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Obama Campaign: New McCain Ad Is "Lie"
Here's the response, from Obama spokesperson Bill Burton, to McCain's new ad falsely claiming that Sarah Palin blocked the Bridge to Nowhere:
"Despite being discredited over and over again by numerous news organizations, the McCain campaign continues to repeat the lie that Sarah Palin stopped the Bridge to Nowhere. John McCain has voted with George Bush 90% of the time and he and Sarah Palin will continue Bush's economic policies, his health care policy, his education policy, his energy policy, and his foreign policy. McCain and Palin will say or do anything to make people believe that they will change something besides the person sitting in the Oval Office. That's the kind of politics people are tired of, and it's anything but change."
It's good to see the L-word alive and well. The question remains whether the same news orgs that debunked the original Bridge to Nowhere falsehood will aggressively stay on McCain and hold him accountable every time he and his campaign repeat it.
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NICE!
Finally a punch thrown by the Obama camp.
September 8, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but who's going to see it? It needs to be highlighted in a major national ad so that it gets some attention. The MSM will never push Burton's statement beyond one or two mentions today.
September 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
EXACTLY!
September 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you! This is exactly true. What good is a treasury of campaign money if you're not going to spend it on effective ads?
September 8, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would be really nice if they have Palin on tape telling the people of Kotzebue that they are "somewhere" to her. Add to that a laundry list of how she spent the nearly thirty million dollars received by Alaska but meant for that bridge that wasn't built. She managed to burn through it somehow.
It seems lipstick is being applied to something - but it ain't a soccer mom and it ain't a pitbull - it smells like pork.
September 8, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ketchikan, not Kotzebue.
I'm having a hell of a time with the server. It's affecting my cognition, obviously.
September 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've tried to post this correction but can't seem to get past the server:
It's Ketchikan, not Kotzebue.
September 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just as an aside, I've noticed that statements from the campagin about McCain ads often telegraph the tone and content of ads that we'll be seeing in the next three to five days.
September 8, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, this time with grammer.
I've noticed that statements from the Obama campagin about McCain ads often telegraph the tone and content of ads from Obama that we'll be seeing in the next three to five days.
September 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
And thank god. This response goes in two good directions:
#1: Lies, and the lying liars who tell them.
#2: It puts some content on "more of the same." More of the same X, more of the same Y, more of the same Z. It's definitely time to do that.
I hope you're right that this telegraphs the direction of ads soon to be released.
September 8, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
What sucks is that the Obama campaign shouldn't be the ones doing this. It should be the damn media. Fact checking is supposed to be their fucking job.
September 8, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Grammar? :)
September 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, less ambiguity.
September 8, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good. It's the only way to get the press to really push the McCain camp on what is obviously a lie. Nice job calling them out.
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September 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great. Now they need to get that into a commercial. Let people know that McCain/Palin have a problem distinguishing the truth from fiction.
September 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
EXACTLY. Has to be in an ad. Nobody but us pays attention to these campaign statements.
September 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's still defense. Offense would be releasing an ad shouting, "MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE LYING TO YOU AND THEY THINK YOU'RE AN IDIOT!" which is ultimately something I'd like to see.
September 8, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I concur. While I think I"m getting an incomplete picture, because I don't know which ads are showing where, I still feel that the Obama campaign has been too relaxed with respect to attacking McCain-Palin. Now that the conventions are fully behind us, maybe we'll see more attacks.
I don't want to nitpick Burton or anything, but is he capable of sending out a concise press release? Everything he sends out sounds like a run-on sentence.
contrast that with Tommy Vietor (I think that's his name) who sent out a press release that said "People who live in 8 glass houses shouldn't be questioning..."
September 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not really Obama's fault that his message isn't getting more traction. The media broadcasts every McCain talking point, and functions as a dessminator/reinforcer of McCain's message, while playing the factchecker/ skeptic as to Obama's.
Furthermore, yesterday, George Will and Jonathon Capeheart were giving McCain campaign advice on the Stephanopolous show.
The country may be ready for change, but the traditional and cable media still wants Republican rule. I'm tired of blaming Democrats for the fact that the media is actively promoting the Republican ticket while actively underming the Democratic one.
I don't have a solution. I just believe when the downfall of America is written into history, the corporate media will (or should) take a huge share of the blame. All the Monday quarterbacking in the world won't help Obama/Biden, because the media is as determined to defeat them as the Republicans are.
September 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what negative ads are for.
Use em.
September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, yes, yes. Don't be afraid to call these people liars. Obama comes close to this with "You can't just make stuff up," but these are lies and should be labeled as such.
September 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where are the Obama ads?
Where are the millions going?
I haven't seen a hard punching ad by Obama on the economy in a LONG TIME.
September 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here in Indiana, seen Obama ads, no McCain ads.
September 8, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you live in a "battleground state"? I don't, and I don't see ads, period, outside of the ones broadcast during the Olympics.
September 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Won't be seeing any here in Texas either...
I suspect the tone of the ads will get sharper as we get closer to Nov.
September 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
They need to get sharper, NOW, not later, IMO.
The public is already primed to think of McCain as a "maverick". His choice of VP, while deeply troubling in what it reveals about his decision-making process, reinforces the maverickiness of the old maverick, regardless of how reality contradicts that.
September 8, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree and almost wrote something to that effect in my post...
Something along the lines of, "A Maverick doesn't vote 90% with Bush" and someone else here posted an idea of doing a "Lie no. 251-McCain says X when it really is Y".
I wonder if we haven't entered the "blood sport" part of the election.
September 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think most of their ads are targetted specifically to swing states. I see that you are in LA so you probably won't see too many ads.
September 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
We've had both McCain and Obama ads in just about every local spot here in Michigan.
September 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Same thing here in Ohio; Obama and McWar ads all the time.
September 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you don't live in a state that's in play, you are not going to see any ads, except possibly on cable stations. Money spent preaching to the converted is wasted. And, in any case, its not all being spent on ads. The national fight over national poll standings is is rather less than half the fight, though McPow thinks its the whole game.
September 8, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Woohoo! They _finally_ let loose the L-word! Tell it like it really is. When it's a lie, call it a lie.
That said, I wonder if the story is now going to shift to the fact that Burton used "lie" to characterize the McCain ad instead of discussing the content of the deception. I'll bet my lunch the focus is squarely on the form and completely skips the content.
September 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
To everyone complaining about inaction by Obama. Stop.
Obama does this all the time. Rope-and-dope.
September 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seconded.
September 8, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thirded.
September 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think they should really pound McCain with the L-word.
Call them "liars", call their new ad "more lies" from the people who have "lied to you for the past 8 years".
September 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's nice to say "lie," but it'd be better to start making Palin own the Bridge to Nowhere. Instead of saying "They're lying about her opposing the Bridge to Nowhere," say "Sarah Palin brought you the Bridge to Nowhere."
In fact, the Bridge to Nowhere is a great metaphor for her candidacy. Make her the Bridge to Nowhere candidate: "She'll take this country across a Bridge to Nowhere."
September 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
that's great. also palinoochio and mooselini. (both found on baloonjuice)
September 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Like that. McCain-Palin a Bridge to Nowhere.
September 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's nice to say "lie," but it'd be better to start making Palin own the Bridge to Nowhere. Instead of saying "They're lying about her opposing the Bridge to Nowhere," say "Sarah Palin brought you the Bridge to Nowhere."
In fact, she tried to bring you the Bridge to Nowhere, and failed.
The Bridge to Nowhere is a great metaphor for her candidacy. Make her the Bridge to Nowhere candidate: "She'll take this country across a Bridge to Nowhere."
September 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where do these statements go? Does anyone talk about them, or do they just disappear into the political ether?
Seems to me that Obama's got to take this message directly to voters, and not depend on the talking heads to mediate it.
September 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
My guess is that both Obama and Biden will bring it up in their stump speeches today. The interview with Gibson is coming up later this week. If they hammer it enough, then maybe it will force Gibson to ask her to explain how she was for it, before she was against it. (I can hope can't I?)
September 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM will not talk about the content at all. I'll bet my shorts (in addition to my already wagered lunch) all we see from this in the MSM is process crap about the fact that Burton said "lie". Not a word about the fact that McCain's campaign is LYING or what they're lying about.
September 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would love to be a fly on the wall at that Obama/Big Dog meeting...
September 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hammer meet Nail.
September 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Screw the MSM. They are not going to call McCain for his lies. The Obama campaign has to use some of its cash to make the case. Blanket the airwaves with commercials linking the lies to the message that McCain so disrespects American voters he is willing to lie to win an election.
September 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good to hear the l-word, but the boilerplate about "90%" and "change" is getting tiresome.
September 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
90% and change is not getting old, if it were McCain wouldn't be trying to steal Change.
We've got to get across; McCain's ticket is a Bush ticket. Going after them with the l-word is good.
September 8, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
But, but, but, I thought the reason we couldn't call obvious lies lies is that the world would end if we did.
Does the media know that we can call lies lies?
September 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
They need to hit hard over this. Tell a lie enough and people will believe it. That's the McCain strategy.
They don't care if it gets debunked in the media. For every time it gets debunked, they repeat it twice.
September 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, he's my 2 cents worth of campaign advice for the day.
How about an ad simply called "Lies"
Run a montage of statements by McCain, Palin, and Bush that are demonstrably false.
Start with Bush. Stick Palin in the middle, end with McCain.
Between each clip voiceover the word "lie".
In the final clip, get McCain calling himself a "maverick", and call it a lie.
Finish with a voiceover: We have been lied to for too long. It is time for change.
September 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
holy whoa, Mason. First time a comment here has actually given me chills. Brilliant.
September 8, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glad to contribute. Hopefully someone from the Obama campaign is lurking around here.
September 8, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad would be great!! does anyone HERE have the skills to create it and place it on youtube.com?
GREAT IDEA!!
September 8, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, Obama might think about honing his message and speaking style to more concise language. We have entered the true election season and long nuanced dissertations about policy are going to get lost, I'm afraid.
September 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk
Monday, September 08, 2008
Fear and the Result of Our Decisions: Media, Palin and Iraq
I recall keenly the days of the run-up to the Iraq war. How many journalists--including those I knew and admired--drew back from criticism of obvious gaps and flaws in the logic leading to the conflict; who, despite stories of critical importance for the future of the nation hanging before them, left them hanging in the group-reinforced fear that they would be accused of a lack of patriotism if they were to report them.
And so they were left to be reported long after--in books looking back at the clear issues, landmark errors, and trail of missed opportunities that has led to the fatal outcomes we now see before us.
The issues were there at the time. To be reported.
They were not.
Today, they are again being cowed, by an equally powerful fear of unnecessary intimidation and restraint, the consequences of which stretch far beyond those that we have seen in Iraq.
At a time when we are at war, the economy in shambles, when today Fannie and Freddie Mac are, for the first time in their history, in effect being nationalized, we are being swept by emotion and fear--career fear--into ignoring a situation that would likely send us tumbling into the unknown.
For the short-term fear that each journalist feels, in being perceived as "unpatriotic" to vague, manifest threats regarding gender--they fail to report issues that have nothing to do with gender: the preparedness of a candidate for Vice President of the United States, running alongside an elderly and chronically ill Presidential candidate.
Instead--just as in the run-up to Iraq--each is making the easier choice--to join the risk-averse chorus of personality pieces, each, in the same diffusion of responsibility that had such a major role in leading us into the war in Iraq, taking the route that leads away from fact, regardless of gender.
As in Iraq, reporting fact--regardless of pressure for a mindless conformity and silence--represented actual patriotism, providing the nation with the information it needed to make a reliable and authentic decision, so reporting the facts here--regardless of pressure for an unthinking conformity represents a true balance, a true equality, a true lack of bias.
This is a time of difficult decisions. However, those decisions--your decisions--matter. We have seen this.
Report it. Don't be cowed.
Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk
September 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
What exactly is the lie in regards to the Bridge to Nowhere?
The "She was before it, before she was against it" line of reasoning is flip-flopping not lying.
September 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
She said she said "thanks but no thanks" when what she actually said was, "Yes, I'll have some of that... What? Congress is mocking my state? Congress is going to kill the earmark? Okay, then we don't want the bridge, but we'll keep the money."
To say that she was against the bridge, or earmarks in general, is a lie.
September 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
we'll keep the money.
forgot about that. good point.
September 8, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
you're right. she only supported the boondoggle when the american taxpayer was picking up the tab.
September 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
The lie is this: "I told Congress thanks, but no thanks, to the Bridge to Nowhere" when, in fact, she told Congress "Give me the cash. Thanks for the cash."
September 8, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ummm...because she keeps saying that she blocked the Bridge to Nowhere when she really didn't.
It's really not that hard. Try and keep up.
September 8, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely Mason.
We've been lied to for 8yrs we cant take another 4 or go back to what worked against Hillary, They'll say anything to get elected... Either way they need to force this narrative down the MSM's throat to get them to stop this bullshit.
September 8, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Finally, the Obama campaign used the word ' lie.' McFallin lies about everything and the Obama team should start pointing that out. Stop playing nice with McCain and' bitch slap' the old man. I'm so tired of this 'oh..shucks' attitude from the democrats and the democratic ticket.
September 8, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate Obama because this man, Harvard educated nonwithstanding, has no class. This man shows no manner and continues calling Senator John McCain as John McCain and Presidnet Bush as George Bush. This liar is so ready calling other people liars. This despicable compaign was so ready to call anthing from Hillary compaign as lying. They are now doing the same thing to McCain.
Those low lives at Olibama compaign has no sense of decency. they are desperate! those people are ultimate whiners and you left-wing nutroots have only yourselves to blame. See how this despicable wannabe be so ready to throw your $ass under the bus, after his mom, his grandma, his paster?
You losers will always be losers!!!
September 8, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Plus Obama is a READER. Ya cant trust no READER . . .
Your inbreeding is showing . . .
September 8, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
My my my what a gurgling vomit THAT was...are you like that all over, or just in spots?
September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
A press statement is not going to cut it. They need ads that scream John McCain and Sarah Palin are pathological liars.
September 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see the lie--maybe a shift in position from campaign for governor and then as a sitting governor. But, should you want to compare lies, Obama has a very long list to compare against. McCain and Palin really don't have any, especially by comparison. Best you find a better line of attack.
September 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I don't see the lie--maybe a shift in position from campaign for governor and then as a sitting governor."
Of course you don't see this as a lie, you were born with the unfortunate douchebag gene - do you think any of us is really surprised?
"McCain and Palin really don't have any, especially by comparison. Best you find a better line of attack."
It seems that digesting too much of Larry Johnson's "special sauce" causes people to blatantly lie, regardless of how clumsily foolish they come across. By the way, is Larry's bitch-ass still challenging other bloggers to fights?
September 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
"my Muslim faith"
September 8, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
My "out of context smearing, douchebag Hillary dead-ender" fogu2
September 8, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
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September 8, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
really enlightened!
September 8, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Punches are good but not enough. For some, the fact that she lied doesn't matter. Why is she even being considered? She is not qualified nor did she want it in the first place, so what is it? She was drafted.
What I haven't heard so far is the obvious: it's not class wars it's race.
An average white woman against a harvard educated black man.
She is Mrs. C on Happy Days and he is Malcolm X reincarnated.
Obama needs to change if name, then his fucking skin color to get a fair shake.
Short of that he needs come clean with the average joe and say: "Listen, I know change is tough but after what we've been through what choice do any of us have? I don't want to change the constitution, I want to save it. I don't want to change our history, just our future. I don't want to change your lives to be different for sake of being different, I want your lives to be better. Better healthcare. Better schools. More ooportunities. And a safer world. That's the change I want.
Isn't that the change we all deserve? It's about us. It's about you.
I need your help. We have to help each other.
September 8, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember in the primaries Obama tried to make an issue of earmarks by challenging Clinton to release her earmark list.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/us/politics/14campaign.html?fta=y
September 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Use of the L-word is absolutely right and essential.
Beyond that, the Obama campaign and its surrogates need to start spreading this meme: John McCain and Sarah Palin think you're stupid. Their entire campaign is premised on the notion that the American people won't discover the lies they're telling -- the same lies Bush and Cheney have told for the last eight years. Vote for Obama and show them we're a hell of a lot smarter than they think.
September 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you have not seen this from the HU-PO, take a minute and do so. I don’t know when it became a major problem to state a fact as fact. Are the words LIER or LIERS out of bounds?
The people you’re trying to reach with the truth are the “Child left behind” group. The group that accepts, as the truth, anything that is repeated incessantly. With my background, the words leaving my mouth usually are “That’s a lie”! Or You’re a “lying S O B”!
Bring back the courage to properly label the lies. Just doing that will force debate on the subject.
LINK UP:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-almond/dear-barack-when-they-lie_b_124621.html
September 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Polls, schmolls.
Ads like this that speak truth to power, consistently, firmly, are one answer. Call the lie a lie.
Not addressing Sarah Palin directly is another.
We must not forget essential facts that have not changed in two weeks:
1. Obama still has the org. Many of these offices have been open so long, they are parts of their communities. McCain cannot clap his hands together and invent these things from nothing.
2. Obama stil has the money. He outraised the GOP 8:1 after the Palin Pick. This network isn't going anywhere.
3. Obama still has the voter registration advantage. This is due to hard work in each of the months Obama has been at this. Again, no magic wands for this McCain problem, either.
4. Obama supporters want it more. You can tell. The GOP cannot win this election without tearing down a decent man, much less the country. Obama is deliberately winning this election by not returning the favor.
5. In his speech, McCain essentially called for a reward of admitted electoral failure. We screwed it up so elect us. This can be driven home easily. It's not rocket science.
Obama will be the next President. When he says John McCain doesn't get it, boy he could not be more right, and on a number of fronts. Best not to alert McCain as to what they are.
Pax,
M.
September 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "Slacker Uprising" will decide who is our next prez!
Youth (18 - 25) against stuck in the mud mom and dad.
September 8, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
M Weaver -
Position shift? Like McCain on privatizing social security, immigration, gay adoption, the GI bill, keeping Russia in the G8, torture, wireless wiretapping, shifting resources to Afghanistan, a time-line for Iraq, abortion is case of rape or incest, agents of intolerance, Iraqis welcoming us as liberators, Bush tax cuts, intelligent design, no child left behind, repealing R v Wade...
No I was talking about being a pathological liar. Reformers do not hire lobbyists to secure 27 million in pork when they're mayor of a podunk town. They do no raise money for Ted Stevens and campaign for his bridge to nowhere. They do not leave 20 million in debt or ask for a government handout to build a train from Wasilla to Ted Stevens' home town ski resort.
September 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign should definitely go on the offensive with ads and statements linking McCain/Palin's pattern of repeating lies to Bush/Cheney's pattern of repeating lies to push failed policies such as the invasion of Iraq. The whole point is to highlight the disastrous consequences of dishonest leadership.
September 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently that is also a lie in the same vein. That was a snapshot of one period of time. In others he voted with Bush in the 65% range. Interesting that they don't mention that. Wonder how often McCain voted with Clinton? Liars lying about liars. Whose the liar, whose the liar, he said, she said.
And in other news:
Uh huh. Right. Standard questioning procedure: exhaust the subject and they will eventually slip up and tell the truth.
Uh huh. Right. Now that's just pathetic.
September 8, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
you're like a zit that won't go away.
September 8, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
M Weaver -
Position shift? Like McCain on privatizing social security, immigration, gay adoption, the GI bill, keeping Russia in the G8, torture, wireless wiretapping, shifting resources to Afghanistan, a time-line for Iraq, abortion is case of rape or incest, agents of intolerance, Iraqis welcoming us as liberators, Bush tax cuts, intelligent design, no child left behind, repealing R v Wade...
No I was talking about being a pathological liar. Reformers do not hire lobbyists to secure 27 million in pork when they're mayor of a podunk town. They do no raise money for Ted Stevens and campaign for his bridge to nowhere. They do not leave 20 million in debt or ask for a government handout to build a train from Wasilla to Ted Stevens' home town ski resort.
September 8, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Need to direct the hits where they have the greatest impact. Focus on the question of McCain's veracity and honor in light of obvious lies. In doing so, they'll direct attention to the top of the ticket while indirectly magnifying the issues with Palin.
September 8, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Need to direct the hits where they have the greatest impact. Focus on the question of McCain's veracity and honor in light of obvious lies. In doing so, they'll direct attention to the top of the ticket while indirectly magnifying the issues with Palin.
September 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign should definitely go on the offensive with ads and statements linking McCain/Palin's pattern of repeating lies to Bush/Cheney's pattern of repeating lies to push failed policies such as the invasion of Iraq. The whole point is to highlight the disastrous consequences of dishonest leadership.
September 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
How often did McCain vote with Cheney when they were in the Senate together?
September 8, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign should definitely go on the offensive with ads and statements linking McCain/Palin's pattern of repeating lies to Bush/Cheney's pattern of repeating lies to push failed policies such as the invasion of Iraq. The whole point is to highlight the disastrous consequences of dishonest leadership.
September 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain/Palin are "the Bridge to Nowhere"!
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/mccainpalin-are-the-bridge-to.php
September 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know this seems kinda cheesy and ridiculous, but voters need the dots connected and they respond to emotional appeals . . . therefore, the campaign has to flesh out why lying is bad for them. Seriously. First, make it personal: Remind people about how all the half-truths and big lies that others tell undermine and hurt the foundations of our lives . . . in relationships, at work, businesses preying on the elderly and the infirm, in religious institutions even, etc. Say how it's a kind of manipulation and cowardice, an abuse of power but also a sign of weakness that can have a devastating effect on people who give others the benefit of the doubt (people haven't been watching Oprah & Dr. Phil for nothing).
THEN connect that to the relationship between governments, government officials, and the owners of the democracy -- we the people. Intimate how destructive corporate and government scandals have been, and that they've been based on lies told to good, honest people. Build the narrative.
And THEN hang every single one of McCain's and Palin's lies & half-truths on that narrative. Stop being so wonkish & start being emotional.
September 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good for Obama for responding to this crap.
September 8, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I won't talk to trolls BUT as a shout out to logical thinkers, there is a difference between a LIE and changing a position.
Palin told the people of Ketchican they were "somewhere" to her and she'd fight for their bridge. (I believe it's a fair bet someone has that on tape.)
She didn't say, "If we want a bridge here in Alaska, we'll build it ourselves."
She used nearly 30 million dollars "earmarked" for the bridge to nowhere/somewhere for who knows what. (I'll bet there are detailed records someplace in Alaska state files.)
She did not say, "I'm sending back these wasted taxpayer dollars because I'm a maverick!"
There is lipstick on something. Not a soccer Mom or a pitbull. It smells like pork.
September 8, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign just doesn’t get it and never will. It’s their job to tell the American it’s a LIE. Americans are dumb. Who gives a fuck about what “numerous news sources say”. Produce an ad attacking and ripping McCain balls off telling the American it’s a lie. Americans wont figure it out unless you pound them over the head with it. They will never learn. You need more then Bill Burton saying it.
Such a weak and feeble response. All we get is responses while McCain defines and sets the narrative on every issue including CHANGE
September 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
oopsie -
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008154532_webpalin02m.html
September 8, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
oopsie -
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008154532_webpalin02m.html
just rec'd "error message" hope this isn't a double post
September 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
my apologies.
September 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think they should have just zeroed in on the lie and left the other stuff out. If the Ad was about the lie only, it would have hit home much better.
September 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink