Perhaps -- perhaps -- and i don't claim to know how Obama can turn the press momentum right now, but perhaps if they refuse to talk about anything but this until McCain's campaign is forced to concede that they pushed this flamboyantly false story i.e outright lied, that will lead to an unravelling in the Palin phenomenon that they can tie around McCain's neck.

But I doubt it.

Regardless of its inaccuracy, this really does just sound like a made-up excuse. It's pretty pitiful really.

And why won't McLame let Sarah tell us herself? Why does he have to talk for her if she's ready on day 1 to take over the whole damn country?

New bame for McCain -- Rocket pants!! For all the smoke coming out of his derriere.

Best,

Tip

I'm back up to my usual and I say bullshit on the gloom. Enough.

I ran in to Mark Begich today outside the post office in Fairbanks. I asked him about Palin's nomination and association with Ted Stevens. He said that he believed the nomination was a good thing for Alaska, bringing some positive attention to the state (debatable), but he also said that Sarah was going to need to take a stand one way or the other regarding Stevens and his earmarks. He said that she can't keep her reformer title and still support Stevens and his pork-heavy diet.

McCain would think this is good spin. After all he's the only member of the Keating Five who managed to get a reputation as a reformer.

You can't be anti-pork when you keep the pork.

If McLame is so anti pork, does that mean he's a Muslim at heart?

Greed and lie live together. They must to cover up or rationalize poor behavior and judgement.
There is no logical explaination for the bridge to begin with. Why don't you start there?
Her new deception (or the one written for her) does not erase the stupidity of her involvement in the first place.

Tucker Bounds = shitball frat boy who can't even handle a republican's grilling on CNN . Full stop.

That being said, ahem, I agree that Obama needs to come out swinging at objects like these. The pinata is there, not for people to marvel at it's gravity defying presence. It is there to get it's ass broken wide open. If your opponent is willing to provide you with the stick, the fiesta and the chance to swing - take the fucking swing.

Sarah Palin wants to drive McCain over her "Bridge to Nowhere" to the White House. Obama needs to keep the spotlight on her lying so the bridge goes to nowhere.
Also, Obama should point out that Palin supported a Wasilla sales tax increase.

So, she kept the money and used it for other projects that would've had to be funded out of their own pockets. Then she discovers there's a surplus in the state coffers and promptly provides refunds to the citizens of the state. So, you could say she took the federal money (OUR MONEY) and used it to cut checks to Alaskans. Isn't that income redistribution? Isn't that supposed to makes conservatives heads explode?

So eventually she said no to the bridge but thanks I'll keep the pork??? Why would that earn her credit as a reformer? Insane...

Apparently the way they plan to respond when caught lying is to try some more lying.

Wasn't the bridge really killed in Congress after it became a poster child for pork? That's how I remember it....

This is pointless. No one cares about this stupid bridge. Sarah is running as girl next door and since there's not a swing vote alive who could define "progressive" why not vote for her? Got a reason better than this bridge? The Dems caved again today on SCHIP. They care about nothing. They stand up for nothing. They are not credible on any issue. And you wonder why Miss Congeniality is going to be elected President of the Class!!

And, hey, the polls "confirm" McCain's lead, so I guess undecided voters go for this made up shite.

I thought Ed Rendell's comments today were great. He kicked her even harder than the new Obama ad does.

PASSIVE VOICE = "More of the Same..." (Reminds me of Eeyore...)

ACTIVE VOICE = "Let's Throw the Bums Out!!"

Obama suffers from Kerryism. Simple declarative sentences please.

Tweety and Obermann were demoted to and will no longer be anchoring election coverage. Just thought I share that with you all. Hillary's chickens are coming to roost.

Tweety and Obermann were demoted to and will no longer be anchoring election coverage. Just thought I share that with you all. Hillary's chickens are coming to roost.

Tweety and Obermann were demoted to and will no longer be anchoring election coverage. Just thought I share that with you all. Hillary's chickens are coming to roost.

Is it wrong to point out the following fact?

Between 1969 and 1974 Richard Nixon was in power and we were blessed with Watergate, a corrupt war, and Vice Presidential misdeeds.

During these nearly same years (1967-73) John McCain was imprisoned in Vietnam, not knowing or learning anything about what happened to this country. He never had the opportunity to learn from Nixon's mistakes and is now intent on repeating them. He's not even in office yet and we have "Troopergate", a corrupt war he continues to support, and the misdeeds of the Vice Presidential nominee.

To quote George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." McCain was in prison and Palin was 10. They're not even in office yet and we're already repeating some of the worst of our country's history. Imagine how much worse it will be if they gain power.

http://www.petitiononline.com/giveback/petition.html

This is a petition just started to ask Congress and the President of the United States to request that Gov. Palin and the State of Alaska return the funds that are so obviously scorned by Sarah Palin.

Sure, we know it is just more of the same Republican lies that come so easily to them, but join me to make Sarah Palin put OUR money where HER mouth is -- or shut up.

I'm sure the American public can find somewhere to spend the $433,000,000.00 in funding that Alaska received because of that earmark.

Please sign the petition!

Neither Rachel nor Keith seem intent to remain silent of the exceedingly poor choice of Sarah Palin. There will be significant push-back. The polls are free to go fuck themselves.

and especially women laughing so the natural defense response of a man ridiculing a woman doesn't get activated.

By the same token, a woman laughing might not be taken as seriously as a man. I really think worrying about the goddamn gender war is a losing proposition. I think McLame is trying to rig the thing to keep people from criticizing her or asking her tough questions on just that basis - gender. They are running an extremely sexist campaign so far, but they've fooled people by running is with a woman on the ballot.

I think trying to tiptoe through those tulips is stupid - just treat her like she was a man - isn't that the point of equality? Not that we get treated like Scarlett O'Hara at the same time we're swimming in the shark tank - I don't think it works that way.

Take the fucking gloves off. Snap out of it - she's not a sacred cow.

you wonky elitists. why don't you lay off the man? he cares, goddammit, and don't ever forget it:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9DqR7zis99I

(yeah, i had to go the archives, but really, it's the line of the century)

We democrats are running stupid again.

If we think we're going to win this or even make a dent on the basis of whether Palin supported federal funding of a bridge in her state as a candidate and then withdrew support as governor when it looked like a bad deal for her state, we are, in fact, running more than stupid.

How is this possibly going to help us? What exactly is the complaint here? Are we suggesting that states should never receive federal assistance? Are we suggesting that a governor should never reconsider whether an offer of federal assistance is a good deal for his/her state?

THe temptation, I know, is to make this a case of hypocritic posturing and/or lying on the part of the McCain Palin ticket. But I actually think pushing this angle makes us look silly and defensive.

THey can just respond, as they have already responded, and no doubt will respond again, that Palin had the fiscal good sense to call a pig in a poke a pig in a poke. That's exercising sound executive judgment. Something Obama has never had to do.

I just don't see this as a winning issue.

The state has a $5B surplus and she still is grabbing the taxpayers' money from the lower 48. That's republican values. Make someone else pay.
The noble thing wouls be to not seek any earmarks or pork. The state doesn't need them.
If taxes are anathema to business, killing investment, research and development, why does she tax oil companies in Alaska just to give it to the residents of Alaska, instead of reinvesting it in future oil infrastructure? Sounds like socialist redistribution of wealth, Robin Hood by government as conservatives like to call taxation. What does Grover Norquist have to say about this?
She says she lowered property taxes in Wasilla but doesn't say she had to raise sales taxes to cover the hockey rink legal debacle that continues to run a tab with the lawyers.
If this is what McCain calls executive experience, no thanks. She sounds as autocratic, corrupt and incompetent as the current occupant. Given time, she could be worse.

The state has a $5B surplus and she still is grabbing the taxpayers' money from the lower 48. That's republican values. Make someone else pay.
The noble thing would be to not seek any earmarks or pork. The state doesn't need them.
If taxes are anathema to business, killing investment, research and development, why does she tax oil companies in Alaska just to give it to the residents of Alaska, instead of reinvesting it in future oil infrastructure? Sounds like socialist redistribution of wealth, Robin Hood by government as conservatives like to call taxation. What does Grover Norquist have to say about this?
She says she lowered property taxes in Wasilla but doesn't say she had to raise sales taxes to cover the hockey rink legal debacle that continues to run a tab with the lawyers.
If this is what McCain calls executive experience, no thanks. She sounds as autocratic, corrupt and incompetent as the current occupant. Given time, she could be worse.

I thought of the exact same episode of the West wing..

If you think it was so wasteful, Governor, can we have it back?

By the way Alaska gets about $1.70 from Washington for every dollar they send it taxes. Maybe she wants to give it all back.

Agreed. Did anyone see Obama on MSNBC tonight? Keith gave me a dozen chances to claim Sarah Palin LIED or the McCain-Palin campaign LIED about the Bridge to Nowhere and Obama said... "Well...uh... you know, if you ask the American people... then... uh ..."

Is anyone else getting tired of this? They are blatantly lying. The facts are on your side. FIGHT BACK for God's sake!

This thread is all well and food, but until it gets blasted in the MSM, day after day, it's meaningless. I'm already convinced, I'm part of the choir. I feel good reading it and knowing others understand, like I do, but it's the clueless masses that need convincing.

Just to beat a dead thread. Maybe, just maybe, it is catching on. Every political show on cable today was talking about Palin, and not glowingly. Anderson freakin weakass Cooper was just talking about her links to the Pentecostals, and more relevantly, her sitting there while Jews for Jesus jerkoff says Jews are being punished by God with acts of Terrorism. Her own personal Rev. Wright, and much, much more freaky than the (mostly white) UCC.
Consider this Day 1 of the MSM Palin pushback. I definitely sensed a more freewheeling approach today. As if the producers said, "fuck it, she won't talk to us, we'll run what we have".

And incidentally, the first time the wind-up toy speaks off the cuff she makes an absurd gaffe on the economy, the most important issue of the Election.

This is good. Keep up the good work. Good night!

How come no one has called TOTAL BS on the entire
palin thing. Everything from the get-go is 100% manufactured. The pick, the phoney "sexist" claims. The whole thing is a symbol of McCain's insecurity.

The sexist claims can be read back into McCain.
Its clear McCain passed over many qualified, older GOP women for a younger, more attractive woman. That is sexism right there. The fact that they printed up signs touting the "hottest GOV".
What???

I'm flashing back to the Ohio and Pennsylvania races when Hillary was doing the same thing. She was making stuff up just the same way, essentially splashing the press in very obvious manner. The press was going along with it.

I simply don't trust Obama's "be cool" philosophy on this. Rightly so, he shouldn't be flailing. But come on man, its time someone call the GOP out. Its time to show a spotlight on these very obvious and blatent moves.

I don't know. I feel like I'm going crazy. I'm frustrated because I can't seem to find anyone who sees the same thing I do. That this palin pick is all hype, 100% hype, filler, fluff. We shouldn't be ripping into Palin, we should be ripping into McCains decision on her, the backdoor meetings, and the cabal of Christian extremists who really made the decision.
McCain routinely caves into that side of the party against his own wishes. THAT is what I want to hear.

I want to see more catch phrases and sarcasm.
We need to make McCain supporters feel foolish or embarassed for supporting him or following along with Palin.

Maybe I'm crazy. Everyone says to calm down and focus on the ground game. That approach didn't seem to work that well late in the primary against Hillary. Obama lost his ass in the states he needs to win. There is a advantage to stirring things up, to engaging emotions up to a point where people willingly ignore facts. Hillary was brilliant at this.

If the GOP manufacture a sexist debate, then we sure as hell can manufacture a deception debate.

How come no one has called TOTAL BS on the entire
palin thing. Everything from the get-go is 100% manufactured. The pick, the phoney "sexist" claims. The whole thing is a symbol of McCain's insecurity.

The sexist claims can be read back into McCain.
Its clear McCain passed over many qualified, older GOP women for a younger, more attractive woman. That is sexism right there. The fact that they printed up signs touting the "hottest GOV".
What???

I'm flashing back to the Ohio and Pennsylvania races when Hillary was doing the same thing. She was making stuff up just the same way, essentially splashing the press in very obvious manner. The press was going along with it.

I simply don't trust Obama's "be cool" philosophy on this. Rightly so, he shouldn't be flailing. But come on man, its time someone call the GOP out. Its time to show a spotlight on these very obvious and blatent moves.

I don't know. I feel like I'm going crazy. I'm frustrated because I can't seem to find anyone who sees the same thing I do. That this palin pick is all hype, 100% hype, filler, fluff. We shouldn't be ripping into Palin, we should be ripping into McCains decision on her, the backdoor meetings, and the cabal of Christian extremists who really made the decision.
McCain routinely caves into that side of the party against his own wishes. THAT is what I want to hear.

I want to see more catch phrases and sarcasm.
We need to make McCain supporters feel foolish or embarassed for supporting him or following along with Palin.

Maybe I'm crazy. Everyone says to calm down and focus on the ground game. That approach didn't seem to work that well late in the primary against Hillary. Obama lost his ass in the states he needs to win. There is a advantage to stirring things up, to engaging emotions up to a point where people willingly ignore facts. Hillary was brilliant at this.

If the GOP manufacture a sexist debate, then we sure as hell can manufacture a deception debate.

The answer is really simple. Keep McCain tied to Palin even more tightly than he is now. Keep pointing out her lies. Use her ties to McShrub to call his judgement into question. Let the Social Conservatives see the McPalin ticket as a ticket of liars. Watch the SocCons decide to stay home on election day rather than choose between those two Servants of Satan, Barack Obama and John McCain.

And that would be sweet. Finally get rid of the SocCons and their pernicious influence in American politics.

Let's not be complacent and keep gloating on the bridge thing. The MSM is willing to help, but we have to provide new fuel.
bbb
Let's move to the next act. Fannie/Freddie.

McCain is trying to win the Fannie/Freddie debate as to who is more on top of things. They are sharpening their sales pitch by the hour.

Counter that. Starting right now. Here's how.

Fannie/Freddie have just been bailed out by the government. Can we trust McCain/Palin to protect you the tax-payer?

McCain's campaign is run by lobbyists, the same kind that Fannie/Freddie has been using to get away with their indiscretions for years, while McCain was the chairman of the Senate Commerce and Banking Committee.

McCain's top economic advisor Phil Graham had ties to Enron; he ripped millions from its collapse while leaving its employees out of job and out of pension.

Palin has billed Alaska's taxpayers for simply staying at her governor's mension doing personal business over 300 times . In fact, she hired lobbyists to get $1.89 for every dollar of federal tax Alaska has paied to the federal government.

Change isn't what McCain/Palin are. Change is what they need.

The Moonies call it "Heavenly Deception". A falsehood is not sinful if it helps to bring about the kingdom of God here on earth. In my opinion, this woman is merely a second rate despot, both in her family life and politically. She gives no sense of being interested in the common good.

The "Lie" ad: that's the one. Pound it home. Go national. We should see this ad in Kentucky.

Palin/McCain: A Bridge Too Far

In her statement finally ending the project, Palin explicitly lamented that fact. "Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329-million short of full funding for the bridge project," Palin said at the time, "and it's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island."

So, Governor Palin didn't say "we don't need our bridge to nowhere, and we will pay for it ourselves if we need it", that's what Congress said to her.

She should be pounded with the fact that she's completely reversed what happened.

My husband and I were following rick sanchez of cnn news, on twitter.com, and he assumed that by dividing the cnn screen to show viewers both Biden's and Palin's current speeches, he would garner a following for Palin, but he was sooo wrong. All negative comments. The woman, essentially, was (is) a screaming cheerleader rooting for a war vet who wants to make the Republican football team in Washington before he graduates (a gentler way of referring to his eventual demise). Keith Olbermann will air the second half of his interview with Obama tonight on msnbc (channel 120 of Comcast) or online at msnbc.com, and is a supporter of the Democrats. MSNBC has decided to respond to Fox News, CNN, ABC, and other right-extreme networks by airing their own left-leaning broadcasts(Countdown with Keith Olbermann and the Rachel Maddow Show) every week night--I believe the airings begin at 8pm eastern time, and the shows are a breath of fresh air compared to the other not-so-open media streams.