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McCain Ad Promises "New Rules" For Wall Street -- Even Though He Long Advocated Deregulation

The McCain campaign has a new national cable campaign ad that ratchets up their duplicity, this time on financial regulations and the credit crisis:

"I'll meet this financial crisis head on," McCain says. "Reform Wall Street. New rules for fairness and honesty. I won't tolerate a system that puts you and your family at risk."

What's missing here, of course, is any discussion of McCain's record when it comes to regulation of Wall St -- with only a few exceptions, the only times he's favored new rules were when they were more lax than the old rules.

It's also worth noting where McCain was during the last major banking panic, the Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s: He was at the center of the Keating Five scandal, having given aid to a major banker who eventually went to prison for corporate malfeasance.


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He's also now condemning "golden parachutes" but sees no hypocrisy in employing Carly Fiorina as a spokeswoman.

Obama's ad this morning was pretty weak sauce. Here's to hoping he releases an ad soon that nails McCain and Gramm as deregulating morons.

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In McCain's defense he doesn't know what a "Golden Parachute" is. He thinks, incorrectly, it is the same as a "Golden Shower." He used to love the golden showers back when he was dating strippers. Nothin' beats the taste of a nice warm glass of...

Well, my friends, for five and a half years it was all he had to drink, cut the guy some slack.

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Or a warm bucket of... for Sarah Palin

His campaign is on record saying they'll lie.

I watched the ad with an open mind, infact, I watched it with a preconcieved notion it would be an effective ad. Let's face, most GOP ads may not be true but they work.

But I have to say, at the end when the voiceover says- "Experience and leadership at the time of crisis," and the McCain/Palin graphic emerged- I felt worried as a viewer. Like, do I really want to handle the economy during crisis?

I mean, do I really want these two to handle the economy during crisis?

McCain-Palin'08:
So many lies, so many lies, so many lies...

(A lyric from Thom Yorke's "Atoms for Peace")

While the ad is obviously bullshit, it does highlight that Obama needs to put out an ad asap saying what he'd do to fix the current crisis. Attacking McCain's "fundamentals" comment is all well and good, but he also needs to put fourth his solution.

You have a point here.

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What's missing here, of course, is any discussion of McCain's record when it comes to regulation of Wall St -- with only a few exceptions, the only times he's favored new rules were when they were more lax than the old rules.

What is also missing - hugely - is any kind of concrete plan. "I won't let them do this to you," is not a plan.

And YES, now is the time to bring up the Keating 5, Obama. It really is.

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...as opposed to the 12 step plan Obama's already laid out on what he intends to do...right...*cricket-chirp*...*cricket-chirp*...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBNsq

Obama's saw this coming since at least March. Now it's time for McCain to catch up, lie, and make it seem like he's had a plan all along.

When, actually, McCain's economic advisor was doing this:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

...and calling us whiners and delusional. Meanwhile, he profits off of our loss.

Read the f-ing speech.

It almost IS a 12-step plan. It's detailed, and shows awareness of the magnitude of the problem without resorting to bogosity or inappropriate pandering.

And then, just for an exercise in sanity, try reading Alexander Hamilton's First Report on the Treasury Department. (Why? Because this is a time of financial and political crisis that could be even more significant than what the early US faced. One that people like Obama have seen coming for two years).

Then ask yourself, which of the four candidates is capable of thinking on the level of the Founding Fathers?

Hint: Mr. 894 ain't. (and neither, sadly, is Phil Gramm).

Note that McCain's most recent two ads incorporated Obama slogans: first "change we need," now "enough is enough."

He's obviously doing it on purpose. Trying to poach language in order to muddy the waters further so folks have nothing left to choose from except "Who do I like better"...

Obama can go after this easily:

* McCain's experiance with the Keating 5

* McCain's leadership with Gramm as his key financial advisor helping create the financial crunch

* McCain's leadership with Carly as a key advisor taking a huge golden 'chute while cutting 15K jobs at HP

"That's not experiance and leadership we can believe in."

Frankly, they really need to roll out McCain's Green Screen "That's Not Change We Can Believe In" and use it constantly to hammer McCain with.

John

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Obama is already talking about McCain's association with Gramm. He needs to put that into a commercial. In fact, he should make a commercial all about Gramm, his "nayshun of whahhners" insult and end it by hanging Gramm around McCain's neck.
It took less than 10 years to see the results of Gramm's experiment in laissez faire.

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Good idea.

Byt the ad shouldn't focus only on "nation of whiners". Hammer Gramm down hard! This is the economic goto guy. He resigned, but McCain still needs to talk to him, over and over. His wife had a big role in the Enron debacle. He's like a bad penny that keeps turning up. "That's not reform you can believe in".

I read the entire speech McCain made today, and there is only ONE sentence that has ANYTHING EVEN CLOSELY RESEMBLING A SPECIFIC IDEA ........

"By law, it [his plan] will reduce the debt and risk that any bank can take on."

where's the beef?

Obama's speech, on the other hand, what a whole bunch of beef......

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Where's the beef?

Where's the pork?

Wait! I want my 9/11 Commission so that I can postpone thinking about Wall Street and the economy.

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How about a Blue Ribbon Commission! That'll fix the problem.

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Another thing that's missing: Obama's plan. I've seen McCain all over the place talking about this, but not Obama. McCain is compelling on this issue, speaking about the morality of Wall St. Run Amok, and frankly the meltdown pulls the "McCain the liar" narrative off the air.

Obama needs to get some time on TV, he needs to slam McCain as a liar who's lying about his past relationship with wallstreet.

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And of course he needs to explain why he'd be able to fix the situation.

Obama actually was on TV talking about his plan. I guess you missed it.

Do you watch Obama's speeches even a little bit? He covers exactly what you're talking about all the time.

Did this ad use ENOUGH as its theme...erm is Mccain getting all his campaign messages from Barack.Obama.com?

It's also worth noting where McCain was during the last major banking panic, the Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s: He was at the center of the Keating Five scandal, having given aid to a major banker who eventually went to prison for corporate malfeasance.

There are two chances that the corporate media will draw this connection:

1. Slim
2. Fat

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you forgot "no"...

That would have effed up my dichotomy. I'm a big fan of contrasting symmetry.

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Oh, the media will bring it up if enough Obama surrogates bring it up.

What we need is an Obama surrogate with Turrettes Syndrome (no, Biden doesn't qualify.) If there was a surrogate who could quickly bring up McCain's stance on deregualation then slip up and spurt out the words "blow job" the media would be sure to cover it.

I hear Terry McAuliffe is available.

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Nah, it has to be someone with a hint of credibility...

Maybe we can get Jon Lovitz to do his "Liar" character. Sure, it would be silly, but it would be more credible than T Mac.

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Nah, credibility is irrelevant to winning tube time.

Maybe if TMac wore a t-shirt saying Bear Stearns Ate My 401(k), jumped out of a high window, landed and broke his leg, that might get some air-play.

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It's not only that Obama doesn't have a plan, he has to drag around the members of his brain dead party who managed to accomplish nothing, not even making Republicans look bad, in this Congress.

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How did you expect them to make much difference with a 1 person majority and that person was Joe Lieberman?

It's really ridiculous to hold Congress to some impossible standard of behavior when the situation is that either Joe Lieberman is our swing vote, or Dick Cheney comes in and breaks the tie.


Phil Gramm? Anyone?

You know you love him and his de-regulating ways. Or not.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

"Years before Phil Gramm was a McCain campaign adviser and a lobbyist for a Swiss bank at the center of the housing credit crisis, he pulled a sly maneuver in the Senate that helped create today's subprime meltdown."

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Yeah, some kind of Phil Gramm attack would be good.  But I'd want to take your three-clause complex sentence and break it up into simple sentences.

BTW, I'd be inclined to hold off on K5 attacks for now.  Save that powder for a later volley.  There's plenty of other shit more closely tied to current events that can serve as powerful ammo right now.

Hmmm.  Any photos of Gramm, Dubya, and McSame floating around?

Del did you not see Obama's speech? He did explin what he would do and Mccain has said nothing but freaking air and platitudes. Obama doesnt need to be all over TV he needs to keep doing exactly what he is doing and has been for the past few days. Economy, economy and o yeh economy. To the poster that didnt like Obama's ad this orning I humbly disagree I thought it was right on point and when Mccain makes a comment that dumb you have to slam him and that is exactly what Obama did. Man am I missing something? This day has been godawful for Mccain. His campaign has been caught flat footed on the number 1 issue, his surrogates are all over the place and Mccain is scrambling to try grab at change, experience, reform, enough is enough...yeh that is campaign message discipline we can believe in. Yesterday the election started and right now only one candidate is on point and is not Mccain not even close.

Not sure if this was directed at me, but I am the only one I see who brought up the "fundamentals" ad. I never said I disliked it. I thought it was a great ad. But I think it needs a positive, pro-Obama counter. I know he laid out his plan in his speech today. All I'm saying is put it in an ad.

Wow troll infestation

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What's a Wow Troll?

Obama's speech had lots of specifics, and clearly and forcefully showed that he actually understands what is happening, tried to prevent it, and KNOWS how to fix it.

Chance the Gardener for President!

Is that you bob dole? What happened to there killer voice over lady?

Obama's been talking about this since, at least, March. Weren't you paying attention? Well, after yesterday you are now.

"In a major economic address at Cooper Union today, Senator Barack Obama called for immediate relief for homeowners hit by the housing crisis, modernization of our regulatory framework, and an additional $30 billion stimulus package to jumpstart the economy and help protect families from the economic slowdown. As confidence in our financial markets wanes and Americans struggle in the face of a mortgage crisis, Obama stressed the importance of pushing back on the special interests and honoring our obligation to one another—and that doing so is not just a matter of altruism but a matter of self-interest." March 27, 2008.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBNsq

Has anyone noticed that McCain's voice is a little weaker and flatter than usual in some recent appearances?

I don't want to be (excessively) ghoulish, but there's a subtle change that seems worthy of note to me. In the MSNBC clip from this morning, his posture was rather stiff, and his expression was flat. Like his voice in this ad . . . not exactly dripping with emotion.

Again, I don't want to gloat about age or ill health, which happen to us all. But I do wonder if something is up.

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The recurrence of melanoma is high, from what I understand, and that's the killer skin cancer.

Not that I wish anything on him at all, but yes, he seems more pale than I would have thought possible for a person to be, lately.

His health is not the central issue but these are the classic symptoms of a soul leaving the host body after having made an unholy bargain with the devil.

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Hmmm.  Haven't noticed.  McSame has seemed very flat to me throughout this campaign.

But I do notice a profound decline from what McSame used to be a few years ago.

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She's also in favor or outsourcing jobs and in favor of expanding of H-1B visa guest worker visas. Could we outsource her, please? Better yet, could Obama please make an ad based on her support of outsourcing and H-1B visas? It would sure make a better ad than the too-vague one he has out now about McCain's lies.

....if history is a guide, an Obama victory in November would lead to faster economic growth with less inequality, while a McCain victory would lead to slower economic growth with more inequality. Which part of the Obama menu don’t you like?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/business/31view.html

McCain seems really weary and less energetic. He looks and sounds like poo. I have NO DOUBT if he's elected he's going to be in poor health for his term. That means you-know-who's going to be in charge...shudder

Its not his health, its more his soul having left his body as a collateral for his deal with the devil to be POTUS. These are the symptoms of him realizing what he had done to himself and that is is too late.

SEPTEMBER 18, 2007: Barack Obama calls for more open, transparent Wall St.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/18/2007-09-18_barack_obama_calls_for_more_open_transpa-2.html

Wow. McCain is soooo insightful. Such a maverick. Nice of him to get on the Obama bandwagon almost one year to the date TOO LATE!!!!

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He used Obama's "enough is enough" line.

He is poaching Obama's ideas.

Expect to see Obama with an ad tomorrow on what he plans to do.

"Enough is enough" is not exclusive to Obama.

What is wrong here is he not speaking from a moral high ground to be of any consequence. After all the lies its not even remotely plausible when it comes out of his mouth.

One thing that's interesting is that on the stump McCain is condemning--and saying he will end--the "corruption and greed" of Wall Street. It's a really strange moralistic approach to the economic situation that does not sound very Reaganesque to me.

First, I think even Democrats agree that greed is the driving force in Wall Street and should be the driving force--its purpose is to help people make money. So "stopping the greed" on Wall Street is not only impossible and nonsensical but goes against the purpose of Wall Street.

The implication of "corruption" is that these entities were breaking the law. But, in fact, it looks like these failing banks and lenders and brokers were probably following the laws. The real problem is that McCain's buddies let them write their own laws and they wrote them to facilitate making as much money as possible as quickly as possible in as many ways as possible but not to guard against future events.

It's nice that he says "new rules for fairness and honesty." That sounds like he's proposing regulation. But is the problem really unfairness and dishonesty? And whose unfairness and dishonesty is it? Again, it's very moralistic language that it implies bad intention on the part of these mysterious "Wall Street" entities, whoever they are. But the real problem may well be that when you allow so many creative ways of manipulating non-existent money, with no safeguards, no correlation to reality, and no oversight, then responsible brokers, corporations, and banks MUST take advantage of those avenues to profit to remain competitive and do right by their shareholders.

The real corruption and dishonesty lies with the politicians who do the bidding of a few lobbyists to put these laws in place. It is the repsonsibility of Wall Street to maximize profit. It is the responsibility of politicians to consider the greater good. That is where the corruption and greed are really faults and if McCain wants to take that on, he need look no further than the folks on his bus.

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Very well said.  Not sound-bite material, but not much of the real world is.

i hope the obama campaign comes back and smacks him for this nonsense. please remind the world, just how gung-ho mccain was about deregulation until just about this morning.
right now mccain's comes across as the one "offering solutions" no matter how bullshit they are, Obama needs to really grab this issue and put out strong ads about what he's been doing and will do in the future with regard to this issue. the speech was great, but ads get more coverage.

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Here's what I would give anything to hear Obama say:

I'm going to resurrect the Anti-Trust Division of the Dept. of Justice and enforce what anti-trust laws that are left.


A big factor in what is wrong with our economy is that the anti-trust laws are apparently moribund. They were enacted after the Great Crash of '29 - for a reason.


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I'd love to hear that, too.  Maybe it wouldn't be an effective angle of attack (or maybe it would be), but the DoJ's castration of its anti-trust division is a disgrace.

BigO could paint himself as reaching across the aisle to the greatest trust-buster of all time, Republican Teddy Roosevelt.

Hmmm.  That was well before 1929.  Gotta admit my familiarity with the history of anti-trust isn't what it oughta be.

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The controls on banking and the stock market that Reagan began to peel back - most of those were put in place after the Crash.

What is the matter with Repugs that they don't remember Herbert Hoover?

It seems that their insane FDR hatred just blinded them totally.

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Too much money for their friends and backers to steal. They have forgotten the lessons of the past, so are bound to repeat the mistakes,

From:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/watching-palin.html

Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Watching Palin

I'm watching Palin speak right now in Vienna, Ohio.

She looks as if she is about to burst into tears.

The outcome of this election will be frightening if she and McCain are victorious.

She was placed in a position where she was unready for the tasks she was to engage in. This would be true regardless of gender.

Now, she is being buffeted by questions that she is unable to respond to, and she is wholly unready for this and cannot deal with the outcome or ramifications.

She is like a hurt young girl rather than a Vice Presidential candidate.

She looks as if her head will burst with anger and hate and hurt.

This is closer to the Palin we have heard of in Wasilla and as Governor.

Hutchinson and other candidates would not have responded in this way.

She is clearly not ready for the Presidential status she aspires to and cannot be let to have this position for the sake of the nation. This is not only valid and obviously true, but must be understood by anyone who cares about the future of this nation.

McCain is 72 and has had 4 treatments for cancer. Palin is not only unprepared, but likely to be overwhelmed by the provocations that regularly come to a President and cannot plausibly respond to issues in economic or any other area of substantive policy.

If we blindly stagger into this through the usual gathering at the trough of excitement, we will not only have a potential tragedy in the making, but a final aspect of America consuming itself through its fascination with novelty and short-term thinking in the face of an utterly unprepared holder of the nation's highest office.

Cite:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/watching-palin.html

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Listen to the stress in her voice when Charlie asks her what the Bush Doctrine is. It's so obvious it doesn't require electronic analysis.

Corruption!

This morning on every show McCain kept saying this was due to "Corruption". The implication being that some one some place broke the rules. If there are no Rules due to his buddy Mr. Gramm how can there be any corruption? Who exactly is he going to prosecute? And how?

What "Corruption" is he going to stop if we dont have any regulations?

When do we get to discuss the Keating 5?

I too was wondering when our younger or more amnesiac voters would get a taste of some vintage Keating? The time is ripe.

Graham was responsible for blocking all of the regs on CDOs way back in 1999.


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Note he's using headlines from SEPTEMBER 15, 2008 saying Wall Street needs more regulation!!! Gee, could that be why they put the quotes at an angle that makes the dates hard to read? Fucking unbelievable.

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