Poll: Obama Grabs The Lead In Florida
This could be big news. A new survey of Florida from Public Policy Polling (D) is giving Barack Obama the lead in Florida, where John McCain has led in virtually all the polls up to now.
The numbers: Obama 49%, McCain 46%, with a ±3.2% margin of error. Three weeks ago, PPP gave McCain a lead of 50%-45%, which was about in line with other polls from the time.
The economy seems to really be the source of Obama's surge here. An overwhelming 64% of voters rank the economy as the single biggest issue, and Obama has a 55%-40% lead among this group. Obama is also ahead 54%-43% among the 15% who say the Iraq War is the biggest issue, while McCain makes it close thanks to overwhelming leads among the smaller groups who list the traditional conservative issues of taxes, moral values and immigration.















This is great news for McCain!
September 30, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
One might even say "EXCELLENT" . . . but that would just be idiotic . . .
:-P
September 30, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh?
Oh, right: McSame doesn't actually want to win, as it would interfere with his continuing retirement from reality.
September 30, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think rayzilla is mocking Mark Halperin. (And I thoroughly enjoyed it.)
September 30, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would like to see this confirmed by a few other polls but things are looking good and if it is confirmed I might have to start talking the big L (landslide)
September 30, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about the Big LL: Liberal Landslide.
September 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things look good now but I imagine we'll have another Obama dip along the way for whatever reason. After all the weird stuff from this election year, I expect something else.
September 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Too early to count chickens. Definitely excited, but I suspect McCain has a few more tricks up his sleeve.
September 30, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I understand the lesson of don't get your hopes up. But McCain's tricks? Have we seen any successful tricks from him so far?
September 30, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nearly every trick McSame has tried during the last two weeks has been successful in helping Obama.
You got a problem with that?
September 30, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm now viewing mcShame as a kind of "suicide bomber" of the electoral process. He keeps destroying himself in the process of trying to destroy Obama. And as he destroys himself over and over, he's taking his party with him, the nation with him, and the world.
McSuicideBomber.
September 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure the McCainiacs are counting on a big smear/fear push in October. Chances are they will try to warm up leftovers -- Rev. Wright, Ayers, etc.
All old news. Besides, Barack can sink those efforts by pouring on the "Enough is Enough!" artillery fire, pounding on McCain as "Bush 44" and giving him so much to answer for that McCain can't keep up with his offense because he will be too busy playing defense.
No mercy.
September 30, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rumor has it Obama is up +12 in the new Gallup tracking poll.
September 30, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
New Gallup poll today: Obama 52% McCain 40%
September 30, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rally? Sure it's not 50-42 Obama?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/Gallup-Daily-Election-2008.aspx
September 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe they still have yesterday's numbers on their website.
September 30, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's actually 49-43 Obama in Gallup.
September 30, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup you're right. Darn. Only a +6 lead.
September 30, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are all wrong. It's 49-43. I wonder where the 52-40 number comes from. Maybe USA Today has a poll coming out.
September 30, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that's probably it; the USA Today/Gallup polls have a tendency to be loopier than the tracker. The +12 might be a recent single-day result, maybe?
September 30, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, could be last night's number?
September 30, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Today's numbers are up, and it's a six-point Obama lead (49-43) -- just like Rasmussen (51-45).
Holding steady for now.
But people get too excited about individual days' polling.
And posting rumored results is simply over the line.
September 30, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not an expert on how they calculate the three day average, but a 4 point bump! Obama dropped 3 points about this time last week then went back up, but it seems to me that this is the period on the "McCain screwed up his save D.C. and the bailout bill strategy."
September 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
And there's the Battleground Polls that have Obama up 10.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/09/30/diageohotline_obama_surges_in_battleground_states.html
Epic. Fail.
Pufferfish
September 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
First North Carolina now Florida. The domino effect has started.
September 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "Domino Effect" is nonsense. Meaningless outside the game of dominos.
September 30, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or the shuffleboard effect?
September 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet Florida is the Kock effect.
September 30, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOps, S/B Koch
and scuse the double post below.
September 30, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The trend nationally is strongly towards Obama. I just wish we were closer to Election Day. This race has been such a roller coaster ride I want it to stop before I throw up.
September 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like your McCain is about to URP! even after drinking a bottle of Pepto-Bismol.
September 30, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
September 30, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's all thanks to Sarah Silverman's Great Schlep, I'm sure of it.
http://www.thegreatschlep.com
September 30, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is the best, funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
September 30, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
A regular classic.
September 30, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This election looks good for Obama right now, but we've seen how quickly things can change. A good debate performance by Palin would reassure independents and could give McCain a 2-point boost. Plus other world events could work in McCain's favor.
Keep donating to Obama and keep doing your part. This thing isn't over by a long shot.
September 30, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this is true, what levels of desperation are we going to see from McCain? I feel he is going to start lobbing more and more bombs, and truly, Obama shields those bombs amazingly well and will hurt McCain bringing forth an historic landslide victory to Dems. The Republicans are splitting at the seams.
September 30, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's going to suspend his campaign, then suspend the suspension of his campaign, then suspend the suspension of the suspension of his campaign, etc.
September 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Enough of your impudence, Mr. Inchpractice! You're suspended!
September 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Somewhere in there he will take a breather to suspend Palin.
September 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is very similar to the Soup Nazi. Instead of "no soup for you," McCain just suspends things and people under the guise of Country First and the People of America.
September 30, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm now viewing mcShame as a kind of "suicide bomber" of the electoral process. He keeps destroying himself in the process of trying to destroy Obama. And as he destroys himself over and over, he's taking his party with him, the nation with him, and the world.
McSuicideBomber.
September 30, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the actual source of all the suspense.
September 30, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
How dare you insult McCain like that. He was a POW, after all. ;-)
September 30, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes -- I want to confirm that McCain was a POW, because so few know it they'll likely be skeptical.
So:
McCain was a POW.
September 30, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Suspension Bridge to Nowhere
September 30, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The implosion of the housing market in Florida has got to make the state more populist than in 2004. All those people that thought they were going to be rich and so voted as if they were already rich are reevaluating their position.
September 30, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. But if they are now homeless, they can't register to vote to register their anger.
September 30, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Retired people don't like seeing their savings vanish in market meltdowns.
The Republican "Ownership Society" has created a lot more people who perceive themselves to have a stake in financial markets than there used to be. It's sweet irony to see this coming back to bite the Repugs.
September 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am cautiously optimistic about Florida. PPP, being a Dem outfit with a Dem "house effect", makes me lean toward a conservative (small c) take on this poll. Still, it appears that Florida is clearly in the "toss-up" category.
September 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am, of course, delighted to think that Obama would win Florida. That said, I am a little bit hard pressed to understand why one particular PPP result showing Obama ahead is trumpeted as big news. Mason-Dixon and ARG both showed him ahead in FL last week, so it is not as if this is the first poll to show him ahead. Meanwhile, SurveyUSA showed McCain ahead just yesterday, so it is not as if this PPP poll becomes the confirmation of a trend which began earlier. Needless to say, I hope that PPP is right, but I am a bit confused as to why we are supposed to receive this result as "big news."
September 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because ARG is poop, Mason-Dixon is not much better, and Eric got a little somethin-somethin last night, so he's in a good mood.
September 30, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just hope these numbers don't make folks complacent and they decide not to vote because Obama has this. Of course these numbers could also discourage Republicans from voting - so it could go both ways. I have faith in the Obama ground campaign to get folks motivated and to the polls.
34 days to go, McCain has to be getting desperate. I figure a bill will pass by the end of the week, though Newt Gingrich seems to be running interference and has designs on running himself in 2012 - so you never know what he has up his sleeve. President Obama with House and Senate majorities will be the much better boogieman for the Republicans to rebuild against. McCain/Palin in the White House would be a disaster for the Gingrich Republicans.
September 30, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonze jonze jonze - good fucking god - do you really think that will happen?
dude you are hallucinating. That is so not going to happen.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit!
September 30, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, there are a lot of people who WANT this, who WANT to vote.
September 30, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know but I don't trust the youth vote to get motivated if a landslide looking likely.
Obviously Obama is in a much better position and I wouldn't want to be in McCain's shoes a mere 34 days out.
Murphy's Law won't allow me to relax until Nov 5th.
September 30, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reminds of those college kids I think it was Texas Tech that marched into town down the highway because the jerks wouldn't put a polling booth out at the campus for this last primary.
September 30, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't help feeling many Democrats voted against the bailout knowing it would help Oilbama, who voted FOR the Bush Cheney Energy Bill, win the Election. It is more and more apparent everyday that Hillary needed to be the President. Oilbama has Shown ZERO leadership and basically sticks his finger in the air to see which way the political wind is blowing before giving an opinion on anything. Oilbama is all about Oilbama.
September 30, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who are you talking to?
September 30, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
You left out some needed qualifications to your earlier remark. I have attempted to supply the missing part. Meanwhile, to the rest of us not afflicted by your own particular brain fever, what is increasingly apparent is how much more stable and level-headed Obama and the Democrats are in comparison to McCain and his Republican colleagues.
September 30, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dumb Bill shows up, which is better confirmation of the poll than any other set of polls.
if(DumbBill==talking){
McCain.inTrouble=true;
commenceFreakout();
}
September 30, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Can't help feeling many Democrats voted against the bailout knowing it would help Oilbama, who voted FOR the Bush Cheney Energy Bill, win the Election."
..he uttered after he took Larry Johnson's man-business out of his pie-hole.
September 30, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bienvenidos DemBillC!
Just because Obama doesn't pull stunts like McCain does, or campaign like Bush, doesn't make him not a leader. Obama has much more leadership than anyone in power right now. How much does your boy Bush have right now? Have you forgotten who is the current president who should be leading?
September 30, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
Na na na na na na na na hey hey hey goodbye.
September 30, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, I'll be the first guy to hop on a plane and come dance the boogie-boogie with you if Obama wins this thing, but until then, it ain't over.
Patience, young Jedi.
September 30, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, maybe we can thank Sarah Silverman for this.
thegreatschlep.com
shana tova!
September 30, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
From now on to election day, is clear from leasining to Mr. Rove on FoxNews that Mac is going with three arguments:
1. Things are bad now, but Obama will make them worse;
2. Obama will raise taxes, taxes, taxes, liberal, liberal.....
3. Democrats are to blame for this Wall Street Crisis (scapegoting poor and minority people)
That is all his campaign has been reduced to. really sad.
Obama needs to run like he is behind.
September 30, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he needs to run the way he's been running: calm, smart, competent and with great leadership qualities. In short, presidential.
September 30, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, after this last week, it seems downright silly to be presuming to offer Obama campaign advice. Clearly the man knows what he is doing.
September 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's so credible now! He's only able to drive a futures market for "shorting mcSham."
September 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is EXCELLENT news for Sara Silverman!
http://thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html
September 30, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah much respect to sara silverman but lets not forget about former mayor of new york GOP Ed kochs who is also jewish,he being out there in florida stumpin for barack and campaignin as well for him!!!
September 30, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, true...lol. You're right!
September 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
i hope bill clinton will seal the deal when he goes there in the next few days.
September 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Florida is the state where Obama has a much better chance of turning blue than Ohio.
September 30, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to win all the Kerry-won states from '04 and one of three to win:
FL
or
OH
or
CO + NH
Up until the last week or so, I thought option 3 was the most likely. We'll see.
September 30, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
oops, Kerry won NH in '04... mistake by me.
September 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget NM & VA as good prospects, and IN, NC & NV as possibilities, too.
September 30, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to be counting those unhatched chickies, or anything, but Iowa and New Mexico, red last time, are deeper into the Obama bag than some of Kerry's states.
Assuming he holds those two and all the Kerry states, all he has to do is flip six more electoral votes from 2004. One state flips that do it include Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, and, theoretically Missouri (though, with respect to A Mo.Vo., Missouri looks to be the hardest of the battleground states for us to win.)
If he doesn't flip any of those but does flip Nevada, we've got 269-269, which sends it to the House of Representatives where Obama probably win.
If we lose New Hampshire (what is it with those people and their unshakable crush on McCain?) things get more complicated. If we lose Minnesota or Pennsylvania, things get really complicated.
September 30, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's more probable that Obama wins FL and loses WI. Chuck Todd has made some good points that the white voters there are not coming around to Obama. He won there in the primary because democrats could easily vote for a black man. But rural independents didn't have a say in the primary...
McCain makes me miss Ron Paul: http://tinyurl.com/66o79q
September 30, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama doesn't win Wisconsin, I'll eat my shoe
September 30, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Sarah Silverman and Ed Koch:
I think people always overestimate the electoral importance of the Jewish vote in Florida. Of course, we can take no demographic for granted, but Florida is only 3% Jewish, and most of those will have voted Democratic regardless of any campaigning. At most, anything the O campaign or its helpers could do is shift 1%. By contrast, Florida is about 15% Hispanic and 15% African-American -- moving the Hispanic vote by 5% would affect the total Florida vote by more than moving the Jewish vote by 25%.
September 30, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama can pick FL up, it's a landslide. McCain will go down as the worst candidate since Dole. Or some other really old guy.
September 30, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
The FL SurveyUSA Poll from today (#14474) shows McCain ahead by one point BUT INDICATES THAT 21% OF AF AM POLLED SUPPORT MCCAIN. Does this sound a little fishy to anyone?
September 30, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
To acamus:
That was Prairie View A&M.
An hbcu...
I was very proud of them. The students had been fighting that voting battle for a couple of years - since the midterms!
I'm excited by PPP's numbers because: (1) They indicate a trend (Obama's numbers getting better; (2)at least 3 polls over the last week indicate a tie (anything w/in 3 points for me is a dead heat)in Fla, a difficult place for Obama; and (3) "Ties" feel good to me because since Obama has actual state orgs he stands a good chance of winning the state.
Let me qualify #3: I do know that McCain/Palin don't actually need an organization in quite the same way that Obama does (racial stuff does some of the "organizing" for their ticket). AND I suspect (Palin got 60,000 in Fla, right?)that there is a ready made org for their ticket in the mega-church/Christian Right grassroots.
BUT...
I am still hopeful that Obama can carry the day in Fla.
Also: PPP and Quinnipiac (sp) tend to have larger samples, and that means something.
Also: ARG is...ARGGGGGG!!! non-existent parsing of their own data/don't know of a sample over 600 - just...
ARGGGGG!!
I'm here in GA - and even though the nat'l press (including this site) made a big deal about Obama's campaign "leaving" the state, I was clear that nothing actually stopped here. We have been registering voters like crazy (in small, clearly-defined, well-organized groups targeting small, clearly-defined areas. I didn't know my little city on the outskirts of Atlanta could be subdivided into so many voter reg sections). And since Martin's campaigning on my side of town has been...lackluster, I am REALLY happy about Georgia's numbers.
September 30, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
Here an article with video of them marching.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/23/prairie-view-am-students_n_88091.html
September 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Echo Jonze and others --- no relaxing until Nov. 5th (I'm having to remind myself to breathe, in fact).
After 2004 I don't think I can ever trust the American voters (or Republican-controlled voting machines) again. The reason things are looking so positive right now is that Obama and his well-run campaign haven't slacked off AT ALL or stumbled badly in 20 straight months. We supporters, who've had it comparatively easy during that time, can't be the ones to let it slip now as a result of our inaction. It's **our** turn up at the plate now.
I, also, fear that there will be at least one more awful cycle of disbelieving, stomach-turning certainty that he's going to lose. At least we've learned to ride them out a bit more calmly. (HAH! Who am I kidding? This close to the election it will be a whole new ball game.)
September 30, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know, I have a hard time imagining what kind of stunt McCain could pull now that won't be seen as a panic-move -- and what else could possibly shift the electorate against Obama at the moment? We may find ourselves victims of cyclical poll movement in response to nothing in particular (as in mid-summer), but I am pretty confident that Obama will take the bull by the horns if that happens too close to election day.
September 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
diebold, the republican party is counting on you.
September 30, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't trust either of them relating to illegal immigration. We know Obama is a straight talker and he has already stated, he will enact another AMNESTY. Simply reduce illegal immigration that is feeding like a leech of the US taxpayer. You just have to look at the draining financial coffers of every state. California is one hell of an example, where their crippled budget was a meltdown of $11 billion dollars in welfare payments. The Democratic-Socialist-Reconquista assembly has generously allowed the millions of illegal aliens squatting in this state, to extract dollars meant for taxpayers.
With the bailout of mega investment business and banks on the front burner. Nobody dare mention, that illegal immigration is implicated in this financial catastrophe?
www.michellemalkin.com/2008/09/24/illegal-immigration-and-the-mortgage-mess/ /
www.vdare.com/sailer/080928_rove.htm
HELP YOUR POLICE!
Illegal Immigration is rapidly becoming a urgent flash-point issue, because the this lawbreaking population is out of control. Cities and communities have become violators of immigration law, getting duly labeled as 'Sanctuary cities or even states'? This is no longer isolated communities whose Governors, Mayors and elected officials, who have sold America to the Special interest lobby.
The majority of Politicians have refused to approach this issues, because it has become a grave concern to hard-hit taxpayers. When uncensored it shows the spread of illegal immigrant crime, devastating economic damage to our welfare programs. Tom Fitton, President of the Watchdog legal group www.judicialwatch.org has adopted a PETITION to stop propagation of 'Sanctuary cities' where death has become an everyday day occurence at the hands of criminal foreign nationals.
So please sign this petition. www.sanctuarybusters.org/Index.asp?source.
www.numbersusa.com for more true facts.
September 30, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey People its way to early. You know The Republicans will attack Russia orsomething here pretty soon I'd give it a week - something big will happen - watch be prepared to crap on the media uz they will surely be trying to build up McCain.
In fact the memo's are probably going right now as we speak to all the networks -- We must build up and kiss MCain's ass" Immediately starting with NBC's Republican shill Tom Brokaw just watch!
Or amybe they'll dump on Biden but I do prdict this will happen cuz they can't have the polls get too out of line
September 30, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah theose polls --- makes it REAL HARD TO STEAL THE ELECTION really screws up the works can't have that now can we?
If the election polls are to wide --- for McCain well geez they'll get caught. can't have that so memo to press build up McCain starting with David Gregory - I predict.
September 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone mentioned "first North Carolina now Florida" -- I'd expect to see Florida turn toward Obama before North Carolina. In fact, if he gets NC, a tsunami is going to sweep from the Atlantic across the Rocky Mountains before sweeping every Republican in sight into the Pacific.
But Florida? Well, a housing sinkhole has opened up in Florida. All those rednecks and snowbirds down there sitting on a housing disaster, probably multiplied by ARMs going up for subprime borrowers. Not good. And all those retirees watching as their 401(k)s melt away? You can only save so much on early bird specials before its time to put in an application at WalMart. They're going to vote for four more years of this? I don't think so.
So, I'm cautiously optimistic on Florida.
September 30, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's get ready for an "October Surprise."
Remember, we are fighting the last gasps of the neocons, and they are going to pull something. They are desperate to hang on to power. Moreover, there are any number of extremist groups around the world that would just love to see a McCain victory to keep Bush's idiotic foreign policy going awhile longer.
September 30, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re N.C.: for me, NC is more or less an indicator for VA. If NC is close/slight BO lead, then that will probably mean BO wins VA. And that's a pretty good indicator for the general as well.
September 30, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
The CQ battle ground summary about N.C. :
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2008/09/latest-statebystate-general-el-66.html#more
September 30, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is also this US Senate race which shows the tide is going out for the Republicans.
Hagan (D) 46%, Dole (R) 38% - Sep 29 PPP (D)
Hagan (D) 48%, Dole (R) 45% - Sep 25 Rasmussen
September 30, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is in Iowa .... He's wasting time and money there.
Iowa: Obama leads McCain 51 percent to 43 percent with 2 percent choosing "other" and 5 percent undecided in a Rasmussen Reports poll conducted Sept. 25.
September 30, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Intrade is still moving away from McCain over 5 points today
September 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOps, S/B Koch.
September 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink