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Harry Reid: The Debate Must Go On

Harry Reid becomes the first outside pol to issue a statement on McCain's call for a suspension of the campaign and the debate, issuing a statement saying, in effect, thanks but no thanks:

"This is a critical time for our country. While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the Administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis.

"I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Senator Obama's suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation's economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op.

"If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now."

In a certain sense, of course, McCain's unilateral suspension of the campaign actually politicizes the whole process more, not less.


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i like that...

The last line makes it seem likely that Obama will suggest changing the debate topic to the economy.

I've never been a bigger fan of Harry Reid. Spot on!

Another day, another McCain gimmick. McCain has already admitted that he doesn't know much about economics, so what wisdom could he possibly have to offer on the bailout issue. In one breath McCain is saying "lets put politics aside", while his surrogates are on television pushing the talking point of "country first".

More cynical bs. McCain is trying once again to change the topic now that he finds that he and Palin are sinking in the polls.

Let's get on with the debates!

"injecting politics into the process" is how Obama needs to frame it. I'm sure Reid and Obama are in connection, so it's likely that Obama will say something very similiar.

I hope his surrogates can help with the framing by listing all of the things McCain is trying to push off of the table:

1) polls already released today
2) Rick Davis
3) Palin's interview with Couric, in which she expresses support for the bailout
4) polls still to come today

Well done, Mr. Reid!

If McCain can't think under pressure, why is he running for president? If he needs to cancel the debate, he should probably also cancel his campaign.

Amen.

we held presidential elections during the Civil War and WWII.
McSame calls this another 9/11?
So what was he doing the last few days?
Chicken McCain's afraid of getting his ass kicked on Friday, that's all.

Obama should call it exactly what it is - political grandstanding. He has all the proof he needs, he called McCain behind the scenes this morning and the two camps were then again in contact at 2:30pm and if McCain wanted to make a truly bipartisan gesture he could have relayed his "suspension of campaigning and delaying debate" thoughts then and maybe had a discussion on the matter behind closed doors. However by publicly making the call it's nothing more than a glaringly obvious attempt to play politics with this economic crisis.

Harry gets a gold star with oak leaf cluster for common sense above and beyond the call of duty.

McCain gets ann old sour pickle and a chair in the corner.

Ladies and Gentlemen, as we've known for months now - Barack Obama is not John Kerry or Michael Dukakis..

Yes, and thank the gods and goddesses! I have to admit that when this story first broke this afternoon, I was stricken by visions of those earlier Dem candidates dithering and deferring to the blustering Republicans. What a blessed relief. I guess I've lived through so many years of successful Repub intimidation that I'm psychologically traumatized. Maybe a few consecutive terms of Dems in the White House will cure that.

Why is the Clinton Global Initiative more important than the first Presidential Debate?

Very good point.

BRILLIANT point -- this needs repeating!

Obama absolutely MUST state that during times of war and crises, presidential debates have continued. We're adults, we can multitask for a couple of hours.


This is such an obvious ploy from McCain to grab the headlines and change the trajectory away from Obama. All it does is show that McCain is willing to politicize even this crisis to make himself look good, which he doesn't. I find it a really offensive scheme.

I like the idea of changing the debate topic to the economy. I'm sure McCain would love that. Maybe Palin can pinch hit for him.

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"We need leadership; not a campaign photo op"

Zing!

Again: McCain's decision makes him appear as if he can't handle more than one crisis at a time. This is not presidential, if you ask me.

Good one. That ad could write itself.

Reid's statement reflects my thoughts over this clusterfuck we're witnessing here. Let's see what Obama will say and do, but that debate should take place and the issue should be shifted to the economy. That debate has been negotiated and agreed for a long time now, McCain can't just say "let's call it off" without reason.

And, of course, this backstabbing can't go unpunished!

I like this response a lot. Obama should echo a lot of it.

What McGoo is doing is the equivalent of flipping over the chess board two moves before you get mated.

Great CNN polls for Obama.

+4 in Colorado
+9 in PA
+5 in Mich

Mccain is trying to call a "time out" to steal Obama's mo it is that simple.

and from the polls at the top of the page: +2 in NV and +9 CO.

McCain's campaign was tanking and fast.

I don't think McCorpse's "suspension" will alter the trajectory either.

Lovely. Very nice.

What a mess!

This whole gambit could backfire on McCain if, when the dust settles, the debate actually goes on.

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It's going on. Ole Miss just released a statement to that effect.

McCain isn't going to look presidential. He's going to look like he's panicking, like he can't handle more than one crisis at a time, and he's going to look ineffectual, because the debate will take place.

And I'm not sure that the topic WILL be changed. Both campaigns, and Jim Lehrer, have been prepping for a foreign policy debate. Lehrer has his questions all set. I'm not sure how feasible it is to switch at this late date. I'm really not.

This thought just occurred to me. What if this plot goes deeper than we realize. Look at it this way: The Fed makes a ridiculous power-grab attempt much like the Administration did after 911. Lets face facts, as evil as the underlying administration is, they are equally smart. They would have realized that the bail-out wouldn't pass, they asked for too much, thinking "if it passes even better", but when it doesn't, have McCain ride into Washington as the White Knight who saves the day - he comes in, polarizes the issue so that instead of a real solution we get something close to what the Fed asked for, with some meager oversight and almost nothing in it for tax-payers. This would be spun into Mccain as the Hero of the working man and the one who took action to save the economy - which NeoCons could (potentially) ride into the white house, and then enjoy even further reaching power and even less need for congress (the Executive branch would have it's own pocketbook). Or maybe that is way to far-fetched to have any ring of truth. Just a thought.

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A perfect blast from Reid!

The only suggestion for improvement would be for him to slightly re-work it and get a Shelby or another Republican leader in the Senate to sign on, as a JOINT STATEMENT!

Mccain and Bush are trying to force this through to look like the action men. This is a huge mistake and playing right into Obama's hands. He remains calm and poised while yet again see his aging opponent over react.

Insert blade and twist.

Barney Frank: "It's the longest 'Hail Mary' in the history of either football or Marys."

Sweet. The Dems aren't backing down. Spinning it as the stunt that it is. They do have a backbone.

I think that Obama will have to magnanimously agree to postpone the debate, but only after it is made clear that his own offer of a joint communiqué should have been sufficient and that there is no real reason to postponed.

Obama's play here should be to say no to McCain and that McCain's plan would only serve to politicize the debate. He needs to stand firm against McCain's political gimmickry. All surrogates should call it gimmickry and manipulation for political ends. It would be a huge mistake for Obama to give in to this and look like a wuss and that he was being manipulated by Country Club First McCain. Huge mistake!!

Overlooked is the fact that independent groups and the RNC will still be running around shouting "Rezko" and "scary preacher" even while McCain lays down his sword with great ceremony.

Exactly, and I mentioned this in a post below. The 527s aren't going to honor any such "cease fire."


From:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-trailing-in-polls-continues.html

Wednesday, September 24, 2008

McCain, Trailing in Polls, Continues Campaign By "Suspending" It

John McCain, trailing by 9 points in national polls, has announced that he is "suspending" his campaign.

Having lost significant ground to Obama on the issue of the economy, and facing a potentially defining and withering debate on Friday where he would be confronted on his statements on the economy that have led to this sharp decline, McCain has attempted to change the rules of the game, to erase many past errors through a putatively "unpolitical" move--something we have seen before.

A simple question: Under the same economic conditions, if McCain had been leading, does anyone believe that McCain would have "suspended" his campaign?

This is the ultimate in cynicism--using the current conditions in order to attempt to blunt a sharp decline and try to control the media dialogue, through a political act designed to avoid a potential political debacle. He is continuing his campaign--which was leading to loss in all directions--by "suspending" it. It is an attempt to silence media criticism and questions--and to prevent a debate on these issues that for him is sharply unfavorable.

McCain is attempting to avoid the debate in the face of this decline, through the type of evasion and lack of press access and communication that has characterized his campaign. It shows an extraordinary willingness to use difficult conditions to erase and avoid political errors, and serve political needs.

He surely would like to put off the debate, and attempt to create more favorable conditions for it. Don't be cowed.

Cite:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-trailing-in-polls-continues.html

Great response from Reid. Putting country first mean making deals with Democrats, not trying to ambush them with pseudo-patriotic PR stunts.

D'oh! . . . postpone

McCain just received his 3 AM phone call, and decided to put it on hold.

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If only obama had agreed to the town hall meetings, mcWar could have run away from them, too.

This has been a pattern with McCain. He wants to give the appearance of taking the whippersnapper Barack under his wing and walking him through the campaign on his (McCain's) terms.

First, McCain wanted to dictate Obama's campaign schedule by demanding a series of "town hall" joint appearances. Barack said no thanks.

Next, McCain wanted to take Obama by the arm and lead him around Baghdad to show him how great the surge had worked. Barack passed on the escort and went with Hagel and Reed instead.

Now John wants to use the big financial crisis as an excuse to back out of the first debate, but wants to disguise it as a country-first bipartisan gesture by dragging Barack to the big economic summit.

Thanks but no thanks.

John is gonna look mighty silly standing in the hall in DC while the bailout is thrashed out without his help. Meanwhile, Barack is on stage at Ole Miss ready to do what he said he'd do: talk about US foreign policy (or economics or whatever).

Maybe McCain can send Palin to the debate in his place: "hey, ya know, this economy stuff is bad. . too much Wall Street greed and not enough reform. . . Let's put the bad loans on ebay. . .

Harry Reid... does anyone really care what he has to say. My point is this we will have cell phone records to decide who called whom... If I remember, wasn't Obama on a stage in Dunedin, Florida , when he was supposed to be calling John McCain... Good thing cell phone records are easy to get because whomever is lying will be snuffed out in a nanosecond... Barack should be glad, he does terrible in debates anyway. McCain has done him a favor.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Thanks for the laugh.

McCain's camp doesn't contest that Obama called first. Why are you?

They say that Obama's camp didn't reach McCain and they said nothing about the topic, but that McCain called later in the day for something bipartisan and then did it unilaterally anyway.

I'm not so sure about a mama, but you sure are a big something.

Look kids! A new troll, freshly minted just in time for today's discussion.

It even has that new troll smell!


McCain could just not show up for the debate this Friday. What then?

It is so obvious that McCan't is trying to get out of the debate. I hope everyone can see that...how unpresidential. You can't bring everything to a stop every time there is a crisis. I'm an American worker and even if all hell breaks out around here I'm expected to deliver! I would hope that someone applying for the top job in this nation can juggle his campaign, a national crisis, AND that includes showing up for a debate.

If this gets called out for the bullshit it is by the MSM (and I'm not holding my breath), McTimeout is extra-crispy T.O.A.S.T.

My (purely subjective) take from perusing the USA Today's comment section is that the vast majority see McCain's attempt to delay the debate as a chicken-shit ploy.

Am I just deluded in thinking that the American people are finally casting off the shackles of fear and ignorance of the past several years?

Remember we are dealing with real evilnicks in the McCain campaign. This is a set up.

The cleverness is that there will be no debate in any event. If Obama wants it, McCain just won's show up saying the economy is more important.

McCain can demonize Obama as not caring about the economy if he stays away from DC; or, if he goes he can say he is only going because McCain's leadership forced him to do it.

The best part is the discussion goes away from the economy and other issues onto a side issue. We've already heard "Obama would rather lose the war than lose the election." We'll now see "Obama would rather lose the economy than lose an election." Sadly, Obama's been out foxed.

Doubtful. It's a full week after the time of greatest peril in the markets, but suddenly it's a campaign-halting emergency?

Most people will see this as: Uncle Ziggy on the Zigzag Express strikes again!

Nah. You watch. McCain will get his beak blasted to the backside of his head just like Daffy Duck's.

KABOOM!

I christen thee

OLD YELLOW STAIN

For the sake of the economy, I'm postponing my blog comments.

I would say McEmpty is the one who is out foxed. He is in a panic, and should be. That's why he is stalling, or trying to. Obama has smarts and given the way the polls are looking, a debate might actually be real fun for him.

You people should listen to yourselves and be proud for the demonstrations at the RNC and the doctored photos of John McCain and the hacked e-mails of Sarah Palins....... Really nice party you all have attached yourselves too. Your like a bunch of vultures..... Obama is not worthy of my vote and will not be getting it..... He is a common thief and a racist.... Not even worth one vote.... Hey he can go to the debate himself and then he would win... Yeah

Did I forget to mention that is is the Dems that have had their hands out the deepest to fannie and freddie... Barack is in good company he was only a Senator for about 16 months before going on the road and he is already number 2 in campaign handouts..... Proud moment I bet

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