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Obama Keeps Hitting McCain On The Economy

In Colorado, Obama is currently hammering McCain again for his claim that the "fundamentals of our economy are strong" -- another sign that the Obama team thinks they've got McCain in a serious gaffe that perfectly reinforces the message that McCain is out of touch with the economic distress of most Americans.

From the prepared remarks:

Yesterday, Wall Street suffered its worst losses since just after 9/11. We are in the most serious financial crisis in generations. Yet Senator McCain stood up yesterday and said that the fundamentals of the economy are strong

A few hours later, his campaign sent him back out to clean up his remarks, and he tried to explain himself again this morning by saying that what he meant was that American workers are strong. But we know that Senator McCain meant what he said the first time, because he has said it over and over again throughout this campaign -- no fewer than 16 times, according to one independent count.

Obama is also trying to sharpen up his efforts to tie the financial crisis directly to the conservative anti-regulation philosophy espoused by McCain for so long (pretty much up until yesterday, that is):

Make no mistake: my opponent is running for four more years of policies that will throw the economy further out of balance. His outrage at Wall Street would be more convincing if he wasn't offering them more tax cuts. His call for fiscal responsibility would be believable if he wasn't for more tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, and more of a trillion dollar war in Iraq paid for with deficit spending and borrowing from foreign creditors like China. His newfound support for regulation bears no resemblance to his scornful attitude towards oversight and enforcement.

John McCain cannot be trusted to reestablish proper oversight of our financial markets for one simple reason: he has shown time and again that he does not believe in it.

Separately, The Times has a good (if overly polite) rundown on the extent to which McCain's newfound populism in response to the crisis is out of whack with his decades-long record. Full transcript of Obama's remarks after the jump.

Over the last few days, we have seen clearly what's at stake in this election. The news from Wall Street has shaken the American people's faith in our economy. The situation with Lehman Brothers and other financial institutions is the latest in a wave of crises that have generated tremendous uncertainty about the future of our financial markets. This is a major threat to our economy and its ability to create good-paying jobs and help working Americans pay their bills, save for their future, and make their mortgage payments.

Since this turmoil began over a year ago, the housing market has collapsed. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had to be effectively taken over by the government. Three of America's five largest investment banks failed or have been sold off in distress. Yesterday, Wall Street suffered its worst losses since just after 9/11. We are in the most serious financial crisis in generations. Yet Senator McCain stood up yesterday and said that the fundamentals of the economy are strong

A few hours later, his campaign sent him back out to clean up his remarks, and he tried to explain himself again this morning by saying that what he meant was that American workers are strong. But we know that Senator McCain meant what he said the first time, because he has said it over and over again throughout this campaign - no fewer than 16 times, according to one independent count.

Now I certainly don't fault Senator McCain for all of the problems we're facing, but I do fault the economic philosophy he subscribes to. Because the truth is, what Senator McCain said yesterday fits with the same economic philosophy that he's had for 26 years. It's the philosophy that says we should give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down. It's the philosophy that says even common-sense regulations are unnecessary and unwise. It's a philosophy that lets Washington lobbyists shred consumer protections and distort our economy so it works for the special interests instead of working people.

We've had this philosophy for eight years. We know the results. You feel it in your own lives. Jobs have disappeared, and peoples' life savings have been put at risk. Millions of families face foreclosure, and millions more have seen their home values plummet. The cost of everything from gas to groceries to health care has gone up, while the dream of a college education for our kids and a secure and dignified retirement for our seniors is slipping away. These are the struggles that Americans are facing. This is the pain that has now trickled up.

So let's be clear: what we've seen the last few days is nothing less than the final verdict on an economic philosophy that has completely failed. And I am running for President of the United States because the dreams of the American people must not be endangered any more. It's time to put an end to a broken system in Washington that is breaking the American economy. It's time for change that makes a real difference in your lives.
If you want to understand the difference between how Senator McCain and I would govern as President, you can start by taking a look at how we've responded to this crisis. Because Senator McCain's approach was the same as the Bush Administration's: support ideological policies that made the crisis more likely; do nothing as the crisis hits; and then scramble as the whole thing collapses. My approach has been to try to prevent this turmoil.

In February of 2006, I introduced legislation to stop mortgage transactions that promoted fraud, risk or abuse. A year later, before the crisis hit, I warned Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke about the risks of mounting foreclosures and urged them to bring together all the stakeholders to find solutions to the subprime mortgage meltdown. Senator McCain did nothing.

Last September, I stood up at NASDAQ and said it's time to realize that we are in this together - that there is no dividing line between Wall Street and Main Street - and warned of a growing loss of trust in our capital markets. Months later, Senator McCain told a newspaper that he'd love to give them a solution to the mortgage crisis, "but" - he said - "I don't know one."

In January, I outlined a plan to help revive our faltering economy, which formed the basis for a bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress. Senator McCain used the crisis as an excuse to push a so-called stimulus plan that offered another huge and permanent corporate tax cut, including $4 billion for the big oil companies, but no immediate help for workers.

This March, in the wake of the Bear Stearns bailout, I called for a new, 21st century regulatory framework to restore accountability, transparency, and trust in our financial markets. Just a few weeks earlier, Senator McCain made it clear where he stands: "I'm always for less regulation," he said, and referred to himself as "fundamentally a deregulator."

This is what happens when you confuse the free market with a free license to let special interests take whatever they can get, however they can get it. This is what happens when you see seven years of incomes falling for the average worker while Wall Street is booming, and declare - as Senator McCain did earlier this year - that we've made great progress economically under George Bush. That is how you can reach the conclusion - as late as yesterday - that the fundamentals of the economy are strong.

Well, we have a different way of measuring the fundamentals of our economy. We know that the fundamentals that we use to measure economic strength are whether we are living up to that fundamental promise that has made this country great -that America is a place where you can make it if you try.

Americans have always pursued our dreams within a free market that has been the engine of our progress. It's a market that has created a prosperity that is the envy of the world, and rewarded the innovators and risk-takers who have made America a beacon of science, and technology, and discovery. But the American economy has worked in large part because we have guided the market's invisible hand with a higher principle - that America prospers when all Americans can prosper. That is why we have put in place rules of the road to make competition fair, and open, and honest.

Too often, over the last quarter century, we have lost this sense of shared prosperity. And this has not happened by accident. It's because of decisions made in boardrooms, on trading floors and in Washington. We failed to guard against practices that all too often rewarded financial manipulation instead of productivity and sound business practices. We let the special interests put their thumbs on the economic scales. The result has been a distorted market that creates bubbles instead of steady, sustainable growth; a market that favors Wall Street over Main Street, but ends up hurting both.

Let me be clear: the American economy does not stand still, and neither should the rules that govern it. The evolution of industries often warrants regulatory reform - to foster competition, lower prices, or replace outdated oversight structures. Old institutions cannot adequately oversee new practices. Old rules may not fit the roads where our economy is leading. But instead of sensible reform that rewarded success and freed the creative forces of the market, too often we've excused an ethic of greed, corner-cutting and inside dealing that threatens the long-term stability of our economic system.

It happened in the 1980s, when we loosened restrictions on Savings and Loans and appointed regulators who ignored even these weaker rules. Too many S&Ls took advantage of the lax rules set by Washington to gamble that they could make big money in speculative real estate. Confident of their clout in Washington, they made hundreds of billions in bad loans, knowing that if they lost money, the government would bail them out. And they were right. The gambles did not pay off, our economy went into recession, and the taxpayers ended up footing the bill. Sound familiar?

And it has happened again during this decade, in part because of how we deregulated the financial services sector. After we repealed outmoded rules instead of updating them, we were left overseeing 21st century innovation with 20th century regulations. When subprime mortgage lending took a reckless and unsustainable turn, a patchwork of regulators systematically and deliberately eliminated the regulations protecting the American people and failed to raise warning flags that could have protected investors and the pensions American workers count on.

This was not the invisible hand of the market at work. These cycles of bubble and bust were symptoms of the ideology that my opponent is running to continue. John McCain has spent decades in Washington supporting financial institutions instead of their customers. In fact, one of the biggest proponents of deregulation in the financial sector is Phil Gramm - the same man who helped write John McCain's economic plan; the same man who said that we're going through a 'mental recession'; and the same man who called the United States of America a "nation of whiners." So it's hard to understand how Senator McCain is going to get us out of this crisis by doing the same things with the same old players.

Make no mistake: my opponent is running for four more years of policies that will throw the economy further out of balance. His outrage at Wall Street would be more convincing if he wasn't offering them more tax cuts. His call for fiscal responsibility would be believable if he wasn't for more tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, and more of a trillion dollar war in Iraq paid for with deficit spending and borrowing from foreign creditors like China. His newfound support for regulation bears no resemblance to his scornful attitude towards oversight and enforcement. John McCain cannot be trusted to reestablish proper oversight of our financial markets for one simple reason: he has shown time and again that he does not believe in it.

What has happened these last eight years is not some historical anomaly, so we know what to expect if we try these policies for another four. When lobbyists run your campaign, the special interests end up gaming the system. When the White House is hostile to any kind of oversight, corporations cut corners and consumers pay the price. When regulators are chosen for their disdain for regulation and we gut their ability to enforce the law, then the interests of the American people are not protected. It's an ideology that intentionally breeds incompetence in Washington and irresponsibility on Wall Street, and it's time to turn the page.

Just today, Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem. But here's the thing - this isn't 9/11. We know how we got into this mess. What we need now is leadership that gets us out. I'll provide it, John McCain won't, and that's the choice for the American people in this election.

History shows us that there is no substitute for presidential leadership in a time of economic crisis. FDR and Harry Truman didn't put their heads in the sand, or hand accountability over to a Commission. Bill Clinton didn't put off hard choices. They led, and that's what I will do. My priority as President will be the stability of the American economy and the prosperity of the American people. And I will make sure that our response focuses on middle class Americans - not the companies that created the problem.

To get out of this crisis - and to ensure that we are not doomed to repeat a cycle of bubble and bust again and again - we must take immediate measures to create jobs and continue to address the housing crisis; we must build a 21st century regulatory framework, and we must pursue a bold opportunity agenda that creates new jobs and grows the American economy.

To jumpstart job creation, I have proposed a $50 billion Emergency Economic Plan that would save 1 million jobs by rebuilding our infrastructure, repairing our schools, and helping our states and localities avoid damaging budget cuts.

I worked with leaders in Congress to create a new FHA Housing Security Program, which will help stabilize the housing market and allow Americans facing foreclosure to keep their homes at rates they can afford. Going forward, we need to replace Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as we know them with a structure that is focused on helping people buy homes - not engaging in market speculation. We can't have a situation like the old S&L scandal where its "heads" investors win, and "tails" taxpayers lose. That's going to take ending the lobbyist-driven dominance of these institutions that we've seen for far too long in Washington.

To prevent fraud in the mortgage market, I've proposed tough penalties on fraudulent lenders, and a Home Score system that will ensure consumers fully understand mortgage offers and whether they'll be able to make payments. To help low- and middle-income families, I will ease the burden on struggling homeowners through a universal homeowner's tax credit. This will add up to a 10 percent break off the mortgage interest rate for 10 million households. That's another $500 each year for many middle class families.

Unlike Senator McCain, I will change our bankruptcy laws to make it easier for families to stay in their homes. Right now, if you're a family that owns one house, bankruptcy judges are actually barred from helping you keep a roof over your head by writing down the value of your mortgage. If you own seven homes, the judge is free to write down any or all of the debt on your second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth or seventh homes. Now that may be of comfort to Senator McCain, but that's the kind of out-of-touch Washington loophole that makes no sense. When I'm President, we'll make our laws work for working people.

But as we've seen the last few days, the crisis in our financial markets now reaches well beyond the housing market. That's why it's time to do what I called for last September and again this past March - and it is only more overdue today.

Our capital markets cannot succeed without the public's trust. It's time to get serious about regulatory oversight, and that's what I will do as President. That starts with the core principles for reform that I discussed at Cooper Union.

First, if you're a financial institution that can borrow from the government, you should be subject to government oversight and supervision. When the Federal Reserve steps in as a lender of last resort, it is providing an insurance policy underwritten by the American taxpayer. In return, taxpayers have every right to expect that financial institutions with access to that credit are not taking excessive risks.

Second, we must reform requirements on all regulated financial institutions. We must strengthen capital requirements, particularly for complex financial instruments like some of the mortgage securities and other derivatives at the center of our current crisis. We must develop and rigorously manage liquidity risk. We must investigate rating agencies and potential conflicts of interest with the people they are rating. And we must establish transparency requirements that demand full disclosure by financial institutions to shareholders and counterparties. As we reform our regulatory system at home, we must address the same problems abroad so that financial institutions around the world are subject to similar rules of the road.

Third, we need to streamline our regulatory agencies. Our overlapping and competing regulatory agencies cannot oversee the large and complex institutions that dominate the financial landscape. Different institutions compete in multiple markets - Washington should not pretend otherwise. A streamlined system will provide better oversight and reduce costs.

Fourth, we need to regulate institutions for what they do, not what they are. Over the last few years, commercial banks and thrift institutions were subject to guidelines on subprime mortgages that did not apply to mortgage brokers and companies. This regulatory framework failed to protect homeowners, and made no sense for our financial system. When it comes to protecting the American people, it should make no difference what kind of institution they are dealing with.

Fifth, we must crack down on trading activity that crosses the line to market manipulation. The last six months have shown that this remains a serious problem in many markets and becomes especially problematic during moments of great financial turmoil. We cannot embrace the administration's vision of turning over the protection of investors to the industries themselves. We need regulators that actually enforce the rules instead of overlooking them. The SEC should investigate and punish market manipulation, and report its conclusions to Congress.

Sixth, we must establish a process that identifies systemic risks to the financial system like the crisis that has overtaken our economy. Too often, we end up where we are today: dealing with threats to the financial system that weren't anticipated by regulators. We need a standing financial market advisory group to meet regularly and provide advice to the President, Congress, and regulators on the state of our financial markets and the risks they face. It's time to anticipate risks before they erupt into a full-blown crisis.

These six principles should guide the legal reforms needed to establish a 21st century regulatory system. But the change we need goes beyond laws and regulation. Financial institutions must do a better job at managing risks. There is something wrong when boards of directors or senior managers don't understand the implications of the risks assumed by their own institutions. It's time to realign incentives and CEO compensation packages, so that both high level executives and employees better serve the interests of shareholders.

Finally, the American people must be able to trust that their government is looking out for all of us - not the special interests that have set the agenda in Washington for eight years, and the lobbyists who run John McCain's campaign.

I've spent my career taking on lobbyists and their money, and I've won. If you wanted a special favor in Illinois, there was actually a law that let you give campaign cash to politicians for their own personal use. In the State House, they called it business-as-usual. I called it legalized bribery, and while it didn't make me the most popular guy in Springfield, I put an end to it.

When I got to Washington, we saw some of the worst corruption since Watergate. I led the fight for reform in my party, and let me tell you - not everyone in my party was too happy about it. When I proposed forcing lobbyists to disclose who they're raising money from and who in Congress they're funneling it to, I had a few choice words directed my way on the floor of the Senate. But we got it done, and we banned gifts from lobbyists, and free rides on their fancy jets. And I am the only candidate who can say that Washington lobbyists do not fund my campaign, they will not run my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am President of the United States. That's how we're going to end the outrage of special interests tipping the scales.

The most important thing we must do is restore opportunity for all Americans. To get our economy growing, we need to recapture that fundamental American promise. That if you work hard, you can pay the bills. That if you get sick, you won't go bankrupt. That your kids can get a good education, and that we can leave a legacy of greater opportunity to future generations.

That's the change the American people need. While Senator McCain likes to talk about change these days, his economic program offers nothing but more of the same. The American people need more than change as a slogan- we need change that makes a real difference in your life.

Change means a tax code that doesn't reward the lobbyists who wrote it, but the American workers and small businesses who deserve it. I will stop giving tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America. I will eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses and start-ups - that's how we'll grow our economy and create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.

I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. My opponent doesn't want you to know this, but under my plan, tax rates will actually be less than they were under Ronald Reagan. If you make less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increase one single dime. In fact, I offer three times the tax relief for middle-class families as Senator McCain does - because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.

I will finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves. And I will stop insurance companies from discriminating against those who are sick and need care the most

I will create the jobs of the future by transforming our energy economy. We'll tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power. I'll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America. I'll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars. And I'll invest 150 billion dollars over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy - wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and five million new jobs that pay well and can't ever be outsourced

And now is the time to finally meet our moral obligation to provide every child a world-class education, because it will take nothing less to compete in the global economy. I'll recruit an army of new teachers, and pay them higher salaries and give them more support. But in exchange, I will ask for higher standards and more accountability. And we will keep our promise to every young American - if you commit to serving your community or your country, we will make sure you can afford a college education.

This is the change we need - the kind of bottom up growth and innovation that will advance the American economy by advancing the dreams of all Americans.

Times are hard. I will not pretend that the changes we need will come without cost - though I have presented ways we can achieve these changes in a fiscally responsible way. I know that we'll have to overcome our doubts and divisions and the determined opposition of powerful special interests before we can truly reform a broken economy and advance opportunity.

But I am running for President because we simply cannot afford four more years of an economic philosophy that works for Wall Street instead of Main Street, and ends up devastating both.

I don't want to wake up in four years to find that more Americans fell out of the middle-class, and more families lost their savings. I don't want to see that our country failed to invest in our ability to compete, our children's future was mortgaged on another mountain of debt, and our financial markets failed to find a firmer footing.

This time - this election - is our chance to stand up and say: enough is enough!

We can do this because Americans have done this before. Time and again, we've battled back from adversity by recognizing that common stake that we have in each other's success. That's why our economy hasn't just been the world's greatest wealth generator - it's bound America together, it's created jobs, and it's made the dream of opportunity a reality for generation after generation of Americans.

Now it falls to us. And I need you to make it happen. If you want the next four years looking just like the last eight, then I am not your candidate. But if you want real change - if you want an economy that rewards work, and that works for Main Street and Wall Street; if you want tax relief for the middle class and millions of new jobs; if you want health care you can afford and education so that our kids can compete; then I ask you to knock on some doors, and make some calls, and talk to your neighbors, and give me your vote on November 4th. And if you do, I promise you - we will win Colorado, we will win this election, and we will change America together.


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The Obama campaign should mention who else thought that the fundamentals of the economy were strong: George W. Bush.

Wrong then. Still wrong.

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Don't forget the part about the Clinton administration forcing Fannie and Freddie into doing writing loans that couldn't be paid back, and that Obama's "economic team" consists of ex-CEO's of the Fannie aand Freddie, oh and that Obama was the 3rd largest recipient of campaign cash from Fannie, right behind John Kerry and in front of Hillary...on second thought, you should probably just blame Bush for the whole thing and keep calling McCain Bush 44...it's soooo much more intelletually honest.

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Oh...and he's in second when you combine the F's:
All Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

Name Grand Total PACs Individuals
Dodd, Christopher $165,400 $48,500 $116,900
Obama, Barack $126,349 $6,000 $120,349

"Who's to blame for the biggest financial catastrophe of our time? There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is former Sen. Phil Gramm. Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown."

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

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"My friendshz, I understand the economy. I know how to fix this crisis."
And his economic advisor is the guy who engineered this mess, Mr. Enron himself. Phil Gramm.
McCain is completely clueless about how to "fix" the economy. It's obvious whenever he opens his mouth without a script.

"...McCain's campaign has gotten three times more money from the industry than Obama's has -- $1.3 million compared to about $394,000.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/oil-industry-leans-toward-mcca.html

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Right - because knowing what private citizens who work at these places gave to which candidates really addresses the problems at hand.

Distract, distract, distract - does a Republican know how to do anything else?

You know something's gone wrong when the Republicans start using the "Clinton did it" argument.

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Actually it was Robert Reich last night on CNBC

A McCain guy talking about "intellectual honesty"....that's rich.

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"Intellectually honest"?

Bush, August 30:"There have been some recent signs that our economy is beginning to improve," Bush said in his weekly radio address."

Paulson, July 20: "But our economy has very strong long-term fundamentals."

Bush, Sept., 2007 ""I say that the fundamentals of our nation's economy are strong," "

I could go on and on.

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The Fundamentals are strong:
Nonfarm Business Sector:
Output per Hour
+4.3% in 2nd Qtr of 2008

Hourly Compensation
+3.7% in 2nd Qtr of 2008

Unit Labor Costs
-0.5% in 2nd Qtr of 2008

Output
+3.4% in 2nd Qtr of 2008

Hours of All Persons
-0.8% in 2nd Qtr of 2008

productivity growth over the past four quarters has been at 3.4 percent – above the averages for each of the past three decades.

Price of Oil is back under $100 per barrel.
The Dollar is strengthening in Europe.

Ahh, yes! There will soon be a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot. Prosperity is just around the corner. The fundamentals of our economy are sound.
Are there any other Hooverisms we can encourage the Republicans to employ?

Percentages are the contemptable kind of "damn lies": without any reference to the basis of comparison (i.e., percent of WHAT?), they are totally meaningless. Propaganda 101 is replete with how to use percentages to dazzle and confuse.

Intellectual honesty, my ass.

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Yes, the American worker is amazingly productive.

If "fundamentals of economy" = "American worker", as McCain so awkwardly tried to claim yesterday, well, then, by productivity's standards, one could say "The AMerican worker of the economy is strong".

Which isn't, of course, what McCain and Bush have said repeatedly.

But it makes about as much sense as what they have said about the economy.

The fundamentals are strong? Really?

The number of unemployed persons rose by 592,000 to 9.4 million in August, increasing the unemployment rate to 6.1%.

It gets better. Over the past twelve months, the number of e unemployed persons has increased by 2.2 million and the unemployment rate has risen by 1.4 percentage points.

Millions of Americans are suffering from the consequences of predatory lending. Such is the effect of a deregulated financial sector.

Speculators continue to distort the supply-demand chain of oil. Crude may be below $100 right now, but surely the lack of stability in the Middle East will give justification to speculators to artificially exaggerate prices as they did so effectively earlier this year, when crude soared to $150/barrel.

Purchasing power of wages continues to weaken because of inflation, further plunging the low-wage labor sector.

SFCWallace, what economy are you talking about?

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...and the Dow's up almost 300 points from this morning....yep the Next Great Depression is right around the corner...Henrey Potter is on his way over to shut down the Bailey Savings and Loan...we'll all be in soup line by the end of the week...you guys crack me up!

How's the Dow doing since this time last year? Down roughly 3,000 points - or 20% of its value.

That's change we can believe in!

OMG, fundamentals of my bank account suck. Period. All we care about.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/09/econ_snapshot.html

"1. Job losses mount. The United States lost a total of 605,000 jobs in the first eight months of 2008, including 84,000 in August 2008. For the past 12 months, the United States lost on average 23,600 jobs each month after gaining an average of 116,100 in the 12 months before that and 184,000 in the 12 months before then.

2. Unemployment rates reflect broad labor market recession...

3. Wages are flat. Factoring in inflation, hourly wages were only 0.2% higher, and weekly wages were actually 0.8% lower in July 2008 than in March 2001...

4. Fewer people have pensions and health insurance....

5. Family debt remains high. Household debt averaged 132.4% of disposable income in the first quarter of 2008...

6. The housing crisis deepens. New home sales in July 2008 were 35.3% lower than a year earlier, and existing home sales were 13.2% lower....

7. Homeowners lose wealth. The values of all homes fell by 2.5%, or $417 billion, in the first quarter of 2007...

8. People are paying more for basics. All prices rose by 24.5% from March 2001 to July 2008, food prices rose by 25.5%, fuels and utilities by 52.9%, medical care by 35.1%, transportation by 35.8%, and college tuition by 67.9%....

9. Mortgage troubles mount. One in 11 mortgages is delinquent or in foreclosure....

10. Debt burden is taking its toll. Credit card defaults rose to 5.5% of all credit card debt by the second quarter of 2008, an increase of 14.7% from the first quarter of 2001....

11. The budget deficit increases sharply....

12. The U.S. government is increasingly indebted to foreigners....

13. The trade deficit remains high...."

These numbers mean FUCK ALL to voters who can't buy macaroni and pepper for dinner, smart ass.

While we're at, let's quote the one about the millions of "jobs" the Bush admin created, too. You know, the ones where you say catchy phrases like: "Welcome to Wal-Mart" or the ever-popular "Would you like fries with that?"

Or, maybe we should focus on the hundreds of thousands of out of work Wall Streeters since spring. Ask them if they think your fucking economic fundamentals are strong? Or those whose jobs have been outsourced, like my buddies in IT at my company. I'm sorry, those aren't workers in your seat when you're walking out the door, they're KSPs (key service providers).

Voodoo fucking economics. Enjoy the ride, Wallace. You certainly seem to be willing to grease the skids.

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so mccain is right .

the economy is just fine.

and he doesnt need to be put on a short rope.

Do you know what "unit labor costs" are? It is a measure of how much an American worker on average gets paid for each unit of economic output in the U.S. If unit labor costs are declining while the general price level is increasing (which it has been), then real income per hour declines. You have to work more hours just to break even. So I hope your own personal unit labor costs decline real soon, dope.

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And, you left out this:

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis is past president of the Homeownership Alliance, an advocacy group whose members included Freddie and Fannie. In that role, he defended the companies against increased regulation.

LA Times, Sept. 09, 2008.

Can we talk about "intellectual honesty", please?

"Years before Phil Gramm was a McCain campaign adviser and a lobbyist for a Swiss bank at the center of the housing credit crisis, he pulled a sly maneuver in the Senate that helped create today's subprime meltdown."

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

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Don't forget the part about the Clinton administration forcing Fannie and Freddie into doing writing loans that couldn't be paid back,

Fine, then cite the Clinton Administration ruling or regulation that "forced Fannie and Freddie into writing loans that couldn' be paid back".

Got anything?

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Tsk tsk... no response.

I guess Wallace is either:

-busy trying to find an actual citation of a Clinton Administration ruling or regulation that "forced Fannie and Freddie into writing loans that couldn' be paid back",

-or he's given up looking,

-or he knew there wasn't anything there in the first place,

-or he's too busy calling the Liberals here to task for their lack of intellectual honesty

Thanks for the example Wallace. You represent Conservatives well.

mccain is in freefall.

just watch

don't forget Herbert Hoover, now there's an economic hero even more beloved than W.

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George Bush and Herbert Hoover.

This will work. I'd also like to see the Obama camp tie McCain to backing Bush's plan to privatize social security. That looks especially foolish today.

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"John McCain cannot be trusted..."
That is a good line to tie in with McCain's non stop lying and distortions.

BO made two suttle references to John McCain and the Keaton 5 scandal in the 1980s.

It happened in the 1980s, when we loosened restrictions on Savings and Loans and appointed regulators who ignored even these weaker rules. Too many S&Ls took advantage of the lax rules set by Washington to gamble that they could make big money in speculative real estate. Confident of their clout in Washington, they made hundreds of billions in bad loans, knowing that if they lost money, the government would bail them out. And they were right. The gambles did not pay off, our economy went into recession, and the taxpayers ended up footing the bill. Sound familiar? And it has happened again during this decade, in part because of how we deregulated the financial services sector. After we repealed outmoded rules instead of updating them, we were left overseeing 21st century innovation with 20th century regulations.

And here again

We can't have a situation like the old S&L scandal where its "heads" investors win, and "tails" taxpayers lose. That's going to take ending the lobbyist-driven dominance of these institutions that we've seen for far too long in Washington.

The elbows are starting to fly. Its whoop ass time, BO style.

If Obama can nudge the media into discussing McCain's role in the S&L scandal without having to directly bring it up himself, that would be quite a coup.

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Keating is a perfect topic for a 527 to get to the airwaves.

"Crooked then. Crooked now."

PEACE

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bmaz over at emptywheel had a great, detailed blog on that yesterday. He's an AZ lawyer, born and raised there:

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/15/john-mccain-still-living-the-keating-five-lush-highlife/

Is there any reason why Obama shouldn't start talking about Keating?

I think the only reason not to is fact that most people don't know anything about it nor do they have any context to understand it. Dredging up ancient history can be risky.

That's why if Obama can effectively draw parallels in people's minds between what's happening now and what happened back in the 80's, he can create the context. Then you can hit McCain with the Keating stuff. My point is that before it will have any impact, people need to believe that it matters.

As I mentioned, the best case would be for the media to put 2 and 2 together and raise the Keating issue on their own. I know, that's a lot to wish for.

My 30 year old daughter called me last night (in CA) wanting to know about the S&L debacle. I told her to check the internet as I couldn't remember the specifics but Neil Bush and McCain were a part of it.

Also, my 29 year old, in NYC, called yesterday about the state of the economy. My point is, my kids are not political junkies nor financially on top of things, yet they are REALLY scared. I would have to conclude adding McCain to this mess now and bringing up his contribution to the S&L scandal in a clear, easy to understand manner would be helpful to Obama's campaign. And also, how taxpayers are probably still paying for the S&L mess.

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Don't forget to add the part about how in 2 years Obama accepted more campaign money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than anyone else did over 10 years (with the exception of Chris Dodd, he's the true king of finacial industry kick backs, and I still bet Obama had a better 2 year take than him...I only have the numbers that cover the ten year time frame and Barry almost caught him).

Why don't you link where you got your numbers from, from some reputable source. I am sure others would like to see them from the source rather than hear you comment on them but never show where your numbers actually came from. I could claim McCain had a higher take from satan, that he and bush got more than anyone, and never show any real data from an independant source, and blather on about it too, but it dosen't prove ANYTHING till you can actually show reputable data. If it came from campaign data from McCain, or some linked source, we all know about how trustworthy that is.

Not sure what this proves, but the data is there. Although, if you scroll down to the bottom of the page there someone has done the homework and found that the NY Times got McCain getting 160,100 in contributions from Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae also. I don't particularly LOVE this sort of data, showing both sides on the take from bankrupt financial institutions, but they both recieved money, not just Obama. McCain according to the times actually recieved more. Seems strange you omitted that McCain recieved more money than Obama did, but you linked me the page yourself that shows it at the bottom, sort of like you didn't think I would read it.

Oh, and here is your link to the times showing the amount McCain recieved. It totals 33,751 more than Obama recieved from the same contributers, or to 17,751 less if you figure that the Opensecrets site did not add the 16,000 in indivigual contributions Obama also recieved.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.graphic.jpg

Now, proving they're both dirty doesn't really mean much to me, it just goes to prove you are cherry picking your data. Republicans need to learn to tell the truth, the whole truth, and maybe stretch a little for the fun of politics. You'll get caught in your lies on a site like this.

The elbows are starting to fly. Its whoop ass time, BO style.

I agree. These references aren't accidental. And the McKept camp knows it.

So while McKept's campaign is out there claiming he built the Blackberry, Obama, like the good lawyer he is, building his case.

It is the economy, stupid.

And it's the McCain-Bush policy of deregulation and giving away the store to Wall Street and big business that fucked everything up.

Hammer this home every day from now through November 4th.

I really sort of wish Obama had just ignored McCain's "explanation." But aw well.

Seconded. His civility is charming in a primary. But this guy just said you want to teach kindergartners sex-ed when you don't. Come on... away with civility!

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It's "age appropriate" civility...

That's actually funny.

I think he's gonna get a lot farther telling the whole truth and treating people like grown ups, espically when what the other side is doing is the polar opposite. Telling the whole truth on it pushes home the point about McCain and Palin making things up all the time without having to say it.

It is the economy, and being TOTALLY honest that can utterly sink McCain now. If Obama can make people trust what he is saying, they're already starting to distrust McCain, and nothing he can do will win it back if Obama keeps shooting everything straight. He is going to have to make Obama out to be a liar, and it's going to be hard to do if Obama's camp dosen't give him ammo.

Current scenario is that it's going to be the Dems who are honest, say they have ideas to fix the economy, and the republicans did it wrong, against the republicans smearing Obama for being a baby killer and getting caught lying all the time. Don't get confused, Obama can control the entire debate up to the election and win easily if they can keep the media focus where its being put right now.

FOX is the only one carrying it live in full.

I'm watching on CNN.com.

I have to say like on other rare occassions I woke up this morning with a concern this is yet another election- a victim of sleazy and desperate gimmicks, Americans are yet again falling prey.

But I heard him speak and while my concerns haven't fully evoparated, I have a renewed feeling we can win this thing.

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Now watch carefully how mcShame spoke this morning:

mcShame: "Americans are hurting very badly"

followed by a smirk!!!!

See it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch-_iv-mNU

Watch the smirk, the smiling, listen to the laughter.

Then contrast that with Obama. Who really cares about the American public and their problems?

That should boost your hope level even more.

Same thing happens to me: concern when I am not hearing him, but near total certainty when he is on talking.

My concern does not come from the polls or the campaign; it comes from surfing the netroots' blogosphere and their abyssmal messaging and obsession with trivia and inanity, much like the MSM, if a little more catty towards our own candidate and a lot more fatalistic our prospects.
I despair when I am in these parts, then I canvass in the real world, listen to Obama and I am back to my sunny, optimistic self...

Ditto.

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How long until McCain responds that if he is going to drop hints about the keating five, then let's talk about Ayers and Rezco and Obama smoking crack?

And Candy Crowley will report that McCain's response is what it is.

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If McCain goes near Obama's alleged crack use, he'll be dead in the water within days.

At that point, all bets are off and everything regarding McCain's character will be in bounds. Crippled first wife, anyone? Derailing investigations into Cindy's drug use, anyone?

Trust me. They will not go there, and will regret it if they're stupid enough to try it.

As for Ayers and Rezko? Bring it. That was dealt with long ago, and even a stooge like Hannity couldn't bring it back to life.

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There will be no reference to anyone's drug use by McCain. There is no way he would risk dragging Cindy into the mudfest. This is probably the only point on which I am pretty sure he will put some kind of principal other than victory first.

Then let him.

Keating 5 and Phil Gramm and Enron will lose McCain this election.

I think that's Obama's ace in the hole. If things are looking dicey by early-to-mid Oct., these will come out...

Turn off Fox News and Rush, it is rotting your brain. Go to the source, get pure information and make your own decisions, not filtered BS.

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The Worst Week Of John McCain's Political Career continues.

His gaffe yesterday was worse than the 'houses' gaffe. Way worse. His negatives will be taking a jump over the next week for certain.

And today one of his advisers insinuated that McCain was the person who made the Blackberry possible. Things are getting worse and worse, just look to him on Morning Joe early today. This is a massive wreck waiting to happen.

McKept: Our economic fundamentals are so strong, until I can't even remember how many houses I have.

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Good speech. Filled with both substance and fire. Good for Fox News for carrying it live. Boo to CNN and MSNBC for failing to carry it.

As to Candy Crowley, maybe she should be replaced by a real journalist.

McCain Aide says McCain help create the blackberry.
http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/433071/33517788

Research In Motion, the company that made the Blackberry, is Canadian.

According to NY Times, McCain's people are saying it was a "boneheaded joke" by a staffer.

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'A boneheaded joke' is becoming an apt description of his entire campaign at this point.

Amen, brother!

"Overzealous Republican Staffer" again? I haven't heard from him in a while.

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Holtz-Eakin is a senior policy advisor to McCain.

This is a little higher on the Stupid Scale than stealing cookie recpies from the food Network.

Research in Motion IS Canadian, and they developed the software used in Blackberries, but I'm pretty sure that Blackberry itself is an American company.

Blackberry is the product. RIM (Research in Motion) is the company.

Accordind to WSJ (via Ambinder) McCain laughed to the comment and call it a joke by the staffer.

Translation: The staffer has been thrown under the bus. I wonder if he will throw Fiorina too after her commment today on Palin's managing skills.

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Eating their own... is now occurring... in the mcShame Retaurant:

You can get all the lies you want
At the mcShame Restaurant ♪

Is it me, or does it feel like all the wind is at Obama's back right now? He's fired up and is taking it to the Republicans and is taking it right to McCain.

Yes. And this is just the beginning...

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Yup. Obama is hitting hard on substance. That's why I like him. He is actually attacking McCain over policy. McCain is trying to reinvent himself as a government reformer, but he has a long history of being a really serious deregulator. It is pretty obvious that excessive deregulation caused our current problems. Obama is calling for balance. That is what we need right now.

I hope you're right and that it STAYS that way. Can't afford any reversals...

Just got back from this speech in Golden. It was very focused on the economic bad news, how we got there, and how we move forward from here. He was feisty and determined, not a Kumbaya feel to this one at all.

From:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/parachutes-away.html

Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Parachutes Away!

From ABC News:

Republican ticket mates John McCain and Sarah Palin Monday blasted corporate executives who leave their company with a "golden parachute" and pledged to "stop multimillion dollar payouts" to CEOs, seeming to forget their own top economic adviser Carly Fiorina walked away with $45 million, including a $21.4 million severance package when she was dismissed by Hewlett Packard in 2005.

Cite:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/parachutes-away.html

In other Fiorina news...

Carly Fiorina, a key surrogate for John McCain on economic issues, said on Tuesday that Sarah Palin does not have the experience needed to run a major company like the one that Fiorina formerly headed.

"Do you think [Sarah Palin] has the experience to run a major company, like Hewlett Packard?" asked the host.

"No, I don't," responded Fiorina. "But you know what? That's not what she's running for."

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Whoa. So she's saying that running a company is a tougher job than being president?!?!?!

Only the way she does it. Take one of the best brands on the planet and auger it into the ground at high speed.

Obama is on FIRE!!! He's making subtle reference to the McCain's SNL scandal in 80s.

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Over the net few weeks, the Keating reference need to get less subtle and more frequent.

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McCain was on Saturday Night Live in the 80's?

And McCain is in Florida giving a "Enough is anough, I'm mad as hell at Washington and I'm not going to take it anymore" podium banging speech.

This guy is such a phony. He should just wait an hour and then give Obama's exact speech and pretend it's his own, he's blatantly copying Obama's campaign, might as well go all the way.

Candy Crowley has endorsed Mcwar a long time like most of the CNN gang...

It was painful yesterday to watch her. Surprisingly Puppet Halperin
destroyed her...I wonder what did McWar did to Halperin for his reversal...

Mcwar has created the blueberry which was created by a Canadian company.

I am wondering what it will take for Americans to understand the McWar-pitbull scam. Having Mcwar and Pitbull elected would be a "war crime"...

I guess we will have an idea tomorrow if McWar numbers are going down...

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Mcwar has created the blueberry?

Didn't they call it the "Poison-berry?"

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Obama does a very good job attacking on issues. He mixes enough specifics in to give creedence to his claims. And he gets very animated.

I hope Obama goes after McCain like this in his rebuttals during the debates.

Obama is good on the issues because he has a decent understanding of them. Nobody can expect a single person to know everything - that's what the cabinet, staffers and aides are for, but he seems to have better than a general understanding, like he wouldn't be out of place discussing economic matters with his or other economy heavyweights.

McCain just regurgitates speeches and campaign talking points. If you tried to have a more detailed discussion with him I think he'd quickly prove to be in over his head.

I bet McCain wishes he chose Romney right about now.

I was saying to a friend last night that at least his aides wish he chosen Mitt (I think McCain loathes the man).

Instead of having a VP one has to hide from the press, he could have one who speaks as business leader.

Obama brought McCain's houses back:

"Right now, if you're a family that owns one house, bankruptcy judges are actually barred from helping you keep a roof over your head by writing down the value of your mortgage. If you own seven homes, the judge is free to write down any or all of the debt on your second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth or seventh homes. Now that may be of comfort to Senator McCain, but that's the kind of out-of-touch Washington loophole that makes no sense. When I'm President, we'll make our laws work for working people."

Wonderful stuff.

the only reason, in my opinion middle class people wouldnt give Obama their vote is some kind of bigotry

7 years ago I sat on my stoop here in Brooklyn thinking "THIS is the most serious financial crisis in generations." The stock markets were closed indefinitely and NYC, the world capital, was at a standstill.

So when Obama says that now "We are in the most serious financial crisis in generations", i find that to be the biggest pile of BS Obama has shoveled in a while.


What is your background in global economic markets, or do you think this limited to what is happening within the boundaries of NYC?

Apples and oranges.

we're talking a systemic financial crisis, which is in fact much worse than the problems caused by 9/11. You need to learn the difference between a financial crisis and a national security crisis.

Those two things are completely different. This is a self imposed destruction, an actual failing. 9/11 was a terrible incident that was brought on by outside factors outside of their control. Yes it sucked, but it was easier to get out of that because then, the fundamentals were strong, now, they are not. IF the fundamentals were strong, there wouldn't be failings.

Alan Greenspan seems to agree with Obama. I'm not saying that Greenspan deserves his oracular reputation, but for good or ill, the electorate is going to tend to agree with Obama here.

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Alan Greenspan is acutely aware that his fingerprints can be found next to Gramm's, and he's got an eye on his legacy.
Recent history has a way of figuring more prominently in most obituaries, ya know? Who among us wouldn't want theirs to give scant coverage to the fuck-ups?

Not even close to the same thing. 9/11 was an external disruption that was relatively easy to recover from; this exposes the entire financial system for the scam that it has become over the last several years, and threatens to bring it all crumbling down.

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When you have to resort to absurd notions for your defense squad, you are really, really hitting bottom!

anyone watching or reading this speech will get threethings from it:

1. Obama understands what has happened.

2.

ooops....

2. He thought it might be coming, and actually tried to take steps to prevent it.

3. John McCain does not have a clue.

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What a great speech by Obama! The audience was roaring!

I am glad to see Obama going back to LARGE crowds as he did yesterday.

No more of these dinky crowds.

We didn't feel that large. We were just pissed off about McCain blaming everybody else for the GOP's mess.

I heard there were 3,000 tickets. Didn't look like any more than that to me.

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I said it to a friend yesterday - this is Obama's opening. It's not that I'm happy that Lehman failed and Merrill got bought and AIG is in deep do-do. But give de-regulation and the Bush economic policies, these things were bound to happen. This give Obama the opportunity to focus on the issues and on the Dems strong point with voters - the economy. And as an added bonus, McCain gave them a little gift yesterday with his "fundamentals are strong" line.

The economy isn't going to turn around in 2 months. This should and like WILL be the top issue in the political world until the election. If the Obama campaign can't convince the American people that he and the Dems are the folks best suited and equipped to lead our nation out of this mess, then the Obama team isn't as good or as sharp and I thought they were. So far, so good. But Obama's playing catch up now. And the time left is a double-edged sword - hard to keep voters focused on a single issue for 2 months but also not a lot of time left to make up lost ground.

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I firmly believe world markets will settle down with Obama as Presidential winner. Even before he's inaugurated, the world will heave a huge sigh of relief!

"John McCain cannot be trusted." Lather, rinse, repeat. And repeat, and repeat.

Obama was on fire today...Dang, he went after McCain and tied the economic crisis on his neck.

Obama basically call McCain out on his bull sh**t populist message. If the media failed to call McCain out on his Washington double speak. Obama did just that today. He laid out his argument in a clear way and indicates what he has been saying for the past 2 year about the state of our financial economy.

Since the media are only interested in lipstick, perhaps, they should be feeling guilty for not ringing the bell when American people needed them.

Where's the video, Greg?

Yeah! I wanna see if I'm in it!

My opponent doesn't want you to know this, but under my plan, tax rates will actually be less than they were under Ronald Reagan.

That actually is the key line appealing to centrists, Independents and Reagan democrats. It's a solid speech with substance and style.

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Horrible policy, but appealing nevertheless.

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Such a great way to call attention to the policy and the fact that the opposition is bothered by it!

I just love how Obama frames things!

And I like the mention of the S&L crisis. That's a warning shot over the bow if ever there was one.

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John McCain is going to tax your health benefits! Please say it in an ad! I've now read three op-eds (Kinsley, Herbert, DeLong) and have seen an SEIU commercial but nothing from Obama.

"McCain is lying when he says he is going to lower your taxes because the first thing he wants to do is tax your health benefits, which will cost your thousands of dollars. I guess he doesn't think you're paying enough already."

Please say it!

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P.S. It will also operate as a tax on your EMPLOYER whose recourse will be to fire you or drop your coverage. So much for not wanting to hurt job creation!

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Now that it's already simmering, they can do the ad so easily.

we're talking a systemic financial crisis, which is in fact much worse than the problems caused by 9/11. You need to learn the difference between a financial crisis and a national security crisis.

Let's expose Phil Gramm's culpability in our current wall street crisis.
It's our responsibility to get MSM's attention on Gramm's anti regulation legislation.
He bears a huge responsibility for not only the collape of Enron, but the situation wall street is in today, due to the anti regulatory legislation he pushed through years ago.
And he's not only McCain's economic advisor, he could end up in McCain's cabinet if he wins. :0
I'd like to see McCain, and better yet Palin, explain how they justify taking that man's advice on the economy.

more here --
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

I agree they really need to expose Gramm as a key figure in this whole mess and then point out that he is McCain's top economic adviser.

It will go like this: "He has a PhD in economics and was a professor at Texas A&M University. If you can't trust a smart guy like an economics professor at a good, old-fashioned American school like TAMU, who can you trust?"

Of course, it's all bullshit, as some of my old economics professors never knew Thing One about how the world *really* works, but a lot of people will buy it.

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It's the economy, Granddad.

Hey John McCain: Its the economy stupid, not the stupid economy!

Monday morning McCain says the economy "is strong"

Monday afternoon McCain says what he meant was the American worker "was strong"

Today McCain calls for a commission to study the economy.

I guess he just wants to know, is it strong or not?

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This speech is a thing of beauty. It is poetry and sustenance to a public yearning for hope, honest analysis, and realistic solutions which are designed for the common good and the interests of all Americans.

God, I love this guy!

Ditto, as someone else said to me! (Seems like a great way to capture the sentiment)...

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McCain is down to a one point lead in Gallup and Ras - within the week we should be back to pre-conventions levels with Obama up by one to three. Let's see how the state polls stabilize in the next week or two before the first debate.

Just to let you all know how well organized the McCain camp is. I just got a message from the McCain team telling me to register to vote and vote McCain -Palin in November in the state of Pennsylvania.
All well and good you may say except I live in Northern California. Bit like Alaska being next to Russia perhaps?

Are you sure it's a mistake? May be part of the Repugs' "Vote Early and Vote Often" initiative.

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They're doing that in WI. Mailing people forms to fill out to get an absentee ballot and telling them to mail the forms to the wrong city!

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In the debates, Obama will be able to jab at McCain for his lack of support for real federal gov't regulation of the economy, tie in Gramm and Fiorina, while calling for a robust overhaul of the way Wall Street does business. This should be a big advantage.

McCain is nothing but Hoover redux - voluntarism and pie in the sky obliviousness.

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McCain called himself "the deregulator".

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Oh, and it's kinda nice that the economic mess has revealed the fallacious sophistry of postpartisan politics.

No one would now dare deny that we need to tie the Republicans to their bankrupt laissez-faire, trickle-down, supply-sided philosophy up and down every ticket across the country, would they?

YAHOO! Slam dunk, no stone left uncovered...keep it up Obama..supporters, if you are happy, prove it by sending in your donations....I am broke this week, so $50 will have to do!!!!

--and here I thought Biden was going to be only one punching the snout out of this "lipsticked pig"...jajajajaja

Obama/Biden08

These are the real culprits in this financial 'crisis'.

The Senate Banking Committee

Christopher J. Dodd Chairman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD),Jack Reed (D-RI), Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), Evan Bayh (D-IN), Tom Carper (D-DE), Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Robert P. Casey (D-PA) and Jon Tester (D-MT)

We elected these democrats to serve our interests and they just sat on their hands.

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So, tell me.
Is there a reason you neglected to mention that the Senate Banking Committee has 10 Republican members?

I think McCain is starting to forget what he's for and what he's against. He seems like he has a dark cloud hanging over his head and not acting like someone who is up in the polls. Are we about to have a September surprise?

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From the New York Times:

"Mr. McCain was quick on Monday to issue a statement calling for “major reform” to “replace the outdated and ineffective patchwork quilt of regulatory oversight in Washington and bring transparency and accountability to Wall Street.”

My memory is not as good as it used to be, but didn't W say pretty much the same in 2000???

Or was it Reagan in 1980?

I used to work for a governmental securities enforcement agency. The securities laws have not materially changed, in like forever...except to let banks and insurance companies get into the business of selling speculation.

The critical factor is that the gap between investigatory resources and the universe of misconduct is greater than ever. Guess what, the gap is intentional on the part of our administrations (I don't think the Clinton administration did anything to help narrow this gap either).

What cracks me up about McCain is this quote I lifted from an article I put together a while back,

"I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers."

McCain doesn't have a clue about anything. This is Gramm's mentality shining through, his let them eat cake and fiddle while the market burns attitude to market re-adjustments.

You can bet that if this grumpy old man gets into office, and we face another downturn, Gramm will be hounding him to not bail out anyone to allow the markets to re-adjust and we'll have The Great Depression 2.0.

Thank GOD there are only Democrats on the Senate Banking Committee, BKinDaHouse (Snark).

And let's not forget it's only been two years that we have been in control of Congress. This is a Disaster that has been brewing for 15 years. And who controlled Congress from 1994 until 2007? Hmmmm Repukelicans.

More like BKinDaNutHouse.

Do the facts make your head hurt? Because you seem to avoid them like the plague.

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This is a wonderful speech. Wonderful. Loaded with specifics, both past and future. Loaded with substance. He gets what is going on, and he will hammer it all home over the next seven weeks.

Bk is a boring and tired oxygen thief plant. If he is from Brooklyn then I am from Mars via the planet Zircon. Hopefully his rebuttal will contain some careful googles of Brooklyn so he can back up his "cred"

Really good speech. And glad that Obama is finally back to giving good speeches, not just speeches of a vision but also speeches of substance.

"Trickled-down economics resulting in trickled-up pain" --- that will be a good line worth repeating over and over again.

Glad also that his speech also includes what he has done to reform the broken system. He should run follow-up ads that showcase all those reform credentials.

In a future speech, he might want to spend a bit more time talking about the good Clinton years and contrast them with the years under the two Bushes. He might want to drive home the point that it takes a Democrat to fix the Bush fiasco.

Hey all, first-timer here.
Does anyone know if video of the speech is up anywhere yet? My Google search got me nowhere.
TIA,
Jeff

Welcome aboard. I generally can go to CSPAN and find his speeches. Maybe that will work.

Thanks, Amelie. You were right.
FYI- It's listed under 'Recent Programs'.
http://www.c-span.org/

I am happy to see Sarah Palin's newest waste of money is under Yahoo's most viewed stories.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080916/ap_on_el_pr/palin_bridge_to_wasilla

The Obama camp needs to get out more ads pulling in McCain's past quotes on knowing nothing about the economy and dialing into this part of the NYTimes piece:

While Mr. McCain has cited the need for additional oversight when it comes to specific situations, like the mortgage problems behind the current shocks on Wall Street, he has consistently characterized himself as fundamentally a deregulator and he has no history prior to the presidential campaign of advocating steps to tighten standards on investment firms.

He has often taken his lead on financial issues from two outspoken advocates of free market approaches, former Senator Phil Gramm and Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman. Individuals associated with Merrill Lynch, which sold itself to Bank of America in the market upheaval of the past weekend, have given his presidential campaign nearly $300,000, making them Mr. McCain’s largest contributor, collectively.

He really needs to dial in on that, and draw Gramm back into the mud by pointing out this is the man McCain wants to make Secretary of Treasury - a guy who created the mess with the mortgage industry and thinks we're all whinners because the value of our houses are going in the tank.

Is the last a bit of a stretch?

To a degree, since Gramm was more general in terms of painting the whinner brush. But if you scratch much on it, that is the issue that people are complaining/worried about.

Also it boxes McCain into saying that Gramm won't have a role in his Admin, which we all know won't be the case.

John

There is clear and straight line from the credit/economic crisis to John Mcain.

McCain voted Yea for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999.

Gramm is his chief economic advisor.

Gramm is a well known bank lobbyist.

WTF else is there to talk about. McCain in office will turnover all economic policy decisions to Gramm. This is a no fucking brainer.


So much for only being good at "soaring rhetoric".

I thought it was great that he listed so many different times ringing the alarm bell, trying to intervene, seeing that there was a problem looming before others saw it (or, more accurately, while others chose to ignore it).

More please, Mr. Obama.

You know what "they" say (and I heard this from Carville, whom I usually don't dig): "When your oponent is drowning, throw him [or her] an anchor!"

Who's a "candidate zero" now, GoOPers?

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Check out mcsenile's grilling this morning on Morning Joe (entire interview at Huffington) - Don't think he'll be chatting with them again. There's great material in here for Obama to use.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/16/mccain-gets-testy-on-morn_n_126773.html

mcsenile just looked more and more puzzled and aggravated.

He was also asked (by Mike): "Isn't how a candidate conducts their campaign an indication of how they will run the country?"

He admits, as former Chairman of the Commerce Committee, he has been involved in these issues - It's like he's admitting guilt - irresonsibility and negligence.

One last thing - "Crawfish John" McCain keeps backswimming on his "fundamentals of the economy" talk. We all know this, presumably, but to review:

What he meant to say, of course, was that the workers are the fundamentals of the economy, and those workers are strong.

Taking McCain at his word (it's ill-advised, but bear with me), how have those strong workers fared over the last seven years? Where have their jobs gone? Who has benefitted at their collective expense?

Nice avatar--"You are what you is."

Too true about the workers: Needs to be driven home in MI, OH, and PA. "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"

cheers,

DD

I meant Mika Brzezinski, not Mike. So sorry.

Can't wait for tomorrow mornings ads, and more idiotic comments from mcsenile.

Blah, blah, blah, stock market up 141 today.

It will be higher by election day.

Net: Huge Obama fuckup. McCain has faith in America.

blah blah blah stock market is only one of many "fundamental" measures of the economy. There are still unemployment, deficits of all kinds, wages, inflation, etc.- all not likely improve substantially by November.

Net: still McSame on election day.

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McCain and his 9/11 commission proposal to fix the economy was another stupid thing he said.

I liked the fact that Obama hit him hard and said that it takes leadership and Obam released his own proposals.

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McCain and his 9/11 commission proposal to fix the economy was another stupid thing he said.

I liked the fact that Obama hit him hard and said that it takes leadership and Obam released his own proposals.

Actually it is the prudent thing to do if you confess to having no clue about the economy. But yes, I think McSame is going for "lead-by-committee-in-times-of-historic-crisis"

You have to keep hitting a guy when he says something as dumb as this. Maybe swap in the "seven houses" zinger too, for variety.

He said the fundamentals of the economy rest with the productivity of our workers - Then why aren't they working??? What does he think the unemployment rate is - I dare someone to even ask him. There is so much new ammunition for Obama to hit him hard on in just the few minutes of interviews mcsenile gave on the morning shows.

You all don't understand the meaning of "the fundamentals of the economy are strong." What McInsane means is that "you extremely rich people out there will be fine. You are insulated from these swings because you have massive wealth in cash and offshore accounts."

The "fundamentals of the economy rests with the productivity of our workers" means that when income is steady and you can have massive layoffs, then productivity, as it is currently measured, goes way up along with profits. So productivity rests with workers [losing their jobs].

Y'all gotta learn to speak Republican.

Now this is what I call More Cowbell!!!

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