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Lieberman To Break Vow Not To Attack Obama Tonight

Breaking: Lieberman fibbed!

Tonight at the convention, Joe Lieberman will attack Obama -- even though he expressly promised not to do this last month.

In early August, Lieberman said this about his pending appearance at the GOP convention:

I assure you this, Tom: I'm not gonna to go to that convention -- the Republican convention -- and spend my time attacking Barack Obama. I'm gonna go there really talking about why I support John McCain and why I hope a lot of other independents and Democrats will do that.

Tonight, according to prepared remarks, Lieberman will say:

When others wanted to retreat in defeat from the field of battle, when Barack Obama was voting to cut off funding for our troops on the ground, John McCain had the courage to stand against the tide of public opinion and support the surge and because of that, today, our troops are at last beginning to come home, not in failure, but in honor!"

Late Update: I forgot to mention the best part: Lieberman, according to the advance text, will describe himself as a "Democrat" tonight, and of course, the willingness of a few media stragglers to grant this claim a shred of credibility is the sole reason he's speaking tonight.


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You can't spell Lieberman without "lie".

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rec'd

Those who didn't die that is.

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As my husband calls him: JUDAS!

He's a dishonest, small man. He didn't do the Dems any good as an attack dog in 2000. I'm doubting he'll pack much punch tonight.

http://pufferfish.typepad.com/

Oh, how much it hurts to be slapped silly with a wet noodle!

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Ronald Reagan never forgot who he was. But Republicans have forgotten he is dead.

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Actually, in his later days, Reagan did forget who he was.

I am sick of reading this shit. If Lieberman condemns Obama for his voting record on supporting the troops, Lieberman should read this article:

http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/9559

Let the Independent explain this.

how many times will thompson lick his lips? looking like a crackhead.

Wow I have never seen a less inspired and underwhelming Republican conference. Wow this is awful even the tribute to all the vets and medal of honor winner just seemed uninpsired. All this rally the base crap is nonsense look at all those empty seats. Where is the rabid base rushing to their Joan of Arc's call? The Republicans are still disciplinned and on message but its all a lousy veneer. Beneath the flags, silly signs, cowboy hats and absence of a certain Veep there is a severe lack of enthusiasm. Hell I bet Paul's convention blew the doors off this snorefest.

He has to go all in with McCain because he knows his political career s over if Obama/Biden win in November.

Matthews has said that Palin is sequestered away writing her convention speech. She'll probably lay the sympathy card, how she's a hockey mom just trying her hardest to make the world better for her kids and grand kids, and while she has made mistakes in the past she made them with good intentions and has learned from them.

Then McCain on Thursday is going to talk extensively about his POW experience.

Also on Thursday Obama will appear on The O'Reilly Factor.

The media can't talk to her because she is writing her speech and everyone accepts this? Two words: tire swing.

One word: Word!

Seriously? He's going on O'Reilly?! Ugh. That's annoying.

If he's a Democrat, then Palin is a member of the AIP. Only fair. Or, if we're being consistent: then Lieberman is an Independent since he changed his voter registration. Hobgoblin of little minds, etc.

What a treat it was tonight to hear Donna Brazile -- the DEMOCRATIC consultant who ran Al Gore's campaign, right? -- give a nice, positive "unity" spin to the theme of the Rethuglican convention. Is she auditioning for a slot on Faux News? With friends like these . ..

I seriously cannot watch....it's bad for my blood pressure. You all please let me know if anything notable happens.

You may as well hit the hay, this thing is a snoozer.

From the looks of the Xcel Center, lots of them couldn't bear to watch it either. There must be 5,000 empty seats, minimum.

Ya know, after Zell's "Ah want Buuuuuu-uush!" betrayal at the 2000 convention, Jimmy Carter tore the crazed curmudgeon a new asshole in a most blistering letter about loyalty. Really something.

If that masturbatory buffoon Traitor Joe has the temerity to call himself a Democrat up there, I hope someone will follow in Jimmy's footsteps but get some more air time. Including (thanks TPM) pointing out his gutter treachery on breaking his pledge of a month ago.

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I know just the right person -

Ooo - perfect - Bill Clinton.

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I can't do this - I can't stop laughing. "John McCain had the courage to stand against the tide..." LMAO...


They're all going to make some fucking excuse for his insanity. Hahahahahahahahaha!!

And yeah, John McCain fights for veterans by voting no on the new GI Bill - you lying little shit, Droopy. Hahahahahahaha~~

The Herbert Walker tribute was sickening, the Ray-Gun tribute was sickening. Now, Fred Thompson, of Law and Order Fame? LOL

God, this is gross. And W talked nothing of the war deaths, the suffering of his "fellow citizens" due to trashing the economy. I have not been able to watch Dub for at least five years, but I made myself watch tonight. He is as disgusting now as he always was. I hate these people.

Haven't heard "Ray-Gun" in a while. Thanks for the memory.

Hey another speaker ... still ... POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW ... everyone thought he was going to die, he didn't so he'll live for ever ... POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW.

Gaaaak.

If Mc Cains POW story is so compelling why didn't the Republicans nominate him in 2000?

Doesn't it bother Lieberman at all to hear all these folks say Palin is great because she's such a good Christian?? I mean, as a Jew? I know folks on here don't like Specter but I thought he looked a little uncomfortable having to spew the party line on Palin; at least he's not a complete idiot. And I've never considered him a total race traitor the way I now view Lieberman.

To that (and the choice of Palin) I say: put Florida in the dem column.

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Awesome!

I love it.

I wonder how Lieberman feels about this little nugget:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/her-church-spon.html

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“The Jewish community, in particular, has a difficult time understanding this reality,” he said.

That made me laugh out loud - they are relentlessly Orwellian. Every day is backwards days with these people.

The Jews get that very well indeed, I believe. It's the damn Xians who don't and won't get it -

and you thank the Apostle Paul for this mess, frankly.

Seriously. Could their attitude be any more patronizing?

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There goes Florida.

Apparently he forgot when Obama pulled him aside in the Senate during the primaries.

Time to grab an elbow.

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Was that not beautiful? The day after they finally call the primary and he strides right into Congress and backs Droopy into a corner - I thought then I'd died and gone to heaven and I'm beginning to become way more convinced of that than I was then, even.

This implosion is so complete that I'm wondering if I'm still in the same universe?

Did he just fucking say "Well, John's never sought an earmark." WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Sarah Palin sure liked her earmarks. I thought they were soulmates?

Lieberman is a filthy little back-stabbing wretch who is less a loyal American citizen than he is an Israeli lobbyist. Nobody likes a traitor, even those to whom he has sold himself out, and that includes even the lowest of the Republicans, who with their long experience recognize slime when they see it.

I can't believe you folks are watching. Sounds like they are going completely for identity politics. Davis said it's not about the issues today, so it shouldn't be surprising.

Plain's Jews for Jesus Problem

On Politico there is a story up about how Palin may become a drag on the GOP ticket with Jewish voters. The initial explanation is obvious: Palin's ultra social conservative views on issues such as abortion and creationism. What is more interesting, however, is the fact that in August Palin's church welcomed David Brickner, the founder of Jews for Jesus.

According to the article Palin was in attendance when Brickner described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

While I am afraid that bringing this issue to the forefront may reignite the Wright controversy, as a Jew I find Palin's association with this Church very troubling.

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O. MY. GOD!!!!!!


I am in another universe!

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Jews for Jesus? She really was involved?

O. MY. GOD!!!!!!!

TenaX, did you get my last response on the other thread?

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I did - sorry it took awhile to find this comment again - it's hell without the avatars. On the other hand, the page loads.

I hear ya.

:)

Well, I appreciate your personal feelings about this and I do understand. It also further characterizes her as an extremist nut. Since there are a number of those in the base, not all of them will be concerned, but what can you say about them? They want an extremist nut in the White House, fine, they're entitled to their delusional opinions.

On the bright side, I suppose this could hurt Gramps and Barbie in Florida a bit.

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Does the Republican party truly believe that kissing up to evangelicals will be enough to win the election?

Are there enuough evangelicals to offset the loss of Jewish voters, those who are turned off by evangelicals, and sane Republicans?

Or do they really just suck at math?

Here's all every Jew needs to know about Sarah Palin:

When she first ran for mayor of Wasilla, she defeated a three-term incumbent named John Stein.

Stein isn't Jewish -- he was raised a Lutheran -- but that didn't stop Palin from Jew-baiting. According to today's New York Times:

“Sarah comes in with all this ideological stuff, and I was like, ‘Whoa,’ ” said Mr. Stein, who lost the election. “But that got her elected: abortion, gun rights, term limits and the religious born-again thing. I’m not a churchgoing guy, and that was another issue: ‘We will have our first Christian mayor.’
(Emphasis added.)

This urgently needs to be spread across South Florida and everywhere else there is a significant Jewish community.

Also this, courtesy of Andrew Sullivan:

Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced [David] Brickner, [the founder of Jews for Jesus] on Aug. 17, according to a transcript of the sermon on the church’s website. “He’s a leader of Jews for Jesus, a ministry that is out on the leading edge in a pressing, demanding area of witnessing and evangelism,” Kroon said.

Brickner then explained that Jesus and his disciples were themselves Jewish.

“The Jewish community, in particular, has a difficult time understanding this reality,” he said.

I hope Harry Reid is watching and cuts Joe's balls off on the Hill...

...well I guess you can't cut what aint...

Harry Reid is a spineless worm. Lieberman is throwing some money to down ticket Democrats, so in Reid's mind he's a-ok.

Man, we need some house cleaning...

Its all about denying reality vs dealing with it. Pass it on.

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Yeah it is.

That's exactly what it is. And we still have people ostensibly on our side advocating denying reality.

But you have got it just right.

And reality is what it is, too. - I know - it's obvious, but not to some people, apparently.

CT resident here. I will sign on to whatever efforts exist to punish Lieberman for his spineless hypocrisy.

"Gramps and Barbie" has a good ring to it, you know? Kind of punchy and sort of captures it all in four enjoyable syllables...

Now all we need is a catchy theme song!

Wow, this is just too hard to watch. I tried, I really did. But now Lieberman's on... Stomach turning... Blood pressure rising... Abort! Abort!

Oh, now the Repubs are against partisanship when they're down the barrel of being a huge minority.

Lieberman's speaki....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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They sure have a lot of old guys.

Old WHITE guys

In crappy moods.

Like my wife just said, at the DNC even the old folks were dancing and cheering and crying. It's like the Summer of Love vs. "Night Of The Living Dead".

I like that lieberman is calling McCain "the original maverick." Given McCain's fossiliferous nature, the claim just might be true.

John McCain: He puts the crotch in crotchety.

I see a lot of LOLs on here, but you really got me with those cracks. LOL!

That may be my favorite line in quite some time

I can't believe I ever voted for a ticket with this creep on it.

I can't believe I once had respect for McCain.

So did Lieberman get cheers from the audience? Do they not care that his PAC is giving money to down ticket Dems? hat he votes with Dems on virtually every issue except the war in the Senate?

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Which is why Harry Reid "gutless worm" hasn't kicked his ass yet.

D'oh.

I see the traitorous wretch now on the BBC...

And now he's attacking Obama. What a fucking buffoon.

I experienced Donna Brazile's response differently. I thought it was a terrific display of grace and patriotism. Wolf Blitzer seemed to be looking to her to criticize the Republicans' use of images of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King in their opening video. She declined to be used in that way and, instead, claimed the high ground for both herself and for Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King. Who would have thought that they might be characterized as "unifying figures" for a Republican Convention? I say, "Well done, Donna."

zzzzzzzzz (wipping the side of my face).

He's got them clapping for Bill Clinton. Have to admit pretty funny.

luke, meet warm.

I know, the shot of the people I saw they had this look on their face of "i can't believe I'm doing this. and who is this guy anyways?"

ordered prime rib, got a liebermeal instead. too bad.

To put it in perspective this time last week Hillary was giving the speech of her life...

Lieber-who?

And to think that last week the nation got to watch Hillary knock one out the ballpark (she now has her highest approval rating ever).

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It was a stunning speech - the whole week was stunning and I don't say that lightly about a damn political convention.

Once I got rid of the talking heads I found myself at a really exciting convention, for the most part. There were a few snoozes, but nothing jarring or meaningless, either.

Joe Lieberman, who voted to impeach Clinton, just praised the achievements of the Clinton administration and got an applause. At the Republican National Convention.

Is this opposite day? Should I be wearing my pants on my head?

The delegates were probably told to cheer Clinton mentions to try and appeal to the Hillary Clinton hold-outs watching at home. The audience of course plays off of the delegates on the floor.

Whitey: Hilarious.

i dunno. there's a lot of clenched jaws and beady eyes in that crowd. not quite a zell moment. more like that ol' joe magic.

Can this frame of McCain "shaking up Washington" possibly work? That ad about him voting with Bush 90% of the time needs to be run over and over and over and...

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What's truly pathetic here is that McCain apparently wanted Joe on the ticket but he caved to the Christian loonies. What is it you don't get about that Joe?

The right won't have any say about his cabinet. Joe will get whatever gig he wants there.

Lieberman To Break Vow Not To Attack Obama Tonight...Are we really surprised Lieberman lied?

Can someone explain to me exactly why we can't kick this clown out of the caucus?

This isn't a rhetorical question. I just don't get it...

I knew when he said he wouldn't attack Obama he was a liar. He's done everything he can think of to undermine Obama right along. I wonder what lies beneath his contempt.

the conventioneers look, by and large, cadaverous. And both Leiberman and Thompson cleared their throats constantly like they were chocking on thier own bile.


somehow Im not sold.

Are tine infotainment talking heads gushing over every word? I wouldn't expect any less.

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What in the world was that? It's not just my bias, is it? These speeches are laaaame.

On another note, that's two speakers that only show their bottom teeth when they talk.

Oh, now Lieberman's going to praise Klondike Barbie. She's a "reformer" "A leader we can count on to help John shake up Washington." The two will fight for "you, the American people." Now he's going into the terrorist riff... Another shot at Obama, voted against the troops.

Iraq it seems is a glorious victory for our country...

Now he wants to address Dems and Indies, Maybe we're not sure to vote for McCain. So important to vote for McCain, for Republicans. Because these are not ordinary times. So vital to vote for Republicans. Asks Dems of all stripes, vote for the person not just some party you happen to belong to.

You wanna punch the screen, you know?

BBC buying line that Traitor Joe is a Dem. All bubbly now about TJ "opening the door" for Dems to make that wonderful choice.

He wants to be SoD in McCain's administration.

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Faint praise for someone a heartbeat away from the presidency. Notice Lieberman couldn't bring himself she would be a competent president if called upon by circumstances. He only mentioned her role as that of helping McCain "reform" Washington.

You are very right about that. He said he wanted to talk about Palin, and then he didn't. It was Bob Hope stuff: "How about that Sarah Palin? I wanna tell ya!"

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We can in the new Congress because he won't be our 51st vote anymore.

God, people - can y'all not count? He voted with us 90% of the time, still - we needed him.

Harry's hands were tied. I'm not a great huge fan of Harry's, but he hardly had the optimal situation - Droopy as our swing vote - or Cheney comes in and breaks the tie????!!!!!!!!!

Exactly

He knows come 2009 he will be caucusing with the Repubs. And come his next election, he'll be toast. His only hope for relevancy is to get a post in a McCain administration.

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Yep.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahah!

And I wonder if Barbie *even knows* she would preside over the Senate in such a situation. Seriously..."like, ohmigod, what DOES the VP do?

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A closing prayer? Really?

Dems did that every night as well.

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They did? Hunh. Immediately following the only practicing orthodox Jew in congress, wonder if it was a generic prayer or specifically Christian.

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If one Googles:

Lieberman asshole

it generates over 137,000 hits.

Inquiry: Was I the only person to hear Lieberman say that he craves to suckle at McCain's lactating man-boobs?

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I don't know, were you the only person to hear Lieberman say that he craves to suckle at McCain's lactating man-boobs?

Did I hear someone else say that they heard Lieberman say that he craves to suckle at McCain's lactating man-boobs?

LOL!

It will be interesting to see if the MSM or the Jewish press picks up the Jews for Jesus thread?

The truth is that it doesn't need to become a national story for this to hurt McCain. All that is needed is that the Jewish electorate in Florida and Ohio learn about this.

Still, on a personal level I'd love to hear Plain have to respond to whether she agrees with the mission of Jews for Jesus and/or if she she agrees that terrorism against Israelis is divine punishment.

I'd like to hear her respond to anything at this point...

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Joe Liarman

Underwhelming to say the least. Empty seats and delegates who looked like they were ready for a nap. Not the best stagecraft I have ever seen, either. Bush was on via satellite and had no idea when people were applauding and drowning him out. And could they try and squeeze one or two people of color into the frame now and then?

I was nervous, and hate listening to this stuff. But wow, they have barely even fired up their crowd.

And CNN is picking up the story of heavy handed tactics by the police in St. Paul, tear gassing protesters for being near the perimeter of the Excel Center. Showing video now. AWESOME. AWESOME stuff.

Meanwhile, Ron Paul's "counter convention" drew (at least)as many people as the GOP event and they were really fired up. That doesn't bode well for red-state tickets.

BBC gleefully replaying Traitor Joe. Will no one rid us of this turbulent priest? Is there not a Dem out there who will say this is shameful?

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TDS is so funny - The Republicans: Give us One More Chance, This Time We Won't Fuck it up!

LOL

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Republicans: We're for change and competence too. Really!!!

They're trying to re-establish the Maverick line. time to break out the big guns - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U5KZzgaB2k

It's 23 seconds long, all that Barack would need to add is the "I'm Barack Obama and I approve of this message" fade to black.

Klondike Barbie needs another bad press day tomorrow to help her prepare for what the talking heads are calling her "big moment." She is a professional telecaster so it should be a cakewalk for her. Expect a lot of gushing goons to be talking about how all the criticism just melted away when they saw what a great "leader" she is.

I too think she's going to do really well. She's a much better speech giver than McCain. I assume it will be more of an autobiographical speech, it will be interesting to see if she attacks.

She's a telecaster and a pageant queen. She'll do well. And there will be a lot of horseshit thrown about on how exciting and historic it is and how she really redeemed herself.

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A pageant queen?

How much would it rock if she started yammering about maps?

Re: Klondike Barbie.

Hee ha! I've heard of Caribou Barbie, Klondike is better.

Sorry folks, i have decided not to watch the Republican convention because i can't stand their lies

Five-car collision....table for one....

Did you see all those empty seats? You'd think that with an exciting triple bill of Joe Lieberman, Dubya and Grandpa Fred, they'd at least fill up the lower deck. It looked like an effing Minnesota T-wolves game, after they traded KG.

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Well, I watched Jon Stewart instead. He had a very funny piece on the RNC. He was interviewing folks at the convention site like they were stranded victims at the arena due to the storm. Don't miss it.

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Here comes Colbert on Palin - o boy -

Re: Josh's headline on the front page: "Is the RNC blue screen an homage to the McCain green screen speech?"

LOL, a beaut!

Lieberman is revolting, but above all he conveys a profoundly depressing world-weariness. Time for him to go. He has less sizzle than Strom Thurmond in his final years.

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You know, except for Sarah, there just is no sizzle in the Repug Party -

Lieberman must be stripped of committee chairmanships, and booted from the Democratic caucus.

Then for excessive use of the term "my friends" he must be put in the stocks and pelted with rancid mooseburgers.

I will throw a party once this RAT is thrown out of the caucus.

Sorry if I'm repeating anything from upthread...but did LIEberman actually say "God only made one John McCain"? Does he realize both John McCain's elite admiral father and grandfather were also "John McCain"?

Listen, I want Joe Lieberman out of the caucus as much as the next guy, but the Republicans will actively defend him, especially after tonight. They'll disparage the democrats for speaking the truth and Lieberman will be made a martyr. It's best until after the election

"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight." -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Yeah, I meant after the election upthread. Should've been more clear...

fucking snake.

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Sorry if I'm repeating anything from upthread...but did LIEberman actually say "God only made one John McCain"? Does he realize both John McCain's elite admiral father and grandfather were also "John McCain"?

Joe is so out of touch of reality, it's difficult to quantify how much he's unaware of.

What a slime-ball!

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