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Palin Hits Obama's "Bitter" Remarks

As we noted earlier, Sarah Palin is pushing back on critics of her lack of experience by casting them as disdainful of her small-town experience, and predictably, she's using Obama's "bitter" remarks to press the case:

I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities. I might add that in small towns, we don't quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening.

We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco.

There's little doubt that Palin's speech, particularly her undeniably skill-full ability to play a tough, brash, ambitious executive and a small-town every-mom at the same time, will get very good press reviews.


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She sounds like she's giving a high school address -


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Exactly. She sounds like she's running for president of the local booster club, not vice president of the US. And she sounds like she should be starring in "Fargo."

She's Tracy Flick from the movie "Election".

Thank you, Keith!
I believe he said she was a Tracy Flick/Norma Rae combo.

New theme song for the McCain/Palin Ticket (dating myself a little bit?) The Day My Mama Socked It to The Harper Valley PTA?

Might be good for the "base" but I don't think the McCain Campaign is going to escape the reality that they are speaking to the nation from a Republican convention/party...

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Donate to Obama, folks. Again. Today. One of the things that continues to get play in this campaign is how much each campaign is raising. Let's up the total so high in September that when the numbers are released it'll be a massive salvo to the Repugs: enough!

I'll see your Sarah Palin and raise you $80 million. Thanks for continuing to solidify our efforts to toss your sorry asses to the curb and work with those on the right who ACTUALLY believe in bipartisanship.

A quote from JAWS comes to mind when I think of a huge donation taking place right now in response to Palin's garbage:

"[Money] man's gonna have a heart attack when he sees what I brung 'im!"

Can't believe she just said that she said no thanks to the Bridge to Nowhere. Argh.

It's a demonstrable lie. Plain and simple.

But in W's America, I guess it doesn't matter anymore. Jesus H! I hate Palin. I hope there's an 18-50 year old male backlash against her condescending, needling, and disgusting demeanor.

Really? Comparing Barack to Jesus parting the waters? Are you a vlogger Palin? You make me sick.

Reagan showed that deficits don't matter.

Bush showed that truth doesn't matter.

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Palin proves that experience doesn't matter

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Palin may prove that experience doesn't matter

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She's perky, feisty, cute and has a personal narrative that is irrelevant to the office she seeks, but may appeal to people who don't think too much, who go with their gut, who voted for Bush because they wanted to have a beer with him.

yup, a complete lie. Will the MSM call her on it? yeaaaah, right.

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Lying sack of shit.

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They've never met a misrepresentation they didn't like. I guess they never read 'What's the Matter With Kansas.' Oh--I forgot, most of them are illiterate.

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I don't belong to any organized political party.  I'm a Democrat!

she's an idiot. where is a hacker when you need one to fuck up her teleprompter

She looks absolutely amateurish.

She is talking to more people right now than live in her entire country.

She makes me sick. I hope there's something out there (besides the lies and scandals already unearthed) that can get her kicked from this friggin' ticket. Gahd she's gross.

Honestly, I expected better.

If they put "Go Screw Yourself, America" in the teleprompter, she would say it.

I hate her.

Agreed.

At the risk of being incredibly offensive and sexist, she looks like she's ready to walk on the set of a secretary porn shoot.

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She always looks like that - always.

That's one reason women don't trust her.

Sure. And the glasses...

Lady, it's called contact glasses. Use them.

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This is a fucking joke.

It really is - it's just stupid.

Completely agree. The shark jumping got out of control when she compared her work as mayor two years ago to Obama's work as a community organizer twenty years ago. The stupidity of that argument is incredible. And yet she charged ahead.

I actually expected more. More of a presence and polished delivery. This is amateur.

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What's amazing is that she has clearly greatly insulted community organizers, doing legitimate work, who are also REPUBLICANS. She is nothing. She is complete fair game to attack. If she wants to play in the big leagues then have at her Obama/Biden or whomever. She clearly has an ego, as demonstrated by her saying 'yes' to McCain, even as she knew her experience was underwhelming for the VP job. I always despised Harriet Miers for saying yes to Bush, but never got a comeuppance for her arrogance. Perhaps Ms Palin will get that instead. I want to see her completely slammed by the Press. I'm tired beyond reason with these Evangelicals and the sorrows they've wrought on this country. They shoved Bush on us, and his failings are their fault. They don't deserve to keep the WH. And if they have to go down in flames, with the Press' help, then God's will be done. I have no use for them.

Levi -- I need a drink.

Bristol -- Get me outta here.

Todd -- Piper, take the baby.

Piper -- Here, let me fix your hair, Trig.

Ha!

She sounds like she belongs on an informercial shilling a spot remover or something.

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That's it - thank you.

Then again, informercial hacks don't usually go negative. Her relentless snark shows less class than that.

I'm biased, of course, but I wasn't buying it. Her speech seemed kind of boring to me. Nothing fresh and rather long about her family. No substance to it, imho. But sadly, you're probably right. It'll get rave reviews because she managed to not throw up in the middle of it or something.

Was Olbermann kidding? Please tell me he was. Chris Matthews and David Gregory were drooling. UGH. Terrible speech, why are they praising her?

I agree. I thought (and worried) she would do better than that.

I agree. I thought (and worried) she would do better than that.

The media will hopefully push back on the lies.

She is also going negative, which takes away the likability. She even attacked the media for vetting her. I hope the media declares "game on".

And yes, she does seem like she is running for VP of the PTA, this doesn't sound like a speech for someone running for VP of the United States.

Running for the PTA or selling us a food dehydrator.

They won't call her on the lies. they'll say: "THE FIGHT IS ON!" The Witch vs. the Orator or some crap like that...

I think there might be a male oriented Sports Radio backlash. Might take a few days, but if we keep hearing that voice, it may happen.

True, the media is probably tired of doing its job, it was an exhausting few days, so yeah, they'll probably try to hype up some fight. You are absolutely right.

Victory in Iraq is on sight. Really.

This woman drank her own kool aid.

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Let's Get Real - does she look like someone who should be vice president? Does she?

She looks like she's the secretary in a porn flick or the secretary in the Strip-o-Grams.

Wow. There are so many things about Sarah Palin to attack that aren't simplistic and misogynistic comments about her style of dress.

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Yeah, but I like keeping it real.


Been saying it all day: the media coverage has been so awful for her since the veep announcement that she can't help but exceed expectations.

She is a fucking c**t. The Dems were SO respectful of McCain. All she can offer is silly mocking throw away lines.

And I'm getting REALLY pissed off at that Media Matters banner.

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See my comment about using flashblock.

I don't know how respectful they were...

Go back and watch the videos. They took down McCain on policies. They did NOT do this petty mocking shit.

My son just flicked her off to put on the Daily Show. Keep me posted.

So he turned on the real news? Thats what iam watching as well.

Don't be foolish, people. This gal is good. Do I agree with her? Heck, no. But she's good and that makes her dangerous--still beatable but certainly not to be underestimated at all.

Want Obama? Hit the phones and the streets.

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I know I am biased, but I really expected a lot more than this.

This is laughable.

There are folks who will LAP this up and she will be sent to those areas--rural and small town America where the GOP has been ruling for some time. You may laugh, but I suspect Obama supporters need to work to get folks registered and then out to the polls to make sure we win in November.

I have some really grave news for you. You may want to sit down and brace yourself. Ready? Here it is.

We're not going to get every single vote.

Shocking, I know. I just wanted you to be prepared.

I agree to a degree. She seems to have a nasty streak. But I'm not worried. She has so much fucking baggage already. Just wait until she's actually allowed to speak to reporters.

She may be the biggest smart-ass of the veep/prez candidates, and that's pretty impressive considering the other three.

Exactly. Very snarky. I don't know how it'll play.

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Other than Chris Wallace? Don't hold your breath.

She's articulate, but empty and scary, IMO.

She's all Republibot.

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Guiliani has the street cred to go negative but does she? If she dishes it out, she better be ready to take it.

My guess is that she will be able to take the punches and come back.

I watched half of it and then just started reading Sullivan's live blogging. Much more entertaining.

same ole tired lies...just more of the same..just substitute POW POW POW AND BOMB BOMB BOMB for DRILL DRILL DRILL and hockey Mom and you have Palin in a nutshell....match made in heaven indeed! she will be a hit with the talking heads and her base.....

i wonder how much this lady knows of the world--like the capital of venezuela for instance?

This convention represents what everyone hates about the Republicans.

This election is a WRAP!

But people like a fight. Now they have one. I hope there is footage of her accepting a bribe somewhere!

This is the first time I've heard her speak. God I cannot listen to this accent for several months.

Imagine 4 years

Now I know why her nickname is Sarah Barracuda

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No shit. She's just a rip artist -

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Yes. Another short description that came to mind: devilishly clever, smart as a whip. I will not be surprised if she turns out to better at the old redirect in debates than Ronald Reagan.

And I will be surprised if it comes out that that was verbatim from the prepared text. Either way, if it was verbatim, she is superb at making it look like she's ad libbing. She doesn't orate at an audience, she speaks to indvidual people on the other side of the TV screen. McCain gets that same effect by speaking softly in town hall settings. She does it while at the same time riling and riffing, which is quite a talent.

Who do you think wrote her speech? Obama writes a lot of his own speeches, right? This sounds soooo canned, so just written by the campaign. I can't wait to hear her in a debate without a teleprompter- but I hope it doesn't get that far.

Give the girl credit, she looks ready to take off her glasses, pull down her hair, and make you vote for her. She's so F'in incompetent and scary that BHO better be scared. Should have picked Hillary, she'd would slap Palin around.

But if Obama picked Hillary, then McCain wouldn't have picked Palin.

how long with obama campaign allow palin to walk all over the dem prez nominee? they better start calling her bluff on her lies or media will be so far up palin's tootie patootie, obama and company wont know what hit them.....breast and legs do make the world go 'round....and let's not forget a beehive and naughty secretarial appeal...

Agreed. And BO needs to get Hillary out on the stump, STAT.

The speech is getting tedious now. Very long.

The somewhat engaged voter has tuned out.

So much hate, so little time!

Give some actual changes, please, beyond "smaller government lower taxes"

lets not forget the bitter remarks by Obama was the bitter truth. The fact that Republicans use it show that they are in denial that they use middle America.

Palin proves that she's and JSM are liars.

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Can she be both the sainted mother and Ann Coulter?

From Romney to Huckabee to Giuliani to Palin, this has to be the meanest, nastiest, most sarcastic convention night I've ever witnessed. Well, that didn't involve Zell Miller.

It is the Zell Convention.

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I know -

It's the Anti-Hope Convention

It reminds me of 1992, when Pat Buchanan gave a horribly dark speech of what the US would look like if ruled by Democrats. Tonight was that many times over. It will probably turn more people off than get people excited for the GOP. As Peggy Noonan said this afternoon, just energizing the base won't cut it any more.

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I disagree. I think they have tried to be mean, etc. but they come off as feckless. They all sound lame and canned to me.

Sarah Palin doesn't know how to give a speech. Obama keeps talking during the applause and she stops and waits which is what makes the speech so long.

I frankly expected more. There's no emotion, no cadence, no spark. It sounds like recitation of poorly delivered insults. YAWN . . .

"There's little doubt that Palin's speech, particularly her undeniably skill-full ability to play a tough, brash, ambitious executive and a small-town every-mom at the same time, will get very good press reviews."

wtf?

Who said that shit?

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I co-sign that WTF?

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I think it's going to work, at least to a degree. She's good at bringing the evil, and now the Obama team is going to have to hit back. The only good thing that might come out of this is that she was full-on pit bull; the media might decide that if she's going to play hardball, they won't accept the McCain camp pretending she's off-limits. She also runs the risk of backlash: too harsh, too vicious, too much Ann Coulter and not enough Ann Landers.

But, truth to tell, I felt like I was watching the 2000 campaign again, with the terrible knowledge of what will actually happen if these people win. Putting Palin anywhere near the Executive Branch will make the Bush administration look like a People for the American Way convention. Anyone who thinks that the "moderate" McCain exists after tonight is deep in the Kool-Aid.

By selling his soul to the radical right, McCain may have won his prize -- he's certainly closer to the White House now than he was a week ago. But he's no longer a maverick: he's a servant. And, in Republican circles, servants know their place.

I agree. It has certainly put even more urgency into my volunteer work with the Obama campaign. We just cannot take anything for granted with this election.

Register to vote, folks. We will need you in November.

Seriously, have you looked at the crowd?
That's NOT America today. Walk along the street in any American city or town and I dare you to find something looking like this roomful of people. You can go to the smallest town in rural America and still find diversity. seesh!

GOP = Angry old white people party!

Oooo a POW reference!

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Dude! 19-15 y/o's wanna boff the babe! So she looks like mom! Boff'er!!

On the other hand, does she have jack s**t to SAY?
F**K NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

End of discussion.

Give me some good ol' elitist rhetoric anytime, my brain is numb!

Don't go to towards the light! Damn it! Don't go towards the light!

Blew the Hanio to WH line.

Palin = piñata.

In one speech she has successfully given permission for half the country and the majority of the world to hate her.

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uh -

yeah, a pinata.

When this crap is going to end?

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Code word: Evil - pause - [psssst he's the anti-Christ]

Where are they getting the "BO will raise your taxes" thing?

I think one could go point by point and tear her to shreds. This is more Bush/Rove say-anything sh%t.

I really expected her to be a lot more respectful of her opponent, but she didnt.

Tonight was trash BO night, and they succeed.

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I think it's going to work, at least to a degree. She's good at bringing the evil, and now the Obama team is going to have to hit back. The only good thing that might come out of this is that she was full-on pit bull; the media might decide that if she's going to play hardball, they won't accept the McCain camp pretending she's off-limits. She also runs the risk of backlash: too harsh, too vicious, too much Ann Coulter and not enough Ann Landers.

But, truth to tell, I felt like I was watching the 2000 campaign again, with the terrible knowledge of what will actually happen if these people win. Putting Palin anywhere near the Executive Branch will make the Bush administration look like a People for the American Way convention. Anyone who thinks that the "moderate" McCain exists after tonight is deep in the Kool-Aid.

By selling his soul to the radical right, McCain may have won his prize -- he's certainly closer to the White House now than he was a week ago. But he's no longer a maverick: he's a servant. And, in Republican circles, servants know their place.

Still can't believe that EVERY SPEAKER tonight has trashed community organizers. Who's the party of elitism?

In the VP debate, Biden may have a chance to ask what's so wrong with wanting to help people, wanting to do what you can despite not holding a position of power?

Community organizing sounds to me like a pretty darned American way to serve. Kinda like the PTA, right?

She really went way, way negative, and has opened up a line of attack that has nothing to do with her record (which also can be attacked), or her family (which rightly should not).

POW card
Bob Dole '96 speech.

Epic Failure, Mondale/Ferraro 2

You got it.

Ishtar epic.

Her snarky tone is appropriate for, I dunno, Bill Maher's show. Not for a VP acceptance speech. It's so over the top. She's like the villian out of a Legally Blonde sequel.

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IT's appropriate for something, but hell if I know what it is.

Horrible - just horrible. As much of a bad joke as she is - a bad joke.


IF this is something to worry about- I have made this threat in the past, but this time I know I mean it - if they pulled this off by some miracle, I am not staying in this country.

No fucking way.

I really mean that this time - she's just horrible!

And on and on and on she goes.

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Well, she'll make a fortune on Fox.

Oh God, you're right.

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that tickles my plausibility bone

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This is impossible to watch. I've been reduced to watching "Friends". I HATE friends. But this bullshit coming from Giuliani and Palin is just such a huge truckload of horse manure, it was starting to make me physically ill. I'll tune in when it's all over to hear if the pundits fawn or call their bluff. If these people were to somehow be elected, we'd be looking at four more years of the same division and hate we've seen for the past eight. And that--more than anything--is a kind of more of the same I'm not willing to deal with.

My wife has already said we're moving to France if these hillbillies of hate win the White House. They aren't going to win, but it's going to be completely sickening and depressing watching them try.

Re: "My wife has already said we're moving to France if these hillbillies of hate win the White House."

I may join you.

This how they'll torture prisoners in the future; a continuous loop of this speech.

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Who knew little girls could grow up to be Spiro Agnew?

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O - awesome comment - wish I'd said it.

Apropos of nothing, Spirow Agnew is an anagram for "Grow a Penis". Thank Dick Cavett for that one.

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Oh, you nattering nabobs of negativism!

she disgusts me!!! it was one lie after another...but keep in mind that this speech was written by someone else and she had to memorize it.

That sounds like an excuse for her--something I'm sure you didn't intend.

Memorize? She was reading a teleprompter with a fervent devotion that far outstripped her "religion."

she still had to know the majority of the speech....imagine not knowing and having to read the teleprompter...the speech would have been longer than it was.

and no I am not making excuses for her...hated everything she and Rudy had to say. I am volunteering again this weekend to register and call people in Nevada!!! There is no way in hell McCain/Palin should enter the WhiteHouse. It's our time

Obama and Biden had better come out with guns blazing tomorrow. They have to CRUSH this woman. She opened it up and they have to BRING IT!

It is astonishing -- and downright scary -- that she actually referred to her husband's ancestry as of "Eskimo" descent. This candidate is from Alaska, and she does not even know the correct terms for those indigenous to the region.

I dunno...kind of pathetic in a scary kind of way.

It is absolutely pathetic, and saddening. But she may also become President; that's where it becomes particularly frightening, and no longer simply indicative of ignorance.

Sullivan sums it up perfectly:

"It seems to me that Palin doesn't quite have the stature to be puttng down someone who has won millions of people's votes. "

The end of that speech fell like a ton of bricks. Flat and pointless. Wow that sucked. Get past her grating and disgusting personality, and she's nothing without the teleprompter. Gross. Vile that McCain would abuse the VP and Presidency this way. Twisted.

Yeah but hey there's Levi.

The POW is in the house.

Glad I'm not the only one....

Maybe a joke from Gramps?

The first republican woman to accept the nomination of her party, and her speech will be remembered not as a voice of hope or vision, but rather one of partisanship. How sad.

OMG, with McCain standing next to her, it accentuates his age. He really looks OLD.

Wow McCain is acting really weird on stage... and sounding weird too. What's going on with him?

He looks really uncomfortable.

My God - She looks just like Tina Fey!! It won't take much to do great SNL stuff!

That speech made Battlefield Earth look like a masterpiece.

Dear America,

Don't worry about if someone gives a shit about people going through hard times, they are poor for a reason...

Watching McCain and Palin together, I can definitely see the chemistry.

LOL

She is not fit TO EVEN READ THE LIES FROM THE TELEPROMPTER, SHE IS NO REFORMER SHE'S A TRANSFORMER, SHE CAN'T EVEN REFORMER MCCAINS LIES, SHE IS WHAT THEY ALL ARE LIERS...PERIOD AND IT SHAMEFUL!

They are letting her attack Obama because they want him to attack her back so the can say it sextist.

I am bitter that she might be my Commander in Chief, and she too does not no what victory is in the wrong darn war...

We just turned it on then turn it off and started praying since we will be returning to war soon.

Please pray for us and don't forget us.

I am 100% for Obama but I think she did a great job giving a speech while lying her ass off. She's charismatic and a real barracuda, very scary.

Charismatic? More like shrill and creepy.

I agree. But I'm the exact opposite of the audience they are trying to reach, so who knows.

What is scary is how she energizes the Right and apparently has no shame. She'll be a formidable opponent.

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Charismatic?

o fuck me -


I do not think that word means what you think it does.

"Charismatic? More like shrill and creepy."

A believe it was demonstrated that one can be both, by a Mr. Hitler.

Damn it, Levi didn't propose to Bristol on stage.
Apparently I owe someone 20 bucks. Thank god I don't have any money on my pocket now.

Her brother in law - he was at Hanio Hilton and that is all they need to know. And people want to know how Bush won twice?

O man The Daily Show is pretty badass today.

thank you for the reminder. the daily show is the reality check i need right now.

jon stewart lets me know im not alone in thinking

wtf is wrong with these people

well we now know she can read.

Well it was good. But it was no home run not even close. Frankly I am relieved it was not a speech that appealed to voters they are fighting for jsut dont see it.

Condescending. Amateurish. Nasally. Full of lies. I hope Keith Olbermann was joking when he called her "great." I thought she bombed. Big in the hall but it will fall flat with undecideds and independents.

culture, culture, culture, it all comes down to culture...we shall see

Anyone watching this rendition of the anthem?

This is Carl Lewis bad.

Someone needs to crack open her quotes from just a few weeks ago saying how she thought it was great that Obama was doing well in Alaska.

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Palin exceeded expectations tonight. That's all she had to do, and she did it. But this is only the beginning for her.

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You know what, I will charitably say she may have met expectations. Exceeded is way out of the question - that's not reality.

That's not.

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I will go as far as to say that she met expectations. Exceeded them is out of the question.


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I had low expectations. I think many of us did. I don't agree w her. I think that she would be an awful pres, but I think she came across as appealing and intelligent. The talking heads seem to be backing me up. I watched the speech w a room full of liberals. We didn't listen to Romney or huckabee or rudy, but we listened to palin.

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I had low expectations. I think many of us did. I don't agree w her. I think that she would be an awful pres, but I think she came across as appealing and intelligent. The talking heads seem to be backing me up. I watched the speech w a room full of liberals. We didn't listen to Romney or huckabee or rudy, but we listened to palin.

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I had low expectations. I think many of us did. I don't agree w her. I think that she would be an awful pres, but I think she came across as appealing and intelligent. The talking heads seem to be backing me up. I watched the speech w a room full of liberals. We didn't listen to Romney or huckabee or rudy, but we listened to palin.

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I had low expectations. I think many of us did. I don't agree w her. I think that she would be an awful pres, but I think she came across as appealing and intelligent. The talking heads seem to be backing me up. I watched the speech w a room full of liberals. We didn't listen to Romney or huckabee or rudy, but we listened to palin.

Well, Obama can forget about Kentucky and Oklahoma.

Get REAL! They were never gonna vote for a black man in the first place.

Sadly MSNBC has not changed their views, they are so infatuated with McPalin...
Chris Matthews should be ashame as how quickly he move from praising him by bashing now, and endorsing McPalin, the same goes with Gregory...

I think I am done with watching them.

I will watch KO because I think he is the only one decent...

That Country thing is the perfect end to the unbelievable shit that we saw tonight. Horrible.

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Palin exceeded expectations tonight. That's all she had to do, and she did it. But this is only the beginning for her.

How did she exceed expectations? She barely met expectaations.

I can see the donations POURING in for Obama tonight and tomorrow after that sickening display of mean-spiritness.

And now a band singing "We're all just raising McCain"!?!? :0

I don't see them crafting a good image out of this. She's a rightwing partisan. She's a rabid shrill a--hole. What's post-partisan or maverick about that???

Once again, the McCain camp can't help itself. It only has a hammer and sees every problem as a nail. They attack, attack, attack -- no thought, no strategy.

And the beat goes on.

Which is weird, because she's young enough to be his daughter/wife.

That Country thing is the perfect end to the unbelievable shit that we saw tonight. Horrible.

Tena, I know we disagreed earlier, but Palin is a douche. Can we not vote on this???

Lady just interviewed said the Star Spangled Banner song has convinced her that McCain and Sarah will keep America safe. What? lol

The raising mccain bit just reinforced every sterotype of the repub party.

Looks like those two days of foreign policy flash cards in a suite at the Minneapolis Hilton have really paid off.

Her speech, including delivery and the optics of the family (Willow smoothing baby Trig's hair), was a 10. Period.

Rudy was an 8 but too long.

The fall campaign will be an epic one.

I hope you guys are watching the Daily Show, John Stewart is once again proving to be the best journalist in America.
He just completely eviscerated Rove, O'Lielly, Dickhead Morris, whoever McCain's senior policy advisor is, and Palin--all with their own words, then and now.
Their attacks on Hillary supposedly whining about sexism vs. their own whining about sexism was particularly hilarious.

Now he's got Newt Gingrich on..

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It's the HEE HAW campaign, by way of Tonya Harding Land.

Her speech, including delivery and the optics of the family (Willow smoothing baby Trig's hair), was a 10. Period.

Rudy was an 8 but too long.

The fall campaign will be an epic one.

Bwahahahaha... you are silly and you make me smile. Good luck with your McCain.

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Maybe but I kept wondering where Willow's mother is going to be when Willow needs her hair combed. The little girl trying to take care of the baby has a down side too. It's not a job for a little girl.

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She'll appeal to the those who hate in the name of God but would you take your children to listen to that kind of an attack piece? It's jarring to me. She's not anyone I'd hire as a babysitter that's for sure!

I keep hearing "sarcastic" over and over.

Definitely pathetic, and saddening. But she may also be the president; that's where it becomes scary.

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Gee Sarah, why don't you crank up the catty just a teense more?

100% rhetoric
0% substance

I don't think that'll carry her too far in a debate. It's nice to know that nobody will be expected to treat her with kid gloves now. Let the ripping begin.

Just interviewed someone in the Alaska delegation who said that he's known her for a dozen years and this is the best speech he's ever heard her give. Oh, joy. ---- I know the official commentators can't say it but I was surprisingly UNDERwhelmed. Really surprised. But, then ... I guess neither McCain nor his search committee ever saw her give a speech......

And the lies - the flat lies. I just can't deal with them.

Anybody else catch the phonetic spelling of "nuclear" in the prepared remarks? I have to give her credit, at least she's trying to say it correctly, unlike our current President...

please stop it...it is all about winning an election with mccain...if obama chose hillary, he would been in a bigger fix...do you really think palin would have been on the ticket with mccain if obama had chosen hillary? heck no! we have to be fair here--foreign policy experience is a biggie this time around and obama and hillary on the same ticket is a disaster no matter how you look at it....biden was the right choice..now they need to cut biden loose to slap palin around...she just proved she can hang with the boys...take the gloves off and nail that sucker to hell or heaven in her Godly case...

NBC did right as her speech ended. Well, Brian Williams suggested what she did accurately portraying herself on this.

My previous post should say "didn't accurately portray herself." NBC did bring up Bridge to Nowhere, almost at the last breath of Palin's speech. Now the question is will anything come of that.

I'm sorry people. I gotta vent.

What RIGHT does the Governor of Alaska have to pile such vile contempt on our democratic candidate? I mean REALLY. When did "community organizer" become a byword for trailer trash?

I'm sooooo fucking pissed right now at Tracy Flick's speech for High School Class President.

She doesn't have the stature to assail a man who has won the votes of 18 million people!

God, I'm pissed!

She's an appointee.

But don't fret. The goal of politics is to win over voters, not insult your opponent's voters.

The McCain camp has only one tactic: attack. They've given us a gift by transforming into Bush-Cheney all over again.

Palin is certainly as mean and lip-curling as that Cheney. Cheney in a dress, if you will.

What's amazing is that she has clearly greatly insulted community organizers, doing legitimate work, who are also REPUBLICANS. She is nothing. She is complete fair game to attack. If she wants to play in the big leagues then have at her Obama/Biden or whomever. She clearly has an ego, as demonstrated by her saying 'yes' to McCain, even as she knew her experience was underwhelming for the VP job. I always despised Harriet Miers for saying yes to Bush, but never got a comeuppance for her arrogance. Perhaps Ms Palin will get that instead. I want to see her completely slammed by the Press. I'm tired beyond reason with these Evangelicals and the sorrows they've wrought on this country. They shoved Bush on us, and his failings are their fault. They don't deserve to keep the WH. And if they have to go down in flames, with the Press' help, then God's will be done. I have no use for them.

My sentiments exactly. If you don't strap on a gun you have never served. I try to avoid swere words, but...Fuck You!

Am i the only one, what i saw tonight was a slap on every Americans that volunteer that service to serve their community.

For the first time in my life, i witnessed GOP ridicule service to the less fortunate among us. Palin and Guliani thinks volunteering to serve people that are less fortunate is not service to our country.

This is an insult to every young Americans that volunteer for peace corp., Veteran's home, inner city and indian reservation. Well, the GOP should believe this people are not important.


No, you are not the only one.

Wonderfully said.

as a returned peace corps volunteer who SERVED this country, it was pathetic and hurtful. I'm sure she will cut peace corps

amen, brother or sister. i don't serve the community enough myself. but to see the delegates chanting "zero" to the honor of community service showed the true ugliness of this party. let's hope that leaders of faith based organizations of all religions noticed. perhaps this is a gift sure return for the election and motivating all to give back.

It highlights something I've noticed about the Right for a while now -- all that matters is power.
Community organizers, and civic minded citizens have no power beyond their ability to inform, listen, and persuade. These are things the right cannot do competently, so they poo-poo them.

The right prefers a strongman that will take care of them and protect them from bogeymen. They're cowards.

Just interviewed someone in the Alaska delegation who said that he's known her for a dozen years and this is the best speech he's ever heard her give. Oh, joy. ---- I know the official commentators can't say it but I was surprisingly UNDERwhelmed.

Really surprised. But, then ... I guess neither McCain nor his search committee ever saw her give a speech...... among other things they didn't find out. (Do you suppose McCain has found out yet that she DID support the Bridge to Nowhere? Does he care?)

It is absolutely pathetic, and saddening. But she may also become President; that's where it becomes particularly frightening, and no longer simply indicative of ignorance.

This freak show will soon be done.

I haven't read anything about Obama's O'Reilly appearance. How did it go?

It's tomorrow night.

D'oh! Thanks.

They just interviewed someone in the Alaska delegation who said that he's known her for a dozen years and this is the best speech he's ever heard her give. Oh, joy. ---- I know the official commentators can't say it but I was surprisingly UNDERwhelmed.

Really surprised. But, then ... I guess neither McCain nor his search committee ever saw her give a speech...... among other things they didn't find out. (Do you suppose McCain has found out yet that she DID support the Bridge to Nowhere? Does he care?)

This freak show will soon be done.

And to think that we could have been watching Hillary skewering Romney instead of Barracuda eating Biden alive in the VP debate.

McCain, Bush, Economy.

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You know we might all be partisan and biased against her, but I am not so sure we aren't right. This was a lousy way to introduce her to the nation. She should have given an uplifting speech to gain some credibility before going negative.

I know the campaign wrote her speech, but she should have said no and wrote her own. Sad really but Sarah Palin just encountered the high point of her life. Her future is that of a hatchet woman. Hatchet women don't have a future.

Oh, about Harry Truman, yes he was a farmer, a citizen soldier, and a failed haberdasher, but he took on the Klan, he was the administrator of a county that was larger than her entire state. He was elected senator. And yes he was part of a very corrupt political machine. Nobody ever implicated Harry in the bad stuff and judging from where he lived and having talked to a lot of his friends and family he didn't take bribes or use his power for personal vendettas. He earned fame for his efforts at ending corruption and increasing efficiency during WWII. Oh, Independence is now a town of 100,000 with a small town feel. Oh, Harry became president 89 days after he was sworn in as VP. Comparing herself to Harry Truman was stupid.

My thought exactly. I think it was a big mistake on their part to make her a mean attack dog from the get go, especially after all those scandals reported. Nothing humorous, nothing refreshing, nothing likable. Her speech left a really bad taste in my mouth.

But I agree with Josh. They've changed their plan and are now trying to replicate the 2004. The base does love her.

This was a lousy way to introduce her to the nation. She should have given an uplifting speech to gain some credibility before going negative.

Agree. After all of the speeches earlier in the evening attacking Obama, they didn't need the red meat. If they had backed off on that, it would've made her seem more sympathetic...especially in light of their "the media's being mean to her" push. Now, people are going to think..."go ahead, she can obviously take it."

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Those camera cuts to Willow and Trig reminded me of seeing my clients' families sitting in courtrooms.

I mean - lord love it - Tonya Harding Land.

Am i the only one, what i saw tonight was a slap on every Americans that volunteer their service to serve the communities.

For the first time in my life, i witnessed GOP ridicule service to the less fortunate among us. Palin and Guliani thinks volunteering to serve people that are less fortunate is not service to our country.

This is an insult to every young Americans that volunteer for peace corp., Veteran's home, inner city and indian reservation. Well, the GOPs actually believe this people are not important.


How many women were on stage tonight? Once again the Republicans present an honest, accurate and open public face.

I can see it now, the ads with Hillary taking down Gov Plain.

Obama's 15-minutes is up. Even going into the evening a quick glance at a broad selection of news sites found no mention of Obama. After Palin's extraordinary performance Obama is so, so finished.

All of the cult and media hysteria during the past week was for not, except to cheapen Obama and his campaign. They proved to all that Obama can only succeed with trash. Well, Palin showed him what a real candidate is.

Message to Obama: It's Over.

Matthew
http://www.theproblemwithobama.com

Sir, this is the middle of the Republican Convention. Sarah Palin, the new entertainment tonight darling, spoke. If you can't get press tonight, Republicans are in trouble.

Message from one of your Republican friends, Peggy Noonan (one of Reagan's speechwriters) It's Over.

Please refer to the JSMcCain website to redeem your points toward the McCain/Palin Golf Umbrella - I'm sure they're offering special discounts, or by 10/31 they might even be free (just locate the dumpster!)


She done good. It was all lies, and hate and war/famine/pestilence/death -- but it was effective at rallying the Kill-A-Pagan-Baby-For-Christ base.

I hope (and almost kinda believe) that the voting public will notice that "victory in sight" = "light at the end of the tunnel" -- but who knows?

The real news is that the McWar campaign has chosen to turn hard-right and -- as Mittens ranted -- throw them LIBRUL Bushies out of D.C.

...Only in America! If it works, we fucking well deserve it,

LK

The freak show will soon be done.

I can see it now, the ads with Hillary taking down Gov Plain.

Obama's 15-minutes is up. Even going into the evening a quick glance at a broad selection of news sites found no mention of Obama. After Palin's extraordinary performance Obama is so, so finished.

All of the cult and media hysteria during the past week was for not, except to cheapen Obama and his campaign. They proved to all that Obama can only succeed with trash. Well, Palin showed him what a real candidate is.

Message to Obama: It's Over.

Matthew
http://www.theproblemwithobama.com

Mr. Marshall may have just unearthed Ms. Palin's "potatoe."

Nuke

Anybody notice anything odd about this part of the transcript of the Palin speech released to the press?

Starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we're going to lay more pipelines ... build more new-clear plants ... create jobs with clean coal ... and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal, and other alternative sources.


nookuler proliferation?

LK

"Community organizer" is the new dogwhistle.

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Judging from Tracy...er...Sarah's condescending tone, it's apparent that she and all her adoring little ideologues look down on the notion of public service, volunteerism, and the desire to help inner city communities stand up for themselves.

They sneer at someone who achieves great things on merit and then volunteers his time to help those who are deeply disadvantaged. They applaud one who is given much due to his family's wealth and status and who blows it time and again.

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Judging from Tracy...er...Sarah's condescending tone, it's apparent that she and all her adoring little ideologues look down on the notion of public service, volunteerism, and the desire to help inner city communities stand up for themselves.

They sneer at someone who achieves great things on merit and then volunteers his time to help those who are deeply disadvantaged. They applaud one who is given much due to his family's wealth and status and who blows it time and again.

... it's apparent that she and all her adoring little ideologues look down on the notion of public service ...

Could be an extremely valuable gift -- if the Dems are smart enough to exploit it.

...can't spell Ratfuck without an 'R',

LK

There is the distinct smell of fear and desperation on this thread.

There's much about the Republicans that scare me. But Palin was a hit tonight. She was funny and brutal, a sure-fire winning combination. And even if she didn't write the speech, much of he info came from her. More importantly, she did a killer delivery and came off as real, totally relatable.

Y'all are wearing blinders and don't realize that she is going to cause a huge jump in the polls and put the hurt to Biden. I'm telling you, if she does well in the debate McCain is going to win.


Message from one of your Republican friends, Peggy Noonan (one of Reagan's speechwriters) It's Over.

Please refer to the JSMcCain website to redeem your points toward the McCain/Palin Golf Umbrella - I'm sure they're offering special discounts, or by 10/31 they might even be free (just locate the dumpster!)

from one of your Republican friends, Peggy Noonan (one of Reagan's speechwriters) "It's Over."

Executive summary: Also from Peggy N, on the same open mic:

"They're fucked."

LK

When tyrants tremble sick with fear
And hear their death-knell ringing
When friends rejoyce both far and near
How can I keep from singing?

- trad

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Y'all are wearing blinders and don't realize that she is going to cause a huge jump in the polls and put the hurt to Biden. I'm telling you, if she does well in the debate McCain is going to win.

Y'all are full of it, too. You've been wrong so many times using so many different names, that your taunting is just a joke.

A) She's not going to cause a jump in the polls
B) She's not going to put the hurt to Biden
C) She's not going to do well in the debate

Are you still pretending to be a Hillary supporter or did I miss the conversion to full-blown McCain fan?

just donated $50 to obama...please show your contempt for this hit job and follow my lead!

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Well, little Trig should be getting plenty of quality time with Mom over the next two months. That's assuming she continues to use him as a prop. Otherwise, I guess Bristol will be raising two kids on her own.

Oops! I mentioned her family members. Oh god, how could I!

Okay, let's all take a deep breath and remember: SHE DIDN'T WRITE IT. We all know that Republican speechwriters have been honing this screed for weeks. So these are the Republican talking points, folks. Study them well, since they'll be be repeated ad nauseum for the next two months. The good news is: THIS IS THE BEST THEY'VE GOT.

Now for a little quiz:
Based on the headlines below, which would you say is the more traditional, objectively "journalistic" newspaper? And which is the shameless right-wing-pandering rag?

The Los Angeles Times?
"Sarah Palin addresses GOP convention: VP candidate positions herself as an outsider"

Or...The New York Times?
"Palin Defies Critics and Electrifies Party"

Hmmmm......so much for the "eastern elite"!

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Well, little Trig should be getting plenty of quality time with Mom over the next two months. That's assuming she continues to use him as a prop. Otherwise, I guess Bristol will be raising two kids on her own.

Oops! I mentioned her family members. Oh god, how could I!

The speech was remarkably smug, petty, and sarcastic. It played well with the Republican base at the convention, but how well will it play with the general public?

Compare the more level headed speeches at the DNC with the those at the RNC. The Republicans are very angry. Angry at the media. Angry at the left. Angry at the government. But they're the ones who have been in power for the last 8 years...

Bush himself spoke of "the angry left," but comparing the two conventions, it's the republicans who are angry while the Democrats are happy and celebrating.

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The DEMs need to quash this myth of "executive experience" that the GOP harped on last night. Lots of great presidents and vice presidents in our history had no executive experience prior to taking major office (pretty much all our founding fathers had no executive experience before becoming president or vice president, and in the 20th century neither JFK nor Truman had any executive experience). Besides, Palin is a (less than) one-term governor, is that really much experience? Bush2 was a full-term governor, and his "executive experience" didn't help him very much, as far as I can tell.

Palin seems like a nice person, but when I picture her taking the reigns if McCain falls ill I feel very concerned. Hell, I can picture Cheney taking over if Bush falls ill, but Palin? (OK Maybe that's not a good example, as Cheney pretty much took over from day one). The things they tout as her "experience" sure seem like little more than county fair ribbons (diplomatic experience with Russia? oh please, who do you think you're fooling? That's like claiming you were a "major league catcher" because you grabbed a foul ball in the crowd at Fenway.)

Q. What's the difference between Cheney and Palen?

A. Lipstick

"We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco."

Really?

I found this passage to be particularly telling. Keith had a clip a few weeks back about McCain telling the story of his time in a POW camp, and being tortured to give up names, so he gives up the names of the starting line-up of an NFL team as his squadron members.

Only he was in Pittsburgh, and he claimed he named the line-up of the Pittsburgh Steelers, when every other mention (including by Fred Thompson at the RNC the night before Palin's speech) the story involves the Packers.

We tend to prefer candidates who don't pander to us one way in Green Bay and another way in Pittsburgh.

Someone should get those clips and run them back-to-back all over Pennsylvania.

"We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco."

Really?

I found this passage to be particularly telling. Keith had a clip a few weeks back about McCain telling the story of his time in a POW camp, and being tortured to give up names, so he gives up the names of the starting line-up of an NFL team as his squadron members.

Only he was in Pittsburgh, and he claimed he named the line-up of the Pittsburgh Steelers, when every other mention (including by Fred Thompson at the RNC the night before Palin's speech) the story involves the Packers.

We tend to prefer candidates who don't pander to us one way in Green Bay and another way in Pittsburgh.

Someone should get those clips and run them back-to-back all over Pennsylvania.

Ignore her, focus on McCain. She's the VP candidate for Christ's sake. McCain desperately wants this to be about Palin and he's got an outside shot if it is.

McCain is running for President, not Palin. Let's not lose perspective here...

Ignore her, focus on McCain. She's the VP candidate for Christ's sake. McCain desperately wants this to be about Palin and he's got an outside shot if it is.

McCain is running for President, not Palin. If we keep this election about him HE WON'T WIN - period. All this conversation about being a "heartbeat away" will be moot.

Let's not lose perspective here...

"We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco."

Really?

I found this passage to be particularly telling. Keith had a clip a few weeks back about McCain telling the story of his time in a POW camp, and being tortured to give up names, so he gives up the names of the starting line-up of an NFL team as his squadron members.

Only he was in Pittsburgh, and he claimed he named the line-up of the Pittsburgh Steelers, when every other mention (including by Fred Thompson at the RNC the night before Palin's speech) the story involves the Packers.

We tend to prefer candidates who don't pander to us one way in Green Bay and another way in Pittsburgh.

Someone should get those clips and run them back-to-back all over Pennsylvania.

Ignore her, focus on McCain. She's the VP candidate for Christ's sake. McCain desperately wants this to be about Palin and he's got an outside shot if it is.

McCain is running for President, not Palin. If we keep this election about him HE WON'T WIN - period. All this conversation about being a "heartbeat away" will be moot.

Let's not lose perspective here...

PS- TPM FIX YOUR DAMN WEB PAGE!!!

"We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco."

Really?

I found this passage to be particularly telling. Keith had a clip a few weeks back about McCain telling the story of his time in a POW camp, and being tortured to give up names, so he gives up the names of the starting line-up of an NFL team as his squadron members.

Only he was in Pittsburgh, and he claimed he named the line-up of the Pittsburgh Steelers, when every other mention (including by Fred Thompson at the RNC the night before Palin's speech) the story involves the Packers.

We tend to prefer candidates who don't pander to us one way in Green Bay and another way in Pittsburgh.

Someone should get those clips and run them back-to-back all over Pennsylvania.

"We tend to prefer candidates who don't talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco."

Really?

I found this passage to be particularly telling. Keith had a clip a few weeks back about McCain telling the story of his time in a POW camp, and being tortured to give up names, so he gives up the names of the starting line-up of an NFL team as his squadron members.

Only he was in Pittsburgh, and he claimed he named the line-up of the Pittsburgh Steelers, when every other mention (including by Fred Thompson at the RNC the night before Palin's speech) the story involves the Packers.

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