McCain: Bailout Deal Won't Pass
From John McCain's speech today at the Clinton Global Initiative:
I cannot carry on a campaign as though this dangerous situation had not occurred, or as though a solution were at hand, which it clearly is not. As of this morning I suspended my political campaign...It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration's proposal to meet the crisis. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time. So I am returning to Washington to seek five fundamental improvements to this critical legislation.
But as the Obama campaign was quick to note, the Associated Press says a deal is imminent, and other press reports this morning indicate that the negotiations have progressed considerably.
Could it be that the fate of civilization as we know it doesn't hinge entirely on McCain's heroic return to D.C.?















Is it official yet? Can we now say that McCain has officially gone off the deep end?
September 25, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's way, way off the deep end.
September 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno, but he is flaming out quick!
September 25, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with unaboogie. Suspension is just a new form of campaigning.
September 25, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or could it be that Republicans in Congress are willing to put our economy at greater risk in order to help their candidate score political points? They could refuse to support the plan.
September 25, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
My understanding would be all they would need is one Repub on the committee to get to the floor for a vote, and then a few Repubs to vote yes.
September 25, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good thing he's going back. Apparently you can only see the consensus if you're in Washington.
September 25, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ya don't say?
September 25, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Translation:
The parade has started and I need to run to get to the front.
September 25, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
There has been a clear consensus on the Administration's proposal. Everyone is against it.
It's Dodd's plan that people are getting behind.
September 25, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
September 25, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Even the Repugs are with Dodd on this.
Hell, I saw Ollbermann last night. I saw Dodd and then I saw the Repug agreeing with him.
Bush is not going to get anything he wants at this point.
September 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is cover for an urgent trip to Walter Reed.
September 25, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've had the same thought. Stroke?
September 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting. I noticed in the video of his suspension announcement yesterday that his left eye was part way closed while his right eye was all the way opened. I've never noticed that before.
September 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Look at his photo on Intrade. His eye has always looked funny. But now it's got make-up too. So it looks diseased!
September 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, ok, I guess I just never looked that closely. Must be from his heroic torture and imprisonment.
September 25, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think it relates to puffiness from the former cancer.
September 25, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
What happens if he expires before the election?
September 25, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "animate" a CORPSE - which is what we've got already!
September 25, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't McCain pretty blatantly seeking to mislead people by suggesting that the Bush/Cheney/Paulson administration's plan is the only plan on the table?
Obviously, there is a strong Democratic counterproposal on the table, and according to the excellent reporting over at TPM-M (maybe you guys at TPM-EC can cross-post), the plan has been on the table in the same basic form all week.
You can even read the outline of the plan at TPM-M! That sounds like it's on the table to me!
September 25, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's right. But the Bush-Paulson Plan was DOA. This is about Dodd's Plan and McCain can't fix his lips to give him credit.
The McCain Campaign is the living incarnation of the phrase FUBAR.
September 25, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
These seem to be the EXACT same words he was saying a day or 2 agao - maybe he was reading the wrong cue card???
September 25, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's funny how he acts like showing up for his fucking job is some ground-breaking act.
September 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's missed two thirds of the 600-odd Senate votes in the 110th Congress; the only guy who's even remotely near that is Tim Johnson, and that's only because Johnson's been fighting cancer. McCain hasn't appeared in the Senate since April 8. So yes, McCain showing up for his job is newsworthy.
September 25, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
This has nothing to do with the national economy; it is his campaign's economy. McCain can't afford to campaign for the next 40 days. He is going to be outspent on every level, so he wants to take his ball and go home for a while.
September 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've been thinking the same thing. He shot his wad.
September 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is the same line he used yesterday (already a day late), which clearly refers to the originally proposed Bush/Paulson plan. That plan hasn't been seriously considered for at least 48 hours. Similar to RoboPalin, once McCain gets locked on a talking point (or rehearses a speech), it seems as if there's too much room for error if they try to modify his remarks as "facts on the ground" change.
Really is a trainwreck.
September 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
These pitbulls must have lockjaw.
September 25, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone else think McCain's campaign suspension will end before his campaign manages to pull all of his ads off the air?
September 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Honestly, I don't know what's going on. I can't make any predictions about what will happen next.
September 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep.
September 25, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
What is this "dangerous situation" that has occurred? (according to mcShame) We've all been living with this for over a year now! And knowing about it for far long.
Where was this guy for the past 8 years?
September 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Working for ACORN pushing the bad loans that led to this and campaigning...oops, that was the other guy...sorry.
September 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remind me again, what years did Obama work for ACORN?
September 25, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice, it's the poor folks fault that rich folks lost their money.
Did you see where McCain said in Scranton we should find a path to citizenship for those 50K poor illegal Irish immigrants?
September 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok. Now I've figured it out... it's the poll numbers and the Intrade (57 to 43 now!) - yeah, that can be dangerous!
September 25, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently McCain is holding a rally at the Philadelphia airport today. At least according to Ambinder.
September 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
but that's not "campaigning" right????
September 25, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's not "campaign suspension" we can believe in!
September 25, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
What the fuck?!
Ok, I'm gobsmacked. He suspends campaigning except for the campaigning.
September 25, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It just occurred to me that McCain's timeout might be necessary to find a replacement for Rick Davis. And then find a good explanation for why McCain lied about Davis's payoffs.
September 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well what's wrong with McLame? Clinton fired campaign staff who were a problem. So did Obama.
September 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, that would admit he'd made, or could appear to have made, a mistake. Can't have that!
September 25, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Losing Rassmussen and Letterman-not bad for a days "work"...
September 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unbelievably cynical use of the economic situation for political ends.
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-trailing-in-polls-continues.html
Wednesday, September 24, 2008
McCain, Trailing in Polls, Continues Campaign By "Suspending" It
John McCain, trailing by 9 points in national polls, has announced that he is "suspending" his campaign.
Having lost significant ground to Obama on the issue of the economy, and facing a potentially defining and withering debate on Friday where he would be confronted on his statements on the economy that have led to this sharp decline, McCain has attempted to change the rules of the game, to erase many past errors through a putatively "unpolitical" move--something we have seen before.
A simple question: Under the same economic conditions, if McCain had been leading, does anyone believe that McCain would have "suspended" his campaign?
This is the ultimate in cynicism--using the current conditions in order to attempt to blunt a sharp decline and try to control the media dialogue, through a political act designed to avoid a potential political debacle. He is continuing his campaign--which was leading to loss in all directions--by "suspending" it. It is an attempt to silence media criticism and questions--and to prevent a debate on these issues that for him is sharply unfavorable.
This is impulsivity masked as statesmanship, as well as an attempt to control the media dialogue, as we saw yesterday at the U.N. He wants to attempt to force media to avoid covering openly his flailing campaign--the cynically political masked as the unpolitical, as we saw in the VP pick.
McCain, in attempting to avoid the debate in the face of his decline in the polls, until he can try to control the issue that has caused his decline, shows an extraordinary willingness to use difficult conditions to erase and avoid political errors, and serve political needs.
The Chicago Tribune provides us with indication of what "suspending the campaign" actually means:
This is just the time for a debate. We can work on solutions at the same time. Don't be cowed.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-trailing-in-polls-continues.html
September 25, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
You could just, you know, post a teaser from the blog article rather than the whole thing so people have a reason to click on the link.
September 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dammit, you quit that for one whole day. Now you're back to spamming. What makes you think we'll read your spam just cause you took a day off?
Stop that, please. It's rude.
September 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Send your request to talk at talkingpoints memo dot com. Tell them to boot the poster!
September 25, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will never visit your site because you fail to understand one simple rule. This is the "COMMENT" section, not the "my-blog-post-of-the-day" section. If you can't figure that out, what possibly could I learn that would be of use from your blogspot?
September 25, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate to say it, but I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the guy (McCain). This is all so pathetic.
Thanks for playing; here's a parting gift.
Just asking: What happens if a Presidential nominee doesn't make it to election day? Has that ever happened? Don't think it has.
We actually vote for "electors", so I suppose the votes for that person would be votes for his electors, who could then cast their electoral votes for somebody else -- I think the laws for these electors may vary, state to state, however.
-- ARG
September 25, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose they just "animate" a CORPSE. Which is what we've got already!
September 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
This may be "Weekend at Bernies 3"
Who knew McCain was old man Bernie...
September 25, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
NO mercy on the enemy! He'll rip your heart out if you don't rip his out first! Keep firing until ALL the bastards are defeated!
September 25, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is setting himself up as a white knight.
McCain is trying to orchestrate a game with the congressional Republicans, saying to them oppose for now and let me come in and "save it" in the 11th hour. Will they play along? Probably.
If things start to look that way, Dems need to come out HARD and say that the Republicans are treating this crisis like a political game. They are not serious about solving this issue, only about trying to score political points.
September 25, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Try as he might... that Letterman video will prevent it.
September 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
MASON - people aren't stupid, regardless of what the geniuses here think.
There's no way McLame rides in and saves the day now - everyone knows he just quit and it would look like the biggest political stunt of all time, next to choosing Sarah Palin as a running mate - and it will not sit well with people that he's using this crisis in that manner.
September 25, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
A number of Dems involved in the negotiations have been saying this since last night. Unless McCain has every Republican in on it, this strategy is a no-go. It might work with the base (who hate the bill), but for most of the undecideds, he'll just look foolish.
September 25, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I should have said "trying to" set himself up as a white knight. I agree that it would be seen as a horribly cynical political ploy, especially with so many in the MSM now off the tire swing.
But, it's good to hear that it won't work without all the Repubs on board.
September 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also, by "taking the initiative" to "suspend his campaign" and return to "work on the crisis" he's demonstrating his proven leadership abilities.
Actually it would be entirely clownish if Bush hadn't stepped in like the King of the GOP Daddies and demanded Obama's presence at his table today. When I read about that I got the distinct impression that it was a kind of a rebuke and possibly an override of Obama's refusal to cancel tomorrow's debate. (i.e. "I kin *make* you cancel yore debate, son"...)
Waiting to see, what will be...
September 25, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is so cool, calm and collected. There is no way to work this guy over!
September 25, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's setting up to take credit when it does pass. "One day everyone was bickering while the fate of the country hung in the balance, and the next we miraculously had a deal. All because I suspended my campaign and went to Warshington to sit both sides down and tell them to cut the BS. I single-handedly saved the country from another Depression in the course of 24 hours! And I'm not even President yet!" What's scary is that he may actually believe this stuff. The guy is a megalomaniac.
September 25, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
And how is he going to do that, now?
There's no way it wouldn't be seen as nothing more than a stunt.
September 25, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
For the record, I don't think he'll be successful. I can see how what I wrote could be read as pessimism, but the main point I was trying to make was the megalomania bit, not the taking credit bit.
September 25, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gotcha.
September 25, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
From the movie Gladiator:
"Father, have I missed it? Have I missed the battle?
Son, you've missed the war."
September 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
From the movie Gladiator:
"Father, have I missed it? Have I missed the battle?
Son, you've missed the war."
September 25, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny how suspending your campaign looks just like campaigning.
September 25, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hm, erm, yes... Still running ads, still making appearances.
Don't worry. Someone from the team will explain Real Soon Now how what Senator McCain *meant* was that the American worker is course still strong, and ... oh wait, that was last week...
September 25, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I propose that McCain withdraw from public view until after November 4, so as not to politicize the election.
September 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, I am struggling to come to terms with this question: when—exactly—did the McCain campaign 'jump the shark?'
I mean, seriously: there are so many potential moments to nominate! Is there any consensus? Would this transparent, feeble attempt to salvage civilization be the one, did it happen much earlier, or is there some crazed event lurking on the horizon—so vile that we cannot yet imagine it clearly—that tops this nonsense?
September 25, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's jumped that poor shark so many times that she now carries a can of mace and a stun gun.
September 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Er, that's not what is meant in this case, by "jumped". Note that the shark is not a model, heiress, or hot lobbyist.
September 25, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting what Bill Clinton had to say. He indicated he believed McCain was trying to help forge Bi Partisan compromise and that Oilbama, who voted for the Buch Cheney Energy Bill, turned down McCain"s challenge to have 12 different debates already this summer. Now Oilbama wants to debate in the middle of the biggest economic crisis since the great depression, instead of trying to doing anything to help fix the problem.
Oilbama believes he more oratory is the solution, as he just loves to hear himself speak.
September 25, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
hey retard, niether Obama or McCain are on the comittee working the bill at this point.
THEY CAN'T DO A DAMN THING.
Get your shit straight. The only thing worse than a troll is a stupid troll.
September 25, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
O love, "stupid troll" is redundant.
;)
September 25, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
President Clinton did NOT indicate that "…he believed McCain was trying to help forge Bi Partisan compromise and that Oilbama, who voted for the Buch Cheney Energy Bill, turned down McCain"s challenge to have 12 different debates already this summer."
Or, anything of that sort. Substantiate your foolish claim, idiot, or shut up!
September 25, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Oilbama believes he more oratory is the solution"
Also, it's hard to smoke crack and type at the same time, I see.
September 25, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
A solution is NOT at hand! It is clearly not! not not not!
September 25, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that Obama will do a press conference this afternoon after the "BIG" meeting and blast Bush and McLame for the political stunt they are trying tp pull off today. They are politicing ther situation and what an opportunity for Obama to fry their asses. What will this meeting accomplish? McLame contributes what in the meeting? Obama should take the opportunity here and ridicule them!
September 25, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama had the chance to do this yesterday and he seemed to pull his punches: "I thought that this was something that he was mulling over. Apparently this was something that he was more decisive about in his own mind." Not exactly prosecutorial, was it?
I sometimes wonder if he has a killer instinct. He'll need one when it comes to the likes of Putin and the Pakistanis.
September 25, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Killer instincts can be demonstrated in different ways. Sometimes giving rope to your foes to hang themselves with and then waiting for strategic opportune moments to give the rope a solid pull to make sure it's tight is better than coming out guns blazing. In the big leagues, everyone can hit a fastball so sometimes you gotta throw the curve or even the knuckler!
How many metaphors can YOU mix in one comment?! HA!
September 25, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm really glad that in a time of crisis, McCain's campaign staff is busily calling local tv and radio networks to cancel ad buys. It's a great help to the nation. We are all lucky to have these men on the job. As a Dem, i'm so glad they're too distracted with canceling campaign actions to be working on the bailout.
September 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
You can be sure the McCain 527's -- the really nasty ads and the only ones that work for him -- will continue to run. All McCain has to do is plead helplessness.
September 25, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Concerning the current debate "debate", here is what I would like to hear Obama say:
IN A CRISIS, THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT SUSPEND ITS DEMOCRACY. THE LIFE BLOOD OF DEMOCRACY IS DEBATE. THEREFORE LET AMERICA'S DEMOCRACY GO FORWARD. LET THE DEBATES GO FORWARD.
Obama needs to pound this cowardly and cynical ploy by McPalin. OMG what dangerous people!
P.S. What's with Bill Clinton? Is he about to endorse McPalin, or what?
September 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
You need not be concerned about a looming 'emergency suspension' of the election itself, as what is left of the US armed forces would not execute such an emergency order, or allow others to do so. There will be no martial law for you!
How ironic would it be that the Constitution was saved by the military at the last moment, snatched—in its now tattered state—from the clutches of civilian leadership. This sort of thing is only supposed to happen in novels and small, despotic countries.
September 25, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
And yet... will the media and the teevee bloviators fall for it? "McCain seizes control of the narrative with this bold move..." blah blah.
Meanwhile, what about Rick Davis? What about Palin's pathetic performance w/ Couric?
agggggg my head is going to explode!
September 25, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well your head doesn't have to explode.
Things are going very well for Obama, in my view. McLame is not a White Knight - everybody please quit worrying!
September 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have seen McCain strip Obama of the ball so many times now in so many implausible ways that I am not at all confident that he isn't in the process of doing it again. The poll numbers are looking good now, but in three days? My head is exploding, too. I think Obama has make his stand on continuing the debates, and pound the crap out of McCain and Palin if they boycott them. No suspension of democracy!!!!
September 25, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Strip Obama of the ball?
Really? What game are you watching. I'm watching the one where Obama has hustled the living fuck out of every opponent he's had.
September 25, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama returns from his European triumph. The very next day and for weeks following, American is talking about Obama as a Paris Hilton-class celebrity.
Obama has a triumphant acceptance speech in Denver. The very next day and for weeks following, American is agog and besotted with Sarah Palin.
Obama starts to recover some traction. Then suddenly American is talking about pigs and lipstick for two more weeks.
Palin is stiffing the press, Rick Davis is exposed as in the pocket of Freddie Mac, McCain looks like a fool on the economy, and is caught in another baldfaced lie, and Obama surges in the polls. The next day, America is talking about McCain suspending his campaign, going to D.C. to save the bailout, and daring Obama to continue his own campaign, with the intention of accusing him of putting the country second if he does.
That is what I call stripping the ball. I did not say the Obama doesn't recover it. I did not say that he won't recover it this time as well. The point is, however, that McPalin an keep this crap up all the way to election day. And I personally have seen nothing to suggest that the 10% or so of independents who will decide this election have a clue as to how they're being manipulated.
How many of those people are actually thinking today: What a great guy! What a maverick! And that Palin gal, she real plucky, by golly! Probably far more than any reasonable person would think possible. There's a deep well of stupidity out there, and the McPalin campaign has the Rovian pump to draw it up to the surface.
That's why my head is exploding.
September 25, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
What Americans? The media and the McLame Campaign?
blueskies, I think you are suffering from what a lot of comments board liberals suffer from - an overweening sense of your own brilliance in comparison to the vague and shifting idea of "Americans" in general. Unless you can give me something more concrete than "Americans were saying..." I am forced to tell you that your imagination is working overtime.
September 25, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
As to American susceptibility to Rovian razzle-dazzle, that is a matter of bleak historical record and I shouldn't have to strain myself to prove anything. Those kinds of tactics could not exist if there were not a quasi-somnolent, easily manipulated populace out there to use them on. Am I talking about all people? Of course not. But there's more than enough to work on, believe me. I don't think it's liberal hauteur to say that you can fool all of the people some of the time; that's a platitude in fact. Indeed, if you have a big enough budget, a sufficiently soulless cynicism, and a stable of advertising geniuses to sell your big lie, you can make some of the time seem more and more like all of the time. I think we could very well be only a decade or so away from being able to fool all of the people all of the time. And yes, it is damn scary.
However, fight on! Don't give up! And let's pray god that people do wake up to this trickery and reward it with a stinging rebuke at the polls.
September 25, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you really believe the McCainiacs stripped the ball from Obama with those pranks, explosion may be good for your head.
September 25, 2008 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you are onto something. And I think it has a lot to do with why democrats frequently lose national elections that we should win. We -- or at least our "base" constituencies -- are pretty much clueless about how great swaths of the country thinks.
September 25, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well McCain's clearly looking fwd to having his cake and eating it too :)
If the bailout passes, he helped it pass. It would not have seen the light of day without him.
If it does not pass, Obama has been lax in trusting Congress (I mean who thinks Congress can get anything done?!!) and McCain is still the last hero standing!
But I did like Obama saying a President has to multitask. Awesome :)
September 25, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought that comment was stupid and unbecoming. The kind of thing you expect on the blogosphere, but not out of a president's mouth in a time of crisis. He came across as a smart-alec snarky intellectual with that comment. The subtext was that "I'm the superior dude here because I can dance and chew gum at the same time." Well, right now this isn't really about HIM. It's about the economy and what the heck is to be done about it. When we need all hands on deck, Obama is touting his superior hands instead of lending a hand.
September 25, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
September 25, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The many faces of Sybil McCain.
Please contribute your favorite examples.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/sybil-mccain-last-week-the-fun.php
September 25, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wait just a goddamn minute - What 5 fundamental improvements? The ones Obama appended to your joint statment? You fucking thief!
September 25, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't blame him, he doesn't remember.
September 25, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought the same thing. But alas, his list is probably just the word "Surge" written in five different ways (bubble letters, cursive, etc.)
September 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I, Roy_Flagg00, am not A fire fighter.
Therefore, it would not make sense for me to call my boss and say:
"I can't come into work today because there is a huge fire in my neighborhood and I have to help put it out"
Then again, Dementia can really make people say and do funny things...
September 25, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cut and Run
Stay the Course
Cut and Run
Stay the Course
What should I do today?
September 25, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, your headline is misleading. I think the key wording is what you highlighted, "I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands," with "the plan on the table" referring to the Paulson plan as proposed. I think everyone knows that plan is dead in the water, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd are authoring a Democratic alternative, 98% of whose provisions have already been accepted by the White House. THAT is the plan that could be passed later today. So I agree that McCain is irrelevant to this debate, but what he said is technically correct.
September 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Intrade has Obama at 56.9 (+1.6) and McCain at 42.6 (-1.9).
September 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
And debates taking place at 70... last I checked.
September 25, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow - big reversal in that, in the last 5-6 days.
IIRC, they had McCain up 52.x, to Obama 47.x, less than a week ago.
September 25, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
SO he won;t say what the improvement are?
Why does he use the word "I" instead of "we" if this is not about him?
So is he going to Washington because all the Congresspeople in his own party don't/won't/can't put "Country First", only he does/will/can. That's is what he told us at the Convention, right?
McCain is running against Congress and his own party, but now he is going to lead them? Don't think this is going to work out so great for him.
September 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will bet anything you want to bet he means the 5 things Obama appended to that statement.
The sorry son of a bitch keeps stealing Obama's campaign!
September 25, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
He may not want the mortgage adjustments, but I'm with you on the other four. If he were truly interested in pushing the package along rather than posturing, he would have signed on to as many of the five as he agreed with, and those points would have been released as part of the joint statement.
September 25, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hence the term, "stripping the ball."
September 25, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well that's not how I read that phrase, Schmedley.
But you are free to read it that way - I don't care.
September 25, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"stripping the ball" = "stealing his thunder" = "eating his lunch"
Take your pick.
September 25, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand how anyone can think mcain could possibly help with the bailout bill: he hasn't been invovled, he's not on a committee that has anything to do with the discussions, he says he doesn't know much about the economy, and he doesn't have any friends among the republicans in washington; plus Barney Frank and Dodd both said his presence wouldn't be helpful.
September 25, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Republican Caucus actually WANTS McCain's involvement. They are ideologically opposed. Their leadership wants McCain to give them cover.
September 25, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guys. It's happened. Some pigs just went flying by my work window.
September 25, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! McShame is going to blow up everything, then come back and try to put together the pieces and claim he's our savior. Just the kind of country-first guy we need to lead our nation.
September 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I'm Dumb BillC and I can't see the world because my head is buried deep in my colon."
The more desperate your posts, the more obvious McCain is slipping slipping slipping!!!!!
Every post you produce is like Christmas, my birthday, Easter, and Halloween allllll wrapped up into one! YAYYYYYY
Keep Posting!
"Oilbama" hahahaha you STILL kill me with that!
September 25, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
When is McCain due back in D.C., and can lawmakers reach a compromise before he gets there?
September 25, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-and-bushs-kabuki-theatre-mccain.html
Thursday, September 25, 2008
McCain and Bush's Kabuki Theatre: McCain Contacts Bush To Set Up Meeting To Prop Up His "Suspension"
Now we know why McCain hired the Bush contingent.
It emerged in the White House briefing today that McCain called Bush and asked him to initiate a meeting today at 4 pm at the White House, putatively for him to "deal with" the crisis.
That is, McCain asked Bush to help him create an avoidant trifecta: To try ti\o lend some credence to McCain's desperate assertion that a suspension of his campaign is necessary, in effect avoiding a debate in which he would face critical questions about his stance on the economy; attempting to co opt the financial crisis thereby trying to put an end to his plummeting in the polls created by his flailing positions on the economy--perhaps best reflected by his statement days ago that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong"; and, while avoiding his own debate, also buying more time for Sarah Palin after her embarrassing photo op at the UN yesterday, by moving her debate forward as well.
Here's how it happened, according to Q and A at the WHB:
McCain emailed Bush asking for the 4 P.M. meeting. Now, one reasonably might ask, why is today such a necessity for McCain, if his interest is solely the national good?
Because it is before the debate. McCain hopes to stage a meeting at the White House, thereby, with Bush's cooperation, lending plausibility to his claim to need to suspend his campaign. Then, if Republicans, in their own electoral interest, can be persuaded to come to agreement after the meeting, and before the debate, he would claim--in an act of utter stage management--to have "resolved" the crisis. Thereby hoping to take the heat off on his past careening stances and sliding polls and staunch the bleeding on the polls--before the debate.
This is Kabuki Theatre masquerading as substance--no different than what we saw at the U.N. yesterday.
It is utterly stage managed, utterly cynical, and utterly unrelated to the substantive deliberation necessary to actually resolve these matters on the merits and for our nation's future, rather than for short-term and desperate political advantage.
These occurrences are equally important for what they indicate about McCain's governing style as they are for their impact upon democratic process: impulsive acts that rely on drama and theatrical posture rather than substantive reasoning and long-term deliberation; a strong willingness to sacrifice substantive reasoning, deliberative process, and even prior structures and agreements to immediate political need; an attempt to reach outcomes through last minute stage management rather than substantive argument.
These should create deep concern for anyone who wishes for a change in governmental process from the past eight years.
We have an economy, rather than a campaign, to rescue. Putting nation before politics means putting all attempts to resolve it before political attempts to co opt it--and to move towards one's commitments, rather than towards a more immediate and short-term salvation.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-and-bushs-kabuki-theatre-mccain.html
September 25, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink