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Palin Again Recites Lie About Bridge To Nowhere

Unchastened by the multiple media outlets who have pointed out that Sarah Palin's claim to have said "thanks but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere is a lie, she repeated the falsehood again today on the trail today in Lebanon, Ohio. Here's her quote:

"You're gonna hear a lot about the abusive practice of earmarks in Congress from our good senator here. We championed in Alaska reform of the old earmark process. I told Congress, `Thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge To Nowhere up in Alaska. If our state wanted a bridge, we were gonna build it ourselves."

As Josh notes, the falsehood has now been debunked by everyone from Newsweek to the Associated Press to the Wall Street Journal. But here's Palin keeping up with it anyway.

McCain aides clearly think they can just keep pushing this lie until the news orgs tire of pointing out that it's false -- or, as McCain campaign Rick Davis might put it, until the news orgs start treating her with "deference."

Perhaps some will worry that continuing to point out the lies runs the risk of coming across as indecorous. But let's keep doing it anyway. As Newsweek put it in a very good piece on this, the movement towards holding the McCain campaign accountable for the falsehood every time he and his campaign repeat it represents "a certain kind of progress."


Late Update: Obama spokesperson Tommy Vietor responds:

"On the same day that dozens of news organizations have exposed Governor Palin's phony Bridge to Nowhere claim as a 'naked lie,' she and John McCain continue to repeat the claim in their stump speeches. Maybe tomorrow she'll tell us she sold it on eBay."

Late Late Update: Here's the video:


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Greg, posted this in the last thread, I think this deserves attention:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Koch_backs_Obama_calls_Palin_scary.html

Could be a game changer in FL.

Florida is one of the states that Palin seems to have gone over very poorly. Obama needs to seize this opportunity.

Agreed... for the state to be TIED at the height of the RNC bounce is promising.

That said, I'm happy to do without FL and OH for once... sick of those two states always deciding every single election.

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I am seriously fed up with Ohio and Florida being the determining states.

No offense to residents of Ohio or Florida, mind you, but enough is enough.

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Agreed.

Especially Florida - the mix there is so weird. The Cuban exiles in Florida just drive me nuts. They have controlled the politics in Florida for years - ever since they got there. And they are a bunch of reactionaries. They were by and large the Cubans with American money who got out and of course they are death on communism.

I don't have a problem with that, but it shouldn't control our entire policy toward Cuba.

There is a new generation of South Florida Cubans with a more pragmatic viewpoint. They were very receptive to Obama's speech in Miami a couple of months ago.

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I am so glad to hear that. I can't tell you how glad.

OMG, really, with due respect to any Ohio or Florida residents on this site, I apologize, but enough already. There are 48 other states in the U.S.

Um . . . All that being said, I'll still take FL if they want to vote for us. ;-}

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But Tena! Sniff! What about Elian?

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Poor little Elian.

The tragedy of the century that he had to go back to his only remaining parent.

I still cannot believe all that hoopla that was just an attempt to make this kid an orphan.

jesus!

SO ARE WE!!!!

Why are we not SOLID BLUE?

Try not being so fed up, and have you candidates fight the right-wing thought in our state. Change us to effing blue and you will have another state to get fed up with.

We are sick of you too. Convert the states in question and shut the F up.

I don't know if Koch's endorsement itself is a game changer but yeah, it does point to a possible shift in that demographic. That endorsement really is a shocker to me.

Also: he's 83 years old? Goddamn. I thought he was younger than McCain.

McCain is younger than 83? You'd never know it to look at him.

How can there be so many people in this country who buy this crap?

Another morning cup of sadness.

It could have something to to with the near total silence on the part of the media. If it's reported, but without the gravity, or repetition that would catch the public attention.

This is the real genius of Rovian politics. It is why Mukasey has a framed picture of Eric Blair (George Orwell) on the wall of government office. They know that they can fabricate, falsefy, and commit any manner of crime in the light of day, without consequence. Open flagrant corruption is controlled simply, it's the secret kind that catches up with them.


Juan "The Fox" Williams was on NPR this morning explaining that Palin's lie wasn't really a lie, just an omission. The anchor didn't buy it, but didn't directly challenge it either.

If there was anything close to a level playing field McCain/Palin wouldn't have a prayer. As things are, President Palin is likely in our futures.

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Ding. Ding. Ding. You get a prize for this comment asdf. Ain't it the truth.

Yes, but it's also their weakness.

They stick robotically to their scripted lies, which does make them victims of their own inauthenticity, of State-controlled manipulation.

They are in fact victimized by the process itself.

Call them Soviets, and America will see them in a new light, and it will be true.

It's time for Biden to step in with a zinger: The only thing that comes out of her mouth is a noun a verb and a lie.

Pufferfish

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I'm hoping Biden makes her look like the chopped liver she is when the debates roll around. I know he can wear his foot in his mouth, but when he leaves it on the floor, he's pretty verbally adroit. Not to mention, Biden has a genuine capacity for facile cognition...

The debate. There will be only one.

Why do the corporations want President Palin? They will be screwed if we start another war too.

Someone please explain why the mainstream is pushing this disaster so hard?

I think your question answers itself.

Yeah, I really don't see the upside here for McCain - but then what else do they have to run on?

The Obama team has an opening. This has the potential to become part of the narrative if Obama is willing to hammer away at the issue. It's not all that often you catch a politician in a naked lie. McCain's willingness to state flatly false assertions about the Bridge, earmarks and Obama's tax plan all fit into a theme.

Pufferfish

You have to understand: it's US, vs. Joseph Goebbals (the "Big Lie" technique. You know. Nazis).

Facts are stupid things, in Republoworld. Think back to the Ron Suskind story in 2004, about the R operative who chortled at our silly, naive ties to "the reality-based world". Think all the way back to a couple of days ago when Rick Davis took your lunch money and gave you a wedgie, when he told you, flat-out, that this campaign was "not going to be about issues".

"NOT ABOUT ISSUES"?!? I ask: what kind of respect does that show, toward a representative form of government? They laugh at democracy. They laugh at fairness. They laugh at reality, for God's sake. They're only in it to win, and that justifies everything. Presumably, if they had to kill grandma to win, she'd be dead meat minus the silly debate over it.

So Sarah Palin's lies have been outed, in a few Obama appearances and commercials? Okay fine. She TRIPLES the amount of times she says them. It's the Rove way.

Yep. But our push-back is getting somewhat more effective.

a) As Greg says, we're calling her on it each time.

and more importantly

b) As Matt Y. and Josh M. have suggested, and Wash Monthly has reiterated, we're going to try to shame the MSM into making this a narrative, and not just a factcheck. When someone lies (about the bridge, or about their opponent's tax policy), and just keeps repeating the lie after it has been debunked, you have to at some point say that they are liars.

This time, there might possibly be a few journalists out there pissed off enough to go there.

a) As Greg says, we're calling her on it each time.

But "we" are NOT getting the airplay on our "calling"!!

Sarah IS getting airplay... each and every time she simply ignores our pathetic squeals of protest, and goes out and does it again.

See the problem, here? (Professional Democratic operatives obviously do not).

Look, it's a problem for them, too.

She is spewing swill written on the Government dole.

She is being victimized by the State she purports to oppose. In fact, she is a victim, though a victimizer herself, and her lies do terrible damage to us all. They have already damaged her. And McCain? Imagine..

But it is this remote-controlled idiocy that brought us Katrina, Iraq, and everything else.

Alex:

None of these journalists have a spine. Our narrative is NOT being told. Obama and Biden have to call her a liar outright. If Kerry had told the Swift Boat Fools you are liars, I defended my country with honor. Where was George Bush, why did he check "No" to defend this country and what happened in Alabama? Why did he leave the National Guard with such mystery? The whole election would have taken a different narrative.

Joe

How do you know?

Lying is an endurance sport.

Make her lie as much as possible. She is no Olympian.

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Besides that. Her pastor tells her to search the scripture for guidance. Now.... where in the bible does is teach you to lie?

I think instead of a press conference, we should trap her into a televised bible study! I'd love to see some scholars go after the lying that way!

It may be irrational, but a question on this is my biggest hope for the VP debate. Even though most of us remember Quayle and its non-impact, it could be pivotal in terms of public perception of Palin.

Does she have any other lines?

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"any other lies"

There... fixed it for you!

Glad someone took the bait ;)

How about this line on Palin?

Sarah Palin charged victims of rape for their rape kits as Mayor of Wasilla.

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txta

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Well, I guess this could be question for Charlie Gibson, but since it's Charlie (Does Rev. Wright love the country as much as you do?) Gibson, he'll be too afraid to ask it: Governor Palin, why did you take funding for the Bridge to Nowhere, and why do you claim that you didn't?

He will hit her with devastating questions like, "John McCain, great candidate, or greatest candidate?"

The show will be taped and edited.

It will take hours of Palin interview time to get 20 minutes of suitable propaganda, but it will be worth it.

Any clue as to whether ABC News has given the McCain campaign editing rights?

(Remember when a suggestion like that would have sounded ridiculous?)

Gibson and ABC are the McCain campaign. So to answer your yes, the editing will be favorable.

Slow Slide Into Oblivion

By Josh Marshall

Well, now I've read them. And it's pretty clear this farce is going to be close to unwatchable. Set aside that this comes just on the heels of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis saying Palin would not sit for any interviews "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference." The tell comes high up in the AP story by David Bauder. The second graf reads ...
Palin will sit down for multiple interviews with Gibson in Alaska over two days, most likely Thursday and Friday, said McCain adviser Mark Salter.
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Editing rights? The McStain team is writing the questions, writing the answers, directing the shoot, angles, lighting, etc.

Gibson is just a puppet. But we already knew that.

PEACE

The truth is that this is a Palin commercial very thinly veiled as an interview.

Once the ad is finished it will be aired everywhere as evidence that Palin will take questions from the "press."

It's perfect. Who would possibly contradict it?

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Propaganda Sarah!

Check out this comment at Gibson's "Ask Sarah" blog:

No question, just a great big THANK YOU to Charlie for showing Governor Palin proper deference. Not every reporter understands his duty, Charlie is a real stand out!

Posted by: Leni Riefenstahl | Sep 9, 2008 2:02:16 PM

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Can you folks please put up a Nowhere Lie counter?

Thanks in advancd!

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Excellent idea, TheraP!

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Counter Please!

for Paline's Lies to Nowhere

When the Obama campaign issues statements about these lies, they should always end with "What else is Governor Palin being untruthful about?"

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I can see the book: Lies Sarah Told Us

Ban that book, or you're fired!

Palin is working off of the old political axiom:
If you repeat something enough times, then it becomes true.

If one is skeptical as to whether or not repetition works, think back to the mantras leading up to the Iraq War.

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So we need to repeat: Sarah... Liar

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I think it's terrific that she keeps floging this line. Just more ammo for the Obama camp. Now it can be said that she continued to lie about the bridge even after it had been repeatedly reported that it was a lie.

counter coulter:

NO. That's what I tried to explain, upstairs.

She keeps repeating it. Obama says, "Um, that sort of kind of isn't entirely accurate, maybe..."

It gets a segment of a segment on a cable news show.

They buy a TV spot, nailing this lie. Whoever sees it, sees it.

Sarah, meanwhile, far from being repentant and correcting her errant ways, triples the amount of times she repeats the same lie. MSM gives every one of those incidents more air time than they gave Obama.

Then she says them some more.

Then the research comes out, and the 'murcan peeple "like" Sarah Palin. Because they believe she's all mavericky and a "reformer".

NO. IT IS *NOT* GOOD THAT SHE KEEPS SAYING IT. Because the lie, repeated shamelessly and often enough, will win.

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I don't subscribe to the Henny-Penney view of political messages. I think it's enough that Palin be called-out on her lie each and every time she does it. To think she or the Repubs are going to stop their Rovian tactics is highly misguided.

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As Obama says --- ENOUGH already.

Most voters haven't a CLUE what Bridge to NoWhere means and most don't care.

Go after taxes or tax cuts or home mortgages or poverty or health care --- this bridge leads to nowhere.

Most people do know what the word "lie" means though.

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Goddamn - where do you get that? How many major news outlets ran this story today?

You couldn't be further off the mark here.

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"Bridge to Nowhere" and "How many houses does McCain own?" are straightforward and easily understood by people.

I say keep at it.

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Word!

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Bzzzt. Wrong. I barely understand my own mortgage, let alone what just happened to Fannie Mae. Gov. Palin took hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to build a bridge to a community of fifty people, then changed her mind and didn't build the bridge, but pocketed the money. *Everybody* understands that.

The Obama campaign just can't lose steam on this. How many ads of Sen. McCain's featured the celebrity theme? It was mentioned or aluded to in every single ad for weeks. Yet we've already lost the ten houses thing. That should be a staple of Letterman / Leno jokes every night by now, but we get bored of repeating our own talking points. Repeat, repeat, repeat like zombies, please!!

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Bzzzt. Wrong. I barely understand my own mortgage, let alone what just happened to Fannie Mae. Gov. Palin took hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to build a bridge to a community of fifty people, then changed her mind and didn't build the bridge, but pocketed the money. *Everybody* understands that.

The Obama campaign just can't lose steam on this. How many ads of Sen. McCain's featured the celebrity theme? It was mentioned or aluded to in every single ad for weeks. Yet we've already lost the ten houses thing. That should be a staple of Letterman / Leno jokes every night by now, but we get bored of repeating our own talking points. Repeat, repeat, repeat like zombies, please!!

Yesterday, CNN's Wolf Blitzer pointed out that Palin recites the same speech on every stump.

Has she stopped following the text with her finger as she reads it?

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I doubt it. I think she's a one trick pony!

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That's exactly what she is.

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She didn't just repeat the lie - she repeated it word for word.

She has those talking points and cannot deviate from them -

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So much for a learning curve!

I'm not sure if she is even real. She is starting to come across as one of those creepy ventriloquists. McCain is always standing by her, maybe that is something he has been practicing, ventriloquism.

One of these days she is going to go Milli Vanilli and the teleprompter or notes aren't going to be there, then what?

Hilarious. I agree completely. I think she's a posthumous creation of Rod Serling.

You have to understand:

The only way journalists like Blitzer can deal with this properly is to show the speech (a la "Daily Show"), spliced-together in context out of its various iteratyions in different places... to be punctuated by a fact-check, stating unequivocally that Sarah Palin is not telling the truth.

Wolf Blitzer and CNN are loathe to call the vice-presidential candidate a liar, in a segment devoted to debunking her lies. That would prompt a call from the McCain campaign, and somebody would find his- or herself in Olbermannland.

That's just how it works. There will be very restrained, if any, "truth squadding of this lady.

Obama himself, personally, needs to say something shocking and provocative simply to get any light shed on this.

It must necessarily involve the phrases:

"SARAH PALIN IS A LIAR!

... and...

"SARAH PALIN IS NOT QUALIFIED TO PRESIDENT!"

Understand: at this point, Obama needs shockers that tell the truth as a piggyback to the shock value.

Barry:

100% right. I've been saying the same thing, maybe not as well as you.

Joe

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Barry Champlain, KO gave Obama every opportunity to do just that in his interview yesterday; he even asked flat out why there was such reluctance to say "LIE" instead of nice softball things. Obama danced away from the question and spoke of policy and issues.

I don't know- maybe he's worried he'll get 'demoted,' too...

She's a major league bullshit artist.

And the campaign is telling her full speed ahead. Cynics.

The most hilarious part is to hear McCain yammering on about how he never takes earmarks, Barack took $1 million a day, and when he gets there, he will expose the big earmark-askers. "You will know their names." We know one already. Psst. She's standing right next to you.

The McCain campaign trying to say Obama took earmarks is a pointless claim, because Obama has never denied that.

During the primaries he released all that information.

Obama's point is that McCain claims to be anti-earmark, but then picks someone is so obviously PRO-earmark.

I don't know why I'm baffled by hypocrisy out of the right though.


They're both throwing so much bullshit around I'm surprised everybody doesn't duck.

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Boy, wouldn't you like the painting of the Bridge to Nowhere?

It will be done with cow dung. Smeared across the canvas... like a bridge.

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Now there's a bridge to see on eBay!

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They've got a strategy going here.

Sarah, the Serial Liar - who Won't Talk to the Press!

They are confident in their press-bullying tactics, and they have good reason to be so. This time, however, let over-confidence, be their downfall.

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Maybe tomorrow she'll tell us she sold it on eBay.

Great line. Kinda taps in to that old line: "if you believe that, there's a bridge to nowhere I'd like to sell ya".

Now that's a pithy response. Tommy Vietor needs to be in charge of the campaign responses.

It would have been better with

"May be tomorrow McCain will tell us that she sold it on e-bay" thereby tying his gullibility to her lies.

she repeats the same speech because that's the extent of her skills as a campaigner. She's less a VP candidate than McCains inhouse emcee.

also why isn't the Obama camp unsing this time to actively brand her image. McCain gave them a blank slate to use.

Bridge to Nowhere = Campaign to Nowhere

Obama's team has got to stop making Palin the center of attention. If Palin is lying, then the story should be, "the McCain campaign is lying about taking earmarks." By everyone focusing on Palin, McCain cops a walk.

Agreed.

But to be fair, the response did say, "she and John McCain continue to repeat the claim in their stump speeches..."

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Actually, by going after Palin, I think it kneecaps McCain.

How about "Palin and the McCain campaign"

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Ok by me!

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I think I see where they're going.

first, get it in everyone's brains that Palin isn't what she's made out to be. Surprising, the media is helping with this.

Once people have got it that Palin's a liar, then they can start asking 'What type of candidate would pick a known liar to be his running mate?'

And re: Koch - Obama should reach out to him and camp him out in Florida for the next month or so. they love him down there, and it couldn't hurt.

Chess vs. checkers, I guess. I hope Obama plays chess.

She's following the neocon formula: A lie is only a lie when you quit telling it. Just keep telling it until people accept it for the truth.

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Right. Cuz if she changes her story, then her religiosity is up for grabs! Hypocrisy is She.

Sarah Palin: A Bush John McCain can hug in public.

We need some Obama people to show up at their rallies and start throwing out boxes of Whoppers malted milk balls every time she brings up Bridge to Nowhere. Now available in the Halloween-size packages.

Great line about Palin from Paul Begala this morning on CNN:

She carried so much pork home she got trichinosis.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/09/ltm.02.html

The mainstream media needs to cut the bullshit and start examining Palin's extreme record. I mean, its amazing who the MSM is glorifying Palin like she is the messiah. There is so much at stake in this election and media is fixated on Palin power.

The MSM is tank with GOP. MSM don't have any accountability. I think, the blogger need to find a way to communicate to ordinary people.

Yeah...i forgot silly me. MSM and GOP are two peas in a pod.

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With all the negative press Palin has received the last couple days, you picked a funny time to say that.

The MSM is tank with GOP. MSM don't have any accountability. I think, the blogger need to find a way to communicate to ordinary people.

The effect of Fox News alone is to increase the R's messaging power many-fold. Consider how much the campaigns pay for 30-second spots. Then consider that Fox broadcasts 24/7, with entirely -- and often quite openly -- pro R coverage (yet portrayed as news). "Priceless."

Obama/DNC would need to have 5 times as much money to begin to counteract Fox alone. That's why treating Fox as in any way legitimate is a mistake for him. Not to say Obama won't win anyway, because he will -- but this is a huge problem.

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Usually, I'd agree with you. But you're not taking into consideration the huge blunder that McCain made when he cut off media access to Palin.

Every network is pissed (except ABC, natch). Hell, Fox is pissed, and that may be the worst development of all for McCain. Fox looks at their own operation more as a sports team than a news organization - for good or for ill, there's a lot of pride and fight in their employees. You can't dis Fox News without people there coming after you. We've seen that time and time again.

McCain took away the means to find out who Palin is. In the absence of that information, the media is filling in the blanks for themselves. One interview with Charlie Gibson will never be enough to spin back the negative stuff that the media is talking about.

And McCain has no one but himself to blame.

During a debate of 2000 Al Gore/G. Bush: It seemed Mr Bush triumphed by parroting over and over (with a sarcastic tone/smile) “Fuzzy math…Fuzzy math”. Sadly a coherent-logical-sensible Al Gore was left appearing weak and flustered…Huffying, sighing, flustered, and put on the defense…Bush prevailed by Igniting emotion with simple one liner zingers.
I hope and pray this tactic (to utter one liner lies over and over) which is being employed by Palin/Mcain will not have a similar effect on the Democratic run…My question to all: How best to counter blatant deception and lies? Is countering with facts/truths adequate? It wasn’t enough for Al Gore!? Logic vs Emotion? I’m not so certain. Sadly, too often emotion reduces logic to an irrelevant heap.

The big difference is that there is big iconic image (non-image) of the Bridge to Nowhere which people (and the media) can wrap their mind around. Then it comes down to the simple was she for it or against it. I think they believe at this point they have no choice but to go full steam ahead with this baving made it the cornerstone of McCain's argument for choosing her, and hoping that it will be like "fuzzy math." It doesn't appear to be so.

"They just keep making stuff up. They think you are stupid."

There are a couple of one-line zingers to counter every Republican lie.

Maybe counter with a direct observation that they're employing a parroting tactic, and pointing out that they're evidently repeating a spoon-fed slogan. Ask another question about the topic at hand and dare them to articulate an answer without resorting to their spoon-fed slogan.

Mockery is a good tactic. (See my comment below)

Also using a word like "shameless" to 'brand' them with. Then get your surrogates to repeat it again and again.

Remember Bosnia snipergate? Baldfaced (barefaced?) lies can indeed come back to haunt you.

"Lies to Nowhere." that works.

McCain / Palin: On the Bridge to Nowhere.

The funny part about these rants against earmarks is that many earmarks are very useful to communities--they help build roads, hospitals, community centers, infrastructure. If there were no earmarks, there'd be a lot less cancer centers, research centers, and roads to drive on.

Michael Moore did a hilarious bit on earmarks in Newt Gingrich's district over a decade ago on TV Nation. He went down there to gather citizens to "fight" against earmarks...turns out the things he was asking them to fight against were traffic lights, improved sewer drainage, etc. The people weren't so keen on fighting them once they realized how they helped the community.

Obviously, the line is still polling positively and people either don't believe she is lying or (more likely) don't care (at least not yet). If my intuition is correct, then we need to ask: why don't people care? At this point I think it's because the lie doesn't count as evidence of anything crucial yet. It's simply a piece of information people don't know what to do with. (My sense is that people right now are simply taking it as evidence that she is a politician.) The Obama ad that went up yesterday about lying has a chance of changing it into evidence that the maverick image is a con job, that both McCain and Palin are in fact normal political hacks. But until something like that happens where the lie becomes integrated into the story about McCain and Palin whether the MSM reports it or not is basically irrelevant.

Newsflash: this shit is sticking.
It's time for Camp Obama to steal a page from Rove. Go after her strenght:
Someone needs to step up and out-folks her!
I say Schweitzer needs to call her out..NOW!

Yeah, maybe Obama needs to shoot somebody in the face while moose hunting.

After a week it doesn't seem to matter. It's time to start getting worried. Many people really like her. They see her as "honest" -- not a politician. She's attractive and feisty.

The McCain camp announced their strategy. They are following their strategy. It's working. The media will be perceived as holding a grudge and not being fair.

It's both sad and scary.

The funny part is that this "feisty" mom is the same mom we all know and can't stand at our kids' athletic events...the busybody-know all who busts the coach's balls if her kid isn't playing enough.

Man, I'd be scared growing up if she'd have been my mom.

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All of the importance placed on Florida and Ohio and all the swing state emphasis should tell us all that it is time to go to the popular vote. The electoral college distorts the entire democratic process. If you're a Democrat in Utah, your vote means nothing and if your GOP in a blue state, the same holds true.

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Her stump speeches are read on from a teleprompter. Thus perhaps the campaign hasn't written anything new for her to read.

She's a robot.
But then, haven't we learned anything in all these years?

Thanks but no thanks for that Bush 3rd term.

Guys, you're missing the point. Let's break it down:

"Thanks, but no thanks."

"Thanks," -- this is clearly an acknowledgment of Palin's initial reaction to the proposed Bridge to Nowhere. As in, "Thanks, this is something I have lobbied for and appreciate."

"but" -- suggests a reconsideration of the initial position, based on shifting circumstances.

"no thanks." -- is the summation of her courageous / politically expedient stand against the project she had supported. As in, "Thanks, but no thanks. That bridge has become politically radioactive. We'll try to find something else to do with the money."

"Thanks, but no thanks," might just be a gimmick so carefully formulated that it can't be a "lie."

Your giving her much credit, but you might be right!
"Fuzzy math" was a similarly loaded line but with a different meaning which implied "What this guy (Al Gore) is saying doesn't make sense to me, don't trust him...Trust me"

This is a revealing moment.
It's as if she doesn't know she's lying.
BUT MCCAIN DOES.

The mocking e-bay reference is a nice touch.

Mocking and scorn is always a good tactic, I think. Once Palin and McCain are *ridiculed* for lying, it will stick.


Anyone remember the Indiana Jones themed Bosnia adventure with Hillary? Just adding the theme music really made it effective.

Obama needs to continue to call them "liars" and say they are "lying", but mocking references are key.

Mockery, mockery, mockery.

Nickname: "The Palindrone"

Everything she says is backwards!

Ha!!

I have not had a chance to read all the comments upthread so maybe someone has already suggested this, but I think turn about is fair play. We should have a few "counters" on the TPM or DNC websites.

Days until Palin's first (next) press conference:

Days McCain and Palin have lied to public--
About the "Bridge to nowhere":
About the non-existent plane sale on Ebay:
(Add you own favorite here)

Days between Palin's last gaffe:
(didn't she get one in before Biden?)

I'd like to know why Hillary Clinton has been AWOL from the news since the Sarah Palin nomination. Surely if anyone in the Democratic Party has the credibility to launch a reasoned attack against Palin's suitability for the job, it is Mrs. Clinton, but I have not read that she has done so. You would think that she would be incensed at the idea of Governor Palin being a reasonable substitute for her as a woman on a major ticket. Is she punishing Barack Obama? Is she looking to her own chances in 2012 if Obama loses? I can't think of any other reasons why she is not out there castigating this woman with all the vehemence she used against Obama during her own campaign.

I think attacking McCain is more fruitful.
I don't care HRC and WJC attack, as long as they stump fo BO in small towns in OH and FL.

Vouching for BO is probably more valuable, since people who voted for them, could be lead by them o BO if they push hard enough.

I'm still not seeing the big effort though.

McFthetruth and Palin the previcator on the bridge to nowhere via mendacity, vacuous rants, deceit and corruption.

Someone needs to ask her if her views on abortion are a lie, too.
It might be her "I am not a crook" moment.

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Pride, arrogance, fibbing, outright lying, misdirection, are all considered sins ib Christian religions.

I suspect Palin is a closet Muslim...

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I suspect Muslims teach telling the truth.

She's a disciple of Christ alright: Judas!

She kept the money. She didn't say no thanks. She kept the money. She supported the bridge and when congress killed it she kept the money.

Repeat repeat repeat.

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Has Palin become the Great White Hope?

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Christian Disciple Palin: Judas?

Give her the bridge - saving 2% on the Alaska State Budget is not real reform.


Dems need to focus on how small thinking going after pork and earmarks, when earmarks are an insignificant part of the big picture.

Small Minded Reform does not equal a game changer.

Pound it into the populous that symbolic reforms are not going to affect their tax bills - only the Democrats are going to bring game-changing reform, not just talk.

She killed the project. My question to you is: what part of that don't you understand?

When will you stop libeling this woman?

Notice what is being said here, and what is not being said:

She killed the project. My question to you is: what part of that don't you understand?

When will you stop libeling this woman?


She didn't kill the project as a whole until the Feds wouldn't pony up the money. She was for it as long as it was paid by US taxpayers. When Alaskans had to pay for it, then she shut it down. The evidence of her comments and actions along the timeline show that had the Feds come through with dough, she would have built the bridge. Her comments indicate that the Fed came to her with the money and she said, "thanks, but no thanks." (Not to mention she kept the money and spent it on other things.)

How's this for a campaign slogan?
Don't let John McCain & Sarah Palin sell you a Bridge to Nowhere!

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The ways these lies are piling up - they ARE the Bridge to Nowhere!

This should be 'meme of the day':

*No exit strategy from Iraq
*No plan for health care
*No idea how to fix the economy

McCain/Palin ARE the "Bridge to Nowhere"!!!!

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/mccainpalin-are-the-bridge-to.php

I think we need to quit blaming Sarah Palin and quit blaming the media. Obama had a golden opportunity today to seize the offensive and he blew it. During the press conference criticizing Bush's weak pullout plan of Iraq and McCain's endorsement of this failure, Obama was lobbed a softball by the press - McCain and Palin say they are the agents of Change, they've co-opted your message, how can you let them get away with that (I'm paraphrasing.)

Obama SHOULD HAVE SAID: Their message is fraudulent, we are the agents of change. How can you vote with Bush 95% of the time and call yourselves change agents? It's a LIE. The media needs to quit being stenographers and do your homework. McCain is a Republican and he supports a Republican president that has lost jobs, hurt the economy, stuck us in a war for 6 years with no end in sight, watched the price of gas double and put thousands of people out of their homes. Of course American needs change, the change from the Republicans to the Obama-Biden presidency.

Instead he said: Well, uh, you know, they were talking a few months ago, uh, about experience, and uh, now that message hasn't resonated and uh, we were always talking about change. So uh, that's a debate we're willing to have. I think the American people, uh, will get it and they uh, know the difference.

WHAT THE FUCK!!?? These weak-kneed responses won't work. This is an electorate with a 2-second attention span. Obama has the microphone. Obama has the stage. Obama has the message. Obama has the right message. If he can't deliver the winning message running against a weak candidate tied to the weakest President in history, he deserves to lose.

FIGHT BACK! The Kerry-Gore prayer that "Americans will get it" and choose the candidate that best represents them rather than the Republicans who represent the 2% wealthiest Americans and big business won't work.

FIGHT BACK or lose. That's the only choice.


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The Republicans appealed to their base with the selection of Palin- she's a guns, God ,government is no-good, ice hockey mom..

The Democrats? Do they ever think of their base? Anti-war, pro labor, pro Medicare-for-all--these folks are left out of the Obama march to the White House. That mistake tripped up Kerry and ruined Gore-they never went to the base and got energized by it. They lost.

Could be Sayonara for the Dems...

The Democrats habitually denigrate their base and 'defer' to Republicans.
At this point, it's incurable. I just want to get Obama into the White House so a third party has time to gin up.
Oh yeah, and so we dodge the Alaskan Armageddon bullet.

The debate. There will be only one.

Why do the corporations want President Palin? They will be screwed if we start another war too.

Someone please explain why the mainstream is pushing this disaster so hard?

We're down now, yes. We know that we are fighting powerful corporate interests that have made BILLIONS, while American families owe about $30,000 of federal debt, from wars and tax cuts for the rich. Can your family afford *ANOTHER* $30,000 worth of failure? Can your country afford years more of neglect?

*WE* cannot afford failure.... and we can't afford to lose hope. THESE are the times that try men's souls. Yes. We are being bombarded with lies. Yes, we're down. But we're underdogs. We stand up for Americans, and don't shrink from a fight.

Whether you supported Barack or Hillary, Joe or John, Bill or Dennis or Chris, we, as Democrats, have always stood up to defend Americans, and when we're knocked down, there's one thing we do.

WE RISE.

So, what are you all waiting for? Rise up! Get on your feet! FIGHT!

Throughout this race, when Democrats seem on their last legs, they stand up! We do *BETTER* as underdogs, because its in our nature to stand up for the unemployed steel worker, or the mother with cancer who worries about her kids!

Our message triumphs when we stand for Americans, throw off doubt and fear, and start saying YES, WE CAN. We've come too far to stop before the mountaintop. YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL!!

Go to http://www.barackobama.com and donate today. And be sure to let all your friends know you're taking a stand, what you're fighting for, and ask them to join us!

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The Republicans appealed to their base with the selection of Palin- she's a guns, God ,government is no-good, ice hockey mom..

The Democrats? Do they ever think of their base? Anti-war, pro labor, pro Medicare-for-all--these folks are left out of the Obama march to the White House. That mistake tripped up Kerry and ruined Gore-they never went to the base and got energized by it. They lost.

Could be Sayonara for the Dems...

We're down now, yes. We know that we are fighting powerful corporate interests that have made BILLIONS, while American families owe about $30,000 of federal debt, from wars and tax cuts for the rich. Can your family afford *ANOTHER* $30,000 worth of failure? Can your country afford years more of neglect?

*WE* cannot afford failure.... and we can't afford to lose hope. THESE are the times that try men's souls. Yes. We are being bombarded with lies. Yes, we're down. But we're underdogs. We stand up for Americans, and don't shrink from a fight.

Whether you supported Barack or Hillary, Joe or John, Bill or Dennis or Chris, we, as Democrats, have always stood up to defend Americans, and when we're knocked down, there's one thing we do.

WE RISE.

So, what are you all waiting for? Rise up! Get on your feet! FIGHT!

Throughout this race, when Democrats seem on their last legs, they stand up! We do *BETTER* as underdogs, because its in our nature to stand up for the unemployed steel worker, or the mother with cancer who worries about her kids!

Our message triumphs when we stand for Americans, throw off doubt and fear, and start saying YES, WE CAN. We've come too far to stop before the mountaintop. YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL!!

Go to http://www.barackobama.com and donate today. And be sure to let all your friends know you're taking a stand, what you're fighting for, and ask them to join us!

I think that the Obama campaign is handling Palin correctly on this one. If they go after her too hard, the media won't pounce on her you know the way they will after her first inevitable gaffe.

Also, I saw this on the blog of Craig’s List founder, Craig Newmark, yesterday and thought it was a great concept and worth sharing:

"Hey, this is a good example of genuine grassroots democracy:

ObamaTravel.org is a platform that connects volunteers who want to travel to a swing state with financial sponsors and swing state host families. It’s sort of a political hybrid of craigslist and Team-in-Training - volunteers post profiles and solicit sponsorship from their family and friends. Sponsors can see their donations in action by following the activities of their volunteers.

... and let's remember that "community organizing" is pure grassroots democracy."

We're down now, yes. We know that we are fighting powerful corporate interests that have made BILLIONS, while American families owe about $30,000 of federal debt, from wars and tax cuts for the rich. Can your family afford *ANOTHER* $30,000 worth of failure? Can your country afford years more of neglect?

*WE* cannot afford failure.... and we can't afford to lose hope. THESE are the times that try men's souls. Yes. We are being bombarded with lies. Yes, we're down. But we're underdogs. We stand up for Americans, and don't shrink from a fight.

Whether you supported Barack or Hillary, Joe or John, Bill or Dennis or Chris, we, as Democrats, have always stood up to defend Americans, and when we're knocked down, there's one thing we do.

WE RISE.

So, what are you all waiting for? Rise up! Get on your feet! FIGHT!

Throughout this race, when Democrats seem on their last legs, they stand up! We do *BETTER* as underdogs, because its in our nature to stand up for the unemployed steel worker, or the mother with cancer who worries about her kids!

Our message triumphs when we stand for Americans, throw off doubt and fear, and start saying YES, WE CAN. We've come too far to stop before the mountaintop. YES WE CAN and YES WE WILL!!

Go to http://www.barackobama.com and donate today. And be sure to let all your friends know you're taking a stand, what you're fighting for, and ask them to join us!

The debate. There will be only one.

Why do the corporations want President Palin? They will be screwed if we start another war too.

Someone please explain why the mainstream is pushing this disaster so hard?

The debate. There will be only one.

Why do the corporations want President Palin? They will be screwed if we start another war too.

Someone please explain why the mainstream is pushing this disaster so hard?

The debate. There will be only one.

Why do the corporations want President Palin? They will be screwed if we start another war too.

Someone please explain why the mainstream is pushing this disaster so hard?

The debate. There will be only one.

Why do the corporations want President Palin? They will be screwed if we start another war too.

Someone please explain why the mainstream is pushing this disaster so hard?

I think that the Obama campaign is handling Palin correctly on this one. If they go after her too hard, the media won't pounce on her you know the way they will after her first inevitable gaffe.

Also, I saw this on the blog of Craig’s List founder, Craig Newmark, yesterday and thought it was a great concept and worth sharing:

"Hey, this is a good example of genuine grassroots democracy:

ObamaTravel.org is a platform that connects volunteers who want to travel to a swing state with financial sponsors and swing state host families. It’s sort of a political hybrid of craigslist and Team-in-Training - volunteers post profiles and solicit sponsorship from their family and friends. Sponsors can see their donations in action by following the activities of their volunteers.

... and let's remember that "community organizing" is pure grassroots democracy."

I think that the Obama campaign is handling Palin correctly on this one. If they go after her too hard, the media won't pounce on her you know the way they will after her first inevitable gaffe.

Also, I saw this on the blog of Craig’s List founder, Craig Newmark, yesterday and thought it was a great concept and worth sharing:

"Hey, this is a good example of genuine grassroots democracy:

ObamaTravel.org is a platform that connects volunteers who want to travel to a swing state with financial sponsors and swing state host families. It’s sort of a political hybrid of craigslist and Team-in-Training - volunteers post profiles and solicit sponsorship from their family and friends. Sponsors can see their donations in action by following the activities of their volunteers.

... and let's remember that "community organizing" is pure grassroots democracy."

I think that the Obama campaign is handling Palin correctly on this one. If they go after her too hard, the media won't pounce on her you know the way they will after her first inevitable gaffe.

Also, I saw this on the blog of Craig’s List founder, Craig Newmark, yesterday and thought it was a great concept and worth sharing:

"Hey, this is a good example of genuine grassroots democracy:

ObamaTravel.org is a platform that connects volunteers who want to travel to a swing state with financial sponsors and swing state host families. It’s sort of a political hybrid of craigslist and Team-in-Training - volunteers post profiles and solicit sponsorship from their family and friends. Sponsors can see their donations in action by following the activities of their volunteers.

... and let's remember that "community organizing" is pure grassroots democracy."

So, uh, anybody seen John McCain lately? Sure seems like the Obama campaign has lost its focus.

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From the Wall Street Journal:

Allies of Republican presidential nominee John McCain like to point out that his running mate is the governor of the largest state in the union. But at times, Alaska seems more like a small town, run by folks with overlapping professional, political and personal ties that can be difficult to untangle.

Now that's an understatement!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122092043531812813.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_topbox

More from WSJ:

At a rally today, Sen. McCain again asserted that Sen. Obama has requested nearly a billion in earmarks. In fact, the Illinois senator requested $311 million last year, according to the Associated Press, and none this year. In comparison, Gov. Palin has requested $750 million in her two years as governor -- which the AP says is the largest per-capita request in the nation.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

More from WSJ:

At a rally today, Sen. McCain again asserted that Sen. Obama has requested nearly a billion in earmarks. In fact, the Illinois senator requested $311 million last year, according to the Associated Press, and none this year. In comparison, Gov. Palin has requested $750 million in her two years as governor -- which the AP says is the largest per-capita request in the nation.

More from WSJ:

At a rally today, Sen. McCain again asserted that Sen. Obama has requested nearly a billion in earmarks. In fact, the Illinois senator requested $311 million last year, according to the Associated Press, and none this year. In comparison, Gov. Palin has requested $750 million in her two years as governor -- which the AP says is the largest per-capita request in the nation.

More from WSJ:

At a rally today, Sen. McCain again asserted that Sen. Obama has requested nearly a billion in earmarks. In fact, the Illinois senator requested $311 million last year, according to the Associated Press, and none this year. In comparison, Gov. Palin has requested $750 million in her two years as governor -- which the AP says is the largest per-capita request in the nation.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

These people know no shame. It's unbelievable. Hit them hard. Everyday until election night. We need to get in the dirt. NOW.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

Dead Cat Bounce for McCain... pass it on!

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

More from WSJ:

At a rally today, Sen. McCain again asserted that Sen. Obama has requested nearly a billion in earmarks. In fact, the Illinois senator requested $311 million last year, according to the Associated Press, and none this year. In comparison, Gov. Palin has requested $750 million in her two years as governor -- which the AP says is the largest per-capita request in the nation.

I was actually considering voting for Nader but now that this Sarah Palin and the christian right getting excited for her...I'm am voting for Obama. As a woman, I am insulted about McCain's effort to frame any opposing to Palin as sexist. To try and push a narrative over real political and economic change is not putting country first. McCain will do anything to win election. He is not right for this country. We need real progress. Not someone who goes about saying he's a reformer when he hasn't done nothing for any of us for 26 years. McCain voted against the new GI Bill and funding for better equipment for the troops in Iraq then leans on his prisoner of war status. That clearly show us the he has no respect for our troops who are fighting a war he wants to continue AND not help them when they come home. That is the ultimate slap in the face if you ask me. Sarah isn't any better. They both are deceitful people. If they are lying now...guess what? They'll be lying just like Bush/Cheney has for the past 8 years! We clearly cannot afford it as a country.

Memo to the oh-so-smart media: Every Hillary supporter I know, whether white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc., is now firmly in the McCain-Palin camp (no matter how much dirt they “dig up” on her). Many journalists are, to use the cliché, out of touch with ordinary women, and women who do not march in lockstep with their party. They also think that most voters think EXACTLY like they do (wrong!). They keep saying we won't switch allegiances to McCain-Palin because of abortion rights and other issues. But we are not all “issue voters.” We also care about experience, character, and leadership. McCain-Palin beats Obama on all these points.

The female factor will be hard to measure, because some women will be afraid to say it out loud (that they are pro-McCain) to the media, and others won’t admit it to their liberal, Obama-loving friends. But once they step into that voting booth, all bets will be off and they will punch McCain-Palin.
As a liberal Democrat, I’d just like to say that the Dems brought this on themselves. They made a mockery of the primaries, and they nominated the wrong candidate. Obama is neither qualified nor electable. Hillary should be the nominee, or at least on the ticket. As prez, Hillary could win this election in a walk. As veep, Hillary would have Obama leading the polls big-time by now. I wonder why it is that Obama, despite the disastrous eight years of Dubya, has not been able to have a commanding lead in the polls? With the state of the economy and the deplorable war in Iraq, Obama should be pummeling the GOP. Could it be that he is in fact THE WRONG CHOICE?
To those (especially female) pundits who say it’s “offensive” to think that Palin might garner the Hillary vote: I think it’s “offensive” that you are so sequestered in your elite ivory tower that you make stupid assumptions about women you don’t have a clue about!
To those who say we are idiots, morons, stupid or ignorant (pick your insult) for choosing to vote McCain-Palin: Keep it up. The more you come off as smug and elitist, the more votes McCain will get. Because nothing motivates the Republicans more than pompous liberals.
Come this November, for me and many others, it’s country first, party second.
PS: I think it speaks volumes about the mood of women voters in this country that HRC herself has refused to bash Palin.
MCCAIN-PALIN IN 2008!

Memo to the oh-so-smart media: Every Hillary supporter I know, whether white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc., is now firmly in the McCain-Palin camp (no matter how much dirt they “dig up” on her). Many journalists are, to use the cliché, out of touch with ordinary women, and women who do not march in lockstep with their party. They also think that most voters think EXACTLY like they do (wrong!). They keep saying we won't switch allegiances to McCain-Palin because of abortion rights and other issues. But we are not all “issue voters.” We also care about experience, character, and leadership. McCain-Palin beats Obama on all these points.

The female factor will be hard to measure, because some women will be afraid to say it out loud (that they are pro-McCain) to the media, and others won’t admit it to their liberal, Obama-loving friends. But once they step into that voting booth, all bets will be off and they will punch McCain-Palin.
As a liberal Democrat, I’d just like to say that the Dems brought this on themselves. They made a mockery of the primaries, and they nominated the wrong candidate. Obama is neither qualified nor electable. Hillary should be the nominee, or at least on the ticket. As prez, Hillary could win this election in a walk. As veep, Hillary would have Obama leading the polls big-time by now. I wonder why it is that Obama, despite the disastrous eight years of Dubya, has not been able to have a commanding lead in the polls? With the state of the economy and the deplorable war in Iraq, Obama should be pummeling the GOP. Could it be that he is in fact THE WRONG CHOICE?
To those (especially female) pundits who say it’s “offensive” to think that Palin might garner the Hillary vote: I think it’s “offensive” that you are so sequestered in your elite ivory tower that you make stupid assumptions about women you don’t have a clue about!
To those who say we are idiots, morons, stupid or ignorant (pick your insult) for choosing to vote McCain-Palin: Keep it up. The more you come off as smug and elitist, the more votes McCain will get. Because nothing motivates the Republicans more than pompous liberals.
Come this November, for me and many others, it’s country first, party second.
PS: I think it speaks volumes about the mood of women voters in this country that HRC herself has refused to bash Palin.
MCCAIN-PALIN IN 2008!

These people know no shame. It's unbelievable. Hit them hard. Everyday until election night. We need to get in the dirt. NOW.

(Hope this appears in the right place)

I don't get this. I saw an Obama ad yesterday both here and at DKos directly accusing McCain and Palin of lying. In fact, you can still see the link on the first page here.

Memo to the oh-so-smart media: Every Hillary supporter I know, whether white, black, Asian, Hispanic, etc., is now firmly in the McCain-Palin camp (no matter how much dirt they “dig up” on her). Many journalists are, to use the cliché, out of touch with ordinary women, and women who do not march in lockstep with their party. They also think that most voters think EXACTLY like they do (wrong!). They keep saying we won't switch allegiances to McCain-Palin because of abortion rights and other issues. But we are not all “issue voters.” We also care about experience, character, and leadership. McCain-Palin beats Obama on all these points.

The female factor will be hard to measure, because some women will be afraid to say it out loud (that they are pro-McCain) to the media, and others won’t admit it to their liberal, Obama-loving friends. But once they step into that voting booth, all bets will be off and they will punch McCain-Palin.
As a liberal Democrat, I’d just like to say that the Dems brought this on themselves. They made a mockery of the primaries, and they nominated the wrong candidate. Obama is neither qualified nor electable. Hillary should be the nominee, or at least on the ticket. As prez, Hillary could win this election in a walk. As veep, Hillary would have Obama leading the polls big-time by now. I wonder why it is that Obama, despite the disastrous eight years of Dubya, has not been able to have a commanding lead in the polls? With the state of the economy and the deplorable war in Iraq, Obama should be pummeling the GOP. Could it be that he is in fact THE WRONG CHOICE?
To those (especially female) pundits who say it’s “offensive” to think that Palin might garner the Hillary vote: I think it’s “offensive” that you are so sequestered in your elite ivory tower that you make stupid assumptions about women you don’t have a clue about!
To those who say we are idiots, morons, stupid or ignorant (pick your insult) for choosing to vote McCain-Palin: Keep it up. The more you come off as smug and elitist, the more votes McCain will get. Because nothing motivates the Republicans more than pompous liberals.
Come this November, for me and many others, it’s country first, party second.
PS: I think it speaks volumes about the mood of women voters in this country that HRC herself has refused to bash Palin.
MCCAIN-PALIN IN 2008!

That dog won't hunt in Florida, nor is it working in the Motherland of Michigan.

I seriously doubt it will work in Ohio because there have been, since the GOP convention started, NO solutions to any problems.

The election will won on the ground where NOTHING McCain has done has eroded Obama's real power base.

And that would be us, the People.

Palin is about a cynical as it gets, and her views no longer work in 2008.

i am feeling increasingly uneasy about this election ...joe biden needs to creatively drop out because of whatever... hillary needs to step in? I do not see getting the upper hand again...
thoughts?

Nothing McCain has done since the primaries have changed the pathway Obama will take to victory.

Nothing McCain has said or done has erased Obama's money, ground, org, and voter registration efforts. McCain cannot now clap his hands together and replicate this machinery. There is simply no time left.

The election is going to be won on the ground where it started, not in the national polls, and certainly not in Alaska.

You will want Biden when it comes time to govern.

The Florida polling is EXCEEDINGLY perilous for McCain.

The media needs to step it up. After all, they are Americans, too. They aren't immune to economic downfall.

Or 'Do you enjoy being lied to?'

i think that would hit home hard. No one enjoys being taken for a fool. In my mind it's one thing if a lie is out there, but another thing altogether if that lie is at my direct expense. Obama not only has to expose them, but highlight they are taking the public for fools.

Seriously, it's time for the Obama campaign to run A SERIES OF ADS targeting the Palin problem.

One could be on the amounts of earmarks that she obtained when she was a mayor and governor, playing up how ridiculous they were/are by contrasting them to earmarks other places obtained, including Illinois and a city and a town.

Another could be on both McCain's and Palin's lies (about the earmarks for the bridge saga, about her responsibilities with the Alaskan national guard, about the jet that was sold for a loss and was never sold on eBay, etc. I am sure there are more.) and link them to Bush and Cheney's lies about the Iraq War so as to link these politicians together (something like "McCain and Palin, the next Bush and Cheney) and to play up the disastrous consequences of dishonest leadership.

A third could be on her criticizing Hillary Clinton for whining and yet trying to avoid talking to the press --- this hopefully will puncture her heroine, straight talker image among white woman voters as well as hurt her appeal among disgruntled Hillary supporters.

I don't know how much money the Obama campaign can afford to spend but they have to play smart --- come up with ads that will be instant hits so the networks can help play the ads over and over again.

Seriously, it's time for the Obama campaign to run A SERIES OF ADS targeting the Palin problem.

One could be on the amounts of earmarks that she obtained when she was a mayor and governor, playing up how ridiculous they were/are by contrasting them to earmarks other places obtained, including Illinois and a city and a town.

Another could be on both McCain's and Palin's lies (about the earmarks for the bridge saga, about her responsibilities with the Alaskan national guard, about the jet that was sold for a loss and was never sold on eBay, etc. I am sure there are more.) and link them to Bush and Cheney's lies about the Iraq War so as to link these politicians together (something like "McCain and Palin, the next Bush and Cheney) and to play up the disastrous consequences of dishonest leadership.

A third could be on her criticizing Hillary Clinton for whining and yet trying to avoid talking to the press --- this hopefully will puncture her heroine, straight talker image among white woman voters as well as hurt her appeal among disgruntled Hillary supporters.

I don't know how much money the Obama campaign can afford to spend but they have to play smart --- come up with ads that will be instant hits so the networks can help play the ads over and over again.

So you think Kerry should have sat back and taken it? Not sure what your response means. You have to fight back especially when the Republican attack machine takes control of the narrative.

Joe

The Left not only needs to engage the culture war head on rather than denying it exists if they want to defuse the Palin-effect but also needs to present an alternative type of populism.
Why doesn't the Obama campaign focus on how investing in green technologies and green jobs can make our country a nation of PRODUCERS again, like in the time of the greatest generation. Why doesn't Obama use a type of nationalist-populist rhetoric that is based on domestic production ("made in America") and call out McCain for being a PRO-EXPORTATION politician? Republican's do not only oppose greater energy independence but also greater industrial independence. America has a long populist history based around the producer ethic, i.e. the dignity in production and the producer classes, speak to it or let this b.s. culture war populism of the Right win the day AGAIN!

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Palin lies again and the media in Cincinnati will eat it up.On CHANNEL 5`s(NBC)their major story was about Palin and McNumb talking it up that many Republican Presidents stayed at The Golden Lamb in the same year they were elected.They also covered Obama.They showed an unflattering picture of Michelle who will be in Cinti this week.the channel 12 anchor woman has a bouffant hair-do like Palin`s.YUK.

$3269 is the magic number... google it and see how it grows...

According to the Alaska Daily News , next week every Alaskan gets $3269 in their bank account from the State of Alaska.

The resulting shopping spree will be on display in front of all the press... and to think, Alaska gets way more than its fair share of federal dollars. Oink Oink Oink. Think any of us in the lower 48 are going to be pissed off when this hits. This is when McCain campaign will jump the pig like fonz jumped the shark.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/516967.html

$3269 is the magic number... google it and see how it grows...

According to the Alaska Daily News , next week every Alaskan gets $3269 in their bank account from the State of Alaska.

The resulting shopping spree will be on display in front of all the press... and to think, Alaska gets way more than its fair share of federal dollars. Oink Oink Oink. Think any of us in the lower 48 are going to be pissed off when this hits. This is when McCain campaign will jump the pig like fonz jumped the shark.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/516967.html

$3269 is the magic number... google it and see how it grows...

According to the Alaska Daily News , next week every Alaskan gets $3269 in their bank account from the State of Alaska.

The resulting shopping spree will be on display in front of all the press... and to think, Alaska gets way more than its fair share of federal dollars. Oink Oink Oink. Think any of us in the lower 48 are going to be pissed off when this hits. This is when McCain campaign will jump the pig like fonz jumped the shark.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/516967.html

If America falls for this bologna...the Extreme right could possibly ever chant the battlecry Country first ever again!

If America falls for this bologna...the Extreme right could never possibly ever chant the battlecry Country first ever again!

If America falls for this bologna...the Extreme right could never possibly ever chant the battlecry Country first ever again!

If America falls for this bologna...the Extreme right could never chant the battlecry Country first ever again!

When will someone be bold enough to cal Srah Palin AN OUTRIGHT LIAR A FRAUD, and John Maccain, a crook, a liar and a dishonourable man.

Secondly, Is it somehow acceptable for Republicans to play dirty and lie?

From a concerned UK citizen.

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