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McCain's Speech: Obama Doesn't Have "The Scars" That I Have

Here's the first round of excerpts from McCain's speech tonight -- they feature as direct a reference as you could possibly want to McCain's service, and Obama's lack of it:

"I'm very proud to have introduced our next Vice President to the country. But I can't wait until I introduce her to Washington. And let me offer an advance warning to the old, big spending, do nothing, me first, country second Washington crowd: change is coming."

"The constant partisan rancor that stops us from solving these problems isn't a cause, it's a symptom. It's what happens when people go to Washington to work for themselves and not you. Again and again, I've worked with members of both parties to fix problems that need to be fixed. That's how I will govern as President. I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again. I have that record and the scars to prove it. Senator Obama does not."

"I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's. I loved it not just for the many comforts of life here. I loved it for its decency; for its faith in the wisdom, justice and goodness of its people. I loved it because it was not just a place, but an idea, a cause worth fighting for. I was never the same again. I wasn't my own man anymore. I was my country's."

"I loved it not just for the many comforts of life here" seems to hint at a contrast between McCain's suffering and a pampered "celeb" lifestyle enjoyed by Obama. Maybe we're a tad paranoid at this point and that isn't what it's about at all. But given the tenor of the previous paragraph, it sure sounds like it.


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I haven't said this in a very long time:

gag me with a spoon.

You know........what you just said was..........interesting...

Good stuff from ABC. Hopefully this free pass stuff has officially sunk to the bottom of the lagoon.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Conventions/story?id=5726571&page=1

lemme get this straight, he fell in love with his country only after he was a POW? interesting.

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How does he know what scars Obama has? This is the claim of a self-obsessed guy who thinks his victimhood qualifies him for sainthood.

Pish! Posh!

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Obama should take a page out of the Repug playbook and just start making sh*t up. He should say that HE was a p.o.w., and that his scars include when his captors removed his liver with a rusty spoon. He should say that he's come a long way since he was injured on the launchpad of an Apollo rocket, and that you can only see the seams if you look at his face really close up. He should say that the scar that runs the deepest is the one he got from that polar bear while protecting an igloo full of eskimo school children; no wound hurts as much as the memory of that one eskimo kid he *couldn't* save.

Alternatively, he could just call out John McCain for going FULL P.O.W. "McCain," he'd say, "you went full P.O.W. Nobody goes full P.O.W."

Thera: That is not the first time he has said that.

You know, like his bulls**t about "country first" and the fact that on Monday he was doing his impersonation of empathy for Gustav victims: That is when he (and all the other talking-point-mantra-spewing neos) said:

"There are moments when we have to take off our political hats and put on our patriotic ones... ."

Okay. Call me nit-picky. There are only moments for patriotism??? Doesn't that mean politics first then?

And then there is that phrase "have to".

Doesn't that sound like they are forced to place country before politics? I mean, isn't "need to" or "want to" maybe a little more empathic after all?

Certainly a political gaff in that language -- where "gaff" is defined as accidentally telling the truth.

Sort of like the headline I really wanted to see over the Palin pick: McCain's Will Broken By Demands From Rabid Right (because he really, really wanted to pick Lieberman but was told by his handlers that he couldn't).

But, as we know, those handlers already told us that McCain does not speak for his own campaign, Right?

Why did John McCain hate America before he became a POW?

John McCain used to NOT love America... He has NOT always been proud of his country.

This is NOT the first time he's said this.

at least it will be a short speech!

The McCain campaign fires back:

For five and a half years, John McCain couldn't even watch campaign speeches at the Republican National Convention, let alone deliver them. The insinuation that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, would exploit his experience as a former prisoner of war for political gain at the RNC is despicable and insults our brave men and women in uniform.

Thank you for make me fall of my chair.

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No, he is there to end "the constant partisan rancor", and he just said so... beeyatch!

Thank you for make me fall of my chair.

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Do I hear a whine?

Jesus Christ was a community organizer.

Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Who installed Pontius Pilate? (mcShame!)

nailed it!

Yes, it is an insult to the men and women in uniform, but Johnny will do anything to win. Perhaps when his campaign stops saying POW every time they are asked a tough question the exploitation would stop. This is Rove 101, attack others for appearing to do what you do implicitly.
Doesn't he seem much older now that Palin in on the ticket, like someones great grandfather who rambles on in the corner about "the war"? "Back in the day" sticks in my head, and its also where mccain is stuck.

mccain flipped before he flopped
palin, the next gen of george bush republicans

You were a POW?

Why didn't someone tell me! That changes EVERYTHING!

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Yeah, I guess he was just bombing gooks for the hell of it - not the country.

That's what I'm getting from this too. What a round-about nonsensical way for him to try to bring up being a POW.

He is a douche.

what was his status with the country BEFORE he fell in low with it as a POW?

and McCain is going back to that whole, you have to serve in the Military to matter again huh?


so much for reaching out to the middle, and yeah you Washington Politicians who controlled everything from 2001-2007, get ready to get kicked out!

On, man. I picture this already in my mind.

This is gonna suuuuck! No question about that.

The more I see of this sad thing called the RNC, the more I remember last Thursday. Thank god, I tape it so my children and my grand children can see that on this times we had a choice. On November 4th, we must take it and make it a reality.

BTW, I like presidents scar-free!!!

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Yup... faking the stigmata!!! not good...

What does his POW-ness(i.e. scars) have to do with getting the country "moving" again?

One quick add with these snippets and Bush's endorsement at the convention, this illusion of change that the Republicans are floating will be a distant memory. None of McCain's policies are a departure from the Bush administration. It's that simple.

I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's.

So he didn't love his country until he was 31?

Very interesting, indeed!

Yes, very interesting! What upsets me is that when Michelle Obama said something about being proud of our country for the very time in her adult life...they jumped all over it...Now McCain says HE DIDN'T LOVE his until AFTER being a POW. This is much worse and he's going to get away with it!!! I really think he is mental!

BTW, being a former POW does in no way qualify him to be president!!! It was unfortunate situation but he's not the first POW nor will he be the last.

Can I just say again, for like the 100th time, I love Rachel Maddow.

You know it! And beginning Monday, it's Keith/Rachel for two hours during prime time of progressive talk.

Thanks for make me remember that I love her too.

Rachel was fighting against the tide of feel-good instant analysis from the Palin speech last night. She was the ONLY one at MSNBC who had the common sense to say good inside the convention, NOT so good to the rest of America.

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Just so I get this straight - McCain ends a moving paragraph speaking about bi-partisanship and reaching across the aisle with...a partisan attack on Obama?

Irony, thy name is Johnny Mac.

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Of course Obama does not have the scars that McInsane has, Obama doesn't drive his car while his head is stuffed up his ass like McInsane does.

File under "No Duh . . . "

As a pasty old white dude who lacks the wisdom, intelligence and judgement God gave a sponge . . . McInsane does not have the scars that his campaign and other racist organization have inflicted upon Obama either.

OMFG! Republicants are stupid.

LOL, no suprise there.

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I take comfort in knowing that most people are not paradox proof, and irony impaired, like Repugs are.


I've never seen anyone contradict the entire first half of his campaign with the second half, before. This is a first - and those idiots will not even get it, I don't think. Nobody really cares what they say anyway -

it's the ideology. And the personality - not the policies or the issues or anything else at all.


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I take comfort in knowing that most people are not paradox proof, and irony impaired, like Repugs are.


I've never seen anyone contradict the entire first half of his campaign with the second half, before. This is a first - and those idiots will not even get it, I don't think. Nobody really cares what they say anyway -

it's the ideology. And the personality - not the policies or the issues or anything else at all.


He has the scars - and the symptoms.

Continually being beaten into unconsciousness, as McCain was as a POW, can lead to serious neurological problems in later life - inability to concentrate, memory loss, anger management issues, all of which are too visibly evident.

Time for McCain to gracefully retire, for his sake, the sake of his family - and that of the country's.

I'm wondering if any impact from this speech will be lost because the delivery will sound like he's reading from a phone book.

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I take comfort in knowing that most people are not paradox proof, and irony impaired, like Repugs are.


I've never seen anyone contradict the entire first half of his campaign with the second half, before. This is a first - and those idiots will not even get it, I don't think. Nobody really cares what they say anyway -

it's the ideology. And the personality - not the policies or the issues or anything else at all.

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I wasn't my own man anymore. "

Manchurian candidate.

This is going to be excruciating, isn't it?

I'm torn between hoping everyone watches this, and everyone flocking to something else...

so I am soooo angry I just donated again!

And Greg sorry this is off topic but I am posting this again because I still cannot believe that post on the CBS poll. Shameful. So here are the numbers y'all---

From the last CBS poll - the one that showed Obama +8 from August 29 - 31.

UNWEIGHTED WEIGHTED
Total Republicans 247 229
Total Democrats 310 308
Total Independents 318 337
Total Registered Voters 781 743

The point is, they went from a match-up of 30.8% (R) to 41.4% (D) to a match-up of 31.1% (R) to 34.9% (D). And then they wrote that this showed that Obama's 8-point lead evaporated from last weekend! Now, are you going to tell me that's not comparing apples and horse apples?

POWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW

When is Obama's Camp going to use this footage? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U5KZzgaB2k

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just watched that clip (never seen it before). yeah, when are they going to use it?

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Holy shit.

Jonze - truce, ok? You get the best links and sources I've seen on these boards.

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The sheer political value of that clip is good.

But the contrast between that feisty, healthy John McCain and the current version is stark.

Jonze, do you have a job? Good God, man! And, of course, I miss your avatar ...

Oh my gawd.


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I"m so so sorry about these multiple posts.


I check and check before I try it again to see if it's posted.

I should just quit trying -

So, will he be reading the speech of note cards?

"My friends, I fell in love with...uh..[looks down at card]...my country when I was a...uh...[looks down at card]...prisoner is someone else's."


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[smiles like dead rabbit caught in snare]...[looks down at cards]

I thought I caught someone on tv earlier saying that McCain wasn't going to remain behind the podium during his speech. Has anyone else heard that?

Oh god, I can only imagine.

True, I heard the same thing that they were basically lowering the stage or setting him out on the floor in some way, as if in a town hall. It'll be like defensive lineman trying to find Doug Flutie behind his protection.

"Where'd he go?!"

"Change is coming"

That, at least, I can agree with.

Change is coming,

And you ain't it, McSame.

or the brain damage

Andrea Mitchell is reporting that Palin intends to retreat to Alaska for "family time" while they bone her up, and she will not be available for any interviews.

Think about it.

No Today, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, C-SPAN, PBS, Charlie Rose, not even Gene Fucking Shalit...no tours common to and required by EVERY other candidate, but not Palin.

She is allowed to swoop in, lay an awful unAmerican stinkbomb, and fly away to Alaska without so much as a howdya do?

That thundering noise you hear is Alaska's population doubling under the weight of reporters...

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That thundering noise you hear is Alaska's population doubling under the weight of reporters...

Oh dear...thanks for the laugh.

More seriously, though, who ever heard of such a thing? She's taking time off to study up on issues, and McCain says she's ready to step in on day one?

And Hillary Clinton was "whining" last spring?

This is farce.

And if they win, our democracy may be fatally damaged.

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May be? For once, I think you underplayed the catastrophe!

LOL

If that happens, I seriously will not stay here - I don't care. My husband can catch up if he doesn't want to leave - are you kidding?

IF they did that, I would be forced to believe John Titer isn't a hoax and that we'd be headed for a civil war.

[if you don't know about John Titer, google; you'll love it.]

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I just google him.

I'm with you: if they win this election, he's gotta be the real deal.

Oh Canada....

This is craziness. I mean there just simply isn't any time left.

A perfect line of attack opens immediately: Palin is not ready, McCain knew it, and picked her anyway. Rather, he allowed America's Mullah's to pick her and let god do the vetting, but what are the chances THAT story comes out in public?

In a razor-close election, this kind of mistake is fatal.

tick tock tick tock

Oh, give the pit bull a break.

She needs lots of time to learn what McCain stands for so she can stand for it, too!

Seriously, the McCain team needs lots of time to train her--for the press or for the debate. They don't yet know what she doesn't know. It's going to take a lot of work. A heartbeat away from the presidency. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

I had no idea John McCain was a POW.

So his new line is "reform." Can anyone tell me what he means?

Is he talking about further campaign finance stuff? What reforms?

Has anyone heard any policy suggestions from him this year that qualify as "fighting for reform"?

I'm being serious. (Though good snark is welcome also.)

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He's never mentioned reform until now.

It's part of his self-image: the "reformer". The "reformer maverick". The "straight talkin', straight shootin' mavericky reformer". You get the drift...

The only reform he's associated with is the McCain-Feingold campaign contribution reform, loathed by Republicans, so he's not going to bring that up.

Nor is he going to bring up the immigration reform he is associated with.

No, he's just going to repeat the "reform" theme, over and over and over, and hope that the American public doesn't notice that he's full of it.

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mcSame - the 10% Reformer!

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"The 10% Reformer"

I mean... what else is left?

This is hilarious the man has been in Washington for 30 years, has voted 90% of the time with Bush and he is NOW talking about taking on Washington.

Fool, please. If he thinks that is going to work, he is sadly mistaken.

Yes, it seems that John McCain is running against himself--now that's a Maverick!

McCain fell in love with his country *after* he became a POW? What about when he joined the military, or before that?

McCain's speech in seven words:

"I was a POW, vote for me."

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P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W!

Watch an episode of "Locked Up." Everyone in there's got scars, too. What about that makes you a better president, McSame?

We should be grateful, though, because as long as McCain and Palin go on dodging the issues, talking about his f-ing time in the Hanoi Hilton, the better they play into Obama's refrain: they don't have a plan or a record to run on.

The GOP is getting really good at seizing issues they admonish others against "exploiting" while they use it at every opportunity to gain political points.

For McCain, it's POW (rapidly becoming even more ludicrous than "I'm the son of a millworker" or "Noun, verb, 9/11")....for Palin, it's "I'm a great mom, and did I mention that I chose to have a special needs baby?...Nevermind that it shouldn't really be called a 'choice,' since I don't believe that there is any choice, but what the hell, I can score points on it."

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old, big spending, do nothing, me first, country second Washington crowd

Let's see:

Old? Check.
Big spending? 7+ homes, Check.
Do nothing? Votes with Bush, supports status quo, Check.
Me first, country second: Provocative jingoistic attitudes toward Iran, Russia to win election; endangers nation with inexperienced VP choice to improve chances in race. Check.
Washington crowd: Twenty years in Senate. Check.

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Off-topic, but I just watched that pitiful Palin bio video. Rudy did them a favor by hogging more time.

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P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W!

Watch an episode of "Locked Up." Everyone in there's got scars, too. What about that makes you a better president, McSame?

We should be grateful, though, because as long as McCain and Palin go on dodging the issues, talking about his f-ing time in the Hanoi Hilton, the better they play into Obama's refrain: they don't have a plan or a record to run on.

Lol...Here we go again, McCain plays the POW card, but fails to offer any real economic agenda for our country. McCain has no shame.

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I'm reasonably sure Obama's camp could win by a landslide just by quoting bits from the new narrative the McCain camp is pushing:

"George W. Bush is a liberal! Vote for us and we'll show you what real conservatives can do to a country!"

Try winning an election with that.

I find it incredible that John McCain a white man of privilege should talk about having scars that Obama does not have. John, you idiot, Obama has the scars of being black, OK? Can you dig that? For Christ sakes!

According to this link - http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/no_questions_please_were.html
The plan is for Palin to do ZERO press interviews. The voters will get to know Sarah by what the campaign releases or from carefully scripted rally speeches.

Also considering her debate with Biden will cover a broad spectrum of issues, meaning only 2-3 security/FA questions.

The GOP isn't running a candidate, they are running an image.

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P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W!

Watch an episode of "Locked Up." Everyone in there's got scars, too. What about that makes you a better president, McSame?

We should be grateful, though, because as long as McCain and Palin go on dodging the issues, talking about his f-ing time in the Hanoi Hilton, the better they play into Obama's refrain: they don't have a plan or a record to run on.

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P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W!

Watch an episode of "Locked Up." Everyone in there's got scars, too. What about that makes you a better president, McSame?

We should be grateful, though, because as long as McCain and Palin go on dodging the issues, talking about his f-ing time in the Hanoi Hilton, the better they play into Obama's refrain: they don't have a plan or a record to run on.

To sum it up:

"Hockey Mom. POW. Have a great evening."

Why doesn't Mchouse simply move for a constitutional amendment that says every presidential candidate must have military experience? It seems as if he's not applying for POTUS but for the position of General.
Bind, torture, kill.

Hey McCain, my dad has scars from fighting in the Vietnam War and he thinks you're a complete asshole and a phony. And he'll be thinking that as he votes for Obama on Election Day.

George W. Bush didn't have the scars Kerry had in Vietnam in 2004. Why did McCain then support the former rather than the latter?

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P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W!

Watch an episode of "Locked Up." Everyone in there's got scars, too. What about that makes you a better president, McSame?

We should be grateful, though, because as long as McCain and Palin go on dodging the issues, talking about his f-ing time in the Hanoi Hilton, the better they play into Obama's refrain: they don't have a plan or a record to run on.

So is this election going to be like the scene in "Jaws" when they get drunk and the grizzled veteran compares scars with the college boy with "city hands?" Doesn't that mean McCain gets eaten by the shark at the end? Because he's certainly jumping it with this one.

Best laugh I've had all day.

Why don't they just whip them out and get it over with?

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Especially not the scar he got after he called his wife a cunt.

"I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's.

So he didn't love his country before he was a POW?

After that it's just psycho-babble.

Fuckin' thing sucks!

Bill O. the Clown. Applies to the comments system here as well.

Is McHomes applying for the job of POTUS or the position of General?

Just, for god's sake, let them keep the camera off of Piper Palin. That girl is *killing* us with spit-styling her little brother's hair.

I swear she probably won them more votes than her mother last night.

If she doesn't stop, we're going to have to do some oppo research on her.

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I actually want to hear about his emotional scars -- The one's people [who know him best] say he is emotionally unfit to go anywhere near the red button.

Where are his psyc reports?

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I'm more interested in McCain's Mini Mental State Exam which is given routinely to folks who are having a bit of trouble with their memory to see if it is just normal aging and stress or pathology in the brain like early Dementia from an unidentified source.

I sat through my Mother's exam with her and it clearly identified areas she was having problems in BEFORE she was diagnosed with anything but depression. Soon after this test, she was diagnosed with early dementia. It got much worse over the next 5 years before she died!

Can you imagine McCain with the possibility of this and Palin as his VP? We had better get out our voters and register a jillion more if we don't want this to be the time our country really falls apart.

I love Rachael too!

What a sorry ass bunch repugs are? I'm actually ashamed to be living in a nation that tolerates and even rewards such blatant bullshit. What does this have to do with anything?

Will his nonsensical bull shit fix healthcare or economy? Half of the country is filled with dumbfucks, and the other half of us are suffering for 8 years because of them. Holy fucking non-sense. I never thought I could despise anyone more than GWB, but this guy is desperate.

My only plea for this country- hope we're not subjected to another four years of this misery, pain, and helplessness.

If memory serves, JFK never mentioned his heroics in WWII. In those days, it was considered to be in poor taste to set oneself up as some kind of martyr. The media would have (no pun intended) crucified a politician for making a big deal out of his POW status.

We all know McCain suffered. At a certain point, he's going to cheapen his experience to the point where few will respect it. It's what he's going to do, come January 2009, that he and the media ought to be focusing on.


Even before the swiftboating began, the right wing attacked John Kerry because he talked about his experiences in Viet Nam.

The Double-Talk Express POW Card--don't leave home without it

The Double-Talk Express - I like that!

All aboard to Martyrsville!

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I actually want to hear about his emotional scars -- The one's people [who know him best] say he is emotionally unfit to go anywhere near the red button.

Where are his psyc reports?

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P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W! P.O.W!

Watch an episode of "Locked Up." Everyone in there's got scars, too. What about that makes you a better president, McSame?

We should be grateful, though, because as long as McCain and Palin go on dodging the issues, talking about his f-ing time in the Hanoi Hilton, the better they play into Obama's refrain: they don't have a plan or a record to run on.

You know what else Obama doesn't have that McCain has: The Crazies.

And why did McCain hate our country so much before he became a POW? Is it because he didn't become a celebrity until after he was a POW...

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Wow. Sorry about the multiple posts. This thing works much differently than it used to. Apologies.

After what the Republicans did to John Kerry in 2004, after their concerted effort to smear and defile his service to country, I take great offense to the way the RNC is pushing McCain's service here. I guess if you're so morally flawed as to smear a good man in the first place, the naked hypocrisy comes easy.

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Whoa there, I feel like I am watching an old Adam West 'Batman' episode

POW!
BIFF!
OOF!
SPLATT!

Yes, senator McCain...

Thank you for your service to our country

Now about those scars...

After hearing numerous accounts of your volatile and abusive temerpament...

I would like some psychological testing done.

Ironically sir, having been a POW may have rendered you unfit for office. Some of our service men and women come back with from war with far worse handicaps than this so overall you'v been blessed.

Obviously the word should read 'temperament'. As I have always said... I need an editor.

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I fell in love with America as a little boy reading about the Revolution.

Obama may not have the scars McCain does, but he also doesn't have the after-effects of repeated beatings and concussions, the hair-trigger temper, the fading and often faulty memory (and possible Alzheimer's), difficulty concentrating, not to mention the general physical deterioration of 72 years, the need for weekends off, the wrinkles,the roving eye (firmly planted on Palin's a$$ during her 1st appearacne as his VP pick), the itchy ring finger (or even the itchy trigger finger), ...or any number of other things that McCain suffers from that should make people think twice about voting for this aging and damaged man.

Say hello to my LEETLE friend ... the big scar across my face!

I bury those cock-a-roaches!

I like John McCain when he was still John McCain, he sold his soul to the extremist Christian right and his constant appeal for sympathy where for himself or for his running mate is embarrassing... I agree with Fred Thompson, "being a POW doesn't qualify you to be president"

I'm going to need a drink.

The scars? Wait...so does this make McCain Robert Shaw or Richard Dreyfuss in this scenario?

Being a POW taught him one thing: how not to crack up when you know the whole fucking thing is one flailing absurd fiasco.

By the way, after last night's vitriolic Parade of Filth, if someone in the Asshat Army doesn't call bullshit on this:

The constant partisan rancor that stops us from solving these problems isn't a cause, it's a symptom. It's what happens when people go to Washington to work for themselves and not you.

I am going to puke so hard they will hear it in neighboring states.

Here's a pathetic guy that sold out every principle he had in order to please his political operatives.
His original instincts on this were correct: trumpeting your own story with chest-thumping displays like this really engender disrespect, rather than respect.
People admire humble heroes, not boastful ones.
They cringe at people who are seen as tooting their own horn when it goes overboard like this is.

Senator Graham is on the telly right now telling us how much Johnny Mac supports the troops but he doesn't mention that Mac voted against the G.I Bill.
Mac demands evrything but doesn't want to give anything in return. That's one big scar that can never be removed, and won't be forgotten.

Vote for McPOW because he is a warrior and has three warrior sons.

People will vote for more WAR!

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"McCain's Speech: Obama Doesn't Have "The Scars" That I Have"

And McCain doesn't have "The Scars" that Obama has.

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Hey guys~

there's a new post. $10,000,000.00 says:Obama is the man.

The green background again? Are they crazy?

You gotta love it. These guys have completely run out ideas: "Don't vote for that guy, he has no scars. In case you were really considering it, don't! Because he can also do jumping jacks. We do not need that in the White House....my friends!!!" I can't wait for the next round, whatever it is!

This all was 40 years ago. SO what he is saying is he was against America before he was for America. He basically entered military service with what in mind? Was he just doing what looked good to his family and not what he wanted? Military service usually means you love your country. Did he lie when he took the oath of service? Once again oaths mean nothing to these people.

I, (John McCain), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

This all was 40 years ago. SO what he is saying is he was against America before he was for America. He basically entered military service with what in mind? Was he just doing what looked good to his family and not what he wanted? Military service usually means you love your country. Did he lie when he took the oath of service? Once again oaths mean nothing to these people.

I, (John McCain), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

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