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McCain: Pressure On Us To Have Debate Tomorrow Is Obama's Fault

John McCain is doing a round of network news interviews tonight (how that gels with the suspension of his campaign is a question for the ages). And in his interview with ABC News' Charlie Gibson, McCain places the blame for the public pressure on them to go through with their debate squarely on...Barack Obama.

From the transcript:

GIBSON: Do we have a debate tomorrow night?

MCCAIN: Well I'm hopeful, very hopeful that we can. I believe that it's very possible that we can get an agreement so that --- in time for me to fly to Mississippi. I understand that there is a lot of attention on this but I also wish Senator Obama had agreed to ten or more town hall meetings that I had asked him to attend with me. Wouldn't be quite that much urgency if he agreed to do that, instead he refused to do it.

Shorter McCain: My latest political stunt would be working better right now if Obama had gone for my earlier political stunt.

Seriously, what will McCain come up with as a justification for showing up tomorrow? No one really expects him not to show, right?


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Oh, now its BO fault for the pressure McCain is feeling? I guess McCain saying he wont show up without a deal has nothing to do with it.

Lets call a spade a spade: If there is no deal tomorrow, the crap has it the fan, and is all over JM face.

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Oh, I'm sure he'll find that they're close enough to a deal.  Especially now that's he's swooped in and straightened everything out.

Your comment just made me realize that probably the reason he's wanted the series of town hall meetings all along is that there wouldn't be the intensity of focus that there is for the "debates," so his flubs and fuckups wouldn't be so glaring. Also, having lots of them means people would be tuning out after the first one. I bet he's feeling the heat of having to talk for that long without cover.

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Again with the town hall meetings? That's the lamest excuse ever.

Someone needs to ask him in one of those interviews about when he did this in 1999. He cancelled his California debate with Cmmdr CooCoo Bananas cause his numbers in California had tanked.

It didn't work as an excuse for the negative ads, what makes them think this will work now. Okay, now either his advisors are idiots or McCain is ignoring them and just flying off the batshit crazy handle.

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or McCain is ignoring them and just flying off the batshit crazy handle.

I thought we had pretty well established that this was it. Cause I think so.


Man, fuck you and your funky ass townhalls.

The dog ate my townhall meetings!

Holy crap this is some of the lamest shit I've ever heard. Seriously.

LAME.

What? No POW?

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McCain: well, I spent five years not being able to debate anyone. Tomorrow's not critical: I've gone without debating before....

This might be the most juvenile exercise I've ever seen by a big time politician.

Seconded.

He's a fucking seventh grader: "I MIGHT come to your party...if I feel like it...if you grovel enough...just so long as it's all about ME!"

Delusions of grandeur: calling off convention, wanting to make acceptance in disaster zone, Palin pick, "suspension", etc. Political theatre but I'm thinkin' its not gonna win a Tony...

Really bad dinner theater rarely wins a Tony.

Elitist!

I'm not an elitist. I'm an intelligentsia, damn it. And I'm willing to see the whole McCain campaign as an extension of Artaud's Theatre of Cruelty. In which, I would say that it is one more subtle and textured performances I have encountered in years.

Ah, you maka me laugh...

"DON'T YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM!"

I'M THE JUGGERNAUT... SORRY, JOHN McCAIN, BITCH!

You are so right. Between McCain and Palin I am begining to believe that I am back in juior high. This is tripping me out.

And I get Donkey Kong or I'm taking my Mario Kart and going home!

I'm sure you do wish that, Senator. I'm sure you also wish you were up 10 points in the polls.

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Right or wrong for either candidate, McCain in 08 is becoming Kerry in 04. That is: Weak.

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This is just stupid and petty. It really is. And in its pettiness and stupidity, it's annoying.

It perfect definition of "juvenile."

McCain better start pushing. Congressional Republicans, and even Senator Shelby, are rejecting the entire Paulson request, in all it's current permutations.

Capt Suspender McCain, better pull up his suspenders, and get his own Republican colleagues on board now, or he will get exposed to the nation, once again, as the dithering Drama Queen that he has always been.

"Today all Americans are Georgians" John Drama Queen McCain

This could turn out to be especially tricky for him in light of the current NY Times headline: "Bailout Plan Stalls After Day of Talks."

McCain could find himself kind of boxed in here. On the one hand, he engineered this White House photo-op at which a done deal was more or less declared. This clears the way for him to return to campaigning and debating with some semblance of honor.

On the other hand, if it turns out that his magisterial return to Washington didn't even convince his own fellow Republicans to sign on to this deal, then where does this leave him? Does he honor his pledge to suspend his campaign and shun the debate? Does he play some kind of pretend-suspend game, enduring the constant gibes of snarky liberal bloggers (and the likes of David Letterman)? Does he shrug it off and go back to full campaigning, despite the bailout unraveling?

There's probably some adroit way to play this, but I just don't see McCain or his current team being capable of pulling it off.

"No Drama" Obama, meanwhile, looks reassuringly calm and steady by comparison. Or so it seems to be me, anyway.

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He's already playing 'pretend suspend.' Some of his offices never got the word that he was suspending his campaign.

And this incessant whining about town halls is becoming pretty Captain Queeg-ish, if you know what I mean.

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There's probably some adroit way to play this, but I just don't see McCain or his current team being capable of pulling it off.

The opposite of adroit (right-handed) is sinister (left-handed).  That much more aptly fits McSame and StupidSchmidt.  Sinister tyeh know about.

And, yeah, McSame ducking out seems a real possibility.  I guess it all depends on who gets to him on his cellphone last.

nah . . . using the McCain campaign as an example of sinister is an affront to lefties and truly devious schemers.

The opposite of adroit is clumsy.

And clumsy is what happens when you take a man who has never had to preside over a seriously contested election and expect him to deal with one. If we thought Hillary Clinton had entitlement issues . . .

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The opposite of adroit is clumsy.

In terms of current usage, you're right, of course.  I'm just playing games with the roots of the words.  Clumsy has always been associated with left-handed.  And that's where sinister comes from.

I think you'd enjoy a little digging into the words' etymologies.

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As long as we are turning over word-rocks to see what is underneath, please permit me to ask you to consider for your amusement that the opposite of adroit (right) is gauche (french/latin base). Somehow, this very apt description of the McCain/Palin ticket makes me smile.

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And Greg?

I don't McCain is going to show up for the debates. Because I don't think there's going to be an agreement reached tomorrow.

Frankly, I'm hoping McCain doesn't show up. Obama will have two hours to chat with the audience and Jim Lehrer, while McCain will be where, exactly? Working late in Washington? Right.

If you believe that, there's this bridge in Alaska where you can see Russia, and I'd love to sell it to you.

P.S. Comments are getting wiggy again.

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co-sign CT from start to finish, including wiggy comments.

Very wiggy indeed.

FACT:

John S. McCain is a TOTAL motherf *cking c *cksucking piss drinking ASSHOLE!

Whew. Now I feel better.

I feel better just by reading it. My own thoughts on screen. Thank you.

You realise that you have just described many a wingnut's fav-o-rite wet dream.

Yes, I was going to call him a weaselly pigfucker, but I think you put it more succinctly and articulately than I could.

Obama's town hall meeting refusal is the reason the economy is in the crapper.

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Shorter McCain...

Hey!  Quit picking on his height!  He's already having to deal with his senility!

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You are very witty and you have great hair!

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There's a lot more grey in it now!

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I love my grey hair - it's longer than yours.

;)

"I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience."

Should Grampa Munster actually have the guts to debate or weasel out it like he did against George W. Bush in California during the 2000 primaries, how many times and ways will he repeat the stupid Reagan mantra?

Your shitty candidacy is reality's fault.

John McCain: Flailer in Chief.

My Friends,

I feel that I am entitled to call a campaign and debate suspension, because for five and half years I was deprived of the right to suspend stuff.

I remain,

John Drama Queen McCain,

and never forget that All Americans are still Georgians. What is that Sarah? You want me to add your YUP! YUP!

Sarah also asks me to remind all you parents out there to keep on reminding your teenage boys to keep their Johnsons in their Levis.

It's ALWAYS me me me me with McCain. The guy is a TOTAL fraud.

At least 60 minutes of the Debate should be reserved for discussion of the Keating Five.

Here we go again wit these old ancient 1917 lame ass town hall meetings,Barack is not stupid,mcbush wanna have these town hall meetings in front of his old white racist supporters and his old white racist senile veterans like 105 yrs old Col.Bud Day from the swift boats,that do not like Barack bkuz he's black,mccukoo shove your town hall meeting up your ass

Will the networks cover the debate if McCain isn't there? I mean will they give Obama 2 hours of coverage?

I think this is just cover for a bad debate performance - the spin doctors and surrogates can say "Well McCain was shite, but it's because he was too focused on the economic crisis..."

Did Obama agree to the Stephanopoulis town hall debate that McCain had already agreed to?

Who knew so much in McCain's life depended on the junior Senator from Illinois? It's a wonder McCain ever gets out of bed....

What a fucking crybaby!

Wait you poop and piss in the pool and it's my fault?

And you know who the last candidate to throw a hissy fit and refuse to show up to a presidential debate was?

Jimmy Carter.

That worked out real well for him rite?

John McCain is paying a make up specialist, from American Idol, enough to pay five monthly mortgages, for each time she does his make up. She has been hired to hide his age.

She does a fantastic job. In his recent public appearances, John McCain has not looked a day over 95 years old.

He is the biggest burned out Supernova in the Universe.

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Hate to go OT, but by any chance did you see our First Lady in the vid where she says Sarah Palin isn't qualified? I don't know what they've done to her or what she's done to herself, but her face looks like it's made out of silicone and you look in her eyes and I swear to god I have never seen a meaner bitch.

Tena,

Which one, Sarah or Laura, are you saying looked mean?

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Laura Bush. This was her interview in which she was asked if Sarah had foreign relations experience and Laura said "of course not."

Tena,

Here is a Youtube clip of the Laura Bush comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7zjOsps3Ds

The quality is not very good, but it does look like Laura had some shoddy work done beneath her eyes.

Either that or she has been applying a lot of Preparation H. to them. She probably orders it in Fifty Gallon drums, considering the giant pain in the ass that she is married to.

If I could just be sworn in as president then we wouldn't need to have any debates

Bush lied for 8 years and f***ed up pretty bad but he was elected. Twice. Why isn't it working for me?

I really don't see how McCain can not show up tomorrow.

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But he's done it before, Hyperrevue. He did it in 99-00 in California.

Yeah, I know. And he ended up losing that primary battle.

I guess I'm going at it from a rational point of view. What I meant to say is I don't see how he doesn't show up tomorrow and survives.

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O I agree with that; but I don't how see any way for him to survive whether he shows up or not.

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I don't think rational thinking has anything to do with it.

The NY Times suggested that he did next to no debate preparation. WSJ said he had Michael Steele lined up to be the pretend Obama, but NYT wrote that they barely got into the debate prep session when Walnuts suddenly decided to shock the world by "suspending the campaign."

The impression I'm left with is that McCain felt no need to prepare for debate. Why that might be, is anybody's guess, but it certainly suggests to me that he was never really planning on attending.

It makes a lot of sense politically. At this point the only weapon the right wing has is to deny Biden and Obama their respective moments in the sun. Dodging the debate will cost them greviously in the political arena, but they were never really expecting to win, or we wouldn't have got Palin thrust down our throats. What they gain from dodging the debate is the erosion of any good will the Dems might receive as a result of solid debate performances. This will conceivably make it more difficult for Obama to govern, as he will take office still an unknown in the minds of many voters, voters he might otherwise have reached in the debates.

There's no way Democratic infomercials from the debate locales will draw 100 million viewers. I think this is what conservatives live in fear of. Biden alone is in a position to set back conservatism 10 years at least. I honestly can't see how they can go through with it. There's literally no upside for Republicans to debate.

They're just trying to figure out a way for McCain to show up and make Obama look bad. As with just about everything else they will screw this up, too.

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I don't either.  Still, he's pulled a whole lotta shit where I've thought, "I really don't see how he can..."

McCain keeps falling back to that townhall excuse, I really think he is using it as a excuse for himself in his mind to use all these low ball attacks.

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The funny thing about this is that McInsane just blows at these POWnhall meetings, and that's been at ones where it's a carefully selected audience of his supporters. Can't imagine how horrendous he'd be at one where he would actually get tough questions.

McInsane was lucky Obama didn't agree to more.

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Posit for a moment that you are a senior McCain campaign strategist, as hard as that might be. Turn away from the ill-gotten sacks of money—'earned, if that's a reasonable term, as a lobbyist—and try to get your head around 'the problem:'

If the candidate fails to show, the best spin you can hope to have stick is that a Senator unable to attend more than a single vote all year, none since April, and relatively few the year before—who is not seated at the table as a member of ether committee studying the matter or involved directly in cross-party, cross-house negotiations—is the hero who laid down arms for the good of the nation, sacrificing his personal ambitions to become President, returned to Washington to rally the members of both parties and both houses, thus single handedly saving the nation! Not so much, Superman. Actually, not close at all.

Or, he shows up at the scheduled debate—tired, but combative—and likely experiences a meltdown in the process, actually seriously underperforming even the now ridiculously low expectations which exist surrounding him, flailing wildly at the scary black man and all around him, as his plane literally falls from the sky. Bad memories.

If you're one of those advisors, this is a lose/lose proposition you candidate has created, painting himself into a corner from which he is not likely to emerge unscathed. Laughable to some degree, but pitiful to a greater one.

If your head has not already exploded as you try to strategize with the others around you, it soon will. While all of the members of his team deserve everything they get as this disaster unfolds, I wouldn't want to be one of those guys…

How far the Grand Old Party has fallen from its glory days.

this is a lose/lose proposition you candidate has created, painting himself into a corner from which he is not likely to emerge unscathed. Laughable to some degree, but pitiful to a greater one.

I dunno, I'm laughing pretty hard right now. Pity? Meh. Wait a second, I think the Bard had something to say about this...

For 'tis the sport to have the enginer Hoist with his own petar; and 't shall go hard But I will delve one yard below their mines And blow them at the moon: O, 'tis most sweet, When in one line two crafts directly meet.

Southern CA is really playing up the McCain Cancer ad. I have seen it on MSNBC four times in the last hour.

If JM doesnt show up, it will be the biggest political blunder in American political history.

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Frankly, he already committed the greatest political blunder of all time and her name is Sarah Palin. Skipping a debate after that debacle is small time.

I'm sick and tired of ALL FUCKING REPUBLICANS.
I just heard Buchanan urging a dramatic show3-up by McCain and grandstand any deal as bad for America.
What a disingenuous asswipe.

They are, with VERY FEW exceptions, the most dishonest, craven bunch of assholes in the history of the country.

Country First my ass.

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Countrywide First!

$50 McCain's plane "gets stuck" in DC because of the Nor'easter

Kos

Not that Kos.

He will look like a WEAK FLAKE Flip Flopper if he shows up tommorow night. HOWEVER, it will be even worse if he doesn't show up. O will have 2 hours of primetime coverage ALL TO HIMSELF.

Not one to complain but posting is totally whacked tonight.

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Yes it is. Totally wack. It has a whole new trick.

I am not sure this quote is accurate. I had just listened to this bit on video and it sounded like he 'still' wants Obama to agree to his 10 town halls. When he got asked the question he went right into talking points. He was clearly uncomfortable... he looked pretty stupid actually.

He doesn't look too good. He didn't seem to excited about the idea of having the debate.

There is one thing that's beginning to make me nervous. McCain keeps throwing "hail Mary" passes (attacking Obama's patriotism, lying without shame, selecting Palin, grandstanding as leading on the Wall Street bailout while having been one of the Keating 5, debate ducking) without running out of downs.

Sooner or later unless McCain is made to turn over the ball, one of those long down field passes is going to make it in to the end zone. It's like McCain gets an endless supply of throws without any penalty for failing to connect.

Perhaps, McCain only appears to be getting an endless set of downs because of the great amount of good will he's banked over the years, and therefore it's taking a long time to deplete. If that's so, we've got less than 40 days in which for him to run dry.

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I really don't get where you people come up with this shit - where is McLame getting free downs these days?

Come on - the media has been very good about all this lately. Quit thinking they are back in '04 - they seem to be handling this like it really is 2008. Every rightwing pundit has given McLame shit; Katie Couric actually gave a hard-hitting interview yesterday - certainly for Katie Couric it was brutal.

These old comments about the media loving on McLame are way out of date.

Agreed. One of the reasons that Obama has made the gains he has is that the media has to some degree called McCain's campaign on his shit.

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One of the media's biggest problems is that the punditry all make too much money. They don't connect with average people. In this case, the very size of their own stock portfolios makes them not the least amused by McCain's shenanigans.

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I agree - that's one major problem. And there are others.

But these blanket comments on the media are not in step with what is happening this time. This is not a constant battle against the media for Obama like it was for Kerry. And for Gore.

Not at all.

Tena,

Think of it this way. How many reckless hail Mary attempts would Obama have been able to get away with? My guess is, zero. McCain is still out there on the field launching them up.

It feels a bit too much like we're waiting for the game clock to expire before some crazy McCain scramble and pass wins the game. Forgive me if I given the impression that I'm in a panic, or even worried. I am not. I am, however, very aware of the punchers chance - sorry, for the mixed metaphors - McCain is giving himself.

I think he has thrown his arm out and can't reach the end zone anymore. His cup is chafing him and he wants a rest.

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Wait, so McCain "suspending" his campaign is like Favre's "retirement"? He'll come back to campaign in another country? Georgia, maybe?

So.

1. Suspend campaign explaining that you need to focus all your energies on getting the financial crisis solved and that you cannot e.g. spare even four hours to go to a debate that partly determines the fate of the nation and that 75% of people want you to go to.

2. Fail to read the Paulson report (all 3 pages).

3. Spend nearly two days holding a rally, giving an intensely political speech at a completely unrelated venue and giving interviews to network news.

4. When finally getting to D.C., break the bipartisan compromise deal that had already been forged while you were still holding a rally and giving TV interviews, thereby prolonging the crisis for absolutely no good reason.

5. ???

6. Crisis solved!!!

John McCain '08!

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1.  Collect underpants (Depends™).
2.  ???
3.  Profit!

It is not that Obama did not agree to the townhall meetings, it is all about Obama not having done what McCain decided should be done. McCain did not consult with Obama. He announced the Townhall meetings, and demanded that Obama attend.

That is how McCain is. You saw him do it again with the suspension, and debate cancellation effort. He decided and announced what he was going to do, and ordered Obama to do what McCain had decided.

That is why McCain has a long history of violent temper tantrums, against almost all his Senate colleagues. He declares what he has decided, and if they do not follow his dictate, then he goes into a complete meltdown. He was like that a child, so he is not going to change at his advance age.

I can see him announcing what Putin should do, and when Putin does not follow McCain's dictate, they McCain going completely bonkers, and getting us into a nuclear confrontation.

He is too dangerous to put in charge off the Armageddon trigger.

Good points.

Actually, I think Atrios put it best when he described McShame as a "raging narcissistic drama queen."

Country first my ass. Not only has he proven himself to be dangerously unqualified to be president, he's also shown himself to be dangerously unqualified to run for dog catcher.

Maybe if McCain had been protected from witchcraft none of this would be happening.

Someone said that Obama had offered his own schedule for those damn townhall debates but that McDuck shot them down.

Enough already. Just kill the damn thing.

Roger Simon was on the Tweety-less second edition of Hardball completely swinging on the tire for McCain being a Great Leader today. It was the first of two segments with Schuster and Pat. Just embarassing.

John

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Agree. He was pathetic. Americans are paying attention for once. First you threaten all their assets and then you try to spin the crisis for a few political points. Anyone think that's funny? Anyone like having their retirement savings put at risk for a Rovian con game?

Oh, McCain will show up.
He'll arrive breathless, but hopeful, after finishing saving the country.

Then, after the debate, he'll rush back to DC to complete the duties of an American hero.

the media is going to eat it all up, too.

The Obama campaign is totally aware of mcsenile's utter lunacy and desperation. There will be massive numbers of donations in the next 48-72 hours for Obama. And Obama has incredible new material for ads for weeks to come.

With all the MSM reporting, the overflowing email and phone lines in Congress, and just everyone talking and blogging about this, mcsenile is going down very, very fast...I hope.

They're trying to wear down Obama, but it is probably having the reverse effect - His adrenalin is way up - as is the case with all of us. He won't crack.

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I thought he looked great in his press conference - calm, cool and sensible. Americans may like shock and awe abroad but they don't like it in their 401K at home.

I just got back home from the Mayflower Hotel (yes, the infamous Spitzer one, right across from ABC news) where they did the press conferences and interviews. When McCain came out there was a small crowd with a substantial portion booing... People (myself included) stood around in the cold rainy weather for well over an hour hoping to get a glimpse of Obama when he came out. First, let me just say it was the end of a really, really rough day at the office and I was NOT in a good mood. The positive spirit and cheerfulness of such an amazingly diverse crowd really made my day. We were worried we had missed him when a decoy motorcade drove by but a little while later the Secret Service guys got really active and assertive and then Obama came out a side entrance and stood waving at us and everybody left with a huge smile and positive vibe! It really kicked ass. I can't wait until he kicks the repubs ass this november!

The contrast with McCain could not possibly have been greater.

I totally agree with above (acamus): mccain is flying off the "batshit crazy handle".

Too bad there isn't a Gallup poll asking whether or not mccain is crazy.

Our fundraiser for Obama tomorrow night is way over-subscribed.

Oh course McCain will be at the debates. For the first time in this campaign, the spotlight is not on Obama, not on Palin, not on the Clintons, but squarely on McCain. It is what he has yearned for throughout the election.

If McCain was planning on not attending the debate, he would say so now to soften the blow. But in being coy and leaving the question unanswered, the media will follow McCain's every move tomorrow as if he were driving a white Bronco. All eyes will be on McCain, and you can bet that some in the media are ready to write how the maverick lives. Brace yourselves. It's going to be thick tomorrow.

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But "maverick" doesn't work with this "crisis". Who wants a maverick gambling their retirement savings?

this is just an aside, but when my five year old son kicks the dog, i don't tell him he's a "maverick" and applaud him and get all weepy about how "out of the box" he just acted. i also don't get teary-eyed over my son's "maverickyness" when he throws a tantrum and slams his bedroom door. because doing those things doesn't make him a "maverick" -- it makes him a little boy who isn't socially well-adjusted or in control of his emotions yet.

ironically, both my son and john mccain can probably blame their ill-adjustments on the same thing: their age.

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I'm so unconvinced.

I think you're putting the wrong emphasis on this- the press is not playing along with McLame. It's a myth that all PR is good PR - the hell. If that was true, Gary Hart would be president right now.

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Not right now - Hart would have been president.

D'oh.

I think there'll be a subtext, however, of the overall McMeshugah meltdown in the last two weeks, and the only meaningful similarity to the slow-speed bronco chase will be a pervasive sense of morbid curiosity. I'm sure there are people around McCorpse who will consider the night a success if he gets through the debate without blowing his stack and screaming racial epithets ("They're all alike; all of them. Totally disrespectful. And you hard working, White Americans here in Oxford Mississippi know exactly what I'm talking about!!).

Side question: Does TPM allow wagering in its comments section? Cuz I got ten bucks says McCracked won't go more than ten minutes tomorrow night without hauling out the Hanoi Hilton material.

A Maverick is a stupid calf that keeps going astray, and having to be rescued.

That is who McCain is!

I hope somebody out there is keeping track of McCain's hourly schedule so that if he doesn't show we can ask how he found so much time in the midst of singlehandedly saving the country from economic meltdown to go on the evening news shows, make speeches, meet donors, etc., but somehow couldn't manage to show up for the presidential debate.

For the love of Jeebus, someone needs to call McCain on this BS now! He's been saying this for ages, and it doesn't make any sense -- "The other guy didn't do what I wanted so things that I do bad now are his fault. I cannot control my own behavior. I am two years old. Vote for me!"

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How DARE Obama choose to show up for the debates that they agreed to. Shouldn't he just submit himself to whatever McCain's Stunt-of-the-Day is? This Obama guy seems too stable. We definitely want McCain's constant roller coaster drama and high stakes gambling. Four years of that would be so pleasant.

Cut Sen McDesperate some slack. For 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton there wasn't a single Town Hall Meeting.(or evidently, any sunscreen) Fortunately, his "beautiful mind" was in overdrive and he come out of it with the ideas that brought us the Blackberry.

If only Obama had agreed to do the townhall meetings, I wouldn't have been forced to:

(a) lie about him;
(b) pick an incompetent running mate;
(c) lie to the American people;
(d) provide full employment for all the graduates of the Rove School of Campaign Management;
(e) lie to myself about being an honorable man.

I could go on.....

McCain will be at the debate. I gurantee it. There is no way he wouldn't go. He is a republican he can certainly spin the reasoning for him going but he knows he HAS to go.

I get the plan now, McCain will be at Washington "working" all day tommorow until 5 oclock, in which he will hop on that plane and head straight for the debate. Then he will announce how right after the debate he will fly off back to Washington. It could actually turn out well for him.

I agree with you. McCain has all the attention turned on him now. This is exactly what he wants and when the agreement on the bailout is made he will try to take credit for brokering the deal.

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Quick, someone send the McCain campaign this link:

http://www.thelaceshop.com/fanhan.html

Little Johnny needs something to whipe the tears away!

He'll fly into Ol Miss at the last minute .. piloting his campaign plane himself ... to declare victory for ... something!

HES A FUCKING SNAKE!

i hope he doesn't shwo up to the debate.

BREAKING NEWS (I am not kidding)

Feds seize Wash Mutual - The largest US bank failure: Here is the link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080926/ts_nm/us_financialnews_25

Will the stock markets even open tomorrow - And if so, how far will they fall - And we all know who is to blame - mccain.

It's a Catch 22... the deal was 98% done until mccain showed up and gummed up the works... now he won't leave until it's done? Geesh. Mccain has sure turned into a piece of work. He was getting hammered by his lack of knowledge on economics so he goes to DC (for the first time since what April?) and makes like he 1) knows what they're doing and 2) has anything substative to add and 3) isn't campaigning (offices open, surrogates dissing Obama, fund raising, interviews and getting his name associated with what everyone else in Congress has been working on for weeks. What integrity he had is long gone. Anyone who buys this ploy is just not paying any attention.

I don't think too many people, if any, are buying this behavior (Is it schizo or manic or senile or what - but it's insane) As reported on TPM, 3/4 of those surveyed felt debate should go on. McCain is going to be very tired and even more confused, muddled - if he does show up. And all of this crap just 1)energizes Obama, and 2) makes Obama look professional and presidential under pressure. The MSM seems to some extent turning on McCain. For example, Jeffrey Toobin is on to McCain's antics:

http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/mccain_shoots_from_the_hip_kee.php

I would think the producers and top execs at CNN, etc must be having fits about this - They've spent all this money, (such as CNN on ads) and who knows if he's going to show up tomorrow night and what policy will they take if he does not show up.

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Just listening to CNN and Ed Rollins said, there will be a debate or Obama will talk with JIm Leher and the audience in Miss. for 90 minutes in front of 35 million viewers. I hope McCain DOES NOT show up and Obama gets all that time to have a televised town hall.

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Dems need to push away from the table, tell the Republikans that when they've finally figured out what they want, let Dem committee members know so that negotiations can begin once again, but they are not interested in wasting their time once again on posturing, push their chairs under the table and LEAVE. Make the Repuglies come to them this time. The Dems MUST make the Repuglies own this problem or bow out.

If mccain does show up, the planned subject for the debate is foreign policy (but Jim Lehrer indicated he could possibly ask economic policy questions as well). So mccain, who is just very confused and agitated (early signs of dementia) will be clueless on what's been going on in the foreign policy arena the last few days, especially North Korea's suspension of weapons inspections and reprocessing of weapons grade plutonium, or Pakistani and US troops exchanging fire on the border with Afghanistan or any number of events going on - He won't know.

I also wonder, with the Wash Mutual failure what is going to happen when the markets open - both here and abroad. Will the NY markets open?

Again with the friggin' town halls. he just can't stand the fact that he's not calling the shots. instead of preening in front of tame audiences where he can recite his talking points, he's going to get grilled in front of the whole world with someone younger and smarter just waiting to pounce. Well, TOO bad.

Pass the popcorn.

"...John S. McCain is a TOTAL motherf *cking c *cksucking piss drinking ASSHOLE!......"

LOL I thought you were going to do an homage to "Rome" and call him a piss-drinking son of a circus whore, which is pretty much the same, I guess. Anyway, he's toast.

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Extra burnt.

Senator Obama, and congressional leaders should loudly announce they are walking away from the bail out until the repugs
and the white house present their bail out plan.

It is not for the democrats to solve this problem.
Why should Dodd, Frank et al trust Paulson and Bush's dire warnings when
McCain and the Repugs obviously don't

At press confrerence tomorrow they should was their hands of this repug squabble. Blame McCain and go to the debate like adults

Put the burning tire around McCain and BONERS necks

Now that the deal is "dead", will the R's be stepping up the pressure on the debate commission to cancel the debate? McCain is up against it now, but I never underestimate people's ability to be spun by the R's...

i just listened to npr and the question of the day was this: why did mccain make such a big deal of this deal by dramatically "suspendind" his campaign but remained totally mute during the negotiations? did you hear me? mccain was mute as in had no input, as in totally quiet and not offering an opinion one way or the other?

this is a joke and we as americans are super stupid if we allow obama to lose to this idiot....i never thought i would see the day when anyone makes bush look acceptable...mccain has been doing just that...

McCain bails on the debate, suspends his campaign, but then just yesterday 9/25 the following ad is playing in Cincinnati claiming "that Obama is mum on the financial crises."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj4abfnmwwg&feature=related

Doesn't sound like a suspension to me...

re: McCain Ad During McCain Campaign Suspension

Notice how the "Ripoff CEO" in the ad is black...? Is McCain planting subliminal messages in addition to just flat out lying his ass off???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj4abfnmwwg&feature=related

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So John McCain is now trying to say that Barack Obama is responsible for John McCain not being able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

We have someone in the Whitehouse today that has great difficulty walking and chewing gum at the same time so why would we ever want to go that route again?

Why does everyone forget that Obama had COUNTERED the offer of 10 town hall meetings with 5 town hall meetings? As usual, McStain and the Repukes believe in my way or the highway. They have no concept of negotiation. PLUS, the 10 town hall meetings was to be completed before the conventions, so there would still have been Presidential Debates.

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At least McCain is willing to do his day job. My guess is that the Congressional conservative Republicans would have reacted as they did even if McCain never existed. McCain obviously has fuller connections with them than Obama does but no Democrat appears to have had an ear to the ground on this one although if you ask me the prospect was all over the airways and shouting from the email pressure on Congress. Obama appears not to have had a clue that the Paulson approach might be going to fall apart.

Obama needs to realize that bipartisanship is not simply doing things his way. McCain made a reasonable proposal -- let's solve the country's crisis first and then go back full force to campaigning. Obama appears to have rejected this primarily because McCain suggested it.

Having both campaigns set their positions in stone by elucidating them at a debate is arguably not the best method of solving the problem.

Further, while Obama stated that reponsibility would shift in 40 days -- imagine what would have been said if Palin had claimed that and Obama as a constitutional scholar should have flunked any student who made such a claim -- so maybe he could carry a little responsibility now.

He also makes the claim that a President needs to know how to do several things at once -- sounds good to suckers. The way you change minds in a legislature is to talk to legislators. I'd like to see Obama work the phones while debating.

Perhaps if the old man could somehow master the complexities of email and cell phone technology, he could be a part of what is happening in Washington while campaigning, just the way Barack is doing.

So I guess by your thinking then Dodd, Frank, Paulson, President Bush and the Republicans in the Senate all didn't have "an ear to the ground on this one" since they all thought there was a consensus developing and that a deal was in the works??

Make no mistake, if this fails it's because McCain made it fail.

He determined that his campaign needed another wild gambit and he went all in for this hare-brained scheme. There was a good faith bipartisan effort to get a deal done. The only ones who didn't at least entertain the idea of backing it were McCain and the most conservative wing of his party who are the architects of the problem in the first place! Of course the House Republicans wouldn't back it, they created the issue! They don't think there IS a problem. Free market, remember that?

You want to see Senator McCain really in a panic and scrambling? Take him up on the town hall meetings!

Just be sure to have an electronic jammer in place so as to prevent any audio signals getting through. I hope they have one tonight.

Has anyone been informed about the BILL on hold until Obama gets elected?

SEE IF AMERICA'S PURSE CAN HANDLE THIS:


H.RES.194
Title: Apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of
African-Americans.
Sponsor: Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] (introduced 2/27/2007) Cosponsors
(120)
Latest Major Action: 7/29/2008 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On
motion to suspend the rules and agree to the resolution, as amended
Agreed to by voice vote.
————————————————– ——————————
SUMMARY AS OF:
2/27/2007–Introduced.


Acknowledges the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and
inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow. Apologizes to African-Americans
on
behalf of the U.S. people for the wrongs committed against them and
their ancestors. Commits to rectifying the lingering consequences of
slavery and Jim Crow and to stopping future human rights violations.

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