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Palin Claims "Obama-Biden Democrats" Are Regularly Attacking Her Family, But...

The McCain camp has just blasted out to its list a fundraising email by Sarah Palin claiming that Obama-Biden Democrats are waging frequent attacks on her family. From the email:

Friends, in the course of a few weeks, the Obama-Biden Democrats have launched attack after attack on me, my family and John McCain. They're desperate to win and they'll no doubt launch these attacks against other reformers on our ticket.

I didn't remember any attacks on Palin's family from Obama, Biden, or their top supporters. So I asked the McCain campaign what this was a reference to.

Here, according to a McCain campaign aide, are the attacks on Palin's family from "Obama-Biden Democrats" that the email refers to:

1) Obama finance committee member Howard Gutman questioning Palin's parenting and her willingness to take on the Veep candidate role when her family is so consuming -- a comment he subsequently apologized for.

2) Andrew Sullivan's demand that the McCain campaign release medical records putting to rest rumors about the birth of Trig Palin.

3) A user diary on DailyKos, which is of course the site of leading Obama supporter Markos Moulitsas, raising questions about that pregnancy.

And that's it.

Meanwhile, just today, on a McCain campaign conference call, McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt laid into the alleged ties between Joe Biden's son and the credit card industry.


Late Update: Markos instant-messages me the following response:

"You could use a Daily Kos diary to justify just about any charge ever made. Same with the Free Republic message boards, etc. But that's patently absurd, and just more of her `rile the base' bullshit. If something stupid can be said, you can believe someone on Daily Kos has said it."

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That's the best they can come up with?!?!

That and the Rezko-Blagojevich ad.

It's rare to see a campaign so clearly coming apart at the seams.

Someone said it on the previous thread, I think, but, man, their internals must be terrible.

I mean, Schmidt may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid. Even he must see how pathetic they look. They must see this as their only hope.

That's not a hopelessness you can change, my friends!

McComplain '08

That's not hopelessness we can believe in.

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I can believe in McLame-Palin being that hopeless, my fellow antagonistas.

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I'm not merely disappointed, I take umbradge (here -- you can have one too). In fact, I'm out-and-out livid-in-the-face (unlike pasty-pale McSame) -- that's not embarassemnt, that's red-faced with fury --

So furious I can barely articulate that which I intend to say . . .

NO MENTION of my frequent slinging of anti-Palinisms, my eyebrow-raising sloganeering:

Those aren't earrings. Those are earmarks.

If they're so opposed to earmarks, why have they not attacked me for that?

Lipstick on a Cheney.

Am I not as important as the NY Times? If not, why not? -- I have grey hair (too).

Do I have to hammer yet again on Palin's defense of rapists because rape is an "act of God"!?

What does one have to do to get oneself demonized by these holier-than-though whining victims?

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Another day, another pack of shiny new lies from Steve StupidSchmidt & Co.

Hey, lookie here!  Nothing going on over by that economy thing.  Boring as hell.  What we've got for ya here is sooo much more entertaining!

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You don't remember any cause there haven't been any.

It's a lie. Boy do they whine a lot.

Yes, the more nasty the Repubs get, the better I feel about the election.

I'm beginning to think Phil Graham made a slip of the tongue and meant to say "We're a party of whiners".

Jesus, you just KNOW that their internal polls are shit. Reminds me of a Jerky Boys sketch of a cantankerous old man yelling at an insurance rep about an accident he was in: "Punitive damages! Sue you, sue me... sue everybody!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjBlPucpd0

Oh, and Obama up 11 in NM? Holy moley, is it time for Romney to be called up from the minors yet?

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Wow.

I believe it, however.

Tena, welcome to the double digit club! (IA here)

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Don't I wish NM was my permanent legal domicile instead of Texas.

If you were back here (Texas) they would just be trying to recruit you to go to NM to organize! I guess they want us to help in the states that might have a chance.

We'll go blue yet, you watch.

Tena:
I left Texas 15 years ago, so happy to be gone. My parents are still in Fort Worth and my sister and her family are in San Antonio. Amazing how their view of the world is completely different than mine. Too many media filters and too much Fox News. How have you managed to stay sane?

McCain wants Romney, Bloomberg and Warren Buffet to be the 3 person oversite group on this crisis..

"REFORMERS" on their ticket...They must be thinking of the reformers up there in Alaska doing their good work on trooper gate! Stopping and obstructing an investigation! Alas, Palin is a sorry mistake for a VP candidate that will be forever recalled as the the LOSER for their ticket!

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She SHOULD be subject of RECALL in Alaska RIGHT NOW!

Does 3 "attacks" equal, attack after attack? What a joke...

The next song to be played at the McCain rally should be Desperado.

Ps, Where has Palin been? When is her next interview?

Except instead of riding fences the McBandits just sit on them...

So true, after reading the lyrics, it fits perfectly to McCain.

On Sarah Palin:
Dont you draw the queen of diamonds, boy
Shell beat you if shes able
You know the queen of heats is always your best bet

and

I know that you got your reasons
These things that are pleasin you
Can hurt you somehow

On him being President:
Youre loosin all your highs and lows
Aint it funny how the feeling goes away?

How good and how ironic, Desperado is John McCain.

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Well, yeah, so long as they didn't occur simultaneously, and occurred in relatively rapid succession.

But how long would that take? 2-3 minutes, tops?

They're desperate. Lies and constant whining is all they have left.

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Reminds me of the "Electric Flag" song --

Whine, whine, whine!

MORE whine!

MORE mooseburger WHINE!

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Everything that's come out of the McCain campaign today reeks of desperation.

Smells like burning tires and rotting garbage.

Sullivan's not a Democrat. He's just a libertarian who is stunned how far off the map the Republican Party is these days.

Yeah. He's a self-proclaimed conservative, and proud of it.

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Sullivan's not a Democrat. He's just a libertarian who is stunned how far off the map the Republican Party is these days.

Yeah, but Palin's worshippers don't know that. To them, anyone who dares criticize the Moose Dresser is an 'Obama-Biden Democrat' by default.

No shit!

That's the 2nd time in the last month or two someone on the right has called Sullivan a "Democrat." I saw Ann Coulter do it on Fox.

You know someone is desperate when in order to make a point he or she must paint Andrew Sullivan as a Democrat.

Coulter is still around? I thought she had finally slithered away.

Yeah. Found it.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/coulter-vs-sull.html

She was talking about how Dems want Obama just because of his middle name and when pressed to cite an example all she could spit out was Sullivan.

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I don't know that they're that desperate: they haven't called Hagel an "Obama-Biden" Democrat yet.

But if they do get to doing that, you know that next on the list after him to call an "Obama-Biden" Democrat is John McCain.

And 100% right on the Babygate issue

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I'm still waiting for proof that the TX-to- Anchorage commercial flight story holds water.

C'mon Sully, join us. You know you want to!

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Andrew Sullivan. The Andrew Farging Sullivan, writer and right-wing tool is an Obama Democrat?

WTF?!?!? Now, I know I have slipped into Bizzaro World.

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No you haven't. I thought I had too but Sully got the message about 2 years ago - he turned on the war and Bush in a big way. He's been doing a magnificent job on McLame-Painful.

I know it's a hard thing to swallow, but I emailed Sully and told him I took back every bad thing I ever said about it.

He was nice enough to answer.

Sullivan did a nice piece on Obama in the Atlantic before the primaries. "Why Obama Matters" He also supported Kerry in '04.

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Sullivan always supports the Irish candidates over all the others.

I think that Kos diary was only up for a couple days and quickly debunked and summarily removed from the site. Sullivan was encouraging Palin to disprove it conclusively, that is to put that nonsense to rest.

Interestingly, the only one that was offsides was the actual Obama campaign member. Perhaps this is the McPTSD campaign's justification for this really weak sauce? Or they're just full of crap.

Fine, I'll go with the second choice

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Fuck that shit anyway - there's a goddamn first amendment and she herself started that whole controversy with her wholly bullshit story about her water breaking in Texas and her demanding to be flown home so the baby could be born in Alaska - like this effects his citizenship. That's a tall tale right out of some book of goofy folklore. You cannot do that - and not with your 5th child, especially.


Fuck her whining - you hear me Sarah? Fuck you and your whining and your spurious cries of Sexism - you slut. You let a dirty old man put you in a position of incredible power you have no business being in.

Now, Tena, you are not showing proper deference to the right honorable Klondike Barbie.

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Yeah I forget how damn delicate that pitbull in lipstick apparently is.

She has to be sheltered.

ThinkProgress: Comedian Tiny Fey is not happy over Carly Fiorina’s allegations that her Saturday Night Live skit portraying Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) was “sexist.” “I saw one lady trying to form a thought that it was sexist on the news,” Fey said of Fiorina. “But she didn’t really get it together. Probably because she was a lady and she was dumb. [pause] Wait. Is that sexist?”

She has to be there, how else can she lead the PALIN-McCain administration. Bet Grandpa soiled his Depends when he heard Caribou Barbie greet the crowd with that gem last week.

So, after she trotted out her family, made a big deal about them on the national stage, why are they off limits? They would have been if she had not used them the way she did.
So, her family is off limits but, Clintons blow job wasn't?
Do I see a contradiction here?

So, after she trotted out her family, made a big deal about them on the national stage, why are they off limits? They would have been if she had not used them the way she did.
So, her family is off limits but, Clintons blow job wasn't?
Do I see a contradiction here?

The name of the game is "distraction". Distract from the state of the economy. Distract from how John McCain championed deregulation throughout his three decades in Congress. Distract from how McCain wanted to put our Social Security funds at the mercy of the stock market (DJIA currently down 350 points today). Distract from how John McCain wanted to do the same thing for our health care system that he did for our financial system.

Don't let them distract you. Keep your focus on the issues that matter. Keep your eye on the prize.

Shorter Sarah Palin: "HEY GUYS, LOOK OVER THERE!!"


Someone earlier put it perfectly. A Campaign of Whiners.

The McCain and Palin pair are starting to become annoying, and that's not a good thing if you're aiming to capture people's hearts and imagination running for President.

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What is this, the day by day McCain/Palin calendar of personal grievance?

The only one injecting Palin's family into the fray is the McCain campaign. It's now the second time today they tried hard to change the subject -- Rezko first, now the Palin family angle.

All they have is Gutman, and he apologized a billion years ago. Sully is a libertarian Palin-hater (yes, Johnny, they exist), and holding the Democratic nominee personally responsible for everything said on a lefty political blog would be as sensible as holding the GOP guy personally responsible for everything posted on freerepublic or sent around in those "anonymous" email forwards.
So...good luck with that.

Oh my god! Someone on the internet said something bad about Sarah Palin! What an outrage! And so unfair too!

Oh wait, was I supposed to use more exclamation points? Damn.

True.

I am pretty sure that no one on any right-leaning blog has ever put up a diary that was completely false about Obama.

Gracious.

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Yeah, but Obama can take it. He's male.

Ooops -- is that "sexist"?

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So they actually read stuff we write? Heck, Sarah, you ain't seen nothin' yet!!!

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Mang, I wish!

Hey Sarah!!!!!

"B-B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen n-n-nothin' yet!"

Psyclone - MIND yourself - it is not just SOMEBODY posting something bad on the internet - it is a Obama-Biden DEMOCRAT repeatedly ATTACKING
Sarah Palin and her FAMILY. Get with the program,sonny, adjust that tinfoil cap so you can get the message right!!

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Go to the whiteboard and write two or three times:

"I will be appropriately deferential to Mooseburger Queen Sarah Palin."

they will talk about anything to avoid the economy.

Well, this is the sort of nonsense we've come to expect from the McCain camp at this point. Nice attempt to distract attention from it now being over 3 weeks since Princess Sarah was chosen with her hiding from the media.

Oh, and Andrew Sullivan is a conservative, not a Democrat. Oops.

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STOP BLOGGING, Sarah commands! OBEY NOW!!!

Yech!!! Has she never heard of the 1st Amendment?

apparently not! one more disqualifier!

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OMG!!! You used the name of She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Questioned!!!!

Quick run outside and see if there are Deatheater Signs in the sky . . .

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It's disgusting how that family is being pimped. I feel sorry for those kids, they've got troubles and they're being purposefully put out to engender sympathy when those troubles are made public.

You can't leave kids completely out of a presidential campaign, but you don't need to inject them into it. I think Obama has handled his kids well: present, but not in the lime light.

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I can no longer stay silent. I delivered Trig but before I entered the birthing suite I was ordered by the hospital administrator to wear a mask over my eyes as well as my mouth. So I'm still not sure whose issue he is.

Why don't they release the birth records?

More lies from the lying liars. They are making a cottage industry of this stuff "McSame/Paleo's Discount Prevarications And Half-Truths -- Step Right Up!"

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Is Andrew Sullivan even an American?

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Are you?

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I think he would like to become one except that the U.S. immigration policies on HIV+ individuals has been a bit of an impediment. But no, he's not a U.S. citizen.

They're trying to create another false controversy to distract everyone once again. With the economy in the toilet however and Bush wanting over 700 billion from taxpayers to bail out wallstreet on the verge of collapse, no one is interested in their latest attempt to turn the race once again into a soap opera. When the campaign is about issues the repugs have nothing to offer.

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They DO TOO have something to offer! --

WHINING!

Whining is right. Isn't that the way Democrats always lose?

Boo-hoo, the bullies are picking on me! Mommmmmeeeee!

All she has to do is show us why she exhibited such bad judgment in travelling all the home from Dallas to have Trig, endangering him in the process as well as not having him prematurely with Downs in a hospital w/ no NICU? Why is that so hard??

Shh! Questions like these will shatter her fragile ego!

Isn't Andrew Sullivan a Republican? She's lucky she's not a democrat. The GOPers would be having a field day with her AKIP mermbership. Their founder Joe Vogler said 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government' Imagine what O'Reilly and Hannity would say about her?

Here's an interview with the AKIP on Sarah Palin's involvement

http://www.newsone.com/elections/article/akip-interview-on-palin

Wait a minute. This whining coming from a candidate that has to have a different form of debate than everyone else does because she isn't an experienced debater?

Sarah Palin - STFU. Please. You have no room to whine about anything when you're campaign is deliberately changing the rules in the middle of the game to compensate for you're inexperience. Sounds very sexist to me. And it is very insulting to the American people.

(This picture of her is really starting to creep me out)

Sullivan is British by birth I believe but an American citizen and licensed bloviator.

He is a citizen, actually, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for that post.

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I agree. I'd like to know what difference it makes if he isn't a citizen.

Are you going to only allow citizens to talk about the country or something?

It makes absolutley no difference to me from whence he bloviates from. Or you for that matter.

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Thanks!

I wasn't asking you - I was asking the person who wanted to know if Sully is a citizen - or "American" as the commenter put it.

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Well, if he's not a citizen, then he can't be a (registered) Democrat, as SchmidtHead wails.

I have no idea if he is or not a citizen.

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Oh bosh!

Sullivan attended Harvard.

Harvard is in the US.

Harvard was the first college established in the British colonies.

Therefore, Sullivan is licensed to bloviate as if actually a citizen.


"Attacking" Sarah Palin's dysfunctional family is not appropriate.

Attacking Sarah Palin's public record of mismanagement, fiscal irresponsibility, negligence, incompetence, corruption, cronyism, ideological extremism, political divisiveness, vindictive abuse of power, and brazen, preposterous dishonesty is entirely appropriate.

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O fuck that. She drags that family around, talks about it, uses it for her own purposes.


The hell they aren't a subject we can talk about. Two thirds of the reason she's on the ticket is "Family Values." I"m not having this fucking fight again - her family is fair game because she made it fair game.

Who's attacking her family? Some random anonymous schmuck on a blog comment section? Who cares?

Attacking Sarah Palin's public record of mismanagement

of her family,

negligence

of her family, and

brazen, preposterous dishonesty

about her family

is entirely appropriate.

I agree entirely.

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Hee hee!

Who said were attacking her? She did. She's throwing her family in front of a crowded highway then complaining when cars drive by. Completely hypocritical and despicable the way she's using them.

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Yeah: She points at her family and says:

"See them? They're my family.

"DON'T YOU DARE LOOK AT THEM!"

Whining is right. Isn't that the way Democrats always lose?

Up is down. Left is right. Failed Democratic strategy is Republican puling desperation. Welcome to Bizzaro Politics '08.

"If something stupid can be said, you can believe someone on Daily Kos has said it."

Ouch. Markos, why do you hate your Kossacks?

Markos loves his Kossacks like God loves human beings. But neither will stop anyone from saying or doing something stupid. The joys of free will.

"If something stupid can be said, you can believe someone on Daily Kos has said it."

Yeah, and as a Kos diarist, I can probably claim a few of those stupidities myself. LOL. Hey, at least we don't all take ourselves too seriously :D

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at least he admits it.

like when he said "i'm not linking to skippy any more."

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Daily Kos has almost 200,000 people registered, a few of those are Republicans, some are insane, others are 'low information,' many, many are smart and articulate .(IMO)

To: McPalin Campaign:

DKos is not a single-entity-spokesperson.


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They know that, but they don't care.

Speaking of Pailnistas: has anyone noticed Stephen Colbert's new glasses? He hasn't said a word, but somethin' ain't right.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

"You could use a conversation overheard at Starbucks to justify just about any charge ever made. Same with Applebees, etc. But that's patently absurd, and just more of her `rile the base' bullshit. If something stupid can be said, you can believe someone at Starbucks has said it."

Kos made a mad-lib, and a pretty good one. You could do this with just about anything.

Wouldn't it be great if McPalin attacks David Brooks as a part of the Obama-Biden team of elitists?
Cheer up folks, this nonsense means we are winning.

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O I'm perfectly cheerful. I know what it means and god I'd love to see someone stick a pin in Bobo and deflate that Bobo balloon he has for an ego.

Don't forget George Will.

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too late for that...

I frankly had forgotten she has a family. God knows you can't tell by watching her operate.

I love the little cutie that smoothed her baby brother's hair with her slobber. Isn't that Piper? Who couldn't love a kid named after an airplane?

I hope she gets her mommy back in Alaska soon. (forever)

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God knows you can't tell by watching her operate.

That's very true.

I've seen pictures of her doing some kind of official business holding onto Trig and she looks like she's carrying a doll around - swear to god.

You can't tell by the way she operates - I totally agree.

sometimes I say stupid things on daily kos.

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I occasionally say stupid things is real life. Just to fool others that I'm actually fallible.

Oh Noez!

If Palin cannot stand up to one diarist on Dkos, then how in the world can she stand up to Putin?

I thought Sarah was a barrapitbull, or something like that...

Couple this with the Davis/Schmidt attack the NYTimes story, and it's clear they are so freaking scared and flailing like idiots now, swinging at anything and everything.

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Ben Smith at Politico, of all places, posted a piece about the fact that the McCain campaign's attempt to blame the press just went overboard, and risked making them look, well, like they were trying to lie.

This is just more of the same.

And Andy Sullivan is a Democrat in the same way that I'm Michelle Pfeiffer.

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Well hell, CT - I think we've pretty well established Sully isn't a Democrat. I hate that that makes you not Michelle Pfeiffer.

;)

I enjoyed your very HONEST post regarding the character flaws of Miss P. I have been trying to clean up everything I say about her, however, you said it all.

Thank you!

I think Kos overstates the competence of dKos bloggers. There are several stupid things we have not said:

a) Having the VP involved in a religious cult with a military arm is a good thing.
b) McCain understands the economy.
c) The lying is just a transitional thing and will stop if McCain wins.

"... it's clear they are so freaking scared and flailing like idiots now, swinging at anything and everything."

Ain't it grand? Pass the popcorn please, and I'll have another beer!

Aside from the few they could cite, the claims about the pregnancy were made the weekend she was announced and have all but disappeared. I believe they disappeared about the time Obama told everyone family is off-limits!!

But you know, I still hear a lot of slanderous crap from McCain/Palin Republicans about the Obama's... like they're terrorists. I find the terrorist references far more insulting than who's the baby's momma?

Jennifer

Apparently during the 5 minute vetting of this idiot and the subsequent 2 minute meet-and-greet with McCain they forgot to tell this airhead that life was going to get tough outside of the woods. Her family would be under a constant national microscope and there would be a lot of people, A LOT OF PEOPLE who didn't like her.

So toughen up your skin sweetie because you're in for a bumpy ride. You made your kids fair game when you used them so blatantly as props. You espouse your pseudo religious values and then force your daughter into a shotgun wedding, claim you're fine and dandy with her pregnancy, and espouse rights for your family that you wouldn't allow other women. And lets not get started about how many times that poor DW baby was passed around and used.

Maybe Phil Gramm should take her aside and set down some rules about who can and can't whine.

Today is the day we witnessed the unraveling of the McCain campaign. Their accusation has got to be the craziest, funniest, weirdest shit i've heard in quite some time.

Does this mean we can start holding the McCain campaign responsible for all the nuttiness posted at No Quarter, Free Republic, and World Net Daily? We could make them spend the rest of the campaign denouncing all the craziness on those sites.

Yes. Yes it does.

Yes.

Interesting, yeah, I've been getting emails asking me to join a "drive to Nevada" effort (I'm in CA). Can't afford the time, myself, but I thought about it...

COME ON NM. HANG IN THERE!!!!

Another song for McCain...

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes.
How can he remember
who he's talkin' to?
'Cause I know it ain't me,
and I hope it isn't you.

Ambulance Blues by Neil Young

Oh right, that log cabin Democrat, Andrew Sullivan hurt their "wittle fillins". This campaign is such a farce, I can't understand why McCains mother is voting for him!

I am so sick of Palin and McCain's whining. This female is a FIRST CLASS HYPOCRITE! The sight and the sound of her voice nauseates me. As far as her dysfunctional, it was she that paraded them across the stage...a privilege that the Obama family would not have been granted if his daughter was pregnant and not married. Obama has worked hard to get elected in spite of the many odds that he has faced...this PitBull w/lipstick(afemaledog) just rolled her and all of her children like she is entitled to be there simply because she is a female. Obama have demanded that his camp would not attack her family, and this is a ploy to get sympathy before the great debate...and to put Biden on notice. To the racist out, the McCain are insulting your intelligence without the benefits

The same scumbag Oilbamabots that smeared Bill Clinton as a Racist and cheered while Hillary was called a F*cking Wh*re are at it again. All cult member Oilbamabots should be sent to live in France. Just get the Oilbamy scumbags out of the country.

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Gibberish.

Intelligent gibberish.

But still gibberish.

And a hateful lie.

Well, here's some more Palin-bashing from a Left-wing blog: Take your sessesionist First Dude husband, no abstinence-practicin' daugher and her baby-daddy back to Alaska where all the Republicans who you pissed off can feast on the remains of your political career. And, when you die, I hope polar bears, wolves and moose feast upon your carcass.

Have a nice day, Sarah.

Just picked this up in a comment on a NYT piece. Does anyone know a more about this?

"Did Bill mention Palin today ? I just saw Sarah Palin have a total emotional meldown today at an appearance with McBush. A reporter asked a simple question and Palin started yelling in a shrill voice about the media being shamefull, picking on un wed pregnant teenagers and sending investigators to spy on her. McBush was clearly startled and had to cut her off. if this is Pit Bull Palin under pressure. Better keep this Pit Bull out of the pit."

Sarah - Sarah:
Everyone is hitting you so hard, poor liar girl.
Next up is Newsweek Magazine - just have your campaign managers call them out on tomorrow's telephone conference call this one tears you apart:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160080/page/1

Sarah Palin's lies are the political issue. We deduct that Trig Palin is her grandson. Palin, the mismanaging absentee mother is the issue: we deduct that the 17 year old high school dropout daughter bore one Downs Syndrome child in April 2008 and now is pregnant a second time by a high school drop-out
boyfriend. The issue is that Sarah Palin has no moral compass whatsoever: an unmarried twice pregnant teenager, a cover-up lie about the April '02 infant's mother, a husband who operates as a
shadow governor bullying state employees far and wide and who tried to fire the brother-in-law, Trooper Wooten, so the Trooper when unemployed couldn't get custody of his children. Sarah Palin's
family values read like a seedy backwoods tragedy.
And the Republicans propose that Palin can direct
the government of the USA? NOT.

She's clean compared to Cheney.

HusseinTenaX.....BRAVO!!!! Your posts are so good that I registed just so I can tell you....Please keep them coming! My friends and I all feel the same as you do, but you have a gift when it comes to posting :-)

Note: I am posting this as a reply and a regular post because I don't want anyone left out. I hope this not considered rude or anything. I really have not done this much.

I rarely post because there are so many here who express the same or similar opinions much better than I can write them out.

I have to agree with HelenD about the quality of TenaX's posts. But this site is loaded with quality, with some exceptions naturally.

I can't credit them all by name especially since my memory seems lacking.

TheraP, TrollCritic (I really miss those posts, where did they go?), well on second thought...

There are just too many so I think I will just stop here. Maybe I am just a goofball, but I thinking you guys deserve some credit.

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As for fogu2 and the like, I am not a democrat. I am an independent voter who has not been pleased with either party. I have read the interviews, speeches, and watched the clips when available. Whatever Senator McCain may have been in the past, candidate McCain has dishonored it.

I wanted to explain why I came to this conclusion and appeal to you give both sides careful consideration with as little bias as possible. But I realize it is a waste of time.

You aren't going to believe me when I say I came to my conclusion without bias. And since You obviously come here because you enjoy trying to get people riled up, I have to wonder whether bias is playing a major role in your support of McCain. Actually, I sometimes I wonder if you aren't a deliberate caricature.

McCain has trashed his own standards and morals as professed by him in the past.

Sincerely,

Miles Webster

If something stupid can be said, you can believe someone on Daily Kos has said it."

Markos almost got it right. What he should have said is:

If something stupid can be said, you can believe SARAH PALIN or JOHN McCAIN said it."

I think they are going to re-run the Sean Hannity interview with her from last week over and over, change the background colors and move the questions around. Then they will splice in photos of Obama with William Ayers and play scary music.

Where are Palin's tax returns?

They're in a secure location along with Dick Cheney.

I REALLY REALLY DO STILL want to see those birth records for the secret, invisible Trig pregnancy with the 10-hour interstate labor flight. Kos can call me a nut all he wants but I am not satisfied.

Oh, and, by the way, there IS no record of Trig's birth at the hospital he was reportedly born in.

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Would the record be kept at the hospital? Or would it be forwarded to the appropriate state records agency?

And can someone - anyone - tell me exactly how the Palins have a net worth of $10 million?

Seriously. They've never done anything in their public lives that would net them anything like $10 million.

Inquiring minds wanna know...

... and wouldn't mind knowing who's Trig's daddy either!

- Porcupine Palin

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Profits derived from the mooseburger franchise?

We dont need a so-called christian right-wing nutjob, who believes in unbridled capitalism, scoffs at global warming and kills and hunts wolves and polar bears for pleasure.

Sarah Stalin's tax returns are going up Cheney's fireplace this fine September evening, along with a few other things.

Gotta keep warm.

The wheels are seriously coming off the cart. Forget a vetting process, did they even bother to tell her the ins and outs of running for an executive level government position? I would assume by now that someone has told her what "it is exactly a vice president does all day", but good god, she makes it sound like the only prerequisite for running for higher office is to be a "good person" and have a wholesome looking family.

I hope Obama can start to capitalize on this and find a way to attack McCain on his dismal record on veteran's rights and benefits. Going by his record, it appears that Republicans love the war, they just dislike the soldier who fights in it.

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Somebody call the WAHHHHHMbulance!

She's a public, political figure. This sort of thing is going to happen.

Like 'W's substance issues
Like Clinton's female issues
Like Bush Sr's progeny issues
Like Reagan's gay daughter

Every Prez has something the Press is gonna make an issue of, that has no substance....big deal. Grow up and get over it....

A couple of weeks ago he had a column about the HIV+ laws and mentioned he might not be able to stay in the US in a year. He is a landed immigrant, not a citizen.

Just FYI.

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He freaked out on her and the Republican Party this weekend on Bill Maher. Check out Tullycasts2 on YouTube (and look around because HBO has started cracking down on RealTime postings there).

Oh Puuuhleeeeze.

Dear Sarah :

If you had any right what so ever to be the next Vice President you could answer a single goddamn question without a screener or old daddy McFuckup to rush to your side your sneering coward. And if your fucked up bohunk family couldn't take an ounce of scrutiny then leave them AT HOME...( they obviously didn't read the Good Book you flog everyone else with ) You fed them into the sausage machine and posed them against their will for your own congratulation, and when the equal but opposite occurred, you realised like in so many other areas of your life , you were Simply Not Prepared.
Your team mates have been purely reprehensible in regard to other candidates home lives and personal details both fact and fiction, so I say Your Rules you repugnant fake .

Like all republicans ,you talk a good game and crumble in the rumble. Cowards the lot .

Shortest.Ugliest.Career.In.History.

now they are trying to play the victim obama is on record the day after she joined the ticket as saying attacks on family are not to be done

not that this ever stopped mcsame

Where the HECK is Obama?? Hit back on this by insisting on the PROOF that his campaign is doing any such thing. Just like they "airlifted" tons of Democratic operatives in Alaska, too, right? Remember that PHONY nugget?

Note: I am posting this as a reply and a regular post because I don't want anyone left out. I hope this not considered rude or anything. I really have not done this much.

I rarely post because there are so many here who express the same or similar opinions much better than I can write them out.

I have to agree with HelenD (@Sept226:24pm) about the quality of TenaX's posts. But this site is loaded with quality, with some exceptions naturally.

I can't credit them all by name especially since my memory seems lacking.

TheraP, TrollCritic (I really miss those posts, where did they go?), well on second thought...

There are just too many so I think I will just stop here. Maybe I am just a goofball, but I think you guys deserve some credit.

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As for fogu2 and the like, I am not a democrat. I am an independent voter who has not been pleased with either party. I have read the interviews, speeches, and watched the clips when available. Whatever Senator McCain may have been in the past, candidate McCain has dishonored it.

I wanted to explain why I came to this conclusion and appeal to you give both sides careful consideration with as little bias as possible. But I realize it is a waste of time.

You aren't going to believe me when I say I came to my conclusion without bias. And since You obviously come here because you enjoy trying to get people riled up, I have to wonder whether bias is playing a major role in your support of McCain. Actually, I sometimes I wonder if you aren't a deliberate caricature.

McCain has trashed his own standards and morals as professed by him in the past.

Sincerely,

Miles Webster

NPR played a sound clip this morning of Crash McCain's rally in Scranton yesterday. During a Q&A segment, one woman got up and yelled at "the media" for being so mean to Palin about her Juno-esque 17-year-old, and the crowd roared.

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I've always tweaked my conservative friends when they whine about all the "leftist political correctness" that is ruining the debate.

The right-wing version of language scrubbing and forced pluralism is in full swing in regards to Palin.

Sarah Palin gives
us way too much fodder -- she's
quite a peice of work.

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Please, no more about Sarah "I bite my tongue 'cause it's cute" Palin. Her impact on the media is huge. She's a primary topic in the blogosphere, "People," and the supermarket check-out mags. But her impact on the election is neglegible. Because of her, McCain has picked up a few votes on the far right, and lost a few more in the center. That's it. So no more about the Wasilla Hillbillies. Or else. If I'm forced to come back and comment about this again, I'll be armed with swear words, smears and pith.

Please, no more about Sarah "I bite my tongue 'cause it's cute" Palin. Her impact on the media is huge. She's a primary topic in the blogosphere, "People," and the supermarket check-out mags. But her impact on the election is neglegible. Because of her, McCain has picked up a few votes on the far right, and lost a few more in the center. That's it. So no more about the Wasilla Hillbillies. Or else. If I'm forced to come back and comment about this again, I'll be armed with swear words, smears and pith.