Obama Regaining Ground In National Tracking Polls
Here's a wrap-up of the four major national tracking polls for today, with all four of them showing either movement away from John McCain or toward Barack Obama since yesterday:
Gallup: McCain 47%, Obama 46%, with a ±2% margin of error. Yesterday, McCain was up 47%-45%.
Rasmussen: McCain 48%, Obama 47%, with a ±2% margin of error. yesterday, McCain was up 49%-47%.
Research 2000: Obama 48%, McCain 44%, with a ±3% margin of error. Yesterday, Obama was up 48%-45%
Hotline/Diageo: Obama 46%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.3% margin of error. Yesterday, Obama was up 44%-43%.
Adding these polls together and weighting them for larger sample sizes, the race is essentially a tie at Obama's 46.6% to McCain's 46.4% -- an improvement from yesterday, when the same math put McCain up by about a full percentage point.















Pretty good for Obama considering he was 2.7 behind in RCP Average last week.
September 16, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's amazing what a bit of substance can do. On another note, I have the feeling Obama needs to come up with a punchy answer to what he'll do about the economy. He's not a soundbite guy, for the most part. But he needs a phrase or slogan to breakdown his message to an edible bite.
Pufferfish
September 16, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree re: soundbites (as much as I have to hold my nose to say it...)
September 16, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
LBJ,
how about this:
"McCain/Palin...leading us into the 18th Century."
September 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about "McCain/Palin...Building a bridge to the 18th century".
September 16, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. The big dog is right about this. When you say "change," I ought to immediately say "because we need a middle class tax cut."
Change?
= tax cut.
Change?
= tax cut.
September 16, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too, a three point elevator pitch that is specific enough to sound like he knows what he's doing and general enough to leave him flexibility.
I think a lot of this has to do with the dishonorable meme sticking, but what do I know, the Obama campaign isnt' pushing it anymore, so they must not think it was working...
September 16, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about:
"Let's fix all the suff the Republicans broke"?
September 16, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
...make that stuff
September 16, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you think the fix is soudbiteable. Boy are you in for a surprise.
How about, we need to put some competent people back in charge.
September 16, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
it takes 11 days for a bounce from the convention to go away based on the research i did on my own.
and tomorow will be day 11 for the mccain bounce.
so whatever the tracking polls say starting tomorow will be where this race really is.
I expect gallup and rasmussen to show a tie to obama up 2.
that is where the race is right now.. a very thin Obama lead.
September 16, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you factor in the 3-day rolling average that Gallup uses? That said, this race is still close based on the currently available metrics we have to determine a likely/registered voter.
September 16, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
See fivethirtyeight. The bounce can actually take up to a month to fade.
September 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
And McCain is running on empty. Palin has brought her surge, the bounce has happened, people are realizing who these people are, and the polls are reflecting that.
McCain has lost his integrity, Palin still can't give interviews, what upshot do they have? Gaffe's by Obama/Biden are the only things they have unless somehow McCain goes Rambo and brings Bin Laden in by the hair to one of his debates.
The storm has passed. The outlook is sunny skies from here till November.
September 16, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
BallnChain:
What did you think of Chuck Todd's analysis of Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan being toss-ups on MSNBC last night? Am I the only one alarmed about this?
September 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ohio definitely, and maybe Michigan. But Wisconsin? No, the badgers will go for Obama.
September 16, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not worried anymore. Obama will not lose WI, MI or OH. The race has turned and Obama is gonna keep hammering McCain on the economy and his dishonest, dishonorable campaign. At the end of this campaign, people will think, "...I remember when John McCain was a man of honor, but then he sold his soul to Karl Rove in pursuit of the presidency."
Also keep in mind that we have registered over 300,000 new voters in OH that aren't getting polled.
September 16, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
We've registered close to 12,000,000 new Democratic voters and I doubt any of them have been polled.
Have any of y'all ever been polled? I haven't.
September 16, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
They poll 1000 people at a time. There are over 200 million adults in this country. We do polls so we dont have to rely on personal anecdote (have you ever been polled?).
Please remove the scales from your eyes. You will clear vision for the homestretch.
September 16, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't see it, you got a link?
September 16, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Trying to find it on Google News, not there. It was a segment on Hardball last night, Chuck Todd's electoral analysis with Chris Matthews. Todd has Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin all a toss-up. Todd believes it's racial because all 3 show Democratic gains in state, local, congress and Senate seats.
September 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I live in Wisconsin, and I believe WI went for Kerry by less than a half percent in 2004. It's not a complete lock, but Milwaukee and Madison are big Dem bases.
With the additional voter registration and ground game, I believe WI will go for Obama by better than Kerry's margin.
I live in Brown County (a lot of conservatives here) and plan to start working the phones next Monday for the Obama campaign. I signed up this week and I've decided to give money AND time after Palin's garbage at the RNC. Enough!
September 16, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love your avatar.
I was surprised to see in Europe how ubiquitous images of Che are. They are graffiti'd all over Italy and tee shirts with his image on them are wildly popular everywhere. Every tee shirt stand in Italy advertised with a teeshirt with Che on it.
September 16, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not talking about Traitor Joe, I'm talking Che.
and my comment got displaced.
September 16, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena:
What do you have against me?! I'm an honest, thoughtful wrter. I originally created the avatar as a faux tribute but very few people got the sarcasm.
Joe
September 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Writer
September 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not your writing, it's that your avatar makes people want to punch their monitor.
September 16, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have nothing against you, I was just telling the Che avatar that I loved it -
And it got posted out of order and I wanted Che to know I was talking about him.
aight? :)
September 16, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
...with all four of them showing either movement away from John McCain or toward Barack Obama since yesterday
That's change you can believe in, my friends!
September 16, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Danny:
So true. Maybe "We don't need 4 more years like the last 8 years or we'll need 100 years to dig us out of this mess."
September 16, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't wait for those weekend numbers to drop out.
September 16, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
And for sure, Carly Fieroni didnt help her candidate today.
September 16, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
What, exactly, was she thinking? Other than propping up her ginormous ego. Hmmm ... HP/Compaq? Anyone remember that debacle?
Yep, her brainchild.
Perhaps she's not so hot at running Fortune 500 companies, either. Kinda like Palin calling Obama out for experience.
"Hello, Kettle? This is Pot. You're black."
September 16, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
These make me feel better but Obama is going to have to be up by considerably more in November to make up for the Bradley effect and for the Repugs who are going to try and steal it.
September 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember that these are rolling polls. In order to account for the move away from the big McCain lead, that means that yesterday's polls showed much bigger Obama leads than this. Expect Obama's numbers to go substantially higher in the coming days.
September 16, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sniff some mo coming down the pike and with the economy front and center Obama needs to keep it there. Mccain's campaign will get increasingly desperate to distract count on it. Obama needs to be ready to see Wright in a nasty ad very soon if the economy continues to dominate and deal with it fast with a similiar ad to the one on honor yesterday. Given the mess at AIG and others teetering on the brink its hard to see how it wont. The other huge factor in this is that it makes the campaign firmly about Mccain v Obama and lipstick has receded and will continue to do so should the current climate continue.
September 16, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cant wait to see that triple P poll from Va later today
September 16, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Breaking on CNN: 5 Alaska legislators has sued to block Gov Plain's investigation into Troopergate.
September 16, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
They don't want that October surprise.
September 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
They want to keep their jobs after seeing the polls. When Palin heads back to Alaska heads will roll, they realize that and doing what it takes to stay on the job.
September 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
do you have a link to this story?
September 16, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's AP.
It's also on the front page.
September 16, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
So now Alaskans want Palin to win so they can get rid of her. Can you imagine how much more cranky, vindictive and spiteful she will be if she loses?
September 16, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Palin has nothing to hide...
Repeat as necessary.
September 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
the lilt back toward Barack Obama is a reflection our economy and disastrous news thats accompanied the economy. Today, in Colorado Obama rip McCain a new ass' if he continues to talk assertive and forceful on the economy he will not only win the election, but he'll win in a landslide.
September 16, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
But aren't the polls wrong?
September 16, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we all needed a bit of good news after a jittery couple of weeks. But this doesn't mean much either.
I'm hoping economy stays at the front and the center, it's not palin, mccain, or even Obama- economy, economy and economy will take us home.
September 16, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The idea of the Bradley effect is thrown around a lot, but as far as I'm aware, no one has actually shown that it has happened in this campaign.
That said, a cushion would be nice to prevent any Florida2000-like Rethuglican dirty tricks. And McCain has definitely shown he'll stoop to anything.
Obama supporters need to put boots on the ground. Register voters before the deadline, and get out the vote!
September 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
There was something in the last issue of the New York Review of Books that touched on the Bradley Effect and seemed to give credence to it to some extent. Hope it doesn't happen.
September 16, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and I promise you, WE WILL NEVER PUT AMERICA IN THIS POSITION AGAIN.
Blogger on Kos caught this at end of Mccain' yawner today...can Obama use it to frame the current issue as Mccain's doing? In essence Mccain is asking for a mulligan...
September 16, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jessran:
Which position? The war? National debt? The economy? The financial services and banking meltdown? Isn't that what John McCain said the last time he enabled deregulation which bankrupted the financial system with his support of Charles Keating and Lincoln Savings & Loan?
September 16, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
bent over in the "ready" position?
September 16, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please make a big splash video post of Obama's Economy speech from this morning in Golden, CO. It was nothing short of amazing in its judicious mix of serious policy prescription, quick history of how we got here, McCain's complicity in it and his paralysis after the fact.
It was political theater for intelligent people...
September 16, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I expect we'll all receive an email from the Obama campaign that leads us right to the vid and a chance to give.
September 16, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
:-) True enough. HOWEVER, I want the blogosphere to put it front and center, so that it receives wider circulation. (I saw it live!)
September 16, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a link to the video of Carly saying Gpv Plain, BO, Biden and McCain cant run a company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Jr4YfSemk
September 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably not again in your lifetime, if you're lucky.
But believe me, American will be in this position again and much worse.
It's an historical loop - we go back and forth, right and left, up and down. All nations do.
September 16, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, I think you are right, but I take some comfort (or hope) in MLK's quote about the 'arc of the moral universe.' It takes a long time but bends toward justice. I sure hope so. I envision 'progress' as a wave form or staircase with dips that has ups and downs but progresses slowly upward.
September 16, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe the economy
September 16, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the thing about the Bradley effect. Nate at 538 suggested that the choice of Palin brought a lot of embarrassed Republicans out of the woodwork, folks who wouldn't otherwise tell pollsters who they were really voting for. My theory is these might be the same people who make up the Bradley effect and what we're seeing now is the race as it actually is, with the two candidates essentially tied.
September 16, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be correct. That fits.
September 16, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The McCain camp wheels are falling off. People are all over the place with the message, and sure Obama is getting in great shots, but the McCain Camp is really off their meds this week. I do think btw that the effect of Karl Rove telling a small bit of truth is having right now has been overestimated. They never, ever do that. They have been robotic is their goal of staying on message and not being self critical. Now all of the sudden the "Architect" slips up? There is a piece of the puzzle missing. Is it possible that the choice of Palin was indeed McCain's middle finger to Rove? by extension then, is it also not possible that McCain is being sacrificed by his own party in response? While the numbers on the national polls are all over the place, the internals and polls on specific issues all but guarantee that the Repubs are going to get creamed. That being said, as the days pass and things start to look worse, how long are these gamblers going to back this lame horse? Actually, it might be advantagous for them to torpedo McCain for many reasons:
1) blame the problems bush and the repub congress created on a democratic administration. remember IOKIYAR
2) praise McCain for bravely falling before Obama's "scurillous" attacks
3) Have Mittens run as the great uniter of the party, and try to use his mormonism to paint the GOP as a diverse party.
It is still a long time untill the election, but it is clear that the McCain camp is having technical difficulties right now.
September 16, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good analysis.
September 16, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree.
September 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never had heard of Research 2000 Polls.
I looked them up and found out they are run by the Daily Kos. I would think that would disqualify them from being taken seriously.
September 16, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wrong yet again, chief. R2K is not "run" by the Kos; the site hired it as the pollster. All internals are right there for everyone to see. But why did I just waste keystrokes on you?
September 16, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
*Troll Jizz*
September 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Research 2000 is widely respected. Look harder next time. And just because Kos sponsors is doesn't disqualify it, kind of like how you can't discount a poll just because it was paid for by Fox, either.
September 16, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe anything you write if you don't use the term 'Oilbama'. That brings your troll cred....it's your 'branding'....you gotta stick to it!
September 16, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
If being done for Kos "disqualifies" them, then the Republican firm of Rasmussen is also "disqualified," dumbass. Ditto Fox/Opinion Dynamics, Strategic Vision and Insider Advantage.
Kos/Res2k, unlike all the others, are running a completely transparent poll. No secret formulas or behind the curtain tinkering and he shows the results from each day's polling. If they are making mistakes in their assumptions, their right out there for everyone else to see.
September 16, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scared much?
Go rub your Palin bobblehead for luck. It worked for a week or two, didn't it? Right before the lead paint wore off ...
September 16, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any more than the CLEARLY republican biased rassmussen and gallup polling? eeegads fool!
September 16, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Additionally the oxygen thieves have decided to go after Biden's toaster comment. Seriously these wankers are fast becomign the gang that couldnt shoot straight. Toasters? The economy is in a nosedive and they are going to go after toasters! I know some will say low info voters will squeal in outrage over it but I know different. This is a perfect chance on a freaking tee for Obama to go right back to dishonest, smears and lack of honor. Whack, whack back to the economy. Oxygen thieves are whacking a hornet's nest with a stick when they try to go after Biden the man loves a good fight and he can make burn these morons in a sweet toaster trap...lol f me TOASTERS!!!! That doesnt stink of desperation it is desperation.
September 16, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
HusseinTenaX says "Probably not again in your lifetime, if you're lucky. But believe me, American will be in this position again and much worse. It's an historical loop - we go back and forth, right and left, up and down. All nations do."
She should have added unless Oilbama, who voted for the Bush Cheney Energy Bill, is elected.
But I do have to give her congrats on being able to string together so many words without using vulgarities, it must have been very difficult for her.
September 16, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dem B - don't talk to me. You're a thread-spamming troll.
September 16, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, you are now free to use vulgarities.
September 16, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
You couldn't carry her keyboard, you punk.
With your reply, you reveal yourself as not merely a jerk, but ahistorical to the point of extreme ignorance.
September 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oilbama, who voted with Bush and Cheney for their Big Oil Givaway Energy Bill, is faking outrage over all the bankruptcies and bailouts, he doesn’t mention that a number of his top ten contributors are from Wall Street, including Goldman Sacs, Lehman and the JP Morgan Chase. He also fails to mention that one of the first subprime lenders to stick it to borrowers and have her bank seized is a woman named Penny Pritzker, who just happens to be Oilbama's campaign Finance Chair (as confirmed on April 3, 2008) and a potential Secretary of the Treasury in an Oilbama administration.
September 16, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The better the news for Obama, the more you troll.
September 16, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
DumBillC, DumBillC,
Sails the seas of negativity.
DumBillC, DumBillC,
You want us to be worried
But we're laughing at ye!
ps - you suck bilge
September 16, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
And assuming every twisted, dumbass thing you've ever said about him was true, McCain would be better how, exactly?
September 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
0 is a number.
Unless, of course, you have some actual data.
September 16, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain got a convention/Palin bounce. Now the race is gradually going back to an Obama 1-3 point advantage. Basically, both candidates riled up their base and that skewered the polling.
We now have a tighter race were previous "undecideds" who were always going to vote the same way they always vote have committed. I've never bought into the notion that up to 15% of the electorate is "undecided" even after the primaries. What's left is probably no more than the 3-5 percent of the electorate that can truly swing and waits til after the debates.
September 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can anyone tell me why Obama's ads aren't hammering McCain for
1) Trying to privatize Social Security again? You could put together a very hard attack pointing out that McCain's plan will destroy Social Security by cutting off the funds reserved for paying current and future beneficiaries.
2) As Bob Herbert pointed out in today's NYTimes, McCain is also trying to destroy the only part of today's anemic health insurance system that works -- group health insurance, in favor of moving everyone to individual plans. This is just plain stupid -- individual plans avoid spreading risk among a large group, with the result that your individual policy immediately becomes unaffordable if you ever need to use it.
3) If Obama really wanted to take a risk, he could point out that Palin wants to make it illegal for someone who's been raped to use the morning after pill. Considering the heat generated by any mention of abortion, however, that's perhaps best left to the Planned Parenthood Action Committee.
September 16, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's got several hard hitting ads out right now - equal pay, lobbyists, deception. Give him time.
September 16, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Health Care he wants to hold for October has been my guess.
September 16, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can't run fifty messages at the same time. Right now, their message is "liar" and "out of touch economic dunce." I think they need to stay there. Plenty of time to hammer him on his health care tax increase.
September 16, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
agreed. He needs to keep on target.
September 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
To quote James Carville: "It's the economy, stupid." McCain has absolutely no grasp of economics; his trophy running mate has even less. Obama needs to talk up his own economic plans, and emphasize that he understands what people are going through, whereas McCain can't even remember how many million-dollar mansions he owns.
September 16, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice, but still pretty close. It is hard to understand that after these eight years, this is still a hard fight. Makes me wonder if we all are from the same planet.
September 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I personally think people are keeping their powder dry until the debates. the shit is going to hit the fan at that point, and I think the record viewership we saw during the conventions will be repeated.
My hope;
Palin cracks under the pressure and breaks down in tears, McCain snaps and throws an N-bomb.
These two are reversible, BTW.
September 16, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw someone mention Rush Limbaugh and it made me think of something.
My friend overseas in Europe just told me Rush Limbaugh is on from 6am-9am every weekday morning on Armed Forces Network (AFN) radio.
Isn't that a little partisan to be played on a military network? I mean, the guy demonizes liberals. I can't imagine that would be healthy for any military environment.
September 16, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's been that way for 8 years, darlin.
That ain't recent.
September 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Expect OBama to continue to rise in Gallup and Rasmussen in the next day or so as +McCain numbers fall by the wayside.
There was little evidence of the Bradley effect in the primaries and in many instances, including states like Indiana, North Carolina, Virginia, Missouri, South Carolina and Iowa, Obama actually over-performed his poll numbers.
Certainly there will be some who will vote against Obama based on his race and then claim otherwise, but I also think there are lots of life-long Republicans (some in my family in fact), particularly well-educated ones, who will vote for Obama, not only because of his ability and policies, but because voting for the first African American president will make them fell better about themselves and the country.
Finally, I think that any Bradley effect will be overwhelmed by a highly motivated African American vote (which seems to be getting little discussion in the press), and newly registered voters.
September 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, doh! Of course, the polls are moving back. The Palin Convention bounce is at its tail end. The polls are going to move back to where they were pre-convention.
Add in some serious hammering on McCain on the economy and continuing Palingates and the trend in Obama's favor will continue. McCain will be stuck and unable to break through again. There will be nothing he can do except spew out endless negative ads and pray that Obama makes a gaffe. Which was the same strategy that Clinton tried as her campaign was in its death throes, and it didn't work. Won't work for McCain either.
September 16, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is proof in Obama's ability to play the long game. The guy has nerves of steel.
September 16, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so sick of these "don't worry" posts.
September 16, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, yep.
September 16, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
FWIW, Research 2000 now has Palin's favorable/unfavorables at +1
September 16, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I predict that by next Friday's first debate, Obama will be averaging a 2-3% point lead in the major polls - precisely where he was BEFORE the distraction of the conventions.
September 16, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain must be pooping in his pants going into this debate with the economy the way it is and his admitted ignorance about it.
September 16, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, he's 72 years old. He's always pooping in his pants.
September 16, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not willing to go that far--my mom is 78 and is in perfect control. But I do think Johny boy is in for some trouble next week.
September 16, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do not mean to sound either dramatic or, to use David Brooks' word of the day, condescending, but if Sarah Palin's choice does not ultimately cost McCain 5% then this country is even more gullible than Barnum hypothesized. But I do think we may finally see what it takes to convince the American public that not everyone is qualified for national office.
September 16, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg Rodriguez wrote an interesting column about precisely this "everyone is qualified" phenomenon. It appeared originally in the LA Times, and re-appeared in the SF Chronicle yesterday. Check 'er out:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/15/EDJJ12Q7GU.DTL
September 16, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forgive my ignorance, but has anyone bothered to ask, How accurate are the polls? If it is true that Obama's people have registered about 12,000,000 new voters in the last year or so, how -- if at all -- does this affect the validity of any national or state-wide polling data? When setting sample sizes and generating the list of voters to call in their polls, don't pollsters make certain evidence-based assumptions (premised on historical indicators and data) regarding the number of people and types of people (e.g. likely voter, registered voter, etc.) in the state or national electorate? If they do not accurately perform that function -- by failing to take into correct account the numbers and locations of new voters -- how does this affect their poll results/conclusions (particularly if you assume 12,000,000 newly registered voters nationally who have no voting history/record)?
September 16, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
On Ohio,,,, voter supression is alive and well... the head of the Ken Blackwell machine is in fact out, but the machine is still alive and well. Strickland can do what he can, and his AG is spot on, but at county levels extreme viligance, and a passel of legal beagles is necessary,,,,,,,, for the set up of the precints all the way to the final count. If NE Ohio hanky panky keeps up, it'll cost Barack Ohio, just like with Kerry and Gore,,,,, both of whom way after the fact, it was discovered, won Ohio.
September 16, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think the Republicans would 'torpedo' their candidate for president. With it this close (internals aside, the race is damn close), it would be ridiculous for them not to give it a shot.
Yeah, feathers may ruffle and McCain's campaign may go into disarray again: I'm amazed how long they've held it together since multiple self-destructions last year. But they aren't going to shoot the horse yet, he's still running.
September 16, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry, this was for roy_flagg00 above
September 16, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't put too much stock in any of these daily national polls. They'll remain close until Nov 4 unless there is a major gaffe(s) by one side or the other... and you won't need a poll to tell you the effect of the gaffe. Otherwise, I see these polls as redundant: it is close.
September 16, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forget about Ohio. McCain has that one. I don't doubt that WI and MI will go to Obama, so long as it's a clean election in those states. But that's not going to happen. The Republican Party is a criminal organization masquerading as a political party, and Obama had better have a plan for dealing with them, or we're right back to 2000 and 2004.
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/editorial/304878
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080911/pl_usnw/project_vote_denounces_gop_plans_to_foreclose_on_the_voting_rights_of_low_income_michigan_residents
September 16, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I pray you are wrong about OH. When I consider the politics in this state, I'm embarrassed to say I'm from OH.
September 17, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink