Polls: Ohio Again Tied; Palin Approval Plunges
Here's a bit of interesting polling data from around the Web. The new CNN poll of polls finds virtual dead heats in Ohio and Indiana:
According to averages of several recent surveys from both states, Obama holds a slim 1 point lead in Ohio (46-45 percent) and McCain holds a small 2 point lead in Indiana (47-45 percent).The Ohio poll of polls consists of three surveys: Big Ten Battleground (September 14-17), CNN/Time/ORC (September 14-16), and Marist (September 11-15). The Indiana general election poll of polls also consists of three surveys: Big Ten Battleground (September 14-17), CNN/Time/ORC (September 14-16), and Indianapolis Star/WTHR (September 14-16).
One of the grimmer consequences of McCain's post-convention bounce had been the spate of polls showing him with a decided edge in Ohio. Now it appears to have slipped into a dead heat, with Obama up one on average.
Meanwhile, however, McCain gains in CNN's newly revised battleground state map:
CNN now estimates that if the presidential election were held today, Barack Obama would capture 223 electoral votes, to McCain's 200, leaving 115 electoral votes would still be up for grabs. The 23 electoral-vote-lead for Obama is down from a 44-point estimated lead he held in CNN's previous electoral map. Both men are well short of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House.
And this is a real doozy: The DailyKos/Research 2000 daily tracking poll finds that Sarah Palin's approval ratings are plunging with astonishing speed.
Thanks for that info, Greg!
Heckuva lot more encouraging than last week at this point.
I think dembillc's head is exploding right now....
September 19, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
The cool thing about these polling numbers is that they actually poll for dates before the worst of the problem on Wall Street, and before a very effective Obama response on these matters, alongside some very effective ads by his campaign, and general McCain cluelessness... and all of them are before the Palins broke their promise to the people of Alaska to cooperate with their bipartisan investigation, ordered overwhelmingly by a Republican majority legislature.
On average, we're getting a snapshot of about five days ago... and that's not good news at all for McCain, because this isn't likely to get much better, any time soon.
The people who need to make their minds up are officially tired of the distractions, and the Obama campaign is the one serving up both character and substance!
September 19, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has exploded!
Just imagine what the polls will be like next week!
September 19, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
More goo news and I supect as days go by it will just get better
September 19, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg - darlin, your Kos tracking poll link doesn't work for me
September 19, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry, should be working in a few minutes
September 19, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Click here, dear Tena, and this should take you to the poll results in question.
September 19, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Greg and thank you, dear Missouri Voter - that was well worth seeing.
LOL!
September 19, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd consider the source.
September 19, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would recommend this interactive EV calculator from the Princeton Election Consortium.
You can click on each state, cycling if through red-white-blue, and see its effects on the EC vote totals.
September 19, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You WOULD recommend it or you ARE recommending it?
September 19, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes.
September 19, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
September 19, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has Palin magically transformed from a life raft to a cinder block tied around McCain's ankle?
September 19, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
And to add insult into injury, a cinder block draws bigger crowds than him.
September 19, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fishies love cinderblocks, don't they?
September 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
at least intellectually
September 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I guess Iowa (+11 for Obama in latest poll) did take to her too well.
September 19, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dare I say "dead moose bounce"?
September 19, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can vote on a PBS.com poll on whether you think Palin is qualified. Right now it's at 51%/43% for No/Yes.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
September 19, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! The PBS site uses a Perl script to count the votes!
September 19, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, open source is good. Anyway, it's better than using Access like those Diebold machines that actually register the votes. Security? What's that?
Just click your heels and repeat,
There's no place like 127.0.0.1, there's no place like 127.0.0.1, there's no place like 127.0.0.1 ....
September 19, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOcaLhost!
September 19, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
That poll has been freeped.
It is in dire need of being unfreeped.
Go vote everybody. I don't want NPR announcing that a majority of people think she's qualified.
September 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Nice Polite Republicans would never do that!
September 19, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure what freeped means, but if it means what I think it does, I pioneered the practice ages ago when the NLP/Perot Reform Party would storm any online poll _en masse_ and show that John Hagelin was beating all comers in online popularity. Tweaked the heck out of the Buchananistas.
September 19, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what it means.
It's called "freeped" in "honor" of Free Republic.
The Freepers.
September 19, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's more or less correct. From "Free Republic"--they used to issue these calls to arms to go swarm online polls. Maybe they still do.
I am aware of all internet traditions™
September 19, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you mean more or less? LOL!
You just elaborated on what I said.
Atrios used to have a "permanent" link to torture Wolf Blitzer by slamming his online polls. I think it's long gone -
September 19, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you check your left alignment: I was responding to LDE. Yours posted while I was still writing mine. But yeah, apparently we are both aware of all Internet traditions.™
September 19, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now it's at 51% Yes, 43% No!!
Did you key in the numbers backward, or is PBS getting freeped?
September 19, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
see just above. :)
September 19, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
There must have been a very small number of votes originally and a large number of freepers (is that a noun?), given how quickly it is moving. I just voted and it is 54%-40% in favor of Palin.
September 19, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was the same result when I voted.
September 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you happen to go on to look at the Now interview with Palin she gave last month?
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/434/video-webex.html
September 19, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
there's also a poll on who's better qualified to deal with the economy, Barack or Johnny.
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-437.html
September 19, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
That poll is Bullshit.
I got this wingnut e-mail several days ago with this message:
Subject: FW: Let PBS know
Please click on the link below, it takes about 2 seconds to do. Thanks!
Visit the site below to cast your vote.
Let's turn this around!!!
Friends,
PBS has a short video on Sarah Palin on their website. Also included is a poll that asks: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP?
I logged on a few minutes ago and 33% percent had voted YES, 67% NO.
Let's turn this around..... You don't have to give your name or email address in order to vote. It's very simple.
Here's the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html
September 19, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope Obama comes here to Indiana. But I also think Biden would go over well, too.
September 19, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't John McCain wish he had selected Mitt Romney as his VP?
Didn't he leave Obama an opening on economic issues?
September 19, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I'm sure there are a lot in GOP that wished that Mitt was the nominee (curse you Huckabee!)
September 19, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since we've heard so much about Obama leaving McCain an opening with female voters by not selecting Hillary (I guess because women will vote for anyone with lady parts), I just assumed that we'll being hearing the same thing about McCain and Romeny.
Mitt is an idiot, but he'd sound a lot better talking about the economy than Mrs. Lipstick-on-a-barracuda-shooting-a-moose-from-an-airplane-P.S.-"thanks-but-no-thanks-okay-maybe."
September 19, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Saw him on CNN this week talking with Wolf. The media gives him a lot of economic wisdom because he ran a business. Mitt is pretty good at the political soundbite, and he is, from a GOP pov, pretty good at attacking the Obama approach to the economy.
I think McCain hates him (or is jealous or a little of both), because he would have been the perfect choice for the economy reasons.
September 19, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've suspected all along that McCain's VP choices were constrained by the fact that he hates most prominent Republicans, and that's the one thing he's not willing to overcome for political gain. Thus he was left with Lieberman and Ridge (who the base would have revolted against), and had to pick someone he doesn't know well enough to hate yet.
September 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how badly Romney really wants McCain to win. A McCain win essentially ends Romney's Presidential aspirations.
September 19, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good question. He has to play the loyal Republican, but aside from the occassional talking stint on CNN and such, he doesn't seem to be out there that much talking up the wonder and beauty that is McCain.
September 19, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would be willing to bet that Romney hates McLame right now.
September 19, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just not as much as he hates Huckabee.
September 19, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
????
why so? I honestly didn't know that.
September 19, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Had Huckabee not been there to take the evangel/social conservative vote, Mitt would have probably won Florida. McCain won (and took all the delegates) with 36%, to Mitt's 31%, with Huckabee taking 13%. Most of those voting for Huck would have probably voted for Mitt.
Same for California, Missouri, etc.
September 19, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah- thanks. I didn't pay that much attention to the Repug primary.
September 19, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Palin and all her leadership abilities. She handicaps McCain and provides no help besides making the ticket look better.
Game, set, match.
September 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
How come there's always that 'get ready to get frenched' picture of her . . .
September 19, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've wondered the same.
September 19, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have begged Greg to get rid of it. That picture creeps me out! I don't know how to get TPM to take it away do you?
September 19, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is disgusting. He is just doing it to piss us off.
September 19, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
No way --- I LOVE that photo. The creepiness is perfect.
TPM uses other shots of her from time to time. I hope they keep the same 'signature' pic though!
September 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
You and me both! Don't y'all dare get that picture taken down.
It's perfect!
September 19, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
unfortunately i think it helps her and mccain.
September 19, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
you guys are nuts. :-P
September 19, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
is a poll of a poll of a poll of a poll of a poll a poll?
September 19, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
No.
September 19, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
OH NO! CNN is reporting that Biden's in hot water with Ohioans, and that the race couldn't be closer, and now the Republicans are screaming that Biden's picking on the Buckeyes!!! OH NO!!!
And no, I am not making this up.
Sob! The race is OVER!!!
September 19, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the up side, shouldn't this improve the Obama/Biden ticket's standing in Michigan? I know that insults against Ohio State would be enough to push me over the edge into the supporter's column if I were an undecided voter.
September 19, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hail to the Victors valiant...
September 19, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michigan Sucks.
Everybody knows that.
September 19, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, we all know the great love Ohioans hold for their Michigan bretheren. Analagous to the love we native Kansans hold for our brothers and sisters from 'Missourah.' (Although I now live in Seattle, certain sectional, uhm, 'feelings' remain.)
Like Ohio vis-a-vis Michigan, we too fought something like a war with Missourah. (They burned my hometown of Lawrence to the ground and massacred 162 men and boys, but let's let bygones be bygones.) However, eventually we too realized that college football was a far less bloody way of settling our disputes than internecine warfare. ;-)
Robert
September 19, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, you beat me to it.
(You know I'm only joking, right?)
September 19, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You joke, but look what happened to Carson Palmer after he bagged OSU.
We're done fer!!
September 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure the Fightin Blue Hens alumni in Ohio will help carry the day.
September 19, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go Blue!
September 19, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Screw the Blue.
we know we can beat them (6 out of the last 7).
September 19, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's it! Game Over Man! Game Over!
September 19, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile, not to seem like I am trying to outdo you, dear CT Voter, but the story you tell is not the most inane Biden-related news out there. That distinction goes to this:
On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to occur after the VP debate on 10/2.
September 19, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, that story is a total smackdown of the frothy CNN story. I salute you, sir!
September 19, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
In other news, McCain praised Ohio State, saying, "I think this Ohio Territory team is just super, and I hope they knock the stuffing out of the Yankees! Go Saints!"
September 19, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for acknowledging our doom, CT Voter. :) It was no doubt impolitic of Biden. I do think that if we are up 5% in polling on election eve in Ohio, we'll still lose it with all those Talibangelicals balloting in the light of the Lord. Need to assume we lose it and have a way to win without Ohio's Holy Rollers.
September 19, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Biden is not stupid, and neither are you, CT. Neither are the bulk of the residents of Ohio. But the swing voters in any and all states are effectively (or, rather, self-decidedly) stupid. They decide elections. No this won't determine the election. Yet we live in a day and age where a (DEMOCRATIC) candidate best not blink out of sync, lest Drudge start the rumor that he is secretly flashing Morse code to his Al Quaeda pals, which will then bounce around the right-wing echo chamber for roughly 48 hours, which the MSM will then feel compelled to pick up... Well, I exaggerate, but you get the idea. Is this (what you write of) an absurd triviality? In absolute terms, obviously f*ck yes, but effectively f*ck no. I think you've caught on by now that running on such asinine, trivial 'issues' is how Republicans have been winning elections for the last 20-odd years.
Cheers,
Robert
September 19, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Imagine how bad Palin's numbers would be if the McCain were to actually let her out of her cage!
You just can't hide crazy forever!
I predict McCain will lose pretty badly, and most pundits will agree that a lot of it had to do with his pick of Palin.
And let's be honest. Tina Fey completely destroyed her credibility with the "I can see Russia from my house!" line. Devastating.
September 19, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Obama should run with Fey instead of Biden then, would liven things up . . .
:-P
September 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
What was weird was that she watched the skit with the sound OFF. She said she thought it was pretty good. But if someone was doing an impression of me, and I was watching I'd have to know what was being said, what others were hearing.
I'm wondering if they have her in a cone of silence, so she doesn't even know how much of this country is mocking her, and is downright scared shitless of the idea that she might be president.
September 19, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe she watched it with the sound off. No way. Another Palin campaign lie. And kind of a weird one. I agree with Sully. I think they did it to pre-empt what would have been the inevitable next question --- what do you think of how she imitated your accent??
They didn't want to acknowledge/bless the mockery too much, but still didn't want to appear 'out of touch' with pop culture....
Just a theory of mine.
And I hope ya know that Fey didn't invent that line aboot seeing Russia from her hoase... (yes, misspellings are intentional)... that was Palin herself who said that! As an actual defense of her foreign-relations readiness. Campaign flacks also said it, and even Cindy McCain said it, at one point.
I hope voters realize, when they hear that line, that it was really said by Palin, not just by Tina Fey in a skit!!
September 19, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure everybody on TPM is aware. The country as a whole? not so sure.
September 19, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought it was a really brilliant line on SNL.
I had no idea she actually said it. As I think about it, though, it does sound like her. Delivered as though it were a logical argument, and with a sense of, Don't-you-get-it,-stupid?! "I can see Russia from my house!"
This is the kind of thing that apparently passes for reason in Alaska. She says she has "that readiness," but the rest of us need to say no to abject ignorance.
September 20, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus says we mustn't let the Devil box talk.
September 19, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
September 19, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know with the sound off what you see is posing, i.e. cavorting behind Hillary while she is being serious (my favorite the cocking of the shotgun/rifle). So even without the dialogue you have the essence of Palin, a poser.
September 19, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. She said that Fey had the mannerisms down good. So I guess she is saying that she is a poser.
September 19, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
They can't let Palin out of her cage, can they?
The more she talks the less folks like her.
Anyway, you know they are still in the process of prepping her. And, now, for the debates. The McCain team is working on her spontaneous reply to Joe Biden:
"You know, Senator Biden, I'm sure that's how the old guard in Washington likes to do things, but let me tell you something, John McCain and I are going to change things, so if you like change, you're going to love us."
or
"You know, in Alaska, we don't blink when confronted with.."
Something like that. I'm sure they're testing here spontaneous remarks for the debate as we speak.
September 19, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
From what I saw of her freewheeling at that Partisan "townhall" meeting, their tutoring isn't going so hot. Her style can come across okay in a fiery convention speech, but in the quiet of a debate with Gwen Ifill asking the question, I think it'll just come across as abrasive and immature.
September 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what I've been thinking. Gwen is not Shawn Hannity or Campbell Brown. The VP debate will most likely be policy wonkinsh to the bone. She's toast, I mean Palin.
September 19, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait! Maybe the race isn't over. Maybe....just maybe....Michigan football fans are saluting Joe Biden all across Michigan right now!
Maybe I should be a "political strategist" for CNN.
September 19, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
UM fans are more dispirited than Buckeye fans...they just lost to Notre Dame.
September 19, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had a feeling once people heard the facts about her and saw that she wasn't as good as it appeared on the face of things that Voters would wise up.
By seeing that McCain messed up choosing her - he also hurt himself.
http://coonsey.wordpress.com/
September 19, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin Approval Plunges? Thats a shocker!
September 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin Approval Plunges? Thats a shocker!
September 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Indiana polling data is consistent with two recent polls earlier this week that showed Obama three points ahead and 2 pts behind. It appears there's 50/50 or 60/40 chance Indiana could turn blue in November.
September 19, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a Hoosier Dem, I'm stoked. Now it's a matter of GOTV.
September 19, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd rather have McCain's poll numbers sinking with Palin's numbers still high. Because I think the bar is being lowered so much for her that she'll spike up after the debate.
Palin has also requesting a meeting with Karzai next week. Let's see if he's willing to be part of the political theatre. Do world leaders meet with Vp candidates? Biden is meeting the new Pakistani President, however that is due to his role in the Senate.
September 19, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
My first TPM post evah, although I've been a fully addicted site lurker for years. Funny thing - when I heard about McDrooler's Palin pick I thought "OMG - we just won this thing...". The only thing that's surprised me since then is the pants-wetting level of excitement Palin has generated within the right-wing base. I knew they were gullible but, I really didn't think they were that stupid. I feel like the guy whose quietly getting drunk in the corner at a blowout celebration bash thrown by some poor schnook who honestly believes he's got a $10M check on its way from Nigeria.
September 19, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait wait - I thought Cindy was going to Georgia - what happened to that?
September 19, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I for one am glad you quit lurking and started posting.
Do you have any real idea just how small that "base" she's got wetting their pants is?
When he announced her, I thought the same thing: we just won. And I still think that.
;)
September 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
; ) Thank you, Tena, for the warm welcome. Yes, it has become clear to me that red is just not the new black this year. Interesting quick story - I was standing in line at a local convenience store the other day when some guy behind me started talking to someone on his phone about GOTV for McWeenie. Someone blurted out (ok, it was me), "hey this guy thinks McCain is going to win". By the time he got done talking, everyone in the store - and I mean everyone - was openly laughing their asses off at him. He said, "...whats so funny...", and everyone started laughing again. I actually felt embarrassed for the guy, ya know? But I still couldn't stop laughing....
September 19, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, I love those stories.
That's a really good one.
September 19, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome. But don't worry. There are others who will join you for a drink in a corner.
September 19, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, yeah I'm sure its true... ; )
September 19, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
And if they steal the election by hook or by crook, we can all work together to figure how to get out this country to someplace sane.
September 19, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
God that thought makes me sick. I keep trying not to think it, but you know how that goes. That O's legal team is up in MI fighting GOP voter suppression efforts right now, gives one heart though.
September 19, 2008 6:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. If there is a legal path to shut the suppression down I'm sure they'll find it. Right now I'm feeling pretty good about the ultimate outcome on Nov, with wins in place like MI that can withstand a little GOP shenanigans.
September 19, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome to the TPM gang.
September 19, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, friend. Nice to be here.
September 19, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Reply of the Month, for shore.
Nice one....zing!
LOL
September 19, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The initial lovefest has plateaued. No surprise there.
Palin's approval rating will jump when she embarrasses Biden in the debate. At that point it will be too late for the Dark Knight and his ward to recover.
September 19, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plateaued? That's a weird way to spell "plummeted."
September 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You beat me to it. Plateaued? My Aunt Fanny! Crashed and burned.
September 19, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pretty steep downward slanting plateau you got there.
September 19, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
And just how do you think she is going to embarrass Biden? With her wealth of knowledge about foreign affairs, or about how the banking system works in this country?
September 19, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll bet Biden can't see Russia from Delaware. No Siree!
So there! You sexist!
September 19, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
But he can New Jersey. Kind of like Russia.
September 19, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reputedly heavily populated with Russian Mafia.
LOL
September 19, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I would rather deal with Putin than those guys.
September 19, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus you can see Wall Street from New Jersey, if you live on the Hudson. Whole LOTTA expertise to draw on there in the current financial crisis. Course some of the people living there probably, y'know, work on Wall Street as well. I call no fair!
September 19, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah I don't see her embarrassing him. BUT I could see him embarrassing himself with some interesting wordspeak. The guy's a natural for occasionally saying the wrong thing.
But her embarrassing him? We'll see.
September 19, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You got that right, hyperRevue! Another way to spelled plateaued is plungingdownthetoilet.
September 19, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with polls--they are always yesterday's news. intrade and hubdub have obama's numbers going down and mccain's going up, just in the last day. (presumably this is in response to teh market improving but it could be because of mccain's new spate of lie-filled ads.)
I think my any stretch, the elections is too close to call and obama still needs lots of our support.
September 19, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Intrade has had Obama going up all week. It fluctuates throughout the day, but his closing price has been higher each day. And currently it has Obama +.1 and McCain +.2
September 19, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. She can see Russia from across her 'CEEMENT Pond'. Predict downward Palin spiral evident soon.
September 19, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jill Zuckerman, Chris Cillizza with Barnacle hosting. Absolutely awful. Nothing but pure horserace nonsense. It's a shame too, because Tweety has been awesome the past few days. He's barely been able to contain his new found contempt for Republicans.
September 19, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Another day would've been nice. And David Gregory is just awful. Plastic. Made-up. Unspontaneously spontaneous.
Luckily there's Keith & Rachel.
September 19, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Via Sullivan
Another valley activist, Philip Munger, says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. "She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board," said Munger, a music composer and teacher. "I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, 'Sarah, how can you believe in creationism -- your father's a science teacher.' And she said, 'We don't have to agree on everything.'
"I pushed her on the earth's creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she'd seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them."
September 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even Bush isn't this whacked (most likely).
September 19, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exceedingly dangerous, this entitling one's self to Magic Facts and using some really sick interpretation of "christianity" to arm one's self against criticism.
It's not a "disagreement." It's a fucking whackjob.
September 19, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for posting this. Dinosaur tracks with human footprints in 'em, huh? This is fucking Presidential material?
Unpatriotic to have chosen her. And to have the hubris to put up those signs, "Country First". Defies comment.
September 20, 2008 1:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. McSenile is a traitor. I don't EVER again want to hear a democratic denunciation of him preceded by some crap like, "John McCain has done service for his country" or whatever. Anyone who would put that delusional vindictive borderline within striking distance of the presidency - out of spitefulness, political opportunism - is a fucking traitor. He has demonstrated hatred of his country. He is un-American. HE IS A FUCKING TRAITOR.
September 21, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I want to see what Palin's numbers look like after she is struggling to guess what continent Spain is on during her debate. Oh wait. That's the guy at the top of her ticket.
September 19, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd keep an eye out for a little square bulge in the back of her jacket.
September 19, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-announces-palinmccain-ticket.html
Thursday, September 18, 2008
Palin Announces Palin/McCain Ticket: Ambition, Inexperience First
From ABC News:
Hilarious if it wasn't so frightening. The kind of slip made by a very young person whose ambitious fantasies all-too-easily break through her manifest inability to think before talking.
Incidentally, this has been her MO all along. From the New Yorker:
Impulsivity, an utter lack of reflectiveness and lack of basic knowledge combines with driving and unconsidered ambition to create a youthful, thoughtless grandiosity in reaction to the overwhelming whirl.A dangerous combination at a time when wisdom, knowledge and reflectiveness are truly a necessity for our nation and our future.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-announces-palinmccain-ticket.html
September 19, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
She wants to be on top? Ride, Sarah, Ride!(apologies to the Wicked Pickett).
September 19, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Move over Mustang Sally, Barracuda Sarah is here to "ruffle some feathers."
September 19, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might enjoy clicking on the link in my comment above.
September 19, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
The media are so hilarious:
After telling us why Obama is no further ahead or why is not winning the elections, now they are saying that the polls are wrong because Obama is ahead by 9 in Michigan...
Go figure!!!
September 19, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah. a guest was saying the same thing on msnbc. she couldnt believe obama was so far ahead in michigan. it could be an outliner, but he could very well be up by that much.
i'm suspecting more and more each day that the MSM desperately wants to play up a close election for ratings.
it is still a close race, but i think obama is a bit more ahead than the polls say.
September 19, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It may be that there were a number of people who were a little wary of his lack of experience, but have been impressed over the last few months that they have come over to his side (not want four more of the same).
A lot of the polls I've seen seem to indicate that Obama is pulling in Dem at the same percentage as McCain is Repubs, which would account for his increase in places like MI.
September 19, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
and the latest from Obama on equal pay is a winner, one of his best ad to date...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/19/obama-ad-mccain-needs-edu_n_127835.html
September 19, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice. Simple and to the point, with a good tag line "with the economy, it's John McCain that needs an education."
September 19, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a great ad. They should be running this and tons of similar ads with other "real people" everywhere.
September 19, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is on fire, he is kicking ass and he is acting like a president, while McWar is ready to push the nuclear button...
The ads are getting better, simpler, and it seems that its punch lines are working....
September 19, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who's M.I.A???
That Ass-clown Dr. Zaius, who was always around with his Axis Sally predictions of doom whenever a poll favorable to McSame came out.
Where is that ugly ape?
On second thought, good riddance!
September 19, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Troll traffic way down overall. Although DemBillC really blew a gasket earlier, dropping the Oilbama rant and went right to the Obama is a Muslim and most likely the antichrist.
September 19, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I think we actually drove SFC to trolldom. So, there's that.
September 19, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for being positive.
September 19, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Although DemBillC really blew a gasket earlier, dropping the Oilbama rant and went right to the Obama is a Muslim and most likely the antichrist."
Well, pity I missed that, but thanks for the recap, acamus!
September 19, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dame mcShame! What a liar! What an anti-feminist! What anti-Christian! The more I learn about this dame, the more she grates on me. She is the antithesis of ethics and morality. A paragon of lies and smears, a vicdictive control freak, against free speech. Give me liberty! But spare me Dame SP!!!
September 19, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
FuckYou2 further above does point out the possibility that Klondike Barbie could do well in the debate. (I just saw Ed Rollins on CNN make the same point in a balanced appraisal.) She's a telecaster and beauty queen as I keep saying so she knows know how to deal with questions she doesn't even understand and not lose her poise. Her debating technique in Alaska was to say less than others, lay back, and then drop a killer line in the room. (This is the meaning of the word "claptrap" BTW; claptrap is a planted line you are forced to applaud for.)
As with Bush's voters, her fans will think she did great no matter what she says. I don't believe she will be destroyed in the debate and she may well get an insufficient uptick. Overall, though, she is sinking, and their campaign sags, with respectful apologies to Langston Hughes, "like a heavy load."
September 19, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
got to say I am liking this more and more just look here
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
September 19, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You cheered me up, Katep!
September 20, 2008 1:44 AM | Reply | Permalink