funding-for-teen.php
September 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does Fred mean that since McCain doesn't care about poles or popular opinion, he won't respect election results either? Just asking....
September 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
O don't start -
that's the only remaining anxiety I have about this election and I'm trying to get it under control.
September 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so wound up I could pop any minute. MSM been protect these criminals too long. I've lost faith in humanity. I keep waiting for one of those "Let them eat cake" moments to arrive.
September 2, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Leslie Sanchez just said McCain and Palin want to change Washington, and Obama and Biden want to change America... Is that the new talking point. If so, she seems like one of the first to get the memo. More proof she's a Republican Hack... as if we need more proof.
September 2, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well that didn't take long.
September 2, 2008 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
"McCain Isn't A Showboating Celeb" ... says the celebrity.
September 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want to watch Fred's speech for one reason. Fred is the type of guy who will go off script if he sees the crowd is not into him to try and liven it up. Thats where he got in trouble during his campaign. He may do it tonight.
September 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
and this is why i can't watch the RNC.
My head will explode if i watch it live.
thank the FSM for Jon Stewart, blogs, and youtube.
September 2, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm an Obama supporter so please be gentle with me after I say this: By the time this GOP convention is over, Obama, bless his heart, will not have the same lead he has now.
Why? You might ask. Well, pretty much, the GOP is going to make him look like the Bambi they made him out to be pre-his Denver speech.
And Obama and Biden can't attack Palin because, yup, you guessed it, she's a woman. And after she gives her speech, all the women are gonna get all teary eyed and emotional (yes even female democrats) and throw their support behind the McCain ticket. Not all women, the smart women will be able to see right through it. But that George Bush part of the electorate...you know...the same type of voter that would actually vote for George Bush if he was allowed a third term.
(Oh, and I'm a woman by the way)
September 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree there's some maddening truth to this, but I think you're overstating it. Media right now is eating Palin alive.
Americans want more than anything else a President they can trust their safety to. The conclusion they are forming now is that McCain is not that President.
September 2, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah that's true. But don't you think this will all back fire in favor of the Repubs? I mean, women tend to feel sorry for other women when they're being attacked. Don't ask me why they'd sympathize with her...sometimes I don't understand my gender.
September 2, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chicacalifornia, you're right. This will be out there. But those women are going to have other people around them who are going to say, "Okay, we hear what you are saying but this is ridiculous. We are talking about the Presidency here. Have you been following this?!" And some of your teary-eyed women will resist that. But it won't be enough.
And I agree with Tena when she basically says many women will look at this and say, "Even if I share some of her ideas (and perhaps even feel her pain), she has got some problems (like her troubled family) and she needs to deal with them." And you know what, there's an emotion within an emotion here: if she can't be a responsible mother, how can she be a responsible President.
September 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see your point...I'm crossing my fingers.
September 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. At least for today, the MSM spin is extremely negative. For once, they are actually framing the Republicans as far right.
September 2, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, and here's the thing -- she can give a knock-down, drag-out "I'm a reformer, I took on special interests, blah blah" speech tomorrow with all the spunk in the world but the stories that are still under the radar are going to come out AFTER that speech, i.e, how she didn't really oppose the Bridge to Nowhere, how she was a Ted Stevens ally, how she fired all the city managers for not being loyal, etc.
Next week is when the story really falls apart.
September 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
But what about the speech on race that Obama gave after his pastor wright attack. He actually got a lot of respect for giving that speech.
You know she's gonna try to pull the same thing.
September 2, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
That won't work. We are talking about the Presidency here. And she's a carpetbagger. Plus, a lot of women who went down this ridiculous path with Hillary and now seeing how cynically they we taken for fools.
September 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're giving her emotional appeal wayyyyyy too much credit. Obama may be the only person in the history of this country that could've actually given that speech -- he lived it and he wrote it. What's her moral high ground here? What's her pitch? They're casting her as this "regular person" that understands regular people's problems, so she, ummmmmmm, votes Republican? In this election? I would be flabbergasted if this woman makes any kind of a pitch that does anything but shore up the Republican base.
September 2, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, she couldn't hold a candle to Obama.
September 2, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep.
September 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
BS, Palin can be bated. You watch.
September 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's OK. Women are every bit as good at concern-trolling as men.
September 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy you got that - hell of an attitude about the rest of us that "woman" has.
September 2, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe, maybe not. A large segment are going to be in the "she needs to stay home with those kids" camp. In fact, since the announcement, none of the women I have spoken to are in any other camp about this.
The judgement is poor, and this is the line Obama must walk. There is so much public policy she's gotten wrong that the kids need not ever come up.
September 2, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's actually very true. I just hope it turns out like that. But why every time I trust the American electorate to see straight through this...I get disappointed every time.
September 2, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
You just watch in these next few days....
September 2, 2008 9:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really don't think it's happening. Their message discipline is all over the place. I don't think they're going to cut through to any independents without saying anything positive. Where do they want to take America? Apparently they want to outlaw abortion. That's all we've got so far. They're just trying to survive the week without looking stupider than they already do.
September 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
IF you really are a woman, how can you think the rest of us are so fucking stupid that we'll tear up and vote for Klondike Barbie?
You have a rather skewed opinion of our gender.
September 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calm down now. No need to get our blood pressure above 140...Just sayin, there's voters that actually do vote based on emotions. Look what happened in the primaries. Look how we got Bush elected twice. There are actually voters who aren't as throughful as we are when we step into that voting booth.
September 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
"John McCain will not take politically popular positions."
In other words. . . Vote for McCain because it takes courage to stick with Bush's failed policies even after they become terrifically unpopular.
September 2, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just think about it: People wanting to give the old man the benefit of the doubt just saw his first big decision.
He totally fucked it up, from A to Z. Voters know that they themselves would easily have made a better decision.
How are they supposed to feel?
September 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I posted this information, as a blog, about an hour ago.
Go to the link, and click on recommend if you want to keep it in front of the readers eyes.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/palin-slashed-funding-for-teen.php
Oh yes she did! YUP! YUP!
September 2, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
To me the difference in the speeches of both parties is starling. Democrats are blowing Republicans away in the inspiration department. The crowds are different too. Anyone else notice this?
September 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for telling us because I'm just not in the mood to be watching any of the RNC right now. I'm really irritated by them to be honest with you. I'll need people like you to give feedback...because I certainly am not about to turn on CNN, MSNBC, and definitely not FOX news.
September 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It really looks like a wake. Also, almost all the hacks they ask about palin seem to have a hard time singing her praises. We may be witnessing the beginning of the end of a political party. It's about time.
September 2, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Crossing my fingers...
September 2, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
There ya go!
September 2, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I also don't get the tough as nails POW paired with Barbie. Even if people get all gaga over Barbie's homey story, you cut to the POW theme and it immediately reminds you that we aren't doing a reality TV gig - this is the real deal.
September 2, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
showboating celeb=??? are we back to the uppity meme again? and people say conservatives don't believe in recycling. you have to love the messenger they chose though, Senator turned Actor turned presidential candidate, lol congrats RNC you get bonus points for this one.
September 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forget the rules don't apply to them, only poor liberals.
September 2, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this may be the official death of:
IOKIYAR!
I really think it may just have been assassinated by the deadly team of Gramps 'n Gidget.
September 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why didn't they nominate Laura?
September 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"you might call that change you can really believe in." Snooooooze.
September 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Breaking News:
Media is now reporting that there have been seven sightings of a black person at the Republican Convention in St. Paul.
This figure is way higher than attendance experts had projected to be at the convention.
Some of them experts have expressed skepticism about the count, and have suggested that the Republicans may be creating the illusion of such a massive attendance by black people.
One reason for their skepticism is that the description of all seven sightings has been very similar, and describe pretty much the same looking black man riding a Segway around the convention floor.
September 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see a lot of smirking faces. The speakers can barely get the words out. It's as though they are choking on all the BS coming out. Laura's card reading put one veteran to sleep practically.
September 2, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy crap! Ron Paul just literally ROCKED HIS HOUSE!
Oh ... shit; they just switched to the GOP convention. I'm not sure - but it seems like the Paul rally was bigger; it sure was louder.
Oh, now it's monkey-in-chief. Ron Paul was better honestly. He had some really good quotes, too bad nobody covered it. That's where the rest of the republicans were.
POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW .... gack!
September 2, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush is giving a grade school level speech about Mr. McPOW. How these people get away with talking about human rights is beyond me. I also wonder what kind of meds they have Bush Sr. on for him to be sitting there dry eyed like that. He's there as Cindy's support. Ha there it is folks 9/11. Read em and weep.
September 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol@ "grade school level speech about Mr. McPOW"
That was funny!
September 2, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh-oh...it's Dubya time!!!!
September 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
omg. This is just too delicious. Mr. Law and Order going after somebody?
September 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watched Pickles and the Chimp-in-Charge spew BS.
I have never seen so many old white folks in any place at any time. Scary.
September 2, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep - and the Libertarians are quickly going to become serious contenders, I think. I think they will pick up a lot of ex-Repugs - they are already making inroads in Texas.
They are dangerous, too. Libertarianism is nothing more than legal "Me First and Fuck you."
We're going to have another fight on our hands. But then, don't we always?
September 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That seems to be Ron Paul's stated plan (challenge the GOP - either from within or without and become a dominant force).
Fortunately for this election - they have no love of McCain and there is a lot of anger/backstabbing at the state level.
CSpan just reported that the Paul rally has at least as many people as the GOP one. I love it!
September 2, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we just learned "at the feet of the master" how to fuck up beyond recognition a fairly easy Veep choice..
September 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dubya was truly awful.
September 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Golly, you watched? Must have been painful. Nice to hear he fell on his ugly face.
September 2, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watched Pickles and the Chimp-in-Charge spew BS.
I have never seen so many old white folks in any place at any time. Scary.
September 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I must be watching CSPAN repeat or something....
September 2, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watched Pickles and the Chimp-in-Charge spew BS.
I have never seen so many old white folks in any place at any time. Scary.
September 2, 2008 10:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watched Pickles and the Chimp-in-Charge spew BS.
I have never seen so many old white folks in any place at any time. Scary.
September 2, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
They have an info commercial on the Reagan. lies....
September 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh boy, HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S FREDDDDDD!!!
September 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it's any consolation, it sounds tougher when you read his speech than when you watch it. I never make old man jokes, but I really, really want to. He's BORING.
September 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Largest state of the Union"
lololol
September 2, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, I am on delay because I dvr'd this crap. Everyone should watch a little of this nightmare. How do people buy this garbage? I just want to hurl. It is truly bizarre.
September 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
chicalifornia - I'm sorry - I don't mean to be mean - I just have always been opposed to the idea that the American Electorate is stupid. The idea got started when Bush won - even though he stole the election. And then he stole '04. And in Dallas, TExas, in '04, I wasn't the only person wandering around crying after that election - everybody I ran into was. Nobody could believe it.
Then in '06 - why do I have to keep reminding people? Off-year elections do count - especially when a party in power is thrown out and we threw them out in '06, right and left.
Doesn't that tell anyone about Americans? Or is it too much fun to stand up on a pedestal and remark on the stupidity of the people below? I'm sorry - it but I've been bugged by that attitude for a long time - I'm from Texas and that attitude bleeds all the way over into thinking all of us in Texas are idiots, and we aren't. So I'm on a crusade, I guess, to try to get liberals to stop thinking everyone else but liberals are stupid.
I'm not talking Repugs in power - they are stupid. I just mean Americans in general.
September 2, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
TinaX, I grew up in South Carolina, people think we are all idiots too.
September 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Tena,
No need to apologize or explain. I guess I came off the wrong way. I totally understand your point. I was raised and still live in a very "liberal" blue state (California and Illinois). The first time I step foot in Texas was actually last week (go figure).
I didn't mean to offend you or anyone. Sometimes I just get a little frustrated when SOME people vote based on emotions or wedge issues that allow the Repubs to steal the election every single time. I'm not even a liberal and I can see that.
I guess all of my ranting is out of frustration...that's all.
BTW, when I actually realized who you were...I said wait a minute...Tena's actually really cool. I love reading your posts. You crack me up. You're always on point.
September 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, John McCain dated a stripper named "Marie, the Flame of Florida" -- Whaaaaaaaaaa? What just happened?
The stripper got him through Viet Nam? Is anyone else watching this? What the shit is going on?
September 2, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
hey, stop it, he was a POW. POWs are given a "strippers are OK" card
September 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Old men telling old war stories. What does that have to do with the future of this country?
September 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gawd, this so depressing....
September 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
How come Fred Thompson can say that "being a POW doesn't qualify you to be president" but General Wesley Clark can't?
September 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, McCain is back to saying he gave his captors the names of the offensive line of the Green Bay Packers? Back in the spring he said it was the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm surprised he didn't say Minnesota Vikings considering the venue in St. Paul.
September 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow,fred thompson u got the nerves callin barack a fu#kin celebrity when u played in die hard 2 wit bruce willis,bill paxton and john amos,mccain called prime minister putin from russia,president putin of germany!!!
September 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well the pro-life statement finally got the crowd jazzed.
September 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friend I was inna prison camp for 5 yrs as POW my friends,I will veto every single croc shoes,bret favre plays 4 tha pittsburgh steelers WOW!!!
September 2, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
that throat clear of Thompson's has me a bit concerned about his health
September 2, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Thompson sucked, really bad. I think that he may be ill.
On the content, these people are totally delusional. If we had pols saying this kind of crap during wwII, we would have lost. It is really disturbing.
September 2, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
That old, fake Ronald Reagan wannabe is actually alive?
September 2, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, this played well to the misinformed limbaugh types.. Please break down this speech in detail here soon... it had every right wing myth in the book.
September 2, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to IMDB, Fred Thompson has been an actor in 38 different roles. And if you ask me, his performance in Curly Sue as Bernie Oxbar was definitely showboating. Don't even get me started on Iron Eagle III...
September 2, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Sorry I presented a view not in keeping with everyone else. I guess that's because I'm not a political person. Just reading blogs because I'm interested in this election. I work with people who don't read anything but People or whatever else is in the doctor's office and what is recommended on Sunday. I hope you all are right. I hope the average voter will see through Palin. I have to say I'm pretty offended to be dismissed as a concern troll. Gave 500 plus to Obama myself and I work for $9/hr. There are a lot of women out there who are not stupid but who vote based on the wedge issues. This election hasn't changed that, but more of them are concerned about economics and I hope that will sway them. Meanwhile you will be happy to know that I won't be back because you all are really rude. I used to like this blog because people were interested in discussion and there was less of the blogger attack and destroy dissenting opinions. oh well. No doubt you will assume I'm a Republican plant. Hope you all can say I told you so over and over, but the past 20 years have taught me to be less hopeful.
September 3, 2008 7:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is not a showboating celebrity? As opposed to what? Fred Thompson, a genuine movie star?
Anyone who would believe Fred Thompson on the subject of celebrity would believe just about anything.
September 3, 2008 7:42 AM | Reply | Permalink