Obama Ad Hits McCain On Health Care: "A Risk We Just Can't Afford"
The Obama campaign goes up with a new ad hitting McCain for his apparent call, in an article for the magazine of the American Academy of Actuaries, for "opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition":
In an interesting twist, McCain's article for Contingencies magazine was unearthed by Paul Krugman, who was a leading Obama-sketpic during the Dem primary, partly because of Obama's health care plan.
The spot weaves the McCain-as-deregulator critique into a broader, more emotional argument, describing McCain as "a risk we just can't afford to take."
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I like the ad. Make them explain how what he appears under his name doesn't mean what it says.
I also like the Rovian jujitsu - McCain is selling himself as a safer choice therefore the Obama campaign paints him as a risk.
The big difference between this and a a Rove version is that O has those little things called facts on his side.
O-mementum keep it rolling. We are going to need a thinker in the oval office in the trying times facing us not another "decider".
September 22, 2008 7:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Senator John McCain’s campaign manager was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?ex=1379822400&en=ab87b174da226509&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
September 22, 2008 7:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
In spite of that, McCain himself said that Obama is "gaming the system" regarding the mortgage crisis.
Beyond irony. Even the Onion doesn't make up stuff like this.
September 22, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent ad. I think all rational humans can agree the last thing the health insurance industry needs is less regulation. The lack of regulations on the health insurance industry literally leads to thousands of deaths every year. Think about that. Untold thousands dead because health insurance lobbyists are good at thier jobs. These lobbyists, ironically enough, tend to ally themselves with the "Pro-Life" crowd... chew on that thought for a while.
That said, how dare you attack McCain! So what if he wants the uninsurred or under insured to die, most of those people ARE POOR! John McCain was poor for 5 1/2 years. Ever since he escaped his captivity as a POW (the true story of which has never been told (see Rambo, a movie loosely based on the life of John McCain (if you believe this, email me about a great investment I have for you in Alaskan bridges))) McCain has fought his way up the economic ladder until now he is super rich! Let me tell you, marrying is hard work!
September 22, 2008 7:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good ad. I can't understand how anybody with any sense would plan to vote for Palin/McSame at this point. But that's just me.
The economic "crisis" will overshadow this election until or unless it gets "solved" this week. As such, the neo-con-men have the Democrats over a barrel again. Or so they think.
I'd like to see the Democrats grow a spine and just say no (unless the necessary reforms are written into the bill as well).
Financial firms are lining up to feed at this trough already! But it ought to be a last resort, exacting a huge price from those firms in such dire need that they need to use it.
Dean Baker has a good piece on this. Read the NYT article he links to. (I find it impossible to post on the Cafe' this morning, however.)
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/21/no_one_believes_henry_paulson_1/
-- ARG
September 22, 2008 7:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Good ad. I can't understand how anybody with any sense would plan to vote for Palin/McSame at this point. But that's just me."
-- Channeling Adlai Stevenson:
Yeah but we need a majority...
September 22, 2008 8:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
AWESOME AD! That ad murders McCain.
I think we're going to see Rev. Wright much sooner than anticipated.
September 22, 2008 7:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Haven't we seen that already? And it didn't make a permanent dent.
September 22, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent ad. I think all rational humans can agree the last thing the health insurance industry needs is less regulation. The lack of regulations on the health insurance industry literally leads to thousands of deaths every year. Think about that, untold thousands dead because health insurance lobbyists are good at their jobs! These lobbyists, ironically enough, tend to ally themselves with the "Pro-Life" crowd... chew on that thought for a while.
That said, how dare you attack McCain! So what if he wants the uninsured or under insured to die, most of those people ARE POOR! John McCain was poor for 5 1/2 years. Ever since he escaped his captivity as a POW (the true story of which has never been told (see Rambo, a movie loosely based on the life of John McCain (if you believe this, email me about a great investment I have for you in Alaskan bridges))) McCain has fought his way up the economic ladder until now he is super rich! Let me tell you, marrying is hard work!
September 22, 2008 7:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Senator John McCain’s campaign manager was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/2...
More McCain Hyprocrisy
September 22, 2008 7:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
AWESOME AD! That ad murders McCain.
I think we're going to see Rev. Wright much sooner than anticipated.
September 22, 2008 7:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
They just rolled out Chicago Machine. It's not quite Reverend Wright, but it tries its best to equate Obama with every notable Chicago politician currently mired in corruption charges. Oh and Rezko.
It's a distraction.
September 22, 2008 8:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
They're already pulling out Rezko. This seems to suggest they are panicked.
Besides, I find it doubtful that the McCain Campaign will directly play the Rev. Wright card. That will be farmed out to the 527's around two weeks before election day.
September 22, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
"In 2007, Wall Street's five biggest firms-- Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, and Morgan Stanley - paid a record $39 billion in bonuses to themselves." ABC's Political Punch -- I say no Bail Out!
AND
Senator John McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/2...
More McCain Hyprocrisy
September 22, 2008 8:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seems to me, Congress needs to let those executives know that federal assistance comes at a price! Either accept the terms or you're on your own. Bad enough the taxpayer is gonna take it up the ar$e to bail them out, but that doesn't mean the executives can keep grazing to fatten their wallets at the same time. If we give - you forsake. Very simple. If you don't like it, go find another source.
September 22, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
In the 60 Minutes interview aired last night, McCain is asked by Scott Pelley, where has he lived the longest. McCain answers, the Hanoi prison. This is the same answer that he gave when he first ran for congress in 1981. It may or may not have been true then, but it's certainly not true now. For at least the past 27 years, McCain has called Arizona home.
September 22, 2008 8:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Run that one through factcheck! That has got to be bullshit. Are we talking about his adult life? Oh, and he doesn't like to mention anything about his POW POW POW sufferings.
September 22, 2008 8:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's see, he married Cindy in 1980, retired from the Navy and moved to Arizona. That's 28 years, but with 7 houses that averages out to only 4 years in a house.
Maybe my math skills can get me a job in a McLame administration as an economic adviser!
September 22, 2008 8:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
i guess when you have multiple homes and live between them it shortens the time lived in any one of them
September 22, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he buys a new home every 4 years in AZ.
September 22, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he buys a new home every 4 years in AZ.
September 22, 2008 8:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
we you live in multiple houses you can claim a short time in each to make up for the years you have lived in Arizona.
September 22, 2008 9:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he buys a new home every 4 years in AZ.
September 22, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
But you see, he has 7 - or 8 or 10 or 12, who's counting? - homes in not only Arizona but also in near DC and in California. If he splits time between all of them - and I'm sure he does - he can then "factually" state that the place where he resided "continuously" for the longest period of his life was the Hanoi Hilton.
See, that's why it's great having so many homes - you can tell the same POW story today that you told in 1981!
September 22, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
What a slimeball. Reeks of desperation. Would be nice if a 527 of former POWs came out with an ad accussing McCain of cheapening their sacrifice for politcal purposes.
September 22, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's going to try and change the subject today with his "Chicago Machine" ad. Can we try NOT to get distracted by it? Don't click on the ad. Don't engage the bullshit trolls that are bound to bring it up. And TPM DON'T post it. They aren't running the ad anywhere. Just want to get media coverage to change the subject.
September 22, 2008 8:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Chicago Machine" ad is just dumb. People don't know who most of those people are and don't care.
People are scared right now with pocket book issues. McCain should attack Obama on the economy not on who he knows if he wants to persuade voters. The fact that he is not says A LOT.
September 22, 2008 8:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Most people don't know is that individual health coverage is a variable cost. It varies depending in preexisting conditions and age. When I turned 50, my insurance thru an HMO(single person)jumped from $300 a month to over $800 a month. That's $3600 to $9600 a year; $6000 annual increase due to age. McCain's plan is no where near what it costs for insurance for an individual.
September 22, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The $2,000 figure is based on comparable plans -- same level of coverage, benefits, deductibles and co-pays, etc. -- for comparable people.
In fact, the larger problem with McShame's plan is it allows discrimination based on preexisting conditions, health status, etc. So lots of people today, who would not be able to qualify for health insurance if they had to buy it individually, can get it through their employer's plan. But if their employer stops covering employees -- as would be likely under McShame -- they're thrown into the individual market with no protections.
By contrast, Obama's health care reform plan requires all insurance companies to accept all applicants regardless of preexisting conditions or health status.
September 22, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Chicago Machine" ad is just dumb. People don't know who most of those people are and don't care.
People are scared right now with pocket book issues. McCain should attack Obama on the economy not on who he knows if he wants to persuade voters. The fact that he is not says A LOT.
September 22, 2008 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
What is amazing to me is the speed in which the unearth quote by someone who reads Krugman becomes a political commerical for Obama.
I think we have finally countered the right wing machine (Heritage , Fox News, Rush )
September 22, 2008 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
What is amazing to me is the speed in which the unearth quote by someone who reads Krugman becomes a political commerical for Obama.
I think we have finally countered the right wing machine (Heritage , Fox News, Rush )
September 22, 2008 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
New Rasmussen, O+8 in MN, M+3 in NC
September 22, 2008 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 8:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I use Linux and the ad doesn't load. Where do you go to get a Youtube/flash version of the ad?
September 22, 2008 8:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 8:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I run Linux. Where can I go to watch the ad in Flash? Youtube?
September 22, 2008 8:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
So do I, works for me in flash.
September 22, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, of course he lived the longest in Hanoi. Let's see: 7 homes shuffled between over 27 years, assuming equal amounts of time spent in each home, means less than 4 years on average per home. See? Easy!
September 22, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
He also pulled out a set of dog tags on 60 Minutes. This man has no shame.
September 22, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good spot and great to ram McShame's own words down his throat.
But I still think any attack on his health plan has to include three key points:
1) Tax your health benefits
2) Cause 20 million Americans to lose their health coverage.
3) Increase health premiums by $2,000 annually.
The first point is a simple statement of fact. The last two were from the findings of an independent study. Ram those down his throat, too.
September 22, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, of course he lived the longest in Hanoi. Let's see: 7 homes shuffled between over 27 years, assuming equal amounts of time spent in each home, means less than 4 years on average per home. See? Easy!
September 22, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry about the multiple postings. Every time I hit "send" I got an error message and it seemed it hadn't gone through.
September 22, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bullwinkle would've said, "Oops, don't know my own strength!"
-- ARG
September 22, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Try recycling the page instead ... works for me.
September 22, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
A recently published article I found this morning on McCain's market-based healthcare plan and a video of him expressing his stand on deregulation along with a bonus! He mentions the bridge to nowhere!!!!
September 22, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Odd that they are willing to consider $700 billion dollars to fix the ailing and sick financial sector, but can't find the dime or time to consider the health of the people they tax.
September 22, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
It sort of makes it seem like McCain HAS a healthcare plan, which...I don't think he does.
September 22, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
He does. Free and unlimited due to being a Senator. He has no worries about health care like the rest of us. So how can someone who has no worries about his health care plan that doesn't require him to pay premiums, restrict certain procedures and medications, devise a nationwide universal health care system that provides the same basic care he receives?
September 22, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lets hope Obamas new health plan will change some of the current problems we face.
January 30, 2009 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink