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McCain Campaign Falsely Attacks Obama For Something He Hasn't Said Yet

Not sure we've ever seen this one before. The McCain campaign has just blasted out a statement attacking Barack Obama for something he hasn't even said and might say later today!

From McCain spokesperson Brian Rogers:

In his rush to score political points on economic disaster, we've heard that at his next event in New Mexico, Senator Obama is about to distort the facts and attack John McCain's call for removing the Chairman of the SEC...

The President of the United States has the power to remove the chairmanship, and always reserves the right to request the resignation of an appointee and to maintain the customary expectation that it will be delivered. Perhaps Barack Obama isn't strong enough to change Washington, but John McCain is.

The line about Obama's supposed coming attack on McCain for his "call for removing" the SEC chair is a reference to McCain's claim earlier today in which he said: "If I were president today, I would fire him."

As you can see, the McCain campaign misrepresented what McCain actually said. He didn't "call for removing" him. He said he'd fire him. Presidents can't unilaterally fire the SEC chair.

Hmmm. Are we seeing the birth of a new McCain campaign doctrine of preemptive lying?


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See this proves that McCain has that readiness. He does not blink.

Palin/McCain

Also, it shows that it's unfair to criticize him for his verbage.

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For five and a half years he didn't have any verbage...

or roughage...

Someone should ask Palin if she supports the McCain doctrine.

In what respect, Moose?

hahahahah

funniest reply ever

You mean his world-view?

You mean his economic view?

It's ironic how blink and think sound the same and make huge differences.

Hmmm, the real problem is that wink lies and then blink swears to it. What a congenial pair, eh?

Touche!

thanks for the laugh!

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Good grief! It's a sure sign that McCain has no message of his own and is just making stuff up as he goes along if he's attacking Obama for something he thinks Obama might say.

McCain--let no lie go untold.

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Get them in while you're still alive! (notice the word "alive" has a lie in it!)

and.... Obama just went over this issue and didn't attack McCain like that. Yeah... there real smart over there in the McCain camp.

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That's because Ed Glosser, is on the case.

"I sense that McCain is saying you'll say things in a particular way...they're hitting you on what they think you'll say! It's not too late! You can change the future! You can say...something different. It...it should be easy, they published it so you can just read it over and make sure not to say that."

In a fundamental way, by saying "fire", McCain obviously meant he would "strongly urge that the presidential appointee resign from his post."


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Maybe he really said "liar" and we misheard it!

Impressive! I've heard that McCain may have sex with a lobbyist. Don't do it McCain!

Obama is on a roll again today.

He just said why stop with the SEC Chairman? In 47 days we can fire ALL OF THEM!

Not those words exactly, but that's the gist.

BRILLIANT!

OH MY GOODNESS. Obama is TORCHING them right now, simply brilliant.

I like this approach to fighting back on the change argument from Obama, saying that change isn't just a slogan. Flipping the empty rhetoric attack right back at McCain.

Obama also said about McCain's changing positions: (Paraphrasing) "He doesn't know whether he wants to be Barry Goldwater or Dennis Kucinich!"

nice job..barack...

So Obama edited it out? I guess it would have been just arguing semantics and could have lead to a distraction that McCain's camp is desperate for right now. That and it would draw attention to the fact that McCain wants to fire him (which probably plays well, regardless if it's illegal or not).

I'm not sure he edited it out so much as the McCain campaign assumed he was going to say something that he didn't.

The McCain Campaign Doctrine of Preemptive Lying

I like that one. Someone in the Obama campaign needs to pick up on that.

John

Well, it appears they are already trying to cover the latest McCain gaffe. There are already numerous stories pointing out that the President can't actually fire the SEC chairman, so the McCain campaign appears to have assumed that Obama would use that against McCain (after all, McCain would have used that against Obama if the situation were reversed).

The problem is, Obama did NOT mention this because Obama is smarter than that. He knows to focus on the McCain statements which show that McCain is out of touch with average Americans and their economic experience. I doubt Obama will play up either the Spain gaffe or the SEC gaffe.

So, in the end, the McCain campaign could have let this slide, but now it will probably get more attention because Obama didn't mention it. Hilarious.

They are good...using the crystal ball and knowing the future...this is amazing shit that they attacked before Obama said anything...I wish they would just go away...

it's too bad they seem to have misplaced that crystal ball when it came to the iraq war.

With Oilbama, who voted WITH Bush and Cheney in full support of their Big Oil Energy Bill, you can pretty much figure anything he says is going to be a Lie. Consider these Fifty.

50 Oilbama claimed he had never prayed in a Mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
49 Oilbama dishonestly used third party comments in his ads to pump up his healthcare plan
48 Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Oilbama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
47 Oilbama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn’t familiar with the word “Clintonian”; then changed his story
46 Despite reeking of cigarettes, Oilbama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
45 Oilbama said he’d meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he “didn’t have Ahmadinejad in mind”
44 Oilbama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
43 Oilbama’s rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
42 Claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
41 Oilbama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
40 Oilbamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
39 Oilbama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
38 Oilbama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
37 Oilbama claims Church not controversial; he lied since 86
36 Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
35 Oilbamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
34 Oilbama denies meeting Saddam’s Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
33 Oilbama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
32 Oilbama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
31 Oilbama says he’s consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
30 Oilbama claims he’s above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
29 Oilbama claims his “bitter” remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
28 Oilbama stated he’d stopped wearing flag pin on chest; now denies saying it, but video proves he is lying
27 Oilbama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
26 Changes story repeatedly re Rezko’s help in buying mansion
25 Oilbama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
24 Oilbama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
23 Campaign is beholden to “only the people” as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
22 Claims campaign never called Canada to say Oilbama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
21 Mrs Oilbama admits she’s never been proud of America; Video disproves Sen. Oilbama’s later claim she was misquoted
20 Claimed would not run for President
19 Claims famous in Il. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
18 Claims his parents met at Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Oilbama’s birth
17 Oilbama claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
16 Claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
15 Claimed he didn’t know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
14 Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
13 Denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
12 Claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bullshit
11 Lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
10 Claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
9 Took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
8 Claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
7 Denies doubling wife’s salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
6 Denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
5 Denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree
4 Claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
3 Claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilige
2 Claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
1 Claims father linked to Kennedys; Washington Post proves he lied

Dem Bill C, starring in the new film: "Troll Jizz, the Sequel"

Next Dem BillC post:

"All work and no play makes Dem BillC a dull boy"

Repeated about 500 times. That wear him out.

We must be doing better than I thought. Dem Bill C seems to be in a bit of a panic today.

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How can you tell?

Does post length equate indicate panic?

No point in even discussing post quality, is there?

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Damn. That comment was practically incomprehensible. Must be proximity to DemBillC.

No, no...I understood you. :-)

Actually, my point about panic is related to the shear volume that he is spamming today. It started this morning about the time the polls started coming out.

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I've been away most of today and have been, fortunately, spared of this thread abuse.

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The longer his post - the more WE are winning.

Any links DemBillC?

BTW, who the hell is Oilbama? Last I checked Barack Obama wasn't chanting "drill baby drill" or being swayed by big oil's lobbyists or giving the big oil huge tax breaks.

Keep it up with the posts, soon enough you with all of your McCain Troll Points you can get branded McCain Palin Chinese finger trap.

Here is the George W Bush Chinese finger trap, it seemingly does a good job keeping him busy.

http://www.dailyprobe.com/arcs/102803/cuffs.jpg

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I'm an Obama supporter - but I'm not drinking the kool-aid either. I think Obama is mainstream. I shut down republicans who start out the conversation that Obama is way "left".

Just go down the basic issues - Obama is mainstream.

But folks who come from the Chomsky side have legitimate issues with the good-war(Afghanistan) /// bad-war (Iraq) scenario.

And like it or not - Nader saw this financial crisis long ago and spoke out "before it was cool".

Obama is a good start.


Dude, find your meds and get back on them. Now. I know the side effects are unpleasant, but you're going to end up on a Secret Service watch list or something if you stay on this trajectory.

I NEVER read a post of someone who cannot even spell 'Obama' correctly. It is so childish and uneducated that one just knows the entire post is going to be too stupid. But never the less, have a happy day and for your information, it is spelled O b a m a!

The McCain campaign is developing psychic powers...

Be afraid, be very... Sorry, sorry, I can't stop myself from laughing. This could be something sad if it wasn't so funny.

Movie pitch: Horrible political campaign meets "The Dead Zone".

But he might have been thinking about saying it, which is bad enough!

In his rush to score political points on economic disaster...

Are you as sick and tired as I am of hearing this "scoring political points" crap?

If you tell me that McCain has not tried to score political points exploiting 9/11, his status as a POW, and his appointment of a female for VP, then I have a bridge in Alaska that I want to sell you.

I really can't tell anymore whether the McCain people are really losing it themselves, or whether just have to say crazy shit like this because all their followers are insane and its the only way to communicate with them.

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That's an interesting theory, that he has to do this in order to reach the wingNUTS.

Obama did great in New Mexico: Si se puede!

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He is mere miles from here - if Mr. Tena hadn't come in yesterday for a quick visit, I might have tried to go. Of course, Mr. Tena is presently down at the Taos CC on the driving range - ;)

Except that my roofer showed up today and is tearing the roof off one of the sheds.

So close, and yet so far! Alas

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I'd call this preemptive panicking, because the McCain camp probably realized that the "McCain can't decide if he's Barry Goldwater or Dennis Kucinich" was going to attract a teeny bit of attention, much like "That's a staff meeting!" comment yesterday.

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He already pre-emptively insulted his running mate on Obama's behalf, when he said that talking about a stinky fish rotting from the head was a jab at her.

Up until then, I don't that image had occurred to anyone. McLame managed to make it stick in a lot of people's heads.

LOL!

and there is greatest politician ever, Sarah the pitbull said today

"We’re going to do a few new things also," she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. "For instance, as Alaska’s governor, I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back. We’re going to bring that back to D.C."

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

Sarah is going to one-up Barack and put all her personal emails online too.

Wheeeeeeee I can cut and paste here too! YAY!

Ohhhhh Looky, Dem BillC! I can cut and paste! I am learning SO much from you today. Thank you Thank you Thank you!

"Oilbama". Hahaha Oh you tickle my funny bone.

I get it! You took OBAMA...and changed it to OILbama to make your clever and smart point. Seriously....all you had to do was add an "il after to "O" in Obama to make it "Oilbama" Where do you come up with this stuff? I bow down to your clever and witty word play.

I wonder if I can do it too......

Hmmmmmm

Dem BillC

How about... "Dumb BillC"? You see I changed the "e" to a "u" and added a "b" and VOILA..... "Dumb BillC". This expresses my opinion that you are dumb. Ohhhhhh I am clever too!

Howa bout "ShutheF*ckUpDem BillC". See by adding a "Shut The F*ck Up" to your name, it shows my desire for you to shut the f*ck up and stop copying and pasting your Republican talking points on every post. Ok that one's not as good as 'Dumb BillC", I admit. But I am just "learning" how to be as smart as you!

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Thanks for the chuckle!

UPDATE THE ARTICLE

OBAMA JUST SAID THIS IN NM:

"[McCain] said that he is calling for the firing of the Security and Exchange Commissioner. Well I think that is all fine and good, but here is what I say: In 47 days, you can fire the whole Trickle-Down, On-Your-Own, Look-the-Other-Way crowd in Washington who has led us down this disastrous path. Don’t just get rid of one guy, get rid of this administration, get rid of this philosophy, get rid of the do-nothing approach to problems and put someone in there who is going to fight for you."

Bahahahaha!

Not only did they pre-emptively attack Obama, they completely botched the response!

I'm sorry. The McCain camp is run by fucking idiots.

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Wooooo Hooooooooooooooo!!!!!


and: http://punditkitchen.com/2008/09/05/political-pictures-barack-obama-chill-out-got-this/


I always knew he did.

[great big grin]

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Jimmy? You're ALIVE?

Thanks for that quote. That's just excellent. Sure to get some air time.

that was a GREAT quote by obama, mccain threw a softball, obama hit it out of the park

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He ran with it, and now there's absolutely nothing the McCain campaign can say in response.

Positively delightful situation.

So that means the response tomorrow will probably be "Ok, but let's talk about Reverend Wright".

The campaign was so dirty while McCain was up, it's not going to be pretty now that they're darn.

wow. that doesn't sound very post-partisan of him... if he brings that kind of fire to appalachia obama can bring ohio into his column.

the way to beat republicans is to run against republicans.

Well, maybe he didn't really say it, but he was dang sure thinking about saying it!

Grrr.

This keeps up, someone in the McCain camp will have to call 9-1-1.

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This keeps up and somebody may have to call 911 for an ambulance. McLame is really losing it. And he looks terrible.

I look for Barack to detonate the old guy in the first debate, say something to ignite that short fuse.

Ka-frickin-boom.

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He looks like he's wound so tightly now that it won't take much.

I think he's had to live with this impulse Palin buy and I don't think it has gone anything like he'd hoped.

Someone, probably on this forum, compared the debate dynamic to being like the last scene in "A Few Good Men" - irritable military man vs. young Ivy Leaguer, with the latter trying to get the former to lose his cool.

It's only a matter of time before we're all told to go fuck ourselves.

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The proactive lie.

A verbal weapon intended to trap and kill the opponent, placed along the path in advance and initially in secret, so as to be positioned for maximum effect when when sprung upon the enemy, as he reaches the point of ambush.

Anyone remember Pooh and Piglet trying to figure out just where to dig the cunning trap to catch a Hefalump? They decided that the optimal place to dig was on the path the Hefalump would travel just before he stepped into the trap. Of course, they had absolutely no idea just where that might be…

Yeah, that's the ticket, Senator: you and your senior staff are as clueless as those hapless but adorable AA Milne characters. In fact, you sort of look like Pooh - in a grandfatherly sort of way. But, mean. And, vindictive. And, of very little brain.

Truth does not matter, apparently: only vanquishing the enemy by whatever means are at hand.

These people are crazy. Bat-shit crazy! All of them. A lie told in anticipation of an outcome, which has not yet occurred and may or may not ever occur. Sort of like a preemptive nuclear first strike, but verbal, and obviously not so deadly. Dastardly and dangerous, but without the widespread lingering effect of radioactive fallout.

Can Political Campaigns be involuntarily committed because they are a danger to themselves and others? Just thought I'd ask since this is approaching insanity.

McCain is hearing voices.

And they keep calling at three in the morning.

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McCain is ready on day -1!

Why in the heck would you issue a press release in advance? Got some wind-surfing to do in the afternoon or something?

Actually , Obama has addressed McCains call to fire the SEC chief. He said, you the voter has a chance to fire the whole bunch! By voting for Obama in November

Roll on, Team Obama!

damn it, Tena, I thought you would be here. I am, alas, at work, and not in Espanola either.

BTW, there is the snopes link debunking 99.44% of billc's sillypost.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

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I should have timed it better - I should have asked Mr. Tena when he was planning to be here and when he was going to be down at the Taos CC.

My bad.

(you gotta love this place - it costs $500 to join the Taos CC and $50 to play golf - which is cheaper than the public course Mr. Tena plays in Dallas)

thanks for the laugh!

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The fine folks of the state of Arizona—okay, not so much the ones who brought you Governor Evan Mecham and Representative Rick Renzi—should be dropping their heads in shame, and wondering if their clueless senior Senator is even fit to return to the Senate, let alone move on the White House.

How about a recall, guys? I'm just sayin'…

McBallnChain writes-
"BTW, who the hell is Oilbama? Last I checked Barack Obama wasn't chanting "drill baby drill" or being swayed by big oil's lobbyists or giving the big oil huge tax breaks."

Actually McCain, along with Hillary, voted AGAINST the Bush Cheney Energy Bill which was crafted in secret meetings with Oil Lobbyists and contains 8 Billion in give aways to Big Oil.

Oilbama voted FOR it. Hence Oilbama.It was Oilbama's only bipartisan vote. Ever.

You keep throwing this dog out there, but it won't hunt, son. In short, so what?

In fact, nothing in your inane ramblings can magically undo Obama's ground org, which is where this election will be won.

Nor will your twisted logic undo McLiar's lies.

It's over, dude. All you should be concerned with now is waking up McMuleFritters to let him know.

oops, thought you would be THERE.

I got billc's "50 lies" email from my republican sister today. I always just send back the snopes url.....

Grampy is getting desperate. And a bit pathetic.

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No offense - I think he's beyond desperate and way more than a bit pathetic.

He was a bit pathetic going in - ;)

I'd like to see any evidence that he is actually making the campaign's decisions.

He's taking desperate and pathetic to a whole new level.

I guess that's true. Maybe the Obama folks can start issuing premptive mockings of upcoming McSame gaffes??

Intrade now has Obama has 298 electoral votes. He was under 270 yesterday.

It is astonishing, in this long campaign, that polls are still able to swing.

I'm with Carville: short of a major Obama gaffe, the swing ought to continue. Neither McLiar nor Sarahcuda are passing the smell test.

I'm not sure what they flipped, actually.

I think they switched Ohio to Obama. And maybe Colorado. But I don't remember for sure.

"Are we seeing the birth of a new McCain campaign doctrine of preemptive lying?"

More like a doctrine of post-emptive attempted fuckup correction.

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Except that he fucked-up by doing the pre-emptive fuck-up correction so now he has to do two.

Oh, he'll make more. There's like 5 today.

I wonder if Halperin still thinks McCain won the week.

Of course. To Halperin, everything is EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR MCCAIN!!!

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is it a preemptive lying, or preventive lying?

there's a difference, ya know..

Obama should make issue of the "pre-emptive smear lie" if for no other reason to bring up his "Fire them all" zinger.

hee hee hee

Tweety is replaying his attack on Cantor, followed by three polls showing Obama ahead, with an avg. swing of 7 points to Obama in the last 72 hours.

Chris intends to further the debate of how the GOP can possibly claim it had no role in the last 8 years.

Wow. Just when I think they can't get any further from truthfulness ...

I should stop being surprised.

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Obama's response was PERFECT!


"[McCain] said that he is calling for the firing of the Security and Exchange Commissioner. Well I think that is all fine and good, but here is what I say: In 47 days, you can fire the whole Trickle-Down, On-Your-Own, Look-the-Other-Way crowd in Washington who has led us down this disastrous path. Don’t just get rid of one guy, get rid of this administration, get rid of this philosophy, get rid of the do-nothing approach to problems and put someone in there who is going to fight for you."

don't say that- they are trying to desensitize the public and media to lies so they can write their own bogus narrative to justify winning/stealing elections. always be outraged at these things no matter how seemingly trivial

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Talk about more of the SAME, Bush could read minds and know that "they are thinking about how to destroy Amurka."
McCain used this tactic already. They came out fighting that Obama's camp had insulted Palin and they had been very careful to say nothing about her. MSM joined in the lies as if that had happened too.
With alllllllll of the talking heads spouting right wing propaf***ganda they are still losing ground. Even though WE ARE the biggest idiots on the planet for having a Bush govt, we aren't willing to concede this last little bit of disbelief...that McCain knows ANYTHING.
Stick a fork in him, he's done.

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just wondering, but is the chairman of the SEC confirmed by a particular Senate committee?

Like the Senate Commerce Committee? McCains?

If true, what did the good Senator have to say about Chairman Cox during the hearing?

...prolly banking: Chris Dodd is chair.

actually i think gramm-leach-bliley made it a crime (punishable by death from mauling by bears, bulls, and elephants) for congress to attempt any oversight of financial "regulators".

post-emptive attempted fuckup correction.

Heh. A keeper.

What a week: Can't help but wonder what they'll do next?

Let's face it. McCain has said we need to "defeat evil", that we need to stamp out "greed".

A little prognostication is certainly within the powers of God.

Just a thought,,,,, Perhaps a preemptive impeachment of the jolly twosome would be in order,,,,, just in case. Nancy and Harry,, are you listening?

Brilliant! :-)

McCain has also "called for" the reuniting of The Beatles by the power vested in him as Commander-in-Chief of The Yellow Submarine.

When I keep seeing this style of campaigning by McCain, I wonder over and over how it is that he seems to be doing as well as he is. It was only yesterday when I read an article in the Huffington Post did I see that the question could be flipped on its head: given how misleading and viscious the nature of McCain's attacks, why is he not doing better? This gave me hope.

Now you guys hold Bush up as a good example. You are plain wrong. Know your facts the SEC Chairman does inded serve at the pleasure of the President.
Read/learn--don't spout ignorance.
http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/massive_misinformation_on_the_web_the_president_can_fire_the_sec_chairman/

Another try.

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