New McCain Ad Falsely Suggests Obama Wants Kids To Learn "About Sex Before Learning To Read"
The McCain campaign is up with a new ad attacking Obama on education that makes some rather strong insinuations about sex:
There's a lot to chew on here. But we want to focus on one particularly pernicious aspect of it. The ad shows a dreamy-looking Obama as it says:
Obama's one accomplishment? Legislation to teach "comprehensive sex education" to kindergartners. Learning about sex before learning to read?
In a final moment of subtlety, the ad says Obama is "wrong for your family."
According to the McCain campaign's own email, the sex ed claim is based on Obama's support for a bill, in the Illinois state legislature, that said:
"Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV."
As you can see, the McCain ad says that Obama was the one who pushed the "comprehensive sex education" measure. The Obama campaign has pointed out that the bill would simply add instruction on disease prevention to already existing Illinois sex-ed standards. But the McCain campaign cheerfully turned this into Obama's support for "learning about sex before learning to read."
And "civil" and "honorable" McCain approved that message.
Late Update: Obama spokesperson Bill Burton's response directly questions McCain's honor:
"It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls - a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn't define what honor was. Now we know why."
Well they definitely threw down - this is going to be an all out Culture War.
Ok, they asked for it.
September 9, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great so let's sit around and wait for the Repuglicans to paint us any way we want. I'm not going to give another cent to the Obama campaign until he shows that he has a backbone and starts to defend himself. Ever since Palin, the Repuglicans have been completely controlling the narrative and the polls are showing that it is hurting us. When are we going to attack?
No wonder the country feels that they can trust the Repuglicans more for national security. Anyone thought what kind of a message we as Democrats are sending when we let the Repuglicans attack us with their lies? Makes the democrats look like a bunch of pansy pacifists. I a sick of losing elections and seeing the country go down the drain. We can't afford to let the lying Evangelista destroy this country.
I am sick of belonging to a party that does nothing while Repuglicans distort facts and win election after election. Attack and do whatever it takes to win this election.
September 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with you. No more money until Obama comes after McCain hard. They want me to go all in on the general and I won't even take their calls anymore.
THEY NEED TO GO ALL IN FIRST.
This new ad from the McCain camp is despicable and yet Obama will give a nuanced response in the press, send a few press releases, and so on. Damage done. The narrative becomes the damage. The press talks about it and plays right into McCain's hands. It all adds up as just more bad news and negative spin for Obama.
Folks, I have a bad feeling about this ad. It might be a ticking time bomb if not kicked to the curb fast; it feels like a Willie Horton one.
Why not kick some dirt in McCain's eyes for a change? The guy lies every single time he opens his mouth. Just show him and his quotes and have some carnival song and kids jeering, "liar, liar pants on fire." Is that so hard?
September 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about an ad about McCain dumped his first, disabled wife because she had gained weight after an accident, and applied for a marriage license with a rich, much younger woman before he was divorced?
Then show pics of McStain with Vicki Iseman. And run the video of him eyeballing Palin's ass in her intro speech.
Attack him on family values, morality, fidelity, and HIT BACK HARD!
I'm not giving another cent until I see Barack draw blood. Even worse, I'm not giving my time.
PEACE
September 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Drudge and the wingers are all upset that today Obama said "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."
Right wingnuts are hyperventilating, claiming that Obama called Palin a pig (since she owns the word lipstick now). Obama should stand by his statement and make it clear that Palin is the lipstick... and McCain is the pig.
September 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
In-ter-esting ...
All they have to do is take a splash of the perverse old man(pervert), two parts philanderer(cheating on his faithful wife), and one part predator(predilection for younger women - Hensley/Iseman), and shake well(attacking his adherence to the values he professes.)
THEN pull out the "Palin is the lipstick, McCain is the pig" ad.
Just hope there's a portable defib unit around the first time he sees or hears about it ...
September 9, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are democrats, we won't go THAT low. However, we can still hit back hard.
September 9, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well,Dems, if you aren't willing to fight back, you might as well sit back and get ready for the defeat that is sure to follow. This ain't beanbag -- it is politics, Rove style. That means there is no lie that can't be told, no half-truth that can't be stretched into the Full Monty.
Do I like the idea? No. Is there another way to do this? Only if you had media willing to take McCain/Palin on ... of which there are very few.
September 10, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Like you too really aren't trolls.
I bet you're the same person.
LMAO!
September 9, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOD DAMN IT, TENA, STOP IT.
You throw "troll" accusations around these threads with completely reckless abandon, over and over and over. I've noted it several times in several threads.
CLEARLY, you didn't bother to check the profile of either ThatsHowISeeIt OR jcfinsf. If you had, you would have seen their history of blog posts and comments, and you'd realize why your "troll" accusation is beyond pathetic.
Checking someone's posts is ridiculously easy to do. Just click on their nick and it will take you to their profile page. It lists their recent blog posts and comments. You can get even more comment history by pasting "Posted by [insert-nick-here] site:talkingpointsmemo.com" into The Google.
But you just don't give a shit, do you. Anybody who posts anything you disagree with -- especially anybody who says ANYTHING remotely critical of Obama or his campaign, no matter its merit, is automatically a "troll" to you. It's beyond the cheap shot. It's disgusting.
September 10, 2008 2:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you gharlane. I am not a troll.
I am one of Obama's biggest supporters. I am just sick to see his campaign do virtually nothing as I feel if they do not wake up we are going to lose this election.
I would be a troll... if I didn't point this out.
If we let this continue, we are doomed. We have to beat the Republicans at their own game if we intend to win this thing. Obama already has the voted of those who can digest reality and nuanced replies. What we need now is to take over the narrative and completely obliterate grandpa McCain's circus act.
September 10, 2008 2:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about this response ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmpPktMSYPI&feature=email
September 10, 2008 8:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh that's smart. No money to the campaign because that will somehow influence them to fight the McCain ads? Money is exactly what's needed to fight the ads. Money not just to the Obama campaign, but also to Move-on and any other groups who are working to make sure McCain/Palin are soundly defeated.
I pledge the exact opposite of the commenters above -- I'm going to give more money to the Obama campaign and other groups working to free our country of the ravages of the Republicans!
September 10, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he should just bust a cap in his ass, huh?
WTF are you people talking about. You really think he should be running ads criticizing McCain for divorcing his wife? Really?
I'm not reading one more post of yours until you actually come up with an idea instead of whining. Oh and if this thing goes awry, we'll remember you were the assholes who sat on their hands when the going got tough.
September 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lord, do I ever co-sign this post.
Can we please calm down? Did you think this shit was going to be easy?? Do you have any idea of what we are up against?
A party that desperately wants to stay in power because they love power and don't want to be investigated.
A bunch of "journalists" who, if they are not cowed are complicit.
A populace where many are too busy and/or just trying to keep their collective heads above water and too many people who can be easily swayed by propaganda and racist appeals, no matter how broke they are.
Do we not realize that this is an insurgent campaign? Sure, people are pissed off about repubs, but they're not pissed enough. And it only took 5 years, when it should have happened sooner.
For months his campaign has been fighting. He has had to run a damned near flawless campaign even to GET this far. And now when it's tough...when the rethugs are living up to their name and slinging shit because that's all they have? When McKept and his country club set uses the racism of the rubes and easily led--people they despise?
And when Barack knows that he *still* must fight smarter, because of the double standards that will be held against him?
This is what his supporters become? Ranting and raving about the campaign when they're not ranting at some wingnut trolls who post their crap here? Threatening to take your ball and go home? And you want to know what we have in common with that?
IT'S PURELY MASTURBATORY!!!
Get tha' fuck outta here. MAN up! WOMAN up!
Yes, I shouted. But what are we doing? I'm giving money and collecting money. My Mom walks around with registration forms in her purse! Are you doing that? Are you working in the local campaign offices? On the steering committees?
I don't want to slam anyone here, because I believe 98% of the folks who post to this board are intelligent, passionate and only want what's best for our country. We don't want him to blow it! We've been so close before. I understand--in fact, I probably understand it better than most. But angry screeds aren't gonna cut it. They don't help.
This is no time to have a shit fit. That campaign needs money and volunteers and time more than ever.
Just consider. Then let your conscience and/or spirit be your guide.
As for me--it's time to drop another $250.
September 9, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear, hear.
September 9, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely!
September 9, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the rational thought.
I want to say I'm shocked by the McCain ad, but deep down I've been waiting for it.
And my real question is . . . why is everyone from the Rachel Maddow show to TPM posting the full thing for viewing?
Why is there not a great outrage from the "news" outlets that a candidate for president is telling lies about kindergarteners and sex and not being called on the carpet?
This isn't an eighth grade name calling contest! The news shouldn't keep running back and forth between the two campaigns asking "did you hear what he said?"
AAARRRGH!
Obama does need to be pissed off, and show it. Let a little of the steam out on camera and it should be the opening line at the debate, "Senator McCain, have you lost your mind? You won't lose a war to win an election, but you'll mix sex and kindergarteners up to see what happens?"
THE INMATES ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM, AND WE'RE GIVING THEM A PASS!
September 10, 2008 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Relax, APeach. Some of us can do both.
Me, after working for Jerry McNerney in 2006, I'm turning my attention to two Congressional races in Republican districts in CA -- Charlie Brown in CA-4 against wingnut Tom McClintock, and Bill Durston in CA-3, running against incumbent wingnut Dan Lungren. The incumbent in CA-4, John Doolittle, is heavily implicated in the Abramoff scandal, is under investigation, may well be indicted, and announced in January that he was "retiring" from the House.
These guys are solid progressives who Obama will need in Congress to get done what we want done. And turning out voters in those districts will both help Obama electorally (although CA is a pretty safe D state in the Presidential) and help his party-building mission.
And you know what? I can still voice criticism of the Obama campaign, without it compromising my other activity.
September 10, 2008 2:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bravo... Turning talk into action; what a concept.
September 10, 2008 3:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with you. I can still remember watching as John Kerry failed to stand up and fight back when they impugned his military service -- people who never stepped foot into a uniform, chickenhawks and cowards who avoided service, and here's a guy who was up a river in Vietnam in some shitty little boat, and he didn't have the spine to call them out on it and make them insult him to his face. I'm not gonna go through that again, at least I'm not going to pay for the privilege. Obama and his people need to take their gun out of the holster.
September 9, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow, you are so impressive. oh, gosh, you're not going to send any more $5 contributions? Well! That settles it! I'm packing my bags and voting for McPain/Callous! Wow, I am so impressed.
September 9, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're sick of losing, so you refuse to contribute and you attack our candidate. Excellent. Maybe you should vote for McCain. That would really teach those Repugnicans a lesson, wouldn't it?
September 10, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is a perfect time for Obama to call McCain out. He needs to flatly state that "McCain has no honor" if he approved that message. He should keep saying it everyday. He should show outrage!
September 9, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like that's exactly what the Obama campaign is saying.
Call me crazy, but I think they're pissed. And they have money, and talent. McCain is going to regret this.
Then again, McCain has access to polling we don't. This move screams desperation, especially that they put their name on it.
September 9, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. The way to make this stick is for Obama to say it himself - he needs to blast McCain. Call him out on his culture war crap.
Pufferfish
September 9, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure Obama should lower himself to address this directly.
I'd have Biden expressing his extreme shock, anger and disappointment, and one or more ads in response to this one, directly going after McCain's dishonorable behavior and setting the record straight. Saturate media outlets with the facts and with the outrage. Ask questions as to why a supposedly good man would stoop this low.
In fact, I'd key off of all the compliments Dems have been giving McCain to really drive the point home with the contrast.
September 9, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have a good point. The best way is typically to let surrogates handle this while staying above the fray. But Americans also want to know the president is a fighter. Obama showing a spark, a little passion, might not be a bad idea.
September 9, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Biden has the advantage of knowing McCain for 25 years. He can call him out in a way that could be more effective. We need to hear from Kerry, and someone should start leaning on folks like Hagel and Colin Powell. Ask them if this is what men of honor are like.
Two choices: (1) make yourself just as disgusting as the next guy and hope that you turn off fewer voters to the whole shit-scapade than the other guy does (and contradict everything you have been saying for a year); or (2) you shame the other guy (well you can belittle and humiliate him and make fun of him too) for being a dishonorable- politics-at-it's-very-worst-divider and you offer the voters something better.
McCain is taking a risk because he is branding himself as something different than politics as usual and then he does politics at it's worst x10. Maybe it pays off, maybe he gets called on it.
People think #1 is somehow a no-lose strategy. That strikes me as idiotic.
That said, I am now donating another $100.
Anyone else who doesn't is a coward. (OK donate whatyou can afford)
September 9, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Except the culture war is a proxy and a red herring for the class economic war.
This nation is based only on one principle: free contract. In such a nation, bargaining power is everything. So everything that goes on around us is really about individuals or groups of individuals trying to increase their bargaining power: be it advertisements, politics or personal grooming habits.
Thus the only war is class warfare over bargaining power.
The upper class can't win that war in a democracy or psuedo-democracy such as ours - their numbers are too few. So they've spent tons of money turning it into a culture war, where they get the kind of numbers they need.
Everytime class warfare issues come up the Republicans claim the Democrats are trying to foment class-warfare like it's some big crime.
Obama to his credit says there is no culture warfare, we're all Americans.
I suppose it may be too late for this, but Democrats would do better to not except Republican framing. Cause that's how they get their numbers up. I would say, invest in changing the framing is more important than a 50 state strategy. Or at the very least, changing the framing makes the the 50 state strategy possible.
It is class warfare.
As Harry Truman said, "How many times do you have to get hit over the head until you figure out who's hitting you?"
and....
"If you want to live like a Republican..." say, own a single house, ..."you better vote for a Democrat."
September 10, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to add:
What we have here in our politics is rolling reframing: Lipstick on a pig referred to policies (Cheney used it four years ago), but the Republican's are reframing it to refer to Palin...
The key is to get control of the reframing... Because the original reframing, and the only one that counts was taking the class warfare and turning it into a culture warfare.
Republicans can't win the former, Democrats can't win the later.
September 10, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see McCain is coming down with a case of Palinitis.
September 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Despicable
September 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get those 527s fired up and ready to go!
September 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
I know Obama asked them to stop, but at this point, I think they should ignore him and start up.
Who can complain? McCain is doing ZILCH to stop the rightie 527s
September 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to ol' Ambers at the Atlantic, Obama has already apparently signalled for them to start up...I'll see if I can find the link.
September 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
And here it is:
The 527s may not be so dormant after all....
September 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Part of this legislation was meant to teach children about "inappropriate touching". I want a frickin' 527 ad out yesterday asking why McCain supports child molesters.
The frickin' right-wing can't win on the issues, so they're going to start a damn culture war. I'm so goddamn sick of this crap!!!!!!!!!!!
September 9, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama stood up there in Denver and said "This is not about me. This is about you."
Well, fine Barack. You don't want the 527's? Sorry, it's not about you, it's about us and we want blood. Stay above it all, give your careful, thoughtful answers with all the nuance you want. This election is far bigger than what you want, Barack.
No more knives at gun fights.
PEACE
September 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's accuse McCain of molesting children and say that is why he is criticizingObama support of bill to protect kids. Maybe some of you guys can claim you were actual victims.
Yeah that would be awesome!!!!!
September 9, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sleepers? How funny. Obama calling for the 527s he wasn't going to need? Obama worried he doesn't have the money he needs after embarrassing me by opting out of public financing? Calling for Hillary to go to Florida for him? Guess who he calls for next? Comes the wet hiney hour, he'll start calling for the big dog.
September 9, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I smell trolls.
Just sayin'
September 9, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I tried to post the same thing there.
Sure sure, they've sent Obama money. Yeah right.
September 9, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you the moron who called me a troll without taking the time to see who I am? You must be a Republican to be so dumb.
September 10, 2008 2:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you the moron who called me a troll without taking the time to see who I am?
You got that right. It's pathetic. Tena seems to have nothing better to do than impugn the motives of anyone -- including Sargent and Kleefeld -- that don't toe her personal party line.
September 10, 2008 2:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess the appropriate response is:
Ask John McCain why he supports child molesters?
Or:
Sarah Palin thinks government should pay her to sleep in her own bed but thinks rape victims should have to pay for their own medical exams?
Do we really want perverts in the White House?
They would deserve it.
September 9, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why "or"? I say make it "AND"!
September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Part of this legislation was meant to teach children about "inappropriate touching". I want a frickin' 527 ad out yesterday asking why McCain supports child molesters.
The frickin' right-wing can't win on the issues, so they're going to start a damn culture war. I'm so goddamn sick of this crap!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn. Fucking. Right.
No more sporks at gun fights.
Time to throw a tactical nuke.
September 10, 2008 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
And another thing.
ENOUGH OF THE REACTIVITY.
Get out there FIRST, with your OWN ads, defining McCain as the dishonorable, unprincipled, deranged career politician that he actually is.
Get them out in such a way that the corporate media can't HELP but talk about them. Free airtime.
To do that you might have to be a little risky in one or two ads. A touch of spice. A solid roundhouse punch.
Barack, rumor has it that you're a poker player (and McCain prefers craps). It's also a truism that the best time to bluff is when you have four aces. So USE THEM, dammit. Throw a couple thousand on the table and see if they'll see it. And you know what? If they do, you can raise 'em.
September 10, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
And here it is: The 527s may not be so dormant after all....
Good. And about fucking time, too.
September 10, 2008 2:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
i also agree, but it bears repeating the fact that the ad above isn't even a 527. it's endorsed by john mccain's face. honortastic.
September 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. That wasn't an ad from a 527 funded by a few wealthy wing-nuts. That was a McCain campaign ad approved by John McCain. If Obama planned to bring a gun to the fight if McCain brought a knife, then figuratively speaking, it's time for him to start using it.
September 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forget about the Repuglicans bringing a knife to the fight, they have been firing volleys of multiple barrel rocket launchers at us for week. Obama's response, nuanced policy discussions like the dumb moron electorate who voted for Bush TWICE is intelligent enough to grasp Obama's nuanced explanations.
ATTACK, ATTACK HARD, ATTACK NOW, and don't stop attacking until this is over! I a sick of belonging to the pansy pacifist party of losers. If Obama has no intention of fighting to win, he should never have accepted the nomination.
Obama is right about the fierce urgency of now. So now go and win this thing with whatever legal means at our disposal! Destroy the Grandpa/Evanglista freak show before it destroys our country.
September 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is just so utterly disgusting. I want to go take a bath now. and throw up. or the other way around.
September 9, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Age appropriate education. Nothing wrong with doing that.
I used to teach young children. I still recall the lady whose 3rd grade son was asking questions about sex... and already had quite a bit of info. But no, his mother was "going to tell him when he's ready."
A kid is ready when they ask questions. Children as young as 3 may ask where babies come from. And if you refuse to answer, you're giving them a message that asking that kind of question is taboo. On the other hand it is perfectly possible to provide info at the level the child understands.
A lack of info can lead to .... Briston Palin's pregnancy!
September 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Edzacklee...
Snarky retort to McCain:
"Perhaps if your running mate had availed her daughter of comprehensive sex education in ANY grade she wouldn't have gotten herself knocked up."
"As a responsible, loving parents, Senator and Michelle Obama seek to provide the best and most comprehensive education for their daughters and everyone's children. They realize that to insure the brightest futures for all of our children, we must teach them not just the three R's, but the birds and bees and beyond."
"This ad proves once again, that John McCain simply doesn't get the realities that today's children face, but that he and his policies are stuck in the time warp of the 1950s."
September 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
three strikes. Nice try though
September 9, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bristol's situation could have as much to do with Levi not wantin' to wear no rubber to Bristol not being able to get the pill without parental consent. At 16 they probably knew how the plumbing works
September 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Comprehensive sex education would empower girls to say to boys, "No glove, no love. No how, no way."
And the Levi Johnstons of the world wouldn't believe the myths and lies spread in locker rooms.
Young men are just as responsible for preventing unwanted pregnancies as are young women.
September 9, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's response:
September 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woo, that was one pissed off answer. I loved it!
September 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Honor? McCain is a POW POW POW!
Subject will be dismissed.
September 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have they awoken a sleeping giant?
September 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hot damn, this is what we've been needing foreever! Now we can go after McCain's stong suit: his honor!
This let's us redefine McCain, something we haven't been able to do yet.
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
They need to get way out in front of this. This is the beginning of the Republican swiftboating operations.
September 9, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
My thought was: Next bullshit distraction to suck up the oxygen, preventing any discussions of war, health care, economy.
Remember the stolen flags in Denver over the weekend? Expect some faux-outrage inducing bullshit every day from here on out.
On a related note, a Kos blogger had this astute observation:
Palin is a "play action pass", a pass play where the quarterback fakes a handoff to a running back while he's dropping back to pass.
The point: Palin doesn't have the football, McCain has the football. Get McCain, he's the nominee!
Anyway, here's the link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/9/131541/9214/654/592275
September 9, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice analogy.
September 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of faux-outrage inducing bullshit...
The Sarah Truth Squad got its rollout today - and the first thing they're taking on is Obama's use of the phrase 'lipstick on a pig.'
They're actually accusing Obama of calling Palin a pig.
(Haven't read downthread yet, so apologies if this has been posted already.)
September 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
So? She is a pig. Or was that a pitbull? Darn I can never remember which animal she fancies herself. Let's compromise and call her a pig-dog. Everybody happy?
September 9, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this the same McCain who called his wife a cunt in public and cheated on his wife.
September 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's no wonder he's in the gutter with his ads, when he's got gutter language for his wife!
Is she nuts?? Well....yes.
But he's a gutter guy for sure!
September 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Time to take off the gloves and get those 727 ads up. "John McCain hates that Obama worked to help schoolchildren protect themselves against pedophiles. Why would John McCain want to protect sexual predators from children? Only John McCain knows for sure."
September 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is good, Dave.
September 9, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad is simply disgusting. McCain is losing all dignity and respect for himself.
September 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
His history suggests he never had it!
September 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's fucking it.
I want McCain and Palin destroyed, period.
ENOUGH! now has a whole new meaning...
September 9, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto
September 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto
September 9, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto!
Go destroy those unpatriotic parasites destroying our country. McCain is a living breathing garbage can. Time to put his garbage out on display and show the Repuglicans for who they are.
What the hell is the Obama campaign waiting for? I am sick and tired of all the nuanced analysis and discussions.It is time to think outside the box (like the Repuglicans have done so well) and destroy the Republicans.
Run ads painting Grandpa McCain as a womanizing pedophile supporter. What the hell are we waiting for? Until we are 10 points down in the polls?
I am not doing a THING for the Obama campaign until it can show that it can stand up for itself and defend itself.
September 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
With all the Ado about Polls that came out this week. The most reliable poll from NBC/WSJ indicates a dead heat. Bottom line, McCain does not get any convention bounce.
Obama 47
McCain 46
Undecided 7
September 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is your basis for calling WSJ/NBC the "most reliable" poll?
September 10, 2008 2:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Slimy pigfuck bullshit crap flingers!
September 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, that ad upset me a wee bit. Assholes.
September 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, man. It's right to call things for what they really are.
September 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah is a Christian. I'm sure she would forgive you.
September 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!! Thanks for the laugh!
September 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The scary black man wants to teach your kindergartner how to screw!"
Fuck them! How much lower could they possibly go? I hope this backfires on them in a huge way.
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope no one is even a little surprised. What does anyone think it meant when McCain fired his previous staff and brought on Rove's proteges and imitators?
It will get worse...much worse. Count on it. I just hope that the Obama campaign has been counting on it, and has a strategy and tactics ready to go.
September 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
this ad so fucking disgusting!!! i can't believe the levels that this man has stooped too! my goodness, he needs to be stopped. ENOUGH!!!
September 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing gets nastier, including me, than a religious right anti-sex crusader; especially if it's about gay sex. They talk so dirty about what they supposedly hate - they're the ones who constantly bring filth into all discussions. The excuse is they hate it, but they won't shut up about it.
They're disgusting.
September 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not entirely sure reminding people how much Republicans hate sex education is a winning play with Palin on the ticket.
But McCain's folks have clearly decided that culture war is their best hope...
September 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
the ad is disgusting, but considering the Rovian-morons running the McCain Campaign, we should not be surprised.
September 9, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
NBC/WSJ results: Obama 47 McCain 46.
Last poll from this org: Obama 45 - 42.
Not bad.
I repeat: Obama campaign? Get those 527s fired up and ready to go.
The McCain-Palin crowd is dishonorable and dirty. Add to your firepower, please.
September 9, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome, baby!!!!!!!
You rock - thanks for posting that poll.
Eric does like to have his fun. I'm beginning to get that very clearly.
LOL!
September 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, about the same as their last one. I had been on tenterhooks waiting for it to come out because that prick Halperin had Drudgely teased it. Hinted that a big paradigm shift was about to happen as a result of it.
September 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
You blog last Friday was just outstanding.
I was on tenterhooks as well.
But here's something interesting about all those other polls with their, ahem, interesting results:
Link: Discussion of the party identification of respondents in CBS, USAToday/Gallup polls
Short version: higher Republican ID, lower Democratic ID than previous polls.
Maybe it's because Republicans are no longer ashamed of being Republican, but I just don't buy that. If they're Republican in the first place, they're not going to be ashamed about it.
September 9, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama doesn't own the 527s.
Why can't MoveOn say were putting out ads??
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
>I repeat: Obama campaign? Get those 527s fired up and ready to go.
I'll repeat after you. Unleash 527s, please! McCain is saying anything and and doing anything for his own political gain. Why hesitate, Barack? At this point of the game, you should use everything you have to destroy them, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S THE REAL "COUNTRY FIRST" IN THE END! Damn, I REALLY, REALLY want to see those filthy scums completely destroyed.
September 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Grrrrr! No wonder the North Vietnamese got fed up and wanted to send him back before the others.
September 9, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too f@cking funny.
Pro'ly got sick of the whiny, egomanic bullsh@t from St. John
September 9, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent chance to call them liars again.
September 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
FUCK HIM UP BARACK!!!
FUCK HIM UP!! THE MEDIA WONT DO IT! SO YOU HAVE TO
GOD DAMNIT...JUST CALL HIM OUT ON HIS HONOR
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get the 527s fired up, yeah, but remember that the Republicans have managed to even out the funding gap, while Obama has having to spend precious time off the campaign trail to raise money. So we need to donate to Obama, and donate to the 527s and volunteer. Turning down the free money probably wasn't a good idea, but it's where we are and we now have to step up to the plate.
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just when you thought there was no level of absurdity or hypocricy they had not already plumbed, the the campaign that features the mother of the new national poster child for the gigantic fraud that is abstinenece only sex-ed gives us this scary, scary message.
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I gather mcShame really wants us to give to Barack!
September 9, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Now is the time to reach a bit deeper. Barack's new openness to 527s, and the fact that he's doing fundraisers personally, even post-convention, suggests to me that there's a genuine need for more $$.
September 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ambinder names a few big progressive 527s -- but where would a donation be most effective and put to use most quickly, I wonder?
Anyone who knows this world should offer some guidance!
September 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess McCain doesn't want our children to be protected from sexual predators.
September 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
And his Trophy sidekick wants them to keep the babies that the predators cause!
It's a tag-team:
McShame: Impregnate the ignorant!
Palin: Pay for the rape kit and bear more predators' babies!
September 9, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
And give a boost to the adoption "industry" [she said between clenched teeth, and growled afterward.]
September 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Adoption "industry." Is that what provided Trig?
September 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm watching race to the whitehouse on msnbc right now, the commentators are stunned and the dude from Time said this is low
September 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has depended on a lot of "deference" from the media. Me thinks this Rovian slime just eroded some deference.
September 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
POW! Topic dropped
September 9, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I doubt it. McCain will try but the "POW card overuse" meme has been in the media for too long now and he can't deny this ad.
September 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. Now the possibility is raised that said POW is a fucked up individual and has lost his moral compass, regardless of what Joe Lieberman says about having checked his "bearings".
September 9, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gloves off.
I want the tenor of Obama's ads to be stark and no BS. I want OBAMA to get pissed...
Six weeks of a pissed off Obama is what we need...
Certainly Obama can be angry w/o coming across as an "angry black man"?
I want some fucking ads about how TODAY McCain just threw his lot in with fundamentalism.
I want "Daisy" ads...
Destroy the fuckers...
September 9, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus Christ, people, simmer down. McCain's the one who's supposed to have the Sonny Coreleone anger meltdowns, not our guy.
September 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are right of course. Obama won't do a McCain-I was projecting my disgust and anger on him...mea culpa, but McCain has to be CALLED on this crap.
September 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Now is the time for a cool head. The Obama camp's response was pitch perfect. I suspect you won't be hearing anymore about the honorable John McCain.
September 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, maybe not the "Daisy" ads...
I bet that meeting with Big Dog tomorrow is gonna be a barn-burner...
September 9, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad is fucking perverse, and if the media lets this slide, they're not doing their jobs.
This is a blatant, willful misrepresentation of Obama's position and of the bill itself.
September 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should keep questioning McCain's honor. The gloves are off and he shouldn't back down on it. I am sick and tired of lies.
September 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Honor???
POW POW POW!
Topic dropped.
September 9, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Low class.
Obama is running ads about the McCain campaign's bevy of lobbyists, and they are running ads accusing Obama of supporting the sexualizing of 5 years olds.
There is a disconnect here. We need to hit back harder than this.
September 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ew.
This is a new low.
They're just looking fuckin' creeeeepy now.
Sheeesh.
September 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad is an indefensible life. But we have to pivot the issue off of any association between Obama and sex education aimed at children. The Obama campaign response here is excellent: bill was aimed at protecting children from sex predators, McCain lies about it to score political points, putting his Presidential ambition above the safety of children and demonstrating his lack of integrity and honor. McCain's lack of honor becomes the issue.
September 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
indefensible *lie*
September 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The kind of "education" you give to kindergarteners is to talk about 'safe' versus 'unsafe' touch. That simple! And telling an adult you trust if another adult touches you in a way that doesn't feel safe.
I mean... who would disagree with that?
Perverts!
September 9, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I going to add that I think the Obama campaign should consider suing the McCain campaign over this. Even though there is greater leeway given for expression in the political campaign context, this is is very clearly character defamation.
September 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
So did McCain vote against this bill to protect children from sexual predators? Is there an ad there?
Or is it just that R's who voted for the bill voted to protect children, while D's who voted for it wanted to pollute children's minds?
September 9, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
IL State Senate bill, unfortunately.
September 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is most the shameful ad I've ever seen. I'm actually shocked that McCain would stoop this low. I didn't think I was shockable anymore.
September 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is their Willie Horton ad, period.
September 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
You need to be worried. Normally no one would ever believe such an ad. Why would they? Only an idiot would ever come up with such an idea. However, it has been the practice of the Republicans to consistently push such bullshit on the public with little if any reaction from the government.
Tonight, a friend of mine was at my store. We started discussing the election. He told me how he had to go against Obama. After all, Obama was not concerned that the Chinese were drilling for oil 7 miles off our shore. I also heard how he had just heard Palin talking about her record defeating the bridge to nowhere. (We live less than 20 miles from Lebanon, Oh - The Golden Lamb is indeed great - had my departure dinner there when I left government service.) Then I heard how Obama was going to raise everyone's taxes and socialize the entire United States starting with his health care program. Honestly believes the Republican propaganda over the years. He went on to state that the only reason health costs are higher in the US is because of medical malpractice.
When are the Democrats going to learn that the Republican noise machine is a 24/7 is a propaganda tool every second of every day whether it is election season or not. It is supported by a right wing news media, grass roots evangelical foot soldiers and well funded corporate base. We have never thought in such strategic terms, ignore all marketing and some how believe that the vast majority of the public will do the research to discover the truth.
September 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, the crux of it is how to effectively counter it without becoming just like them.
September 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't disagree more. I really don't think so - not at all.
And I'm tired of having people constantly try to pressure me to be worried.
September 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, the low-classness of the McCain ad will be drowned out by Obama's recent comment, headlining drudge right now... that's going to be all people want to talk about unfortunately.
September 9, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw the GOP trolls were getting excited over the line. Fortunately for those with reading comprehension and listening skills it is PLAINLY obviously that he wasn't directing his comments at Palin. Of course that won't stop the GOP from falling all over themselves with faux outrage and disgust.
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September 9, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a succinct soundbite that is quickly recognizable and quickly misunderstood. It will travel faster than anything Obama says.
September 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
In that unfortunate way that is America, this is going to help Obama. She's the one the brought up the lipstick remark, and he used a phrase everyone has seen and heard in many contexts, in a way that showed he was is willing to attack like the big boys.
Kerry's biggest problem with the swiftboating wasn't the content of the ads, but that he looked weak in his response.
September 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see it.
September 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing is to low for John McCunt.
"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup, you cunt." - - John McCunt
An excellent video reminder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo&e
September 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm thinking about ads that rip the shreds out of McPalin's claim to honor, dignity and honesty.
McCain/Palin, America expects better of you.
Or something like that.
September 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this an effective ad? It seems ridiculous to me but I'm hardly undecided.
September 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
The republicans run on fear--9/11, sex, the war on Christmas, etc. They like to make people afraid. That's how they win these things.
September 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's ridiculous.
September 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'd almost think this site was an extension of McCain's...
Yeah, I know, I know, this and other posts are critical of McCain and his ads, but still. Almost every EC feature is about McCain and what he's doing.
Today, Obama released an ad pointing out the lie in the McCain/Palin talking points about them being mavericks and not a word here. Zippo. When Obama is mentioned, more often than not, it's criticism of his campaign.
I don't know if it's some sort of subconscious self-sabotaging or just typical liberal handwringing, but sometimes it's too much to take.
argh
September 9, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel ya.
It's dat old debbil: journalistic neutrality - which is one of the sillier debbils the right ever saddled the American press with.
September 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
That Obama ad was discussed on here yesterday.
September 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
okay, all apologies on missing the feature on it yesterday: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/new_obama_ad_palins_bridgetono.php
overall, though, I still believe my point stands in terms of quantity of coverage from each campaign and the endless handwringing
September 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I totally agree.
September 9, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
incidentally, I think it's a good, very direct ad Obama released today:
https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/thetruth1
thought I'd put the link here for those interested in ads not put out by McCain campaign
September 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would it be unkind to say that perhaps most McCain voters can't read?
September 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is a sell-out. Anything, anything to get elected.
September 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Sam Stein of the Huffingtonpost reported earlier Today that the Obama team is quietly reaching out to the 527s. I guess its not so quiet anymore!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/obama-signal-to-dem-caval_n_125074.html
September 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
well for christ's sake it's about time they attacked his "honor." what honor? his campaign has shown none whatsoever.
September 9, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Question his honor AND question whether he's really in charge. Would John McCain -- the John McCain everyone has known and honored and respected for decades -- ever put out an ad like this? No? Well then if he wouldn't, who is in charge and telling him what to 'approve'???
As I said in a longer post in response to Billy G's post .... I think this "figurehead" image of McCain will concern voters AND (damn it!!) I really think it may be accurate. (Maybe Cheney just couldn't give up power so he found his female counterpart.)
September 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's not in charge. His campaign is run by George Bush advisors.
September 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
As his administration would be.
September 9, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate our politics. And I hate that so many Americans are so stupid that things like this work.
Our society is depressing.
September 9, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. More than anything, that's exactly what I think and feel.
I don't know if I can take much more of this.
September 9, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
this has gotten ridiculous. i've been a big fan of just going with what has worked -- not responding to all the BS the mccain camp throws out there.
but the media has allowed him to get away with SO much, that they now feel like they have free license to lie and smear away, no matter how debasing. and with good reason -- the mccain camp DOES have free license to do so, because only sites like huffpo, kos, and TPM call this shit for what it is.
well, i'm through. no more fucking donations until obama does two things: (1) hits back and hits back FUCKING hard; and (2) goes on offense and starts blistering that old feeb and his trophy VP with the kitchen fucking sink.
i'm so disgusted that it's hard to think cogently.
be that as it may, i've donated close to $1500 (yeah, small, but still something), but not a red cent more until this campaign wakes the fuck up and realizes what's going on, and treats it the way it deserves to be treated -- with the nuclear option. get out the speaking in tongues shit, get out the keating 5 shit, get out the bottled hot water, get out the videos of his reaction to the viagra/birth control questions, get out every goddam clip of him demonstrating his senility, and every goddam clip of her being the completely insane and rookie piece of shit she is.
not a cent. not one red cent. i'm through. i sat through 2000, i sat through 2004. i'm not going to grin and fucking bear it anymore.
September 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is disgusting, and I hope McCain and Palin burn for it.
So this means Republicans are for making pedophilia easier?
September 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
POW! Topic dropped
September 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a g.d. piece of shit is J. McCain. Welcome to another installment of "Destination: Culture Clash"....just another stellar example of our country's fading relevance in the world.
I feel like that American Indian in the commercial from the seventies...where he, with a tear dripping from his eye, looks at the camera over a pile of garbage on an interstate...only the pile of garbage is our political process. Disgusting.
September 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Burton's response was awesome. That is punching that old fart right in the nose.
September 9, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I want to see a quick hit-back ad, not just Burton's response. From Obama and 527s. From both. QUICK ones. And please, never look defensive again, it should be a hard-hit against McCain's personality itself, i.e., what a dishonorable, disgusting and shameless liar he is. He is running his campaign solely on personality, so why not attack his fake "honor" and "dignity"?
September 9, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is distorting Barack Obama record. The bill protects children from molesters. So is John McCain
defending child molesters?
Obama and Biden slammed the reuthug ticket on stem cell and education. So out of anger and frustration the McCain responds by releasing a smear ad. McCain has sold himself to the devil. I hope he enjoys the low-life.
McCain is letting Palin and these meaningless national polls get to jelly brain head.
September 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin and the polls and the End Timers, who are now running his campaign, from what I can tell.
O yeah, he has fucking lost it. Think about it - for 7 years, since 2001, the Repugs have run on one goddamn issue: We can keep you safe; the Democrats can't. That has gotten them close every time - close enough for Rove to step in. The religious right has convinced that fucking senile old maniac that the Culture War is what won for Bush. No it isn't. It was National Security.
They don't have the numbers to win a culture war.
McLame's brain has all leaked out his ear with the lipo they did on his jaws...
September 9, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The bill protects kids from predators. This is just the warm-up. I expect much worse from the rightwing. If Obama and Biden don't begin hitting back, attack-style, instead of just being foreced to respond they will lose. Simple as that. Time is running out.
September 9, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calm down, Barack supporters. Something tells me that another one of Rove's tricks is to see threads like this with people calling for Barack to go nuclear - trying to stir up discontent among his supporters. I'm frustrated too. But I respect our candidate and want him to be someone we all can respect at the end of this. If he turns into a viper that won't necessarily win this. And he'll lose our respect in the process.
September 9, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
that should have read "to seed threads."
September 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. But even the righteous can be damn forceful in their response. The campaign's response was perfect. Attack his honor by using something that happened in a interview. Almost impossible for McCain to respond without drawing even more attention to the Time interview.
September 9, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"even the righteous can be damn forceful in their response"
Absolutely!
September 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like Jesus throwing the moneychangers out of the temple.
September 10, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting how the Obama campaign sat on that one until the time was right.
September 9, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
This just proves what I've been saying: It's time for the Democrats to stop being civil and win this election by utterly and completely eviscerating the opposition.
You can start with 'John McCain eats babies!' and go from there...
Yeah, it's retarded. But you know what? So are most voters, especially the ones who can be swayed by false attack ads late in the campaign. You CAN'T insult their intelligence! It's not possible. Just keep throwing shit and something will stick.
The more ridiculous the better.
September 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this the ad they are planning to run during daytime soaps?
September 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. The racism, even if not consciously intended by the McCain camp,* hit me over the head.
*And even if it wasn't consciously intended, is strong enough that it should have occurred to SOMEONE before they put the ad out.
September 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn! Monster props to the McCain campaign for going over Obama's record and finding stuff they think they can use. This is a good one because it opens up a whole new area of conversation -- sex and sex ed, very emotional topics -- that hasn't been explored yet.
They've essentially opened up a new front.
And look out, here comes Obama's *response!* You know he didn't see this one coming.
Wonder what he's going to have to respond to tomorrow, while he's still putting out the fires from the day before, and the day before that? What other gem have the McCain people found and are busily polishing as we speak?
I loathe republicans and everything they stand for, but damn, they sure do know how to fight. If I didn't know any better I'd say Obama was the wheezing 72-year-old.
September 9, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Vile motherraping swine.
September 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You DUMB, DUMB FUCKERS.
DON'T YOU ALL REALIZE THAT THIS AD WILL WORK? THIS ISN'T A JOKE. JOHN MCCAIN WILL WIN THIS ELECTION PRECISELY BECAUSE OF ADS LIKE THIS. DO YOU REALLY TRUST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE THROUGH THEIR LIES? WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN OVER THE PAST 14 YEARS THAT COULD POSSIBLY JUSTIFY THAT TRUST?
WE'RE DOING IT TO OURSELVES. WE'RE KILLING OUR COUNTRY AND WE WILL HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT US.
September 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. Quit screaming at us
2. Quit pressuring me to be worried. It's bullshit
3. Fuck off if that's all you have
September 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
After 14 years of the same shit, you're not worried? That is the height of stupidity.
September 9, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
God damn it, the fucking hand-wringers are back in force, aren't they?
Holy crap, people. Just slap yourselves, two or three times if need be.
I realize the ad is pissing you off, but calling for Obama to go all scorched earth is what McCain wants you - and Obama - to do.
Ever hear the old saying that starts 'Never wrestle with a pig?' Well, McCain wants O to get down in that shit-hole with him, because that's the only place McCain's got a fucking chance to win.
(Tena - none of this is directed at you. This just seemed to be a good jumping off point to rant.)
Where's NC Steve? We need one of his righteous reality checks about now.
September 9, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stranger, what you fail to realize is that it's the only place that we have a chance to win. If the nice candidate, the honorable candidate, the truthful candidate, the good candidate, the clean candidate, if that candidate EVER won, we wouldn't have had the last 4 years of George Bush.
Obama won't win by standing tall. Standing tall just makes him a bigger target for all the mud McCain is throwing his way, and as long as McCain is the only one throwing it, he will be the only one without any on him.
September 9, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's not mix metaphors:
You say, "Never wrestle with a pig."
But this is a wrestling match. We don't have a choice about that. We must wrestle. As it turns out, our opponent happens to be a pig.
But if we don't wrestle, then we lose by default.
That's what's at stake here.
September 9, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
You said it yourself. McCain wants to stir up dissension - among supporters.
Folks, we are rightly outraged. But we need to keep our cool as well. Our guy has a cool and level head. We're going to do our best to win this. But we also need to win with dignity.
September 9, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thera, much love and respect, but what will your integrity be worth when John McCain takes the oath of office on January 20, 2009?
September 9, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should ask the converse of your self - If you impunge your honor and integrity and Obama is elected, of what worth is you honor and integrity then?
Our President runs for re-election every four years and only gets two terms. Who you are sticks with you much longer for most.
September 11, 2008 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
So did McCain vote against this bill to protect children from sexual predators? Is there an ad there?
Or is it just that R's who voted for the bill voted to protect children, while D's who voted for it wanted to pollute children's minds?
September 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080909/pl_politico/20934_1
September 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
And fuck you, fogu.
I don't give a shit what some woman says who backed Hillary.
Geraldine Ferraro, racist extradordinaire backed Hillary.
September 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are a misogynist.
September 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Ferraro was correct.
September 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Ferraro was correct.
September 9, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, it ain't Emily's List but I predicted a progressive feminist organization would support Palin. BINGO!
September 9, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not in so many words. They're supporting her femininity. Not her policies.
September 9, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is an impossibility for a true progressive to support Palin. Oh, no wait, maybe they can get the Progressives for Thatcher to fly over from England to give them some pointers on how they can politically support someone is against all of their basic principles.
September 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, but any woman who is willing to hand over control of her reproductive rights to the government is neither progressive nor feminist.
And for good measure....fuck off.
September 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was from Shakesville, and they are *not* supporting Palin politically. They're not suggesting anyone vote for her. They're saying people shouldn't be sexist, not that people should be idiots.
You, fogu, are proof that people are still free to be idiots.
September 9, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are a reprehensible douche, who has the mental capacity of a thimble. BINGO.
September 9, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alan Keyes first used this attack in the Illinois primaries. Barack Obama explained what it was that the vote was for. The Illinois voters understood. Evidently Mitt Romney didn't. He brought it back up in the primaries this year.
http://thatsrightnate.com/2008/04/12/obama-favors-kindergarten-sex-ed/
September 9, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Definitely agree with comment that a 527 should come back with an ad asking whether McCain supports child molesters.
September 9, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it's better phrased as "I'd like to know why John McCain thinks I should have voted against protecting children from child predators."
September 9, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is all part of the effort to make the campaign about obama being an extremist and "not one of us."
this ALL has racist overtones. that has been mccain's goal from the start. it's all about race. hillary knew this when she said she was more electable, she just couldn't give the reason why. the one thing the gop understands is just how racist this country is and they are doing everything they can to exploit it. i am a solid obama supporter but i think his road is going to be far more difficult than most people realize.
September 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is all part of the effort to make the campaign about obama being an extremist and "not one of us."
this ALL has racist overtones. that has been mccain's goal from the start. it's all about race. hillary knew this when she said she was more electable, she just couldn't give the reason why. the one thing the gop understands is just how racist this country is and they are doing everything they can to exploit it. i am a solid obama supporter but i think his road is going to be far more difficult than most people realize.
September 9, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad is laughable. Not really far from "he'll turn your kids into muslims and punch a baby in the face"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7bzdj9RlG4
September 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, something just dawned on me:
Obama doesn't have an oppo research team.
Holy mother of God, we are so hosed.
September 9, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
haha! What a ridiculous statement.
September 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
O man - give me a fucking break please.
This has gotten childish.
Either pull up your socks and snap out of it or goddamn, the conversation isn't worth it.
September 9, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who is in charge of his oppo research team? You know, the one who is in charge of going over McCain's voting record in his 26 years in the house/senate?
I would seriously just like that person's name so I can learn more about them.
September 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who is in charge of his oppo research team? You know, the one who is in charge of going over McCain's voting record in his 26 years in the house/senate?
I would seriously just like that person's name so I can learn more about them.
September 9, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you high?
September 9, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
So now will Dems please stop referring to McCain as a man of honor and how much they all like him??
September 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably.
September 9, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please please please!
September 9, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never did like him. Don't view him as a man of honor either. He was POW. Doesn't make him a saint!
September 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, a little sex education might have helped the Palins -- mother and daughter.
September 9, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well at least this ad has the "Palin effect" on me; I instantly made another donation to the Obama campaign (just as I did right after Palin's convention speech). And I'm sure quite a few other BO supporters have done/will do so in response to this ad, no? Sure, those right-wing nutjobs may be being rejoiced to see the ad, but I think it really makes Obama supporters angry and fired up as well.
Barack, get pissed off! Don't ever look dismissive. Attack!
September 9, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
How is it that in a country with the most universities in the world we have the most ignorant and MORONIC people in the world?!?!?
Shouldn't that be the opposite that America should have the best and the brightest?
This is just fucking mind boggling the stupidity in this fucking country.
They just suck the air out the room.
"The Truth is Irrelevant - Palin/McCain 08"
September 9, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
once you look into the abyss...it looks back.
September 9, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget the rape jokes. Always a family-friendly topic for humor.
September 9, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's time for a commercial featuring the John McKept joke book: (the rape "joke" and the Chelsea-when-she-was-freakin'-12 "joke").
And run THAT during daytime TV.
September 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank You! This is how incredibly lame the McCrazies are...they don't even get the irony of their own damn ad. Criticizing sex-ed when you've got a knocked-up minor at home is just beyond hilarious.
September 9, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Responses should come in the debates. It is not enough to be right on the issues. Obama must define McCain and make it stick. Every day, same definition.
Bush is Roy Rogers. McCain is his sidekick, Gabby Hayes. Palin is Dale Evans, queen of the cowgirls. Why turn the future into a farce?
September 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
ADVERTISEMENT:
"Barack Obama stood strong against child sex predators in the Illinois state legislature. Now, John McCain is lying about Obama's record as a desperate last ditch effort. Child sex predators are real, even if John McCain doesn't think so. Politicians lying for power? Just more of the same."
September 9, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
DOESN'T WORK.
The Ad needs to be this:
The only way to beat them is to be more despicable than they are.
September 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are an idiot
September 9, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I am angry. This is PURE FUCKING RAGE. Rage at the futility of blogs. Rage at the recurring weaknesses of Democratic candidates.
September 9, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
You fuckwit.
If you think that the first biracial presidential candidate got where he was being weak - you need remedial thinking lessons.
Jesus - the idiotic things that are said. Barack Obama is weak. Yeah. That's how he fucking got where he is -
You are so out of your class. He would hustle the living fuck right out of your ass. You have no idea what Obama can do -
September 9, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe the stupidity of your comment. Let's review:
You can't even read, can you Hussein? There is a difference between having weaknesses and being weak.
Intelligence is not one of Obama's weaknesses, and as far as I can tell he got where he is by being smart. But being smart can be it's own weakness. Just as actually being honorable. Now is not the time for intelligence or honor. This is an election.
Really? You really think this is some sort of competition between me and Barack Obama? Really? You think I need to worry about Barack Obama "hustling the living fuck right out of my ass"? What world do you live in? You're right, I have no idea what Obama can do, because he hasn't fucking done anything. Why don't you tell me what he can do.
Can he shoot fireballs out of his mouth? Can he bend the minds of men? What exactly can Barack Obama do? More importantly, when is he going to do it? Before November I hope.
September 9, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It had better be before mid-October, because as one commentator pointed out this morning, with so many places in the country now offering early voting, where the polls are by about October 15th is pretty much going to determine the outcome of the election.
September 10, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a video press release aimed at getting free airtime. Stop hyperventilating.
September 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's time to dust off the old Keating 5 folder and the filandering husband folder.
September 9, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok by me.
September 9, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. McCain must be made an example for those who dare to do this kind of crap.
September 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
September 9, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting that Keyes was the first to raise this--anyone think McCain will cite that fact when someone objects to the uncomfortable racial overtones of this ad?
September 9, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
"my Muslim faith"
September 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh freaking please. You must typing at an internet cafe on the Iraq-Pakistan border.
September 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the Willie Horton ad of this campaign.
The statement is good, but it's not enough.
As Denzel said in "The Siege":
"The first 24 hours are the only 24 hours"
Obama must take care of this himself.
September 9, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
In essence, McCain is saying, he protects molesters.
Obama Ad:
" McCain wants to expose America's children to molesters."
September 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I approve that message...
September 9, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the sort of stuff this same bunch pulled against McCain himself in 2000.
At his convention, McCain talked movingly about how his Vietnamese captors had "broken" him.
Looks like John is still broken.
September 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Rethuglacin's have no FUCKING SHAME.
Nice add there Honor McShame.
Mercy!
September 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
So sys the mysterious Barry "my Muslim faith" Soetoro:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080909/ap_on_el_pr/obama_palin_11
September 9, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are annoying.
September 9, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is so pathetic. Since you're staying with the same "witty" attack, can you tell me what the weather is like there on the Iraq-Pakistan border. Or maybe you're in Czechoslavakia. What's it like in Czechoslavakia? Nice country, huh?
September 9, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
fogus,
Alright already, we get it, u don't like B.Obama. Can't u go troll somewhere else?
September 9, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I like it here. It's my fan base!
September 9, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink