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GOP Convention Audience Cheers For ... Hillary
This was a nightmarish image we'd anticipated, and it happened: The GOP convention crowd, which is made up of people who have spent much of their adult lives in the grip of profound Hillary hatred, suddenly were able to reach deep inside themselves and find the magnanimity to cheer for her.
The moment came, as expected, with the evocation of Hillary's criticism of Obama during the primary. Rudy Giuliani, the speaker, said:
Tough times require strong leadership, and this is no time for on the job training.It's about who can answer that crisis call at 3:00 in the morning -- yes, Hillary!
The crowd roared for what seemed like a solid half-minute.
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This is surreal, and I'm not even watching it.
They roared for Hillary?
September 3, 2008 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
indeed
September 3, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, how can you say it's surreal, given the kind of campaign she ran during the Primaries (Wallce '68 redux)?
There was a time when Sen. Clinton might have been more of a bete noir to the right, but her excessive pandering to so-called Reagan Democrats this spring (the "hard working White Americans" bit) could naturally have won her a few hearts in Republican ranks.
September 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any way it goes ... that's SURREAL! Karl Rove's republicans cheering Hillary. The Palin nomination was almost worth it just for that.
Now, let's see if the heads deconstruct her nonsense.
September 3, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy is making me want to throw up. I know that we should "know thy enemy", but watching/listening to the RNC is tough to stomach. I'm just waiting to see Sarah in action.....
September 3, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy condems dems for not referring to 9/11 enough during the convention in Denver.
How many times is enough?
September 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not true at all, they did NOT cheer for Hillary, they cheered for the mockery of Hillary.
Giuliani said about the 3AM thing, that it was "ONE thing they could agree with Hillary on."
It was a mockery of her and the crowd cheered on. It was in NO way a compliment to her Greg, maybe you should rewind.
First thing I thought was, "well there goes trying to appeal to Hillary voters!"
September 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
That makes a little more sense. Thx.
But still, this just sounds like a surreal night.
I'd dearly love to know how independent voters, who haven't been deep in the weeds of campaign trivia, feel about tonight.
September 3, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
no, it was def cheering for Hillary -- because of her criticism of obama, and because the gop is reaching out to hillary voters.
September 3, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
No it absolutely was NOT.
They cheered when he dissed her saying that there was only ONE thing they agreed with her on.
How is that a cheer for her?
It was all about the 3AM.
September 3, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I"m sorry Greg - this is like when I came home from work in Colorado and found a bear had gotten into my house and trashed it - my brain has frozen and will not accept this data.
The server has overloaded.
September 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't watch it, but hopefully Hillary will get out there and shut these people up. If I were her I would be so annoyed Palin is touting her image and using her lines, what shit.
September 3, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. Where IS Hillary??
If I were her, I'd be raging at Palin and getting territorial on TV right now. Snowmobile Barbie can step the hell down.
I'd actually love to see a debate between Hillary and the so-called 'pitbull with lipstick' hockey mom. Palin would get owned.
September 3, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed and thank you for bringing it up. Next week, she needs to be out there in force and given Bill's speech last week, he does too.
Trying to be an educated voter, I watched tonite, but I have to tell you that the Mylanta is flowing right now.
September 3, 2008 11:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Rudy I think maybe a few folks did ask how much time you spent with YOUR children.
September 3, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't watch it. I cannot believe that after eight years of Captain Shit for Brains these jerk offs still have a chance. It's a cosmic joke. Unfortunately, the joke's on us.
September 3, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would love it if Rudy's showboating overshadowed Palin. Imagine the headlines... "Palin meets expectations, but Guiliani brings down the house." Followed by choice excerpts like "when the Democrats gave up on Iraq they gave up on America."
September 3, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe the delegates on the floor have been instructed to cheer for any mention of Hillary. We know from campaign rallies that the line isn't working when Palin uses it - I think the delegates know it's coming and cheer their lungs out, and the drones in the audience follow their cue.
September 3, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonze I believe you are exactly right about this. Very good observation.
September 3, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right Olbermann read out on air last night that the floor are told when to cheer and for how long.
I thought the Democratic convention was OTT, but this superficial bullsh*t doesn't even compare.
Been thinking, I'm not worried about Palin per se, but I am a little worried about the American people -- will they use their brains [this time] when watching this? Republicans provide absolutely no substance -- all bluff and bluster. It seemed to work in 2000 and 2004, as far too many people were fooled -- will they make the same mistake again? I hope not.
What gives me some hope is when Hillary pulled a republican Palin regarding the irrational gas tax lie -- Obama made people think it through, so Hillary was made to look stupid, not the American people. I hope he can do it again.
September 4, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I find Rudy one of the most vile, evil, disgusting men in the world. I have a severe visceral reaction whenever I see or hear him. He is simply a slimey, low shitbag. I couldn't last more than 30 seconds watching that asshole.
September 3, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
how dare you speak so ill of a man that knowingly marries his own cousin?
September 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS! FOR HILLARY!! AND MCCAIN!!!
!!!JohnSidneyMcmanymansionmentum™!!!!
September 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, everybody!
Who hates that fucking Media Matters ad!?!?
It always drops down when I try and use the top navigation!
September 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I loathe it.
I haven't said anything cranky about it, given the problems that TPM has been having, and the volume of complaints about said problems, but that ad is truly and deeply annoying.
It's the Rudy Giuliani of ads, in fact.
September 3, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
ME! O god, I could kill whoever invented those things to start with and Goddamn Media Matters for buying one.
September 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're using Firefox, try installing the "flashblock" plug-in. It lets flash stuff come through, but only if you click on it.
I hate moving, jumping, visually screaming LOOK AT ME! content. Feh.
Just try googling for flashblock
September 3, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
How come the cameras keep showing the handful of african-Americans that are at the rep. convention?
They certainly aren't representative. It's so funny. I can hear the director screaming: "Cut to the black guy, cut to the black guy." Pathetic
September 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC pretty much focused on black women exclusively, when Michelle was giving her message. A subtle way of saying that her "real audience" is blacks.
As far as I was able to tell, they didn't show any white men during her speech.
September 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was during Michelle's speech.
I'm talking about during every speech at the rep. convention.
September 3, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I realize that. My point was about how the media manipulate and write the story, through their camera shots, in addition to talking points.
September 3, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear Hear
September 3, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
This was for hyperRevue and that damn Media Matters ad.
September 3, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
ad sucks
September 3, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin sounds like Tracy Flick from Election right now.
September 3, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
O goody - that was what I hoped for!
September 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup
September 3, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the ad is great, and is supremely qualified to be the next Vice President of the United States.
September 3, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rudy hogs the spotlight, takes up way too much time onstage, so the republicans have to skip the video introducing Sarah Palin. It's all about Rudy. It's him before the republican party. What a gasbag.
September 3, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's with the vacation slide shows in the background?
September 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seen her other stump speeches, and first impression: s/w deer in the headlights and coming across as taling from a written speel.
September 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
is the Super Palin winning you folks over yet?
September 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah is exploiting her family and that is not FAMILY VALUES
September 3, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her kids don't exactly look thrilled.
September 3, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope but her husband is lovin it.
September 3, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well the 3AM ad was originally an ad against Obama, so its no surprise that a Republican audience would cheer the remarks.
September 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's hard to watch--but it's all cognitive dissonance. If they truly believe the shit they blather, they are lost souls for whom reality is a vague and fleeting chimera. They live in a fantasy world of make-believe strawmen. I can truly see McCain dropping dead after a month and Palin inheriting the Oval office. If that happens just roll out the barrels of kool-aid laced with cyanide.
September 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I felt like I was watching a Bund Rally. Pathetic and frightening. If McCain wins it might be time to consider leaving. More wars, more crazy Supreme Court nominees, more graft, greed and corruption, more Media control of the message and suppression of personal liberty.
Just like that coutry in Europe circa 1938.
September 3, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. There's something about Palin, that's disturbing. A fascist gleem in her eye.
By the way, when Sarah talks about getting rid of the governor's jet, how does she square that with the McCain's private jet?
September 3, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, I turned it on - that VOICE! It's awful -
O my god -
September 3, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's weird, I'm from Minnesota (less than a mile away from her as I write this) and the way she talks like the stereotypical MN accent.
September 3, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hooray for Minnesooooota!
September 3, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
GAG....My parents are here to night.
oh goody, hockey mom jokes
Wow - the intellectual content of this speech is overwelming...NOT
September 3, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now at what point will she say she is proud to have the opportunity to tell rape victims that they will have to keep it.
September 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it just me, or is she a younger looker version of the Church Lady...or is she channeling the Church Lady? She definitely brings the jello mold to the church social...
September 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
That pitbull/lipstick gag was downright Foxworthian.
September 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boo - bad media, bad.
That's guaranteeing good press.
Keep booing Repugs. Backlash is a -coming~
September 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
That pitbull/lipstick gag was downright Foxworthian.
September 3, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
¨Tough times require strong leadership, and this is no time for on the job training.¨
—Rudy Giuliani
"She's going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the next four years."
—McCain advisor Charlie Black, on Sarah Palin's foreign policy competence.
September 3, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
She is making me sicker than Rudy.
September 3, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
¨Tough times require strong leadership, and this is no time for on the job training.¨
—Rudy Giuliani
"She's going to learn national security at the foot of the master for the next four years."
—McCain advisor Charlie Black, on Sarah Palin's foreign policy competence.
September 3, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
poor hillary....she gave the republicans all of their talking points...way to go team!
obama and biden better bring their A game ...expect all kinds of weird stories about obama....palin is in the hot seat so the fair and balanced media has to negate every negative for palin with a double negative for obama....
this is sick.....can i really live in this country with a mccain/palin presidency?
September 3, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ain't gonna happen. McSame is toast. Extra burnt.
September 3, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
And how much in debt was your city when you left? How many earmarks did you ask for?
And even the crowd knows you were for the bridge before you were against it.
September 3, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her voice is driving me crazy!
September 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many times are they going to talk about terrorism?
September 3, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
That convention does't look pretty filled.
The notion that America will vote for Mondale/Ferraro 2.
September 3, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
i keep waiting for her to unzip her skin and for some horrible lizard creature to emerge.
September 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Republican party exists only to perpetuate itself. No twist of logic or moral acrobatics is too great for those people on the convention floor to make. If a Republican pol says it, it's the truth, it's smart, it's fair, it's the greatest thing ever. Hell, Palin's speech wasn't even that good; it was little more than name calling, but the Republican party faithful had decided it was going to be better than Obama's and dammit if they weren't going to do their part to make it seem that way.
Incidentally, that's why they govern so poorly. When you're only policy is beating the other guy any way you can, it makes it kinda difficult to have a coherent opinion on actual issues, nor is it easy to develop an internal reason for avoiding corruption.
September 4, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
dur.. That should be your. I hate it when I miss bone-headed junk like that in editing.
September 4, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink