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Obama Hits McCain And Palin On Change

On the trail today in Flint, Michigan, Obama tees off on both McCain and Palin, pointing out that the McCain campaign's promises of reform ring hollow given the multitudes of lobbyists working for the Arizona Senator...

Obama also directly targets Palin on the Bridge to Nowhere, suggesting that whatever "wait and see" posture Obama advisers had planned with regard to Palin has been scrapped.

"You can't just make stuff up," Obama says, perhaps optimistically. "The American people aren't stupid."

The build-up towards the end suggests that in the days ahead Obama will be directly engaging the McCain campaign's efforts to steal Obama's "change" mantra, battling it out on the Illinois Senator's rhetorical turf.


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Put it in an ad!

More, baby, more!!!

Ummm, Greg? I'm pretty sure it's "Obama" and not "Omama". I know it's just a typo but hearkens back to bad "yo mama" jokes.

Fortunately, Obama's not the source of the baby mama drama.

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smashing Barack and Joe's names together either gets you O'Biden or Jobama; Jobama has a better ring to it

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Obama also directly targets Palin on the Bridge to Nowhere, suggesting that whatever "wait and see" posture Obama advisers had planned with regard to Palin has been scrapped.

"You can't just make stuff up," Omama says, perhaps optimistically. "The American people aren't stupid.

And I just got off the phone with my dearest friend from whom I had not heard for months - '

My whole life just turned around.

There's no way in hell the weirdest ticket of all time: PrinceAncient and Cindersarah - are winning this election. No way in hell.

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It would be nice to see the Obama camp not allow McCain to co-opt their campaign slogan. Just sayin.

Here you go!

“She was for it until everybody started raising a fuss about it and she started running for governor and then suddenly she was against it!”

“I mean you can’t just make stuff up. You can’t just recreate yourself. You can’t just reinvent yourself. The American people aren’t stupid.”

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I can't click on the link for a variety of reasons, but what was the crowd reaction?

On fire when he closed.

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Thanks. Hope it gets replayed over and over on local Michigan news.

I love this guy. That clip rocks.

Put it in an ad, I agree. Put it in an ad, and I'll send more money I can't afford. Just for Christ's sake, keep broadcasting that to every corner of the US.

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I love him too.

More Obama, less Cindersarah.

This is just warm up practice.

He needs to tweak that. She was actually for it WHILE she was running for govenor and then against it later after being elected.

Dude, she was never against it. Congress pulled the plug on its funding, and then she decided to, rather than return the money for this no longer viable project, build a road to nowhere instead.

You can't be against something that doesn't exist. She was balls out lying, and kept repeating the lie after it had been shown to be a lie, and deserves no slack at all on this.

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Congress pulled the plug on its funding, and then she decided to, rather than return the money for this no longer viable project, build a road to nowhere instead

Yes. The "I said no thanks to Congress" line is a blatant lie. She said "Thanks, I'll keep that cash, and we'll do something else with it".

Hardly the reformer we can believe in.

Feel free to throw in Alaska's $258 million in earmark requests for this fiscal year.

Just to clarify, she did ultimately abandon the bridge after Congress stripped the funding, but kept the money for other purposes. She did build the road to no where, because if she didn't she would have had to return the $25MM Congress had appropriate for it. So there is a 3.2 mile road that leads to the waters edge and stops. What a reformer.

I'd like to see that road in an ad.

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It would be useful to talk about the "Road to Nowhere" that Sarah Palin did support.

The access road that led to where the bridge would have been built was still constructed, even though it leads to a deserted beach. Why? Because the Federal funds (> $60M?)available to build the road couldn't be shifted to other pork barrel projects.

It was use it or lose it, and so Palin decided to waste it.

Yeah, going after the VP candidate isn't typical but in this case it's the best way to lay the foundation for going after McCain's judgment. If they can convince the American people she's not ready, she's unfit, then they can gut McCain.

Pufferfish

I don't see it so much as he was going after her as he was going after their arguments for change. They have aggressively pushed this Bridge to Nowhere bullshit as their main claim to her mantle of change (that and challenging Ted Stevens on earmarks).

Obviously Joe should be tearing into McCain's backside a little more, but I'm not complaining when Obama latches on to the fallacy of their change argument.

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Change and Reform - her deal is Queen Reform and the Bridge to Nowhere ain't reform; the earmarks, the lobbyists - she's actually the anti-reform candidate. They both are.

It's also pretty optimistic to suggest that the American people aren't stupid. All evidence points to the contrary.

That's why I could never run for president. Anyone who's stump speech included the words "f*ckin' morons" probably wouldn't get very far.

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All evidence except: Commander CooCoo Bananas' approval ratings; the election results in 2006; the polling that shows and has shown for at least 2 years that close to 80% of Americans now know the Iraq War was a mistake; the incredible record-breaking amount of money the Obama Campaign has raised - so far...


That line is old and stale.

It might be "old and stale," but that doesn't change its accuracy. Despite all the positive developments you named, Americans as a whole are in the process of showing that not only have they not learned anything from the last eight years...they've gotten dumber.

Maybe you CAN fool enough of the people all of the time.

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Well who died and make you Brainiac? You want to back that bullshit up with some real data, please?

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You mean that poll that has 40% Republicans to 29% Democrats? That's a 20% swing and not a representative sample since there are way more Democrats today than Republicans.

Here in NC, since January, 2008, we have added 175,000 more Democrats to the rolls compared to 20,000 more republicans. In 28 states that register by party, there are 2 million more Democrats and 350,000 FEWER republicans than two years ago. So, again, that party breakdown used in that poll is a joke.

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Thanks.

Not only that, but the Democrats have registered over 2,000,000 new Democratic voters. In the same states where we registered those voters, the GOP lost over 600,000 registered Repug voters.

I don't dispute voter registration numbers or that Obama has a vastly superior ground game to McCain. I'm arguing that the American people, as a whole, aren't that smart. From creationism to foreign policy to health care to energy issues to the Supreme Court, if they had learned anything from the past eight years, this would be a blowout. It's not, and it's unlikely to become one.

So either the Obama campaign has been ineffective at framing the issues or people just don't get it. I actually think it's the latter. You may not agree.

I hope Obama wins, and I hope that the registration/turnout efforts offset the fact that this election is much closer than it should be. I'm just not convinced that we've had much structural change during the Bush disaster. John McCain has been lying through his teeth for weeks, flip-flopping on issues left and right, impugning Obama's character, service and patriotism. And all he has to show for it is...the lead.

If McCain wins and his first line is, "that's education we can believe in." I will faint. The dumbing down of America is alive and well.

Sarah Palin is the average american, she doesn't know the difference between Freddie Mac and freddie got fingered.

Am I in the minority to think I don't want an average american to be my president? I don't want to have a beer with my president. If they have time to have a beer with me, what the hell are they doing that for?

If I can outwit the potential VP, this world is f*cked.

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I was thinking Freddie Mac and Freddie Prince.

Freddy's dead, doo doo de doo de doo.

Whether its optimistic or not, I think "the American people aren't stupid" is a good campaign line... No one likes to be made a fool of, and the Republican strategy is to fool the public into buying this new made-up persona.

He needs to call attention to McSellout's appropriation of the "Change" mantle by throwing a little "straight talk" back at them.

Their little Princess is gonna lose a little sleep very soon.

For those who are impatient, Obama needs to save some of the zingers for the debates.

McCalin's Message:

Hire the Republicans

to Clean Up the Mess

Made by the Republicans.

Obama feed those Republicans their own kibble.

feeds

I know this sounds crass, but the essence of effective marketing is distillation.

The arguments here are very clear. DO NOT muddle them with ANYTHING extraneous.

Obama's got the message just not the platform to deliver the goods.

Interesting.

Also interesting that the Democrats in Alaska deleted a webpage where they actually credit Palin with killing the bridge to nowhere...

http://senateconservatives.com/2008/09/08/alaska-democrats-pull-web-page-crediting-palin-for-killing-bridge-to-nowhere/

I guess it's not only Obama that's going to get hit over this in some mccain commercial but the state democrats too.

And no, there's no point talking about economy, last week's jobless report, all that stuff. Let's take down Palin, because the election now depends on Palin.

Fuckin idiots.

You sound upset. Is there something we can do to help you with that lump on your head?

Yes, there is. Maybe you could remind Obama that he's not running against Palin. She's a VP candidate.

Tell that to McCain.

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Obama's response: she "officially abandoned" it after it got too much criticism, and kept the cash, anyway, to build a road to nowhere.

Sorry. "Bridge to nowhere" and "Can't answer how many houses he owns" are easy to understand phrases.

Is Sarah Palin a Manchurian candidate infiltrating the Republicans?

The Alaska Independence Party, a fringe anti-America secessionist group with terrorism links, has this to say:

“Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected. There’s a joke, she’s a pretty good looking gal, there’s a joke goes around we’re the coldest state with the hottest governor. (laughter) And there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town — that was a non-partisan job. But to get along and go along — she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership.“


http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/palin-republican-party-infiltrator-damning-video/


What are the terrorism links? If there are any, some solid evidence would strengthen this accusation.

I picture those people as Michigan Militia types, so I don't doubt it. It's just that suspicions won't go far.

barackarate!!!

Actually, for all the worrying and thinking he only now addressed this, he did a similar speech over the weekend in Indiana. So he is responding. In fact, if you didn't hear it, you should. I actually think that version was better, a little more fiery...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSmn25rvQRo

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While Americans may not be stupid, Obama still needs to spell it out for the idiots:

Republicans lie. Republicans steal.

McCain and Palin are both Republicans . . . no matter how many times they pretend to not be Republicans.

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I have no problem with his spelling it out and hammering on it over and over and over.

Americans also do not as a whole obsess about this shit like we do - it's not like they all hear it over and over -

Awesome!

I don't know how many of you have seen this already, but it's McCain's defense of the Bridge to Nowhere lies:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/McCain_defends_Palin_on_Bridge_to_Nowhere.html?

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O I see he is speaking for her.

These awesome displays of Feminism are almost more than I can take.

Well, Ms. Palin doesn't want to do those pesky interviews with the press. He has to speak for her.

She's still trying to learn all those things she didn't know that she didn't know.

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Of course. And in the meantime, while the Moose Princess studies up, Big Daddy McLame is anxiously watching over his protege and putting up one stone wall after another between the Future Vice President Who Is Too Ready, Dammit! and the people they expect to vote for her.


And yes they can make shit up - but lies catch up with crushing inevitability.

If you don't believe that, try living one yourself for awhile and see what happens.

If he's stonewalling now, wait until he gets into the White House.

Subpeonas--we're mavericks, that won't work on us.
Press conferences--talk to the liberal media, not going to do it.

These guys are going to make the Bush Cheney years look like the age of enlightenment.

yes, once she learned about earmarks, she was against them. What a pathetic response. Of course, she returned the money she received for the bridge, right? Ha!

Ms Palin seems to be against her policies before she was for them. Or for her policies before she was against them?


The big significant development is that McCain is in response mode on this topic. He on the defensive (and giving lame answers). They painted themselves in the corner. I think there was a bit of a wait because had they attacked right away McPalin could have just said he/she misspoke. But now Obama has them with an ad making the same claim they have said from the podium.

Oh, let's keep this message going!

Senator Obama: If I may make a suggestion for your tv ads.

Hire this man- Steve Eichenbaum, of Milwaukee, WI's Eichenbaum /Associates'

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=726589

http://www.russfeingold.org/multimedia.php (scroll to vintage ads at the bottom of the page)

Now that's advertising that I can believe in. Great stuff- witty, funny, the type of ads you talk to your neighbors, family, and friends about. They are catchy. Eichenbaum loves underdogs and outsiders and plays well off of them. Watch and learn.

Hire Eichenbaum, Obama Campaign!

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Send them an e-mail and call them! That guy's good - thanks for the link.

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Put this on the front page!!

Obama is on fire when he closes!!!

"The American people aren't stupid."

We can only hope. I'm starting to have my doubts.

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whatever.

Personally, I got over my megalomania when I got out of college.

Too bad you didn't get over your other mental problems.

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are you sure?

I can't blame the American people. It's the cowardly mainstream press that just buys into the right wing talking points.

They won't challenge them, because the right wing will get mad and call them biased. Pathetic.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080908/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobama_080908194952;_ylt=Ai.QEUr_024A6Q5alMXxAQ1h24cA

The AP article (link above) notes he used this line of attack, which is effective, which is very similar to yesterday's Tom Tole's cartoon:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/toles_main.html?name=Toles&date=09052008&type=c

The Democratic Strategist team also feels this is a nice line of attack:

http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2008/09/original_mavericks.php

"You can't just make stuff up"

Unfortunately, I beg to differ on this point. The Republicans can, and do, make stuff up and get away with it. I am with kos on this one (see his frontpage post now) -- the Dems can't afford to call "foul" and hope that does the trick.

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I answered this above, but I'll say this again - yes they can make shit up. But anyone who has ever tried to live a lie can tell you this and I know we all know it: lies catch up - with crushing inevitability.

The thing is, we need them to catch up BEFORE the election.

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I wish I could edit my last post, but here is the line of attack I left out, which is similar to the Tom Tole's cartoon:

"And when John McCain with a straight face says 'I'm going to change things,' at the same time as he says he's agreed with (President) George Bush 90 percent of the time, you know it's pretty hard to believe."

Obama mocked the McCain-Palin platform in summary: "Except for economic policy, tax policy, healthcare policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove politics, we're really going to shake things up in Washington."


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Oooo I loves it I loves it I loves it!!!

Actually, they CAN just make stuff up. They just did. They're gonna keep on doing it. All courtesy of the media, who's business now is to ask questions, and not report the truth.

Per your other headline, and apologies to Puzo:

Palin: "Leave the bridge. Take the federal funds."

very good!

I second DoubleCola. That is a good caption.

I'm thrilled by this. If Obama wants to win he has to keep doing this, and MORE of it, and get his surrogates to make the same arguments. AND he needs to, as he did, keep hitting McCain/Palin for lying. And call it what it is. Nicely done, keep it coming!

I M ABSOLUTELY FED UP OF OBAMA ATTACKING FROM A DEFENSIVE POSITION... AND EVEN THEN, HE STARTS BY COMPLIMENTING MCCAIN'S MILITARY SERVICE... IN A LOT OF PEOPLE'S EYES, THAT'S WEAK! WEAK! WEAK!...

You're right. There is no longer a need to thank John McCain for this service. It's a now a given.
And to keep refering to it just drowns out Obama's message.

Sarah palin is lying to the nation.

You need to change your text on the front page. You are quoting Obama saying "The American people ARE stupid."

If you don't change it, McCain & Palin are gonna run with it.

Hey Greg,

Theres a typo on the homepage for this blog post: it says "Americans are stupid" and on the TPMEC blog post, it quotes Obama as saying, "The American people aren't stupid".

THANKS!

The MSM will never care for the truth. We should put liar every time we put there name like, John(liar)/Sarah(liar).

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There's also a new poll that Josh put up showing Obama back in front of McLame by a point. It's ABC/WaPo

From The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder:

A new Obama ad out tonight calls out both John McCain and Sarah Palin....with McCain's sin being that he votes often with President Bush and Palin's sin being that she flip-flopped on the Bridge to Nowhere.

Stay tuned...

McCain-Palin'08: A bridge to nowhere

Rendell on Palin:

"She [claims to be] a reformer," said the Pennsylvania Democrat. "And yet she is being investigated on the charge that she used her power as governor to fire someone who was going through a messy divorce with a relative of hers. Could you imagine if I was doing the same thing in Pennsylvania? You would be calling for my impeachment."

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"[The McCain camp] has tried to again obscure the facts about Gov. Palin. 'She is a reformer and against earmarks.' No she isn't, when she was mayor of that town she hired a lobbyist to get earmarks... 'She was against the bridge to nowhere.' No she wasn't. She was for the bridge to nowhere first... She is a budget balancer. But she left the town in greater debt then when she became mayor, so she is not a budget balancer."

He also went on to point out the inconsistency in the criticism of Kaine's experience and praise of Palin's. Nice to see him being blunt with an objective in mind.

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Woo Hoo!

'Alright. They are going to town. They aren't just going to let it sit there and grow.


Rendall can be an asset in the right situation and this is the right situation. Having him go after McPalin in PA is a major bonus at this time. The people in PA will listen to him before they believe McPalin.

This is how the story reads on the TPM website"
""You can't just reinvent yourself," Obama said in Michigan today of McCain's attempt to adopt the "change" mantra. "The American people are stupid."

I think this is a typo or Josh Marshall wants to get lots of hits from a Drudge link "Loony left blogger says Americans are stupid".

It's been fixed already.

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McCain and Palin are using the Bridge to Nowhere lie because they found out it worked in a focus group to people that otherwise had a neutral opinion of her. Why on earth Obama is not running ads exposing the lie is beyond me.

They could actually start a great narrative about her as a bullshit artist who likes to tell tall tales about the big a fish she caught [arms growing apart exaggerating], the big buck she saw/missed, etc. That shit WILL play from where I'm from in Wisconsin. Low information voter would eat it up.

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There is no religious test for a person being qualified for President. But, the Repubs have tried to tie Obama to Islam, and to Rev. Wright's inflamatory remarks in a few sermons, so the gloves have to come off, and Sarah Palin's and McCain's religions are also in play.

CNN just showed a piece from Alaska describing Palin's lifelong church, a Pentacostal denomination far out of the mainstream in this country. Ms Palin is even shown "preaching" to the church congregation a couple of months ago, so there can be no doubt that this is her church. Sarah's problems with speaking to the press are much more explainable now - she speaks in tongues and only God understands what she means.

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Go for it.

I agree completely. They opened the door for it.

I agree with HyperRevue up above that the clip is beautiful. It should be in an ad. Incidentally, did anyone here the piece in All Things Considered this afternoon about Clinton in Florida. She was brilliant as well. She had a great line to the effect that, despite his fine speech at the convention about turning this country around, electing John McCain to clean up the mess of the last 8 years is like electing the iceberg to repair the Titanic. I thought that was a great line and would love to see it get some more uses (although not as many as the above clip; even a good joke gets stale with repetition).

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Yay Hillary.

Yeah someone else said her speech was brilliant. She's going to campaign with her whole heart, I think. I know at least one person around here doesn't agree, but I do believe that.

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Honestly, I need to meditate more or do some yoga or something before the next two months kills me. What a roller coaster! I see the Gallop poll that had Obama down and I'm freaking out and then I take some breaths and think it'll be OK and before even the end of the day new polls show that the race is more likely tied nationally and all of the battle ground states are still battleground states and then I see this video and I'm back on my Obama will get at least 350 electoral votes kick.

He needs to take it to them. They are lying left and right and getting away with it. Enough of the press will come along if he gets the right messages out there.

Think Progress has a counter of the number of times that they have used the Bridge to Nowhere lie: Upto to 19 - based on referenced ads, stump speeches and surrogates.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/08/lies-nowhere/

Check out of the documented instances and see if you can add to it.

This is something that Obama and company can keep hammering away on even if they admit their blunder because it goes to the core of their argument about being the "orginal mavericks."

On a positive note, at least he finally used the L word (lie).

They've been doing it since May, so it's about damn time.

Obama is not a fighter, because he has never had to fight. Research how he became a state senator and a US senator. Hillary was cursed out for even trying to state their differences. You can't protect him from the republicans. They know how to fight and they will never surrender. His arguments are so weak. She has been putting one liners on him since she was announced. He babbles and barely gets his point out. This is why democrats can't win the presidency. They always pick a loser.

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When's the last election Sen. McCain had that was competitive?

This is not at all helpful. At this point, please wait until after the election to play woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Don't. Feed. The. Trolls.

What is the per capita income in earmarks that Sarah P brought to Wasilla? If there were 8,000 souls in Wasilla, then for each million she brought in they got $125/per person. She might have had the highest per capita earmark income of any city in America!

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Exactly. When I heard earlier today that Sen. Obama was responsible for $1B of earmarks to Illinois, as a resident of the state, I thought to myself, "Surely he's doing better than that!" $24 per person per year? I guess Sen. Durbin's bringing home the money for us, since each citizen is paying thousands of dollars a year in taxes and it'd be nice to get more than $24 of it back to our state. Heh heh.

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What happened to the Anne Kilkenny letter? I thought that would make more of a splash.

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