Election Central Sunday Roundup
McCain Retracts Palin's Agreements With Obama On Pakistan
Appearing today on ABC's This Week, John McCain was forced to disavow Sarah Palin's agreement yesterday with Barack Obama about attacking al-Qaeda within the Pakistani border. McCain criticized the press for picking up on Palin's conversation with a voter on the street in Philadelphia: "Sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's -- that's a person's position."
McCain Camp: Obama Will Make Our Problems Worse
Top McCain adviser Steve Schmidt told the Washington Post that the campaign will press ahead with attacks against Barack Obama on the economy and national security, charging that his positions would "make the world more dangerous and America less secure," and that he would "make our economy worse." This does seem like a defensive position -- Schmidt can't actually point to a successful Republican record to run on.
Dem Ticket In Michigan Today
Barack Obama and Joe Biden, plus their wives, are holding a big rally today in Michigan, scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m. ET.
GOP Ticket Off The Trail
John McCain and Sarah Palin don't have any scheduled public events for today.
Poll: Obama Won The Debate
Another poll says that Barack Obama won the debate on Friday. The new numbers from USA Today/Gallup: Respondents said Obama did a better job by a 46%-34% margin, and by a 52%-35% margin say he was the candidate who offered the best proposals for dealing with the country's problems.
Both Candidates Support Bailout -- Sort Of
The two presidential candidates are both indicating that they'll support the Wall St. bailout deal, but it hardly seems enthusiastic. McCain was asked on This Week whether he would support it, to which he said, "Hopefully, yes." Barack Obama said on CBS' Face The Nation, "My inclination is to support it."
McCain Defends Refusal To Look At Obama During Debate
John McCain said on This Week that it was "foolishness" to criticize him for refusing to look at Barack obama during the debate. "I've been in many, many debates," said McCain. "And a lot of the times I don't look at my opponents because I'm focusing on the people and the American people that I'm talking to. That's what the debate's all about."
Oh, there's so much here. What to comment on first. How about the utter inane comment about why he wouldn't look at Obama. There's that same tone "how dare you question my debate style, you know how debates I have been in (I was a POW too)."
September 28, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't look at opponents?
Thanks, but no thanks, for diplomacy!
September 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://jzap.com/img/pig.jpg
September 28, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The sad thing is that McCain obviously lost the debate using his strategy. That he stubbornly clings to his approach says a lot about his governing capabilities. In fact, his stubbornness is one of his most prominent failings and right there, he confirms to the entire world, that by golly, bug off, I will do it my way or the highway. Very un-presidential. Let us NOT turn this psychologically impaired person loose in the White House. He will be even MORE disastrous than Bush has been. I never thought I could say that under any circumstances. And I was a Republican till now.
I did not leave the party, they left me.
September 28, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome mJJ. You are among friends now. Sanity will soon return.
September 28, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The party is you. The sum total of all republican voting decisions over the last four decades.
If the republican party doesn't reflect your values and priorities, then work to fix it in the primaries. That is our real objective as the small, moderate minority in the GOP who are voting for Obama.
I say work for progress in the primary and vote for progress in the general, no matter which party offers the platform. Eventually the GOP will have conservative, though progressive, candidates.
Better than leaving one of the country's two major political parties in the hands of zealots.
September 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
For JEM & MJJ
I can appreciate your thoughts and hopes for a more progressive direction for our country - you & others give me hope for a New Center in American Political Life.
Reminded by mjj's comment of the time that Jim Jeffords of VT left the GOP back in the early days of the Bush Junta - using just those words - sad it was that no one in his (former)party offered him any support whatsoever - I do wish Jeffords had been able to stay in the Senate.
Having said that, I feel obligated to mention that the signs of an extremist party have been out in the open for years! Please recall those early years of GOP Power - Rove and others were quite openly talking about the ascent of a permanent GOP majority presumably for the purpose of eviscerating any and all Liberal ideas, programs and protections for Average Americans. They had Openly Declared Their Intent to Rule as a One Party State!
Therein lies part of the problem - I have never heard of any moderate or liberal - person or party advocate for the elimination of the voices of a sizable group of Americans from the national conversation WE ALL must have to have a healthy and growing country economically, socially and morally.
Karl Rove's dream of the "Permanent Majority" ran aground in 2006 - but I have no doubt that given the opportunity - these people do not still dream of absolute power for themselves and their allies in corporate boardrooms across the country.
September 28, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This final act has been building for the last forty years, Baby Bush and Karl Rove and the PNAC crowd are just the latest incarnation.
I think the backlash for the neocons this year is that a moderate majority is beginning to figure out how to disagree on short-term tactics without disagreeing on long-term strategy for the nation.
I joined the republicans last month, so I don't own any of their poor voting decisions. I just want to help promote the rise of a more common sense conservatism that has been missing since Eisenhower. Being an independent in a two party system seemed to be choosing not to play the game at all while knowing that the only way to change it is from the inside.
Hell, even Nixon governed better than the modern GOP.
September 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't understand, but it is obvious: He was simply looking at the fundamentals of the economy!
September 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently that's US. So why is he dissing us?
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
You just don't understand...
I see you got lipstick on that pig. Time to save and mail that picture around to a few friends who'll chucle big! Thanks! (Subject Line: Down the Drain with McCain)
September 28, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, that's the line.
By the way, love your avatar!
September 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
¡Gracias!
It's card from the Spanish deck.
September 28, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's why it's familiar. Mr. TheraP is from Spain.
September 28, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too!
September 28, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are they strong?
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
(sniff... sniff...)
Ugh! They sure smell strong!
September 28, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
As some at the Kos pointed out, he even failed to look at his fundementals of economy because the idiot was looking into the wrong camera for the most part.
September 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hasn't quite gotten used to this new fangle techno-camera stuff.
September 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If McCain was focused on the American people, perhaps he should explain then why he said, "Horsesh*t" twice during the debate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rZBmk0DYU
September 28, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever it is McCain is saying at that moment, I can't imagine he wants to retreat from the 'I knew what I was talking about' position with respect to his comments last week on Zapatero; especially when the only alternative is that he really did think Spain is in the western hemisphere and that Zapatero is a Latin American dictator.
Which, by the way, is what he really meant.
September 28, 2008 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I didn't realize that the American people that McCain was so fixated on during the debates were all named Jim!
What a lame-ass excuse.
September 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, when everyone started pointing out that McCain failed to look at Obama, I took it for granted that his handlers would no doubt take him aside, pronto, and advise him to correct that bit of business in the next debate. But after reading this, I would bet money that, regardless of what anyone tells him, he's actually going to do it again.
Is the man insane?
(yes, that's a rhetorical question)
September 28, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
None of you understand: for five-and-a-half years, he only had people he had to contemptuously avoid looking at. How dare you even suggest that he was somehow singling out Obama; how dare you try to use his war wounds to score political points.
September 29, 2008 3:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, sticking a microphone to catch what the candidate for vice president is saying is just unconscionable.
What a joke he's turned into.
"A lot of times I don't look at my opponents"...For the entire freaking debate? Even when you shake hands with them?
This is a joke.
September 28, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was lame, just like everything else he says. Totally and hopelessly lame.
That's no explanation at all.
September 28, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Being a public figure in mcShame's campaign is just unconcionable!
September 28, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correction: unconscionable!
September 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, the McCain campaign would never use anything like that..."Bitter" anyone
September 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I may need to turn to gambling!
September 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ignoring Obama throughout the debate, but trying to convince the viewers that he is the only one who can put partisan politics on the side. The public didn't buy it.
September 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, god forbid the handlers don't get to her first...
September 28, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
They didn't get there fast enough - despite this cartoon in the WaPo.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/toles_main.html?name=Toles&date=09282008&type=c?hpid=opinionsbox1
September 28, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
On noes, Palin is in more than a bubble. That cartoon was too funny.
Speaking of cartoons, SNL writers are taking it easy. Instead of writing script they have Tina Fey use Palin's exact words abstract and scrambled as they were.
September 28, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's -- that's a person's position."...
Thanks, John. So now you realize that sticking a microphone and extracting a clip out of context where someone says that folks who are frustrated cling to guns and religion does not reflect their general position.
Although: "If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should," does indicate one's position very clearly.
September 28, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah... this from the WaPo on how she illegally spoke against legislation in AK:
"Let me take my governor's hat off for just a minute here and tell you, personally, Prop. 4 -- I vote no on that," she said.
It's illegal in AK for a politician to influence the vote. Ooops! Now being investigated!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834_pf.html
So much for SP speaking personally.
September 28, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
uh . . . "Sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's -- that's a person's position."
Heaven forbid that a candidate should have to back up what they tell a voter when they think they're not being taped.
September 28, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kudos to the joe citizen who asked the question in the middle of the Philly Cheesesteak photo op.
September 28, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should be the first person Obama awards a national medal of freedom!
September 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, um, except that you didn't talk to the camera, which would have been talking to the people. Apparently the only people you were talking to and appealing to were those in the auditorium. What a douchebag. I've absolutely had enough of him.
September 28, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny thing that - I have too, and more - and it's been exposure to McLame that has done that. He's been on TV loads for all these years, but I had no real idea what he's like - and now that I know I can't stand the little fucker. I mean I see him and it's visceral like it is with Bush.
I can't stand him. I want him to go the hell away - retire. Please.
September 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
And let him take his buddy Bill Clinton with him.
September 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
At this point he has been so successfully branded as a LIAR that no matter what he says, it will not affect what people saw with their own eyes on Friday... and can still see!
September 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't have ever voted for him, but I still had a shred of respect for him. Not much, really, but a shred. His shenanigans this week, on top of the Palin pick, have obliterated that. He's just a conniving nasty tempered little man who will do anything to get elected.
September 28, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had respect for him, too. But he hasn't done ANYTHING to really earn that respect anymore, and frankly, he's done just the opposite. He has lied, he's deceived, he's completely disrespected the intelligence of not only Obama, but also of ME and the American people. He deserves to lose in a crushing defeat.
September 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup.
September 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin pick=NO respect! I will always be pissed off for his sacrifice of our security to win an election. He accused Obama of "losing the war to win an election"...
Sad, pathetic little man.
September 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has been in the public eye for decades, yet only recently has the public seen McCain for what he is. What does that tell you about the realationship between McCain and the media?
September 28, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. His explanation is no more truthful than when he refers to us as 'my friends', a term when coming from him, makes my skin crawl. What he's doing is scrambling, trying to come up with an explanation that will let him skate on his debate shortcoming. Think of it as explanation ver 1.0
September 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you all aware there was a large anti-Palin demonstration up in Alaska yesterday?
Photos and description here:
http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/27/alaskans-demand-accountability-from-palin-huge-rally/
Vidoes here:
http://www.themudflats.net/2008/09/28/bedtime-in-alaska-open-thread-2/
And WaP0 has exposed more dirt on Palin:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834_pf.html
September 28, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Cool, dat.
September 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow!
Now someone tell me that Americans are stupid and will fall for this.
Sarah has killed her own career along with mcLame's.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaha!
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's 'pro-life' except for
fish
black bears
grizzly bears
wolverines
wolves
polar bears
caribou
moose
ptarmigan, ducks, geese
wildlife habitat
ANWAR
September 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
And jailed humans.
September 28, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He was looking *down*-hardly at the "American people". Horseapples.
September 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
He was looking *down*-hardly at the "American people". Horseapples.
September 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
What you expect people to consistently say the same thing when speaking to reporters and speaking to ordinary citizens? How quaint.
September 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
They were aiming the microphones at the wrong orifice.
September 28, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama at 50 in 3 tracking polls today, you know this is gotta be pissing McCain off.
September 28, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I noticed that. I think he's been above 50 in the past 2 or 3 Rasmussen trackers, too.
September 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
For yesterday's single day poll, he as above 50 in R2000.
Sweet.
September 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
And he's at 50 today, I think. That couldn't make McCain feel good.
September 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
And fivethirtyeight.com is giving Obama an 80.5% win percentage.
Might be time for Johnny to suspend his campaign for good.
But I do hope he hangs on for a few more days. I really, really want to see the Palin-Biden debate!
September 28, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
McPalin- Never fail to rise above their own heights of inaptitude, McLame makes W. look like Einstien in his prime.
Sarah practically forces IQ measures to start in negatives.
September 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's dragging down the Bell Curve!
September 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's attached to that collar around her neck.
September 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which is affixed to the Titanic.
September 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great sign that Obama hit 50% on 3 tracking polls!!!
September 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
An eight point advantage on today's Gallup!
September 28, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the next desperation stunt by the McCain camp in 3...2...1
September 28, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next McDramaQueen hissyfit coming soon.
September 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
So Americans are "foolish" for questioning why he did not look at Obama. Hmmmm....very revealing!
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Foolish" Fundamentals that we are.
September 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
And both of them are off the campaign trail today. McCain trying to be Maverick Negotiator and Palin trying to get a clue with the help of her Bush tutors. Pathetic.
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nobody can ask Palin any questions. that's her personal business. John McCain wasn't smirking and acting bizarre, he was focusing on the American People. What a bunch of chopped liver!
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
One month into their 'partnership' and McCain has already neutered his VP: she can't do a press conference, she can't answer questions from her traveling corp., she can't go on a sunday talk show, she can't partake in the post-debate converage, and, now, he has to disavow something she advocated (who knows how many times) on the campaign trail.
One month into the campaign, with v limited responsibilities and, beyond her appeal to the conservative-base, Gov Palin is almost exclusively a liability.
Nice pick senator McCain.
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pretty much sums it up.
September 28, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean "spayed" - he spayed his VP.
September 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAA best explanation ever..
"Nice save, McCain!"
September 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile, Al Gore is appearing at a fundraiser for Al Franken today.
Guests include David Wellstone and Bob Weir, and there'll be a special performance by Dana Carvey.
The location is Nicasio, CA, in Marin County, about an hour north of San Francisco.
I'm going. It'll be my first fundraiser ever. Oughta be a blast! I wonder how my TPM Lipstick-on-a-Pig T-shirt will go over :-)
September 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome. Let us know how it goes.
September 28, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOoo nice shirt.
Yeah be sure and let us know how it goes - sounds good and I'm glad Franken is taking advantage of the current climate to strike while it's really hot.
All the Democrats running should start to really ramp it up and I think they will if they haven't already. This is the perfect time to leap into the fray in a big way. Momentum could carry us to a beautiful landslide, a pickup of enough seats in Congress to give Obama a solid majority.
September 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You need one with your latest:
http://jzap.com/img/pig.jpg
September 28, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
McShame and Palin are becoming jokes.
Watching the SNL parody of Palin's interview with Couric, I kept thinking that what Palin actually said was more bizarre -- and funnier in a pathetic way -- than anything SNL's writers could come up with. They could have had Tina Fey repeating what Palin said word for word and it would have gotten more laughs than what the writers wrote. It's got to be a dilemma for them -- how do you parody an unintentional parody?
I was disappointed they didn't do something about McCain's failure to make eye contact in the debate skit.
September 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just saw a clip on CNN where they compared Palin to Fey and SNL did pretty much use her own words.
September 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. As Andrew Sullivan said,
"And, of course, the amazing thing is that a whole section of the script was directly transcribed from Palin's actual attempted interview with Katie Couric. There is no way Saturday Night Live could make more fun of Palin than she made of herself."
September 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was the genius of the skit - the joke wasn't a joke.
September 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
" "actual attempted interview"
Bears repeating!
September 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Wolfie commenting on the fact about how they used her own words in the skit. "Never seen a parody actually use the words from the interview."
September 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, they did use phrases like "the health care reform" and so on. I still think if they had done a literal transcription -- everything exactly as it was said word for word -- it would have been even funnier.
September 28, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's probably being set to music right now!
September 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is such a liar -- the times when he was clearly intentionally not looking at Obama was when Obama was speaking directly to him! As was noted yesterday, it seems likely McCain adopted a tactic of not looking at Obama to keep himself from getting angry and devolving into his Elmer Fudd true self.
September 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
+1
September 28, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that might be it. He was afraid if he looked at Obama his head would actually explode.
September 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
R.E. Palin, the proper response is this: "Will you make her available for interviews so that she can articulate her actual views, then?"
September 28, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
AT this rate, McLame will be right on the verge of going ballistic in the 2d debate.
September 28, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will be a townhall meeting with Obama moving into his line of sight and saying "Look at me John. Just once look at me."
September 28, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate town hall debates. They always involve ringers with set-up questions. I hope Obama practices for every possible "gotcha" he can think of. It'll probably be some 5-year-old kid asking, "Why do you Muslims hate 'Murka so much?"
September 28, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope so. I would love to see him lose his temper in one of these debates. He's like a toddler.
September 28, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
And that will be the end of it. A live meltdown on national TV will be replayed over and over and McCain will be done. Or undone...
September 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rapture Readiness.
September 28, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
For the first time, I've started to seriously wonder if Palin will make it to Nov. 4. The McCain campaign does not want to be talking about her taking Obama's foreign policy positions or using her office to get zoning variances in Wasilla while Obama is having 26,000 people cheer for him in the rain in Virginia.
September 28, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if Cheney will invite her to go hunting.
September 28, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
It won't work. The pellets would go straight through her head and not even leave a mark.
September 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Cheney would be more afraid of going on a hunting trip with her. I know I don't want to be around her and a shotgun.
September 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cuz she's an airhead?
September 28, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain speaks an "untruth" about never making eye contact with his debate opponents. Here he is eyeballing Keyes, Bush, Romney and Paul:
September 28, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooops, so sorry. Link from Daily Kos didn't work.
September 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's try one more time:
eyeballing
September 28, 2008 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with ChronoSpark. I don't recall him ever looking directly into the camera. It was hard to tell on whom he was focused. Since he always seemed to direct his answers toward the same spot I assumed he was looking at Lehrer. Unless he was focusing on one particular audience member all the time that made the most sense to me. Regardless, anywhere but at Obama. I think he didn't dare look at Obama because he knew he'd lose it. Someone on here the other day commented that Obama should've said, "John, I'm right here". Next debate that should be the strategy-make him direct his condescending comments to the one he's condescending. Every time he brags on how often he "reached across the aisle" Obama should retort " Across the aisle? You can't even look across the stage." I stole that idea from someone else on here but, hey, I agree.
September 28, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Join the crowd - we all steal from each other. LOLOLOL!
I'm not letting a good line lay there unappreciated - I'll pick it up and make it mine.
September 28, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I view us all as working together for a common cause.
September 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
We've truly gone round the bend. The mcShame campaign is nothing but a parody! It is beyond a parody. It is camp. It is paradox. Like something out of Salvador Dali. It is not even comical... but a horrible metastatic process with no known cure!
September 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can expect the mud to be thrown at as Senator Obama in the next few days...
Obama is u by 8% in the latest gallup, which is great news, because it supports that Senator did very well during the debate and won the debate.
Did you guys watch SNL last night, It was perfect...
And I am sure next week will be better. there is a new story:
Governot Pitbull not only believes but said that dinosaurs and humans coexisted...
Any chance that this question would be asked during the debate?
September 28, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell us more...link?
September 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html
on mccain's not having looked at obama (and i haven't gotten to the bottom of the comments, so maybe this has been covered), but WTF does he mean the point of a debate is to talk to the audience? that's the point of a press conference. that's the point of a speech. but i thought the point of a debate was to DEBATE, or discuss, or argue, a point with AN OPPONENT. am i wrong about that?
September 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean what's been going on for the last few months isn't gonna stop? :-)
She should know. She's on the ticket with one.
September 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently dinosaurs and pitbulls (and lipstick) coexist, anyway...
September 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder who would AGREE to be on the ticket in Palin's place???
Romney - never.
Pawlenty - he might fall on his sword for the GOP.
Giuliani - he makes me the most nervous, for some reason.
Lieberman - he'd jump at it, but the base would spontaneously ignite!
What do you guys think?
September 28, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gamblers for mcCain is taking bets.
September 28, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Pawlenty would say no too. It would probably be the end of his political career.
Both Rudy and Joe would cause the religious right wing party to implode, and hand Obama the election, esp when coupled with the 24/7 discussion in the media regarding "McCain's decision making process"
It's damned if he keeps her, and damned if he drops her. Given McCain's stubbornness, my guess is that he sticks with her rather than admit he made a mistake.
September 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
From your keyboard to God's monitor!
September 28, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
renegademom, I couldn't begin to predict who might be suicidal enough to put themselves on a ticket after Sarah Palin was there first.
Honest to god - who wants to be second choice to Sarah "Tell ya what, I'll go find em and bring em to ya" Palin?
September 28, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
There ya go! Somebody suicidal. And once that somebody becomes known, they definitely need their head examined. Then hospitalization. Possibly ECT.
September 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
He makes everybody nervous. That's his M.O.
September 28, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mitt Romney would sell John Smith's soul to the devil for a grab at the precioussssss....
September 28, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a little bemused by a few heads on Fox inferring that Palin has to go. Gee, they adored her just last week. Guess they are finally admitting a cringe factor, too. So, because McCain didn't look under the hood, kick the tires and get a Carfax report before selecting his V.P., certainly didn't check the warranty or the contract, now a refund seems to be in the making. We all know this is OBVIOUS proof of McCain's lack of wisdom and good judgment, and leadership. I see at Catch-22 all the way around, so he's stuck and we're stuck. However, ultimately, the travesty of this Republican ticket will be addressed with fervor through a NATIONAL VOTE in NOVEMBER of NO to McCAIN/PALIN and YES to Obama/Biden. No refund, no early withdrawal, let's VOTE them away.
September 28, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's going to depend on the debate. She's done horribly the last couple of weeks, but she makes me nervous because a lot of people feel like they connect with her--and she does have some skill at public speaking, when it's rehearsed.
If Gwen Ifill asks her questions that, for some reason, she's been rehearsing and she comes off as at least passable, and maybe Joe puts his foot in his mouth, the media's going to suddenly get back on board with her and call her credible. She won't have to "meet the press" again for the duration of the campaign. McCain can put her back in the bus and that's that.
If, on the other hand, she flops big-time, "family issues" will require her to remove herself from the ticket.
My bet is she wears a wire.
September 28, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I said yesterday it's going to be Giuliani because he's the only one who'll take it. The guy never turns down a chance to be in front of cameras. We'll have Mr. a noun, a verb and 9/11 backing up Mr. a noun, a verb and POW.
September 28, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
i want to see romney and giuliani in a cage match to the death for it, then have Mac give it to someone else again.
September 29, 2008 7:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
You'll all be interested to know that throughout Kansas City, in both Missouri and Kansas, I have almost exclusively seen Obama/Biden yard signs.
McCain supporters are almost as difficult to find as Sarah Palin.
September 28, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are they even printing McCain-Palin signs? Is this a tell?
Here in SE Ohio the only McCain signs to be found date from the primaries and don't mention his pet pitbull.
September 28, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here in Northern Colorado, I've only seen a fairly small number of McCain yard signs. And none of them - NONE - ever mention Sarah Palin.
I find that shocking, to be honest.
Oh wait - I do remember seeing one bumper sticker recently that said 'McCain-Palin'. And that's really interesting, because there are far more 'Musgrave' and 'Schaffer for Senate' stickers and signs, especially out on the prairie. Good luck finding any sign mentioning The Moose Hunter.
September 28, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
For some reason they sent a few such signs to WI. But Obama signs far and away predominate.
September 28, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even his response to being condescending is condescending
September 28, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nicely put and so very right on. You got it - that's McLame - a condescending little prick.
September 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh WOW! Palin's unfavorables slip to -10!
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/palins-favorabl.html
September 28, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
It should be her favorables not unfavorables. Lol! But you all get the idea.
September 28, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Tina Fey. You are a true patriot.
September 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's smart, talented and very attractive. Who wouldn't like her? Daaamn.
September 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I think afer her first skit, she made it okay to mock her without it being called sexist.
September 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fey is really a pretty woman. I honestly do not think Palin is all that pretty.
I hope Tina Fey knows that she's far far more attractive than Sarah Palin will ever be.
September 28, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm inclined to agree, although Tina Fey claims her kid saw Palin on TV and said, "That's my mommy."
The people who gush about Palin's alleged attractiveness aren't looking very deep. Ignorance is ugly and that is her dominant characteristic.
September 28, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never found Palin attractive. I saw her on that small CNN interview before she was picked as VP, and thought, "Oh... that's it?" Tina Fey, on the other hand.. Did you see her on the cover of Rolling Stone? Phew..!
September 28, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I tell people who think Palin is attractive that if I had a schoolmarm fantasy, it would have better casting than THAT.
September 28, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoa!
Goddamn it's nice to see my faith in people is not wholly misplaced.
September 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Walking the line between optimism and cynicism is tough.
September 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much for "Miss Congeniality"!. I love to see it. Give her the pink slip, McLame.
September 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I love is to see mcShame scrambling to put out all the fires. And he can't keep up! He simply can't find them fast enough!
September 28, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Translation: "Waaaah, Waaaah, Waaaah"
September 28, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Straight Talk Express JMac I "liked" (quoted from Daily Kos):
"I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I'd had the ambition for a long time."-----John McCain, "Worth Fighting For," 2002
This must find its way into a new ad.
September 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is, as I'd said a few times earlier, the "dark side" equivalent of Hubert Humphrey in 1968 - so desperate to be President that he will say and do anything to get there. At least HHH had a good record and was an essentially decent fellow, where McCain has lived his entire life skating past the consequences of his idiocy and assholiness.
September 28, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
He (mccain) was certainly NOT looking at anyone and not the American people - He did not even mention them - as Obama is highlighting, he didn't mention the middle class or the American worker once in the entire debate. He resembled Cheney more than anything - devious, cynical, and disturbed. He's just as out of touch as Cheney.
And where is he today - There is a very compelling, very lengthy investigative article article in the NY Times about McCain and gambling - A must read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?hp
He should really be hanging his head down now, but of course won't
September 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
CrapShooters for McSame
September 28, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
And let him take Bill Clinton with him.
September 28, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Afuckingmen.
I'm so over Big Dawg. Dammit Bill, there was a time when I thought you were the hottest thing going and boy have stepped all over that.
Go the hell home.
September 28, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next McDramaQueen hissyfit coming soon.
September 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any forecast as to what or how?
September 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever stunt they pull, I trust NoDrama Obama to outmaneuver them.
September 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I read how the Dems had outmaneuvered that White House meeting... making Obama the spokesperson for them and then forcing mcShame to have to choose the admin or the conservatives....
Yup... Obama's campaign is so steady. And he's got all the Dems behind him. And the bloggers watching his back. I just love it!
September 28, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of Sunday Morning talkshows. Does anyone notice that neither Romney nor Pawlenty have campaigned for McCain since the Palin pick? What's going on with the two of them? And why are they not supporting McCain?
It's obvious the media has unfairly portrayed the disunity in the Democratic ranks while ignoring the chaos in the GOP.
September 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've seen Pawlenty acting as a surrogate several times since the convention.
September 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's easy to confuse no campaigning with no coverage. It's been happening to Biden, too.
September 28, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if any of these Congresscritters have insisted on having access to the costs to date of secret attempts to bail out the failing system, such as those by the Plunge Protection Team.
September 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Steve Schmidt who is Karl Roves protege and is also Mccain chief strategist just got pawned by David Axelrod who is Obama chief strategist on Meet The Press earlier this morning,steve schmidt is such a dumb ass talkin the victory over and over again in iraq,when Gen.David Petraeus said that he's not certain if its gonna b any such thing as a victory.
September 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good!
I can't stand Schmidt, on a very visceral level, either.
And nobody is going to be able to outwit David Plouffe. I've decided the guy is a fucking genius.
September 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Expect the McCain campaign to usher in Rev. Wright this week. When they attack Obama as being wrong, they'll question his judgment by bringing Wright into it.
And Ayers.
It's going to be nasty.
September 28, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's a losing strategy on McCain's part if they go down this path (and they probably will). People are looking for solutions and someone who will inspire them.
September 28, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I absolutely agree. The only question is when: will it be before or after the debates? My sense is a trickle starts this coming week and then the flood mid-October. The only thing McCain has left at this point is Obama's race and he is going to ride that hard to the end.
September 28, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Hagee, anyone?
September 28, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Hagee, anyone?
September 28, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you didn't I strongly recommend the Tina Fey version of the Palin-Couric Interview. It was brilliant, better than her first skit.
Primarily because in an instance or two, Tina uses the exact verbatim from the orginal interview. It's just political discourse at its best.
Here is the link via huffpo
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/tina-fey-as-sarah-palin-k_n_129956.html
September 28, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep - way better than the first one. She really had Palin pegged last night and it was gorgeous. Thank you Tina! I hope Fey knows that she's about 3000 times prettier than Sarah Palin ever could be.
September 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I'd know about this sooner! I'm only 15 mins away from Nicasio. Beautiful area, I drive through the town often on my way to work.
September 28, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Al FrankenGore gig: It's $250 a pop. If you're interested, there might still be tickets left.
There are two phone numbers on the sign-up page, one in the image and another in the text below it.
September 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heres a local video stream of the Obama/Biden rally in Detroit. Barack, Joe, Michelle and Jill are all there. New mayor Ken Cockrel already spoke.
http://www.wxyz.com/content/video/stream.aspx
September 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism...."
How perfect is that?? I agree, Obama should jump on that.
September 28, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's totally lost it!
September 28, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain/Palin: Defining accountability down.
September 28, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey TheraP,
I'm kinda of an older guy (53) and somewhat impaired when it comes to computers and new technology. Could you (or anyone else out there) tell me how I might use this picture as my avatar? I've never had one, but I'd love to use this pig with lipstick as my first avatar ever.
Even if it doesn't work, that was fun yesterday.
September 28, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Definitely!!!! Go right ahead! You were the inspiration of it all!
September 28, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meant to post that next comment here. But check out "Gamblers for mcCain" - for which you get some credit:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/gamblers-for-mccain.php
September 28, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Load it into an image editor and resize it to 64 pixels wide. Photoshop is the best, of course, and there are others, including free ones. XNView does lots of other things as well. (Free - just Google it.)
September 28, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just right click on the picture and save it to your computer (you might want to save it to your desktop so it'll be easy to find). Then click on the word "EDIT" that's next to "Your Profile" in red at the top of this page. Scroll down to the box that says "Photo", click browse, find the picture and click on it (the file name should appear in the "Photo" window). After that be sure to click the "Save" button at the bottom of the page. You may need to close your browser and then get back on before the image appears.
September 28, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. forgot the info. First download that onto your computer. Then go to "edit" your profile. And upload onto your profile in the spot for avatar. Then be sure to click "save."
P.S. I'm 63. But learning as I go...
September 28, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
And to download the picture to your computer:
Put the cursor over the picture, right click your mouse and choose Save as, then name it and save it.
When you Edit your TPM profile click Browse and choose the picture that you just named.
Can't wait to see it!
September 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the help everyone! I've got to run now, but I'll get to creating my pig with/lipstick going-down-the-drain with McCain avatar later this afternoon.
Today's polls are heartening. I've been interested in politics since I was 12, and my experience has almost always been one of heartbreak (especially from the assassinations in '68) and feelings of rage, helplessness, and despair. This year I've alternated between feelings of cautious hope and fear, as sometimes I can't quite believe that America will really elect someone like Barack Obama. But although five weeks can be an eternity in politics, and I know that we can't let up in giving our time, energy, and money to win this election, I'm actually starting to let myself believe (emotionally) that we will. I'm trying to go slow though.
Honestly, it's been very strange. On one hand, I've been trying to keep myself from really feeling and believing that it will happen. On the other hand, I've been trying to keep myself from really imagining and feeling what it would be like to lose again. It's just been bizarre, not really being able to conceive (emotionally) of either possibility.
The last few days I feel like I'm starting to exhale. It sure would be nice to breath a little between now and November.
September 28, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
UTMark, looks like the ability to upload avatars is broken at the moment. Don't give up though! Eventually they will get things working again.
September 28, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
September 28, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or perhaps on the podium?
September 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Character -- What you do when you think nobody is looking.
Position -- What you say when you think nobody is listening.
September 28, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/palin-claimed-dinosaurs-a_n_130012.html
on mccain's not having looked at obama (and i haven't gotten to the bottom of the comments, so maybe this has been covered), but WTF does he mean the point of a debate is to talk to the audience? that's the point of a press conference. that's the point of a speech. but i thought the point of a debate was to DEBATE, or discuss, or argue, a point with AN OPPONENT. am i wrong about that?
September 28, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
WTF, why didn't this respond where it was supposed to? well, i'm putting it where it belongs, too. sorry.
September 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forgive my naivete but is there a way to insure that your comment appears after the comment you've commented on??
HusseinTinaX: You are so right about Fey being orders of magnitude more attractive than Palin. It's almost kind of insulting to Fey to compare them.
I think I misconstrued strategy and tactic in an earlier comment. Maybe I should've consulted first with Cranky McCpoopypants, but I prefer the explanation of someone else on here commenting on another story: Punching someone in the face as a response is a tactic. Walking away afterwards is a strategy.
September 28, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Make sure you click the "Reply" link in the comment you want to reply to. Then be sure that the little "In reply to XXXXX" box that appears in the Post a Comment window is checked. If you do that, it should appear where you want, but the software does get a little goofy sometimes.
September 28, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll get this right yet. Forgot to check box.
September 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
nova voter you are exactly right regarding the point of a debate.
September 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
DUH!!
Thank you!
September 28, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Clinton this morning on MTP: "Most of these people that are undecided, they like John McCain, and they kind of like her [Palin], what they know of her."
Can someone interpret this for me?
September 28, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
SNL also nailed that really well, too.
September 28, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
My only hope here is that he's doing something we therapists call "supporting the defense." Which means if you're trying to change someone's mind, don't directly attack their beliefs. Shore them up - as crazy as they may be. And let them fall by their own weight.
September 28, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, if you actually stayed up for Weekend Update, the Clinton piece was way better than the debate skit.
September 28, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's probably Clinton-speak for "Hillary and I will see you in 2012, but for now I'm REALLY going to do whatever Obama asks of me".
September 28, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was intended for S Green.
September 28, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The thing I wish Obama would say about meeting any foreign leader we consider inimical is what I heard Abba Eban wittily respond when asked, "How can Israel negotiate with its enemy the Palestinians?" In that rich Oxonian voice, he asked, "With whom should one negotiate, if not one's enemies?"
Oops--is something that sensible and witty elitist?
September 28, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it that I can't CHANGE my avatar pic? I want to change it to a double helix but for some reason it doesn't work even the the pic IS 64 pixels
September 28, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
That feature seems broken today. People who want to load an avatar can't get it to load either.
September 28, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he could see Russia from the podium.
September 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
McHorseshit. It's gotta ring to it.
September 28, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't palin essentially agree with Barack during the Gibson interview by repeatedly answer that very question with "we must keep all options open"?
Also, does that mean McCain says shit to people on the street that he doesn't really mean? It doesn't count until I say it on MTP?
September 28, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It has been like that for more than a week. People don't take me to seriously because of the avy, lol, so I need something a bit more.........respectable.
September 28, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
much appreciated.
September 28, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
My thoughts:
1. I just don't trust Bill Clinton. However, Obama must keep his friends close and his enemies closer.
2. You can tell a man by the game he likes if he is a gambler. McCain's favorite game is craps thus one sees he thrives on hail Mary's and drama. McCain is all about high stakes where he wins big or loses big. Obama's favorite game is poker thus you see him using his intelligence, tactics, and strategy. Obama is cool as a cat and wears a poker face.
3. Obama won the first debate and Palin is about to go into the VP debate this week. Continue to expect the unexpected from the McCain camp this week as well as major mud being thrown at Obama. Ayers was talked about in Fox & Friends this morning. Fox & Friends is a show to watch on what the GOP talking points of the day & week will be.
September 28, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
How is all of this playing among the repub party faithful?
Or are they all simply in denial?
September 28, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
September 28, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if they gave him some kind of drug to be "up" for the debate. And they have to keep him sequestered till it wears off.
Maybe they should have random drug testing of candidates. And random ear exams.
September 28, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, McCain said on This Week today that the reason he came back to Washington was because he wasn't going to "phone it in".
Now that he is back in Washington he isn't going to the Capitol because he can 'do what he needs to do on the phone."
so phoning it in is OK if it is done from the same city?
is there anything on which he doesn't contradict himself?
September 28, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a newcomer to TPM, telling myself I can enjoy it because McCain's post-Palin stress disorder means he has no chance of winning.
Today's WaPo story (linked above) concerning the accusation that Gov. Palin violated AK law by publicly opposing a ballot initiative explains a great deal. Palin is quoted as having said, "Let me take my governor's hat off for just a minute here and tell you, personally, Prop. 4 -- I vote no on that."
Consider carefully the implications of that statement. As far as I know, every time in this campaign that Palin has said something bizarre, off the wall or merely uninformed, SHE WAS NOT WEARING A HAT, so she is not responsible for those statements. Furthermore, until she puts on the vice-presidential hat she is not responsible for not acting as if she had a vice-presidential brain, and we are being grossly unfair to her.
September 28, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
By George, I think you've got it!!!!
September 28, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I personally can't wait to see Bristol Palin get married to that young man during the last week of October. I mean, what better fate for a young woman than to marry a 17 year old high school dropout who has been arrested numerous times to ensure the pregnant mother has someone to rely one while her mother is (potentially) thousands of miles away for work.
That would just be wonderful! Go LIFE!
September 28, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel sorry for the kid. I really do. Well, for both kids. And the third kid, if she's really pregnant.
September 28, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...attacks against Barack Obama on the economy and national security, charging that his positions would "make the world more dangerous and America less secure," and that he would "make our economy worse."
He'd have to become a republican to do this...a continuation of the Bush/McCain policies.
"Sticking a microphone..." As in capturing a person's confusioin...the nerve of reporters...asking questions the candidate has not been sufficiently prepped on how to answer.
For real truthful perspective all I can say is thank you Tina Faye.
McCain screws up everything he touches.
btw...McCain denounced America and did propaganda videos for his captors within 4 days of his capture. His torture consisted of not being treated for his crash injuries. The man is a con and has been milking this propaganda for years.
September 28, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
And was he truly shot down or did the guy known for crashing planes just fly down?
September 28, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's -- that's a person's position."
"Hey! You kids, there... Get that electric talking stick away from Sarah!"
September 28, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
For five and a half years, John McCain couldn't look at his opponents in Presidential debates.
September 28, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah's opening statement at the devbate: "Who am I and what am I doing here?"
September 28, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
debate
September 28, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
While I have read lately how Palin is a good debater, I have a feeling that Caribou Barbie will receive a good thrashing.
September 28, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has lost It. Although, I'm not sure how much It he ever had. It, being all touch with reality.
He is just pathologically obsessed with getting that pat on the head, "You did good, Johnny; we like you".
Ever notice that when he gives a speech (er, readings; he doesn't do speeches. I have noticed that they went back to putting his speeches on his lectern. I will have to admit that seeing him look down at the end of each sentence is not nearly as distracting as watching his attempts at using teleprompters), after ever so seriously giving a "punch line" he then looks up with a big grin, "See, I did it. Didn't I do good"
September 28, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain Camp: Obama Will Make Our Problems Worse
lol they dont learn do they its not worked since they started all these lies and attack s obama now has looked and talking like a president plus that is part of the bush era people want to get away from
they really need to come up with something new but truth is I dont think they can come up with something for them to win unless something major goes wrong I can see this being a big win
September 28, 2008 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone seen this?
Honest to God, I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant display of racism combined with religious fervor.
The far right nuts scare the hell out of me.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/104/story/220041.html
September 29, 2008 12:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sending a chain e-mail asking if anyone has evidence that Obama is the Antichrist just looks dumb to me; it sounds like the guy was afraid to risk ridicule by asking his own pastor. Be afraid when e-mails start circulating with detailed "proof" that he actually is the Antichrist. Even then, although I'm rusty on the subject, I don't think the Antichrist can be killed by ordinary (human) means, so it's not likely that the rumor would spark an actual assassination plot.
But there do seem to be people out there who don't think of Obama as the Antichrist, but who suspect he is a Muslim plant who will betray America to the Islamists if he's elected. There have been nasty insinuations in the right-wing Jewish and Israeli press, despite the fact that Obama has numerous Jewish advisors and most Jews support him.
Paradoxically, there may also be radical Muslims who consider the baptized Obama to be an apostate from Islam deserving death. The latter may be the greater danger, since such an assassin could be an African-American who might put both Obama and the Secret Service off guard, letting him approach too closely.
Then, of course, there are the old-fashioned racists who want to save America from the disgrace of being ruled by a black man, regardless of his religion -- or theirs, and those of unspecified color who might fear prosecution under an Obama administration, some of whom might be connected to organizations involved in protecting him. Plenty to keep the FBI busy, which I hope they are.
In all cases, Obama will be in greater danger after the election--if he wins-- than he is now, since the anticipated "disaster" can be averted by a loss at the polls without risk to the zealots. God forbid that anything should happen, but I'm glad Obama has a competent running mate.
September 29, 2008 4:36 AM | Reply | Permalink