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NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama Clings To Narrow Lead Over McCain

The new NBC/Wall St. Journal poll suggest John McCain's bounce isn't as big as other polls have said, with Obama still holding on to a narrow lead.

The numbers: Obama 47%, McCain 46%, with a ±3.3% margin of error. About three weeks ago, Obama had a 45%-42% lead.

The poll confirms what other surveys have found, that the selection of Sarah Palin has helped McCain make inroads with women voters. Obama led by 14 points among women in the last poll, but now that lead is down to four points.

The poll also shows a boost in enthusiasm for McCain, with 34% of his backers being enthusiastic about him, with 44% satisfied and 22% picking him as the lesser of two evils. Three weeks ago his voters were at only 12% enthusiastic, 46% satisfied, and 41% lesser of two evils.

But Obama's supporters are still more jazzed up. His voters are 55% enthusiastic, 33% satisfied, and only 12% lesser of two evils.


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AHHH the roof looks like it is losing support. Not falling yet, but certainly unstable and I'm VERY worried!!

I hear you. Only a one point lead! Everybody run before we get crushed in the collapse!!

Well NBC/WSJ poll (Obama +1) seems to confirm that the RNC bounce has passed and the race has returned to where it was before the conventions

Kicking AP off the Lipsticked Pig Express may well mean only one thing...McSame is setting the media up for another stunner


Setting us up for Live Sex Acts..a nasty October surprise

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I thought that was supposed to be the Lipsticked PitBull Express.

I think when november comes, with new voter registration and the fact that cell phone only folks aren't accounted in the polls, will show obama has a big win.

Meghan McCain Sticks Major Ass in Her Mouth

And she has the nerve of saying: "My father is a famous war hero."

Famous! Famous!!! Did she mean he is a "Celebrity"???

Oh, no! Not that!

Registering a voter doesn't make that same person roll out of bed to stand in line at the polling place. And give up on the cell phone crap--all of the valid polls adjust for cell phones.


"N-n-now th-that that don't kill me
Can only make me stronger"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZd1Js0QaOI

"Take this, haters"

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This poll suggests to me that going after Palin is the key to winning. Without her as a "trophy" one trick pony, he's sunk.

Yup, McCain is clearly relying on her dragging his listless campaign (and body) across the finish line.

After the last two weeks this poll is looking pretty good. I'll bet that number of Palin women fans shrinks as people get to know her Neanderthal politics.

Pufferfish

She is at the height of popularity. The info that comes out now will only serve to whittle her favorability rating one point at a time.

If the ABC interviews are puffy enough her ratings may stay high for a while...

W got the "he'd be a great guy to have a beer with vote." Palin seems to appeal to the "she'd be a great gal to have coffee with" vote. And though its a risky game, I play up the petty, vindictive side of her may be the way to peel them away.

The media is single-handedly holding Palin up.

Here is what I just cut and pasted from the CNN home page:

# McCain takes lead in national polls
# Biden's comments called 'a new low'
# Ticker: Palin's surprising effect on women
# Commentary: 'Femball' may help Palin

Who do you think the media is favoring?

7 things to watch as the fall race kicks off

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3FE30557-18FE-70B2-A8EF2DEF93E4DDD1

Some GOP analysts fret that her popularity has nowhere to go but down, as moderate women become more familiar with her staunch anti-abortion stance. And some are concerned that the conservative evangelicals who make up the party’s base — so jazzed by Palin’s selection — could sink back into a funk when they remember that Palin was just an appetizer while McCain remains the main course.


(From the rightwing plant, The Politico, who pretend they're not. So they should know what the GOP thinks -- they are the GOP.)

I hate close elections.

I really hate them.

I hear ya Alex, but I don't think any of us in our wildest dreams seriously thought that the first black candidate for President would win by a landslide.

FIRED UP!!!
READY TO GO!!!

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They're just fine by me as long as we win--so what's an ulcer if there's a happy ending?

But...

I can relate. I plan on being heavily sedated come November 4th. (AFTER I vote, that is.)

Robert

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And the women - they are deserting him! O alas! O ruin!

The horror. The horror.

The womenfolk are all lining up behind their new champion, the pistol-packing, moose-shooting mama from the Frozen North, the spectacularly mavericky Klondike Barbie!

TPM should look at that Huffingtonpost story up about CBS and USATODAY messing with Party IDs, in a country where democrats outnumber republicans by 11 million, they are basically giving the party's equal weight.

no wonder McCain is leading in some polls

Holy Kramerica, the Messiah has returned. And she can kill wolves. From an airplane.

Is this writers function only to post bad Obama poll numbers to piss people off? Is he a concern troll or what?

Eric is TPM's staff concern troll.

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Indeed. And he likes his job. You can tell.

;)


(poor Eric - he'd have to with the abuse that comes with it)

Would it hurt to post some good Obama polls once in a while with a positive spin? I mean this is a left-leaning site. C'mon give me some catnip.

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Fear is a great motivator, or so I hear.
You just can't let it rule you.
"Fear is the mind killer ..."
If you know the phrase, you'll recall that the basic thrust of the exercise is to chill the fuck out.

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CTFO -- SGTM!

No, in Eric's World, McCain "surges" to one-point leads; Obama "clings" to them.

McCain's bounce isn't stable enough to last through the remaining weeks. Many of these polls NBC/WSJ not included, are outliers, over sampling republicans and underestimating the youth, black and latino vote.

I just heard an interview with Robert Gibbs, the Obama campaign communication director, on NPR with Robert Siegel. He didn't sound very confident in the Obama strategy for focusing solely on McCain, rather he was defensive and repetitive. I would suggest that now is the time to discredit Palin and remove the dressing behind which McCain now hides.

The Obama strategy team told us they won't make the mistakes of 2004. They told us, 'if the opposing brings a knife to a fight, they (Obama) will bring a gun.' But so far we haven't seen neither tactics. The problem is not the message its the messenger. Obama has surrounded himself with a team of green tactions instead of the old guard veteran democratic strategists for e.g. the Bagela's Carvilles, Ickes and yes, the Penns.

Look at where Gibbs, Plouffee and others come from.
At one time these men worked for Gephardt and Daschle. Daschle who lost his seat to a moronic republican and Gephardt won ran and lost the democratic presidential primary twice.

Right. The Bagelas, Carvilles, Ickes and Penns were brilliant in the way they navigated the mighty Clinton machine to winning to primary. Poor Obama. What will he do without them?

He's down by 11 in Montana now!!! That was supposed to be Obama's! Our once great empire is crumbling around us and we can only watch the pieces fall apart unless we are lucky enough that a chunk of debris hits us in the head and knocks us unconscious for at least a few sweet moments of escape from this nightmare!

Why!!??? What did we do to deserve this?!?

Trailerville,

The Montana Poll was taken by Rasmussen/Fox News, so take the poll for what its worth...not much.

I know, I'm being facetious.

The doom and gloom has gotten pretty heavy around here lately, so it can be tough to tell the difference.

There's some telling information in that poll. Obama still leads on the change message and McCain is seen as holding the same views as Bush by a significant majority (74%).

I can live with this situation.

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I can live with this situation too inasmuch as it is presently September 9, and the election is still 55 days away...


She just got the nomination. The conventions just ended.


YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!

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The reassuring number here is that Obama is leading even with only a 4% lead among women. Most of the women will come back. Once the public is aware of Palin rapist-friendly social policy (make rape victims pay for their own rape-kits, make rape victims carry any children conceived to term), I think Obama's lead among women will expand again and with it Obama's lead overall.

If in this poll it looks like Obama is only a couple of points behind among men, and he retains that margin while returning to a significant lead among women, this could easily be a 53/47 election, giving Obama 300+ votes in the Electoral College.

Other breaking news which I expect will help Obama, Ron Paul has announced he will not be endorsing McCain, saying his supporters should vote for thrid party candidates, which I can only assume mostly go to Bob Barr who is running under the flag of Paul's former party, the Libertarians.

O'm sure their internal polls are saying the same thing, hence the sick and wrong add on the previous thread.

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A more appropriate headline:

McCain Bounce Subsides

someone tell me why is a bureaucrat is somehow negative? McCain says this in his stump speeches often as a negative for Obama.

bureaucrat - Government employee who follows a rigid procedure in administering the responsibilities of a position. A classical bureaucrat follows a set of rules and procedures in an impersonal manner. A bureaucrat is a career professional evaluated on the basis of merit and skill.

Now if George W. Bush, Cheney, Rove, and McCain himself had followed policy and not act on their morals and ideologies America wouldn't be in such a financial hole that we're in right now.

I just got finished phone banking with voters in Virginia. Although there were some hard-liners, one woman,voting for Obama, still did not know about Sarah Palin's views on choice, global warming or the Bridge to Nowhere. She was quite concerned about the choice issue, and I asked her to talk to her friends who like Sarah Palin. Also one man I talked to told me he's voting for McCain because (and I paraphrase) "he's all Mavricky and stuff". Actually, he was very intelligent and articulate, so we had a long conversation about veteran's benefits. I asked him to please check these issues out, because it's too important to vote without vetting our candidates. And maybe he'll do that.

Please people, start doing this! It will get out information to the voters that isn't being told, and will make you feel one hell of a lot beter.

He's totally Mavericky! And POWy!

Except for a few things that scary black man keeps referencing these days.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/toles_main.html?name=Toles&date=09052008&type=c

Politics are inherently antagonistic and combative, it is inherently a game of mobilizing grievances and resentments. The Republicans realized this a long time ago. Why it has taken the dems so long to figure this out is beyond me. Populist rhetoric is inherently antagonistic but there are different types of populisms. The Right, not wanting to threaten the power of the financial and corporate elite, has, since Nixon, employed a cultural form (as opposed to economic) of populism and it has worked. The Left not only needs to engage the culture war head on rather than denying it exists if they want to defuse the Palin-effect but also needs to present an alternative type of populism.
Why doesn't the Obama campaign focus on how investing in green technologies and green jobs can make our country a nation of PRODUCERS again, like in the time of the greatest generation. Why doesn't Obama use a type of nationalist-populist rhetoric that is based on domestic production ("made in America") and call out McCain for being a PRO-EXPORTATION politician? Republican's do not only oppose greater energy independence but also greater industrial independence. America has a long populist history based around the producer ethic, i.e. the dignity in production and the producer classes, speak to it or let this b.s. culture war populism of the Right win the day AGAIN!

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Oh, yes, I've been saying this for several years. Populism was inevitably going to bite us if we didn't figure out how to use it first. We need an alternative narrative. It's too late for for 2008, but why the heck we didn't figure this out after 2004 is as mysterious as the latest cave on SCHIP. A party that can't win points on sick kids, is a party that is clueless when it comes to story telling and we aren't winning any culture war until we can tell Americans a story about who we are and what we believe.

I'm not in the know or anything, but my opinion on why the Democrats didn't push SCHIP again this fall is to tie McCain's opposition to it and endorsement of Bush's veteo around McCain-Palin's collective neck. If they brought it to the floor, you'd better believe McCain would have found a way to support it to neutralize his previous vote.

Like I said, though, that's just my opinion.

You are right. This is another example of the current Dems in Congress screwing Obama (the other was FISA, which I believe they brought to the floor only to force him to either vote yes or deal with the soft on terrorism charges).

The others who are criticizing him for not espousing an economic populism are wrong, however. Watch clips of his appearances, and when he's not responding to the smear du jour, he's setting out policies desigend to benefit the middle and working class.

Just because the media would rather make this about Sarah Palin's moosehunting doesn't mean that that is all Obama is talking about.

That poll also reveals voters are increasingly more comfortable with Obama as C-in-C and relate to his values and background.

It's encouraging, and not discouraging.

Two months left.

And seriously-- Obama was never going to win Montana. He could have kept it close, but Palin hurt that effort. The state hadn't polled in ages.

And buckle up! Now Drudge is trying--trying-- to say Obama called Palin a pig. What a country.

What could the McCain campaign possibly say?

"She's not a pig! She's a dog! A female dog! A bit- oh wait..."

HE IS DESPERATLEY TRYING TO STIR UP SHIT.

journalists BETTER have the integrity to callt hat shit out or else this wil be

Drudge is irrelevant. Nobody really listen to that 'Pig' anymore.

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A pit bull! With lipstick!

Drudge is a fucking idiot. Just like Halperin.

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I suggest nobody pay any attention to any poll for at least a week. Everything coming out right now is skewed by the convention and the Palin newness. If McCain's numbers hold up over the next week, then I'll worry. But a week is a long time.

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I mean!

The hysteria is on the verge of being all the way up to Pedro Almodovar level.

This is getting really farcical.

I expect to receive a fundraising email any minute now from Plouffe. Obama needs a $100MM month and I think this McCain ad just might do the trick.

I just gave $200 to the Obama campaign and will be phone banking every evening I can spare and going door-to-door on weekends. The ground game and voter turnout are going to be the things that win this thing.

I just gave $200 to the Obama campaign and will be phone banking every evening I can spare and going door-to-door on weekends. The ground game and voter turnout are going to be the things that win this.

McCain uses phrase "Lipstick on a pig"

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/obama_did_not_call_sarah_palin.php

John McCain. Speaking about Hillary Clinton....

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health-care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

In the finance industry we call this McCain's "Dead Cat Bounce".

His stock is about to crash.

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n a year in which Democrats have a lead of 11 million registered-voters over Republicans, and have been adding to that advantage through a robust field operation, are pollsters over-sampling Republicans?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/poll-madness-mccain-takes_n_125158.html


We have registered record numbers of new Democratic voters while the GOP has lost over half as many as we've gained.

The polls are bullshit.

This is why people shouldn't be freaking out from these polls. Millions of new voters is Obama's trump card. Dont believe the hype!

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I"m not guaranteeing those people will vote, but I will guarantee you that if they'd been polled they wouldn't have said McLame.

McCain and Sarah P have got all the mo heading into the stretch. What's Obama got? Tired old Biden, who's had so many facelifts he looks like a defective mannequin. Sarah P's got more executive experience than the other three combined, and the only thing Obama's ever authored is his novels. A babe in the White House is something I could definitely live with. Of course, chuavinist liberals and their Stepford wives would probably have a problem with this.

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O bite me!

Go fuck yourself Repub Troll.

WTF? Michelle and Jill are the stepford wives? This must be a lame attempt at snark.

Cindy, put that thing away before someone sees you!

Huge swing there Eric

As for the "enthusiasm" meme - pure bunkum

It is entirely a function of whether a candidate's supporters think she has a chance to win

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I disagree. I think that's only a factor.

Just one.

That is some of the lamest trolling I've seen yet.

Maybe we should rate the trolling? I give this one an "F".

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I keep sayin - Josh has the dumbest fucking trolls on the internets.

And I didn't think it was possible to top some I've seen elsewhere in the past x number of years.

But these do - they take the prize.

Don, tell them what they have won.

Well, Burt, they've just won two fully-paid tickets to a Bridge to Nooooooooooooowhere. And they'll be travelling with a per diem courtsey of the Governor's office of Alaska, the only place in America where the Governor will pay you for the legs of wolves. Back to you Burt.

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Been to HuffPo lately?

I tried to read the comments at HuffPo a couple times and was bored and annoyed. I was just referring to TPM.

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I don't read the comments.

The poll confirms what other surveys have found, that the selection of Sarah Palin has helped McCain make inroads with women voters. Obama led by 14 points among women in the last poll, but now that lead is down to four points.

Eric, the poll you're siting doesn't break down the women vote. Where do you get your women breakdown from? Are you espoucing washington conventional talk? or are you extrapolating gallup poll to mean NBC poll? Please explain?

btw, how's that whole Rezco thing going for ya?

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Who's that?

God you are the lamest motherfucker I've ever seen try to troll a board!

So it wasn't just me that was thinking that.

Word. Dumb MoFo.

Okay, Erik, I appreciate that you intentionally ignored the MSM convention that says if McCain leads by a poll, the headline is "McCain Pulls Ahead," but if Obama is ahead by a point, its "Dead Heat!" Really, I do. But did you have to use the "C" word?

Maybe he's 'bitter'?

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Actually, the "McCain vaults " got to me.

Dear Barack Obama,

I saw you on Keith Olbermann the other day. I can't remember a thing you said.

I remember every clear word from Keith, his thinly disguised pleas to *just do it*!

My TV is frothing over with McCain ads. I hope Adam McKay is wrong, but I FEEL he is dead on: "We're gonna friggin' lose this thing." http://tinyurl.com/dems-be-sober

Here, now I've donated 50 bucks. Go buy an ad or something.

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O god, if we don't get some relief from these damn concern trolls...

In northern New Mexico, every time they run a lame McLame ad, they follow it with one from Obama.

I don't know where you are, but I really have a hard time believing there aren't any Obama ads.

I'd love to see that. I don't. But I'm in Cali. I'm just feeling the Kerry/Gore/Dukakis/Mondale juju all over again, and it's getting me really worried. Obama is a good candidate. McCain is weak. Palin is horrible on paper, with emerging evidence of a horrible personality to match.

Obama should be a shoe-in. Should be. But in your gut you know why he's not. Other than the occasional big heart zinger (like his and the other convention speeches *that counted*), it's that Dem head-trumps-heart juju in play again, and it's killing Obama. It's killing me.

P.S. I'm not a troll.

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well, if you read the thread, you will understand why I thought so.

Cali is Obama's so you won't see any ads. Here in Indiana I see them all the time (also get those blasted John Bush ads.)

Same here in Ohio.
Obama ads are now outplaying the McBush ads.

Seeing plenty of Obama ads in Colorado.

Curious -- are they convincing?

Here in CA we don't see McCain or Obama ads. Not on my cable shows, anyway.

it is hard to win when the ref is on the other team. that is our problem. let's not blame ourselves ever. or we will have been divided and conquered. obama is our coach. play hard.

The reason we're not seeing ads in CA is because CA is comfortably blue.
We should count our blessings ;)

If I were the average, low-info voter, here is what I would absorb. (Remember, many of our fellow citizens have no clue what or who hurts/helps them)

McCreep:
POW
Maverick
Country First
Drill Here, Drill Now
Thanks but no thanks (Palin)

Obama:
Change

Add in the the State/Corporate Media and their propaganda, and what will the average LV go for? Yup, yup.

Unless the low info voter is looking at losing their house and/or job, has no medical insurance and is in bad health, lives in a part of the country that is imploding (eg the rust belt), etc etc. When times are good it is easy to hear just the one liners, but where I live people are seriously freaking out not just about their own situation but their entire community, state and region.

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You know, when things are all fucked up like they are, there really aren't any low information voters.

Everyone feels inflation. Everyone knows the economy is screwed up. Everyone knows they are paying a lot of money for gas. Lots of people you would probably consider low information voters are the very people who got the stupid variable rate mortgages that caused them to lose their homes.


Actually, the NBC/WSJ poll was ONLY cell users. If they had a land line they terminated the call.

What that means is that you are right, when we look at those who have only land lines the polls are off. But I'm not sure exactly what it means when it is only cell phones. If you look at the list of people I was shocked at how many people over 65 had cell phones (and actually answered the phone!).

I think the Obama campaign is on top of it all, really, REALLY knows what the real numbers are, and that we will have an Obama / Biden White House.

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I'm saying it now: President Barack H. Obama, Jr., 2009 - 2017

That's my point. Even when people are literally in a hole, they still can't seem to figure it out. If it was just a matter of economics, 98 percent of the country would be for Obama. But that isn't the case.

If you were around during the Reagan years, what do you remember? The "Trickle Down" theory. Many, many people, including some of the most respected economists STILL believe that garbage to this day. It never did work and it never will work, but the point is, the saying stuck in the minds of the people. Let's face it, a huge percentage of Americans are not exactly deep thinkers. And that's putting it as kindly as I can. These same people voted in Reagan, BushI and BushII. And a lot of them are primed and ready to do it all over again.

OMG.

Halperin on CNN said that McCain complains about the lipstick on a pig comments are "Crocodile tears"

Am I dreaming? Am I dead?

For the record: Halperin still sucks and he's an idiot.

Even a blind squirrel will find a nut.

He occassionally pretends to be reasonable, just to give more cred for his "in the tank" hacky days

Why would polling contacts with land line users be terminated?

Some cannot afford cell phones. Some do not want to put up with the hassles of miniaturized technology and one year contracts and continuing charges after you terminate or fail to renew your contract. Others wish to avoid microwave radiation right next to their cranium.

What do the polling statisticians know that we don't?

As I called it earlier, Obama's response about McCain's honor and the sex-we ad was POW POW POW'd!!

Here's one for Eric:

http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

Presidential Race Remains Close, 45% McCain-Palin - 44% Obama-Biden

Enthusiasm Gap Remains Between Supporters of the Two Candidates

Enthusiasm Gap Remains. The poll finds that an "enthusiasm gap" remains between supporters of the two candidates, with 55% of McCain-Palin voters and 64% of Obama-Biden voters saying they are "enthusiastically supporting" their candidate.

As a result, among all voters who enthusiastically support their candidates, the Obama-Biden ticket holds a slight 53%-47% edge over the McCain-Palin ticket that is currently within the margin of error. (n=482 registered voters, margin of error +/-4.5%)

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The thing is, all these narrow polls sets things up for the thugs to steal another election.

If the polls are close, and we wake up on the morning of Nov. 3rd with McCain having won the election, will people object? En mass?

If the polls were close, they'll except the results - and we'll have another stollen election, and 8 more years of Republican rule.

Personally, at that point, unless you like the idea of living in Brazil, or Mexico or someother banana republic, anyone who can get out of the country and get legal residence in another country should. I would recommend New Zealand or Australia: they speak English, rely on exporting raw products to developing markets in Asia, have lots of room for new comers. Canada is too close to the U.S. - and could be drawn down with our implosion. The fork in the road gets wider with each election that the Republicans win, from 2000 on out. 2000 was a coup. This is a high stakes election. It will take huge numbers to reverse the tide. At one point I thought Obama, with his charisma, could pull off a land slide which is what would be required. At this point, I don't think that is possible. This is a high stakes election. Crap!

Those sneaky bastards!
They actually changed the date of the election?
Will they stop at nothing?


McCain is OLD ... way too old for the job.

The age-based attack on McCain should start today.

The man is living in the past.
He is too old and stubborn to learn anything new. He never was bright in the first place.
His health is bad.
He lacks the stamina required.
He will be easy to manipulate.
He could get confused and frustrated.

Hit him with the age issue and never stop.

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The thing is, all these narrow polls sets things up for the thugs to steal another election.

If the polls are close, and we wake up on the morning of Nov. 3rd with McCain having won the election, will people object? En mass?

If the polls were close, they'll except the results - and we'll have another stollen election, and 8 more years of Republican rule.

Personally, at that point, unless you like the idea of living in Brazil, or Mexico or someother banana republic, anyone who can get out of the country and get legal residence in another country should. I would recommend New Zealand or Australia: they speak English, rely on exporting raw products to developing markets in Asia, have lots of room for new comers. Canada is too close to the U.S. - and could be drawn down with our implosion. The fork in the road gets wider with each election that the Republicans win, from 2000 on out. 2000 was a coup. This is a high stakes election. It will take huge numbers to reverse the tide. At one point I thought Obama, with his charisma, could pull off a land slide which is what would be required. At this point, I don't think that is possible. This is a high stakes election. Crap!

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The thing is, all these narrow polls sets things up for the thugs to steal another election.

If the polls are close, and we wake up on the morning of Nov. 3rd with McCain having won the election, will people object? En mass?

If the polls were close, they'll except the results - and we'll have another stollen election, and 8 more years of Republican rule.

Personally, at that point, unless you like the idea of living in Brazil, or Mexico or someother banana republic, anyone who can get out of the country and get legal residence in another country should. I would recommend New Zealand or Australia: they speak English, rely on exporting raw products to developing markets in Asia, have lots of room for new comers. Canada is too close to the U.S. - and could be drawn down with our implosion. The fork in the road gets wider with each election that the Republicans win, from 2000 on out. 2000 was a coup. This is a high stakes election. It will take huge numbers to reverse the tide. At one point I thought Obama, with his charisma, could pull off a land slide which is what would be required. At this point, I don't think that is possible. This is a high stakes election. Crap!

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The thing is, all these narrow polls sets things up for the thugs to steal another election.

If the polls are close, and we wake up on the morning of Nov. 3rd with McCain having won the election, will people object? En mass?

If the polls were close, they'll except the results - and we'll have another stollen election, and 8 more years of Republican rule.

Personally, at that point, unless you like the idea of living in Brazil, or Mexico or someother banana republic, anyone who can get out of the country and get legal residence in another country should. I would recommend New Zealand or Australia: they speak English, rely on exporting raw products to developing markets in Asia, have lots of room for new comers. Canada is too close to the U.S. - and could be drawn down with our implosion. The fork in the road gets wider with each election that the Republicans win, from 2000 on out. 2000 was a coup. This is a high stakes election. It will take huge numbers to reverse the tide. At one point I thought Obama, with his charisma, could pull off a land slide which is what would be required. At this point, I don't think that is possible. This is a high stakes election. Crap!

This should be the last time that McCain even gets close in the polls. He released an ad today claiming that a bill Obama passed (which required teachers to teach young children what inapproriate behaviors they should report, to protect them from child molesters) was intended to "teach sex education to children before they can read."

I'm sorry if it offends you, McSame, but I don't want my children molested. Of course if you want to see the effects of promoting ignorance over education, you only need to look at Palin's family.

McCain is just like Rove, but without honor - Rove never pretended to be a decent human being. Being a POW doesn't make you a good person. BEING A GOOD PERSON makes you a good person. Please go home McCain. Obama will finance the Veteran's benefits you've opposed for so long, so there's really no need for you to work.

Anyone know what party ID representation was like in this poll?

I'm pretty sure a large percentage of the general public is ready for election to get here, all of those preemptive polls are just creating this media monster roller coaster.

I've stayed quiet about his, but I got to speak on what I think here - if its winded and it bothers you ignore it. Peripheral issues aside, and with all due respect to McCain's POW status, I simply think that Obama is a better man for the job. I really think although the recession is imminent, the dollar will fall further (despite recent surges) with McCain in office, we need a split house, and I think that we need better positioning and standing globally.

I think Obama has the U.S.'s long-term interest in mind, and his diplomatic and dynamic abilities will serve us better in terms of handling the recession, recalibrating the U.S. economy, trade negotiation and I think he's got the backbone to step up in conflict. IMHO think with McCain/Palin in office, they will concentrate on short-term conflicts and drive the U.S. into the toilet. On a very raw level, I think Obama is just better for the job. I'm confident about Biden as well, and feel they would make heady decisions on appointing the cabinet members.

The race issue is large. I think there are Americans that worry that with a black in power and with the rising minority population in the U.S., that somehow the white guys are going to get the shaft and suddenly orange county will be nola with everyone complaining about taxes. I'm just trying to be funny, but I'm not making light of NOLA in any way. Obama isn't really THAT liberal and while the rich will be taxed as, uh, THEY ALREADY ARE, the imbalance that is created when taxes are scaled further in the upper percentage's favor actually makes the U.S. lose out more in the end IMO. If youre rich you, for the most part, will be fine. There's always something to gripe about. I think most of the noise made about that is going to be new money, (and this is coming from somebody that's not rich, comes from an upper middle class family, and will be rich someday), people that don't really care about what happens to the U.S. and this is a paradoxical thing that gives me a huge headache. Alot of people simply don't care, are lazy as hell, and think the government is going to handle everything. That by McCain and Palin "taking the bully approach", the U.S. will be protected and fine and they will get to rest on their ass some more. Economies of scale dictate otherwise.

Its not just a firefight, the flow of the global market is the big thing here. I am also really tired of hearing about conspiracy theories about the GOP and defeatist attitudes from idiots with no allegiance to anything. The GOP have always been assholes, and thats fine. They do have the U.S. best interest at heart, but I think it can be misguided and there are greater opportunities for corruption and mismanagement of funds on a huge level. I probably sound like an idealist there, I know the Democrats can go off on tangents too. I think for the timing of the U.S., the mere possibility of the GOP messing it up right now would spell doom.

In all, I think that the polls have been showing the em gaining for a few reasons: I think alot of people think that Obama is just an idealist speaking fluff, when really its part of a campaign strategy that is necessary and works both for and against him. Underneath the words I think there is alot of character and substance and well-thought out stances on important issues, and the bite necessary to handle tough decisions. McCain, on the other hand, and again with all due respect, looks shell shocked. I'm sure Palin is a bright lady, but seriously, now is not the time for the nonsense she is spewing.

Okay thats my two, I'm just getting sick of hearing all this crap. My vote for Obama/Biden is there, I hope America will wake up and stop the wussification of the U.S.

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