Election Central Saturday Roundup
Obama Ad: McCain Said "Zero" About Middle Class
The Obama campaign is quick out the gate with this new TV ad on the economy, criticizing McCain for saying nothing about the concerns of the middle class during the debate:
"Number of minutes in debate: 90," the announcer says. "Number of times John McCain mentioned the middle class: Zero."
McCain Ad: Obama Plays Politics With Soldiers' Lives
The McCain campaign has their own national TV ad, which doesn't make any reference to the debate. The ad accuses Obama of playing politics with soldiers' lives when he voted against funding the Iraq War, using year-old footage of Joe Biden criticizing Democrats who voted against funding:
"Barack Obama: Playing politics, risking lives," the announcer says. "Not ready to lead."
Dem Ticket In North Carolina And Virginia
Barack Obama and Joe Biden are holding a rally this afternoon in Greensboro, North Carolina, which began at 12:15 p.m. ET. Later on today, they have a rally in Fredericksburg, Virginia, with them scheduled to speak at 6:30 p.m. ET.
McCain Back In Washington
John McCain is off the campaign trail today, instead going back to WAshington t participate in negotiations on the Wall St. bailout.
Hillary Campaigning In Michigan
Hillary Clinton is campaigning on behalf of the Democratic ticket today in Michigan. First up is a rally scheduled for 12:45 p.m. ET in Grand Ledge, then a 3:30 p.m. ET rally in Grand Rapids. Finally, Hillary will do a rally at 6:30 p.m. ET in Flint.
Focus Group: McCain's Negativity Backfired In Debate
Time reports that a focus group run by Dem pollster Stan Greenberg found an interesting result for the debate: Voting decisions were not changed among undecided voters, but the perception of John McCain as a negative campaigner was strengthened immensely. Before the debate, McCain was seen as more negative by a seven-point margin, and then by a 26-point margin afterward -- and for his trouble, Barack Obama's numbers on readiness to be president actually increased. Thus, it appears that McCain's decision to go on the offensive in this debate only backfired.















So in response McCain launches a negative and false attack ad and Obama launches a ad attacking McCain for not talking about the middle class.
Who wins....
Once again, Obama.
September 27, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
49-44 today's Gallup. :)
September 27, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It does not seem America liked McCain's stunt of "suspending" his campaign and messing up the bail out.
September 27, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if he's actually planning on speaking in any of these meeting this time.
September 27, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
John McCain is stomping around where ever it is that he stays in DC, kicking his wife, his campaign staff, raging red-faced at clouds and challengingthe sky to cut the horseshit or he'll kick it's ass.
September 27, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!
September 27, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
My condolences.
September 27, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hiya Pete. The name change is to support Obama. S-man is still here. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Seriously. The radiation appears to have taken, for a short term anyway. The chemo continues. I'm hoping for the best outcome. They say 3 out of 4 still metastasize. I hope he will be that one that makes it. But he is quite old. So I take each day at a time. Again, sorry. I'll change it back.
September 27, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, good! No, keep the name. I'm really glad I was wrong.
September 27, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
There was just one thread I wished to change my name for. It was totally temporary. I still don't understand how this sites interface works.
September 27, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I learned early on. Change your avatar and it changes every single comment you have ever made.
September 27, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is true.
Provided that you can change the damn thing.
September 27, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, this string of avatars is making my throat close up.
Allergies....
September 27, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyway, thanks for remembering, CT. Very thoughtful of you. You are so nice.
September 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
September 27, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Negotiations:
ok... now about next Thursday.... hmmm.. what are we gonna do?
Yeah.. cuz if we cut her loose... she's gonna turn on us!
hmmm.... can we pay her off somehow?
How can you prevent her from turning on us? Then, she'd have the money - could show the money!
Hmmmm... sigh.... Doesn't she realize it's country first?
She wants the country! First!
There's gotta be a solution. There's always a solution!
How about that praying pastor? Could we pay him off? Bring him down .... he gets the "word" from God almighty....
She'll say she has a different word!
Dear Lord.....
Yes?
OMG!
Yup! Karma sucks, doesn't it?
September 27, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
[pssst: here's a friendly tip - offer the money to the First Dude. I'm betting he'll take it.]
September 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Problem is... Alaska. All the sh#@t hitting the fan up there. Think on that one.
September 27, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain was seen as more negative by a seven-point margin, and then by a 26-point margin afterward -- and for his trouble, Barack Obama's numbers on readiness to be president actually increased. Thus, it appears that McCain's decision to go on the offensive in this debate only backfired.
The emperical evidence- quantitative and qualitative - is piling. After last night, most undecided will be struggling to find legitimate reasons not to vote Obama. And remember FP debate was supposed to be the "weaker" one for O'.
September 27, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
and this is undecideds only!
September 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand the statement that the focus group revealed that voting decisions were not changed among undecided voters. What the hell is that supposed to mean? If they're undecided, doesn't that mean that they haven't yet made any decisions as to how they're going to vote? So...how would one expect that said decisions would be changed?
I don't get it. :(
September 27, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thus, it appears that McCain's decision to go on the offensive in this debate only backfired.
It wasn't that McCain went on the offensive. It was his hectoring angry tone of voice that backfired.
The tactic of going on the offensive is just fine. The manner in which it was carried out was the problem for McCain.
That, and all that blinking. He was really uncomfortable at the beginning.
September 27, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I know I'm biased, but he really lived up to the "grumpy old man" sterotype last night. I can't imagine most undecided voters tuning in and thinking "Yeah..I want to spend the next four years watching HIM on tv".
September 27, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. Who looks forward to being lectured by this grumpy guy who keeps calling all of us "his friends"?
September 27, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the constant sneering that Obama just doesn't understand.
September 27, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't that just so dismissive? Ugh. I wanted to throw something at the tv everytime he said that.
I think every person in the world has worked or went to school with someone with that attitude. If they haven't...then they are that person. (Didn't someone famous say that?)
September 27, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I swear I think I heard his voice shake, momentarily, at the beginning. ;)
September 27, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It did - he was very nervous for awhile at first.
September 27, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
They "forced" him to go to the debate
September 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was the first thing my wife and I noticed.
September 27, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Overall, I think incivility (or what's perceived that way) tends to hurt in debates. Gore's sighing, Kerry's remark about Cheney's "lesbian" daughter. And the type of attack lines that work in stump speeches don't do as well in debates.
I think Obama got it right to say that McCain was "wrong" on issues. That's not personal in the same way McCain saying that Obama "just didn't understand was."
September 27, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
And one other thing about the debate: did anyone else cringe when McCain said this?
September 27, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes.
and just - ick.
September 27, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can the word maverick be used as a verb?
September 27, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
maverick twins - running amok!
September 27, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes. A totally ICK! moment.
September 27, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
What cringed me was that creepy smile he flashed when he finished saying that. Like - smooth move on my part right folks? Palin is getting so slammed in the MSM I don't know how he can say that.
September 27, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
While Biden and Obama are together in NC and then Virginia, Hillary is in Michigan and Jill and Michelle are in Tallahassee - McCain is off the trail thinking he's going to get a huge boost when the economic deal is reached. He's probably hanging around to make sure to get into the big photo-op.
As Obama said in the debate last night, McCain voted against troop funding when it was tied to a time table withdrawal, his vote against troop funding was because it was tied to something he didn't like. It's not like there was a bill that simply said "More funding for troops - yea or nay?" and Obama voted the negative like McCain is implying here.
McCain's negativity goes directly against his bipartisan claims. I mean if all you do is trash the person chosen by the Democrats to be their candidate, how do you expect that will play should you get elected? How do you expect to lead the country when you keep insulting the candidate half the country is pulling for?
It's too bad the Obama Camp allowed the McCain Camp to game the VP debate rules - because if the format used last night was used in the VP debate it would have been a massacre. However the rules are 90 second answers meaning Palin can stay on concise talking points. Given the extremely lowered expectations for Palin and given the format, I don't think there is any way Palin will not be seen as the winner next Friday. She'll in the very least survive, and that will be enough for the pundits.
September 27, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I mostly agree with you, Jonze.
Except for one thing - I still think it's an open question whether or not there is going to be a Veep debate next Thursday.
September 27, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the VP debate will happen. The cost for trying to cancel/delay another debate would be too high. Plus, Palin's garnered such low expectations that so long as she throws a couple soundbytes out at Biden, she'll hop over the abysmally low bar set for her.
September 27, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know. I really don't. Palin seemed significantly more incoherent with Couric (who was bending over backwards to help her out, if you ask me) than she did with Gibson. She's deteriorating. I really think there's going to be some sort of family emergency that erupts on Wednesday that will force her back to Alaska.
September 27, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't call it - this campaign has been far too bizarre to be anything like predictable.
McLame may think that's cute - I don't think it's terribly reassuring to most people.
September 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, I've run out an ability to forecast chaos, which all they're giving us. More chaos. But how?
September 27, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I'm reading the tea leaves, the McCain campaign is seriously trying to down play the VP debate. Ed Shultz's report seems to me to be too good to be true. That she was disasterous, etc. They want expectations so low such that if she doesn't run off the stage in tears it is a victory for Team McCain.
I say don't believe the pre-debate spin. She's doing fine in debate prep. And given the format change (no free flowing discussion), there is little room for her to veer off message. She's going to do fine.
September 27, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, like everyone always thinks everything is a backwards Rovian plot and there's no way McLame's campaign could stink this badly.
Well sorry, Publica, but McLame's campaign really stinks that badly.
I don't think they are organized enough to play any kind of expectation game.
September 27, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think the lowered expectations are by McCain campaign design. If they had their druthers, their VP wouldn't suck ass. She just has low expectations and if her convention speech managed to hurdle that low bar, her debate performance might, too - especially if the format has been retooled to allow for less back and forth.
September 27, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know. A lot of her answers in that CBS interview weren't much longer than 90s and she still managed to sound pretty incoherent.
September 27, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
True that. I can't believe Obama agreed to change the rules, tho'...
September 27, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
90 second answers
Here's the problem. That means the questions will jump around. Every. Few. Minutes.
Now tell me, do you seriously think this dame's neurons can keep up with a barrage of questions?
Since she cannot predict the order of the question, I swear to God, her nervousness will kick in. Anxiety disrupts short term memory. (so do tranquilizers.. so that's no solution) I think we'll see long pauses.... deer in the headlights eyes. Watch her pupils. They enlarge if a person is scared.
Ok, it has to go forward. Just like last night had to go forward, with mcShame not wanting to be there.
Unless mcShame has a melt-down and tears her to bits!
September 27, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
She'll get the questions before the debate....
September 28, 2008 5:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would guess that Governor Palin will do well in the first half-hour, then deteriorate. She will have memorized enough to get started, but 90 minutes is a long time, especially when half of it is claimed by someone much more experienced. Governor Palin will listen to Senator Biden's responses and try to top them on her next turn. But she won't have enough substance to keep up.
I would compare her chances to a sports team who is going against a much stronger, experienced opponent. They smaller team might get a couple quick, early scores, but over the course of the game (or the debate) they will be worn down by their opponent. Unless Senator Biden has a monumental screw-up, I think the second half of the debate will be disastrous for Governor Palin.
September 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
However the rules are 90 second answers meaning Palin can stay on concise talking points.
Palin will have to be concise; she definitely will be talking; but unless she improves on her previous two interviews, what comes out will be pointless.
September 27, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's demeanor last night will alienate many voters in these four groups:
1. WOMEN: We know what it's like to be dismissed and condescended to.
2:OLDER VOTERS: It was just plain (I keep typing 'palin"!) rude.
3: BLACKS: "We're not good enough to be even looked at??"
4: YOUNG VOTERS: "Experience is all so we are dismissed and our opinion doesn't count."
I'm sure there were more groups that I haven't thought of.
September 27, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I keep typing "plain" when I try to type Palin. :O)
September 27, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
don't forget hispanics!
September 27, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
One other thing about the debate not enough discussed in the punditry:
McCain made it clear, like Dick Cheney, he doesn't care or atleast doesn't have the measure of public opinion.
No one really cares about the "surge," most people even Iraq as a mistake- may be for a different reason than in 06-07. Back then people resisted the war because of increasing death toll and violence and now they desist it because of the economic bankruptcy.
No one really cares what Henry Kissinger really believes, they really don't want another war with Iran and they would like the POTUS to avoid it any cost.
No one really cares about the Cold War era. Most people don't see Russia as a threat and don't want POTUS to intervene and escalate tensions with Russia.
September 27, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain just doesn't get it.
September 27, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question now that McCain lost of his few good opportunities to alter the trend toward Obama, what will his next tactic be?
I'm thinking they're going to try to align McCain with the rebel House GOP against the Bush and the Dems who are trying to jam this bailout down the American's throats, and thereby having to raise everyone's taxes, etc.
September 27, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought they already had. I thought that's how McLame more or less derailed the agreement.
September 27, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. But he could come back and try to bring the GOP House into the fold. But if he leads the revolt, where they pass the bill but you have all these House GOP idiots screaming about how terrible it is, with McCain at the forefront. If he can't be the new Obama, he'll become the new Barr.
September 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Except that he basically expressed his support for the compromise bill at last night's debate. He's stuck. He said he went back to Washington to work with the Dems and Paulson, and if he suddenly becomes the champion of the obstructing house Republicans, it's a massive flip flop and just reinforces the narrative that McCain has no clue how to respond and is just lurching from idea to idea.
No, McCain attached himself to the success of the compromise, and he's stuck with it.
September 27, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
he didn't "basically express his support" for the compromise bill. he was asked point-blank by lehrer whether he would vote for it, and the answer was an unequivocal, "sure." of course, then he quickly veered off into McCrazyland, but the answer couldn't have been clearer.
September 27, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
fast forward to 8:15 of the video. "you're going to vote for the plan?" "sure."
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2008/09/26/debate.entire.part1.cnn
September 27, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
My very favorite was Obama saying, with believable incredulity, that McCain wouldn't even talk to Spain, one of our allies. Even knowing that that is unlikely to be true (I think!), it was a fair dig. McCain wouldn't say during that interview that he'd misunderstood who was being asked about, and later his campaign tried to cover for him by saying he really meant it. Hey, he won't own his mistake, then he'll have to live with it.
Actually, that's a pretty crummy quality for a president. Can you see us going to war because the president is too embarrassed to admit he blew a question in an interview?
September 27, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
And McCain's defense of the Obama charge "I'm not planning my White House Schedule yet and I don't have a seal". Obama didn't schedule a meeting date for crying out loud, he simply said he'd meet with him - it was an incredibly weak moment for McCain.
September 27, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think anyone actually understood that line except for the political junkies. McCain really failed to deliver.
September 27, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. The seal remark was a real dud.
September 27, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it got under McLame's skin finally that Obama kept saying with such conviction and authority: "When I am president, thus and so..."
:)
September 27, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I probably shouldn't admit to this, but I thought he meant seal, as in animal. No wonder it didn't make sense at the time.
September 27, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFLMAO!
Oh dear, I hope the rest of the American electorate was under the same impression, because that would make McNasty seem even McStranger....
September 27, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
McLame is awaiting reports from Alaska on seal DNA before he chooses his own.
September 28, 2008 12:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even if they did not follow the words, they understood the sarcasm.
September 27, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
With the debate, it felt like McCain was still in convention/stump speech mode. He didn't have to endure a long primary like Obama and it felt like he was used to being alone on the stage and being able to share a laugh with his supporters about that kid running against him.
September 27, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you look at his facial expressions when Obama was talking directly to him, it was like McCain was listening to a disembodied voice. That he was alone on stage. And almost always his response had NOTHING to do with the issue being raised or the critique being lobbed his way (the number of times he went to biography was just disconcerting).
September 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I kept telling people last night. If you watched the CNN audience reaction meter, every single time that McCain attacked Obama, the independent voter positives plummeted. The harder McCain attacked Obama, the further they plummeted. The Republicans, of course, loved it. But was McCain trying to appeal to Republicans? I think if he was, it's a mistake. But I don't think he was, so he failed. Miserably.
September 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I noticed that too.
September 27, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/cartoon/2008-09/42592798.jpg
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/america-you-watched-the-presid.php
September 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Janus McCain looks like a Seuss beast in that drawing.
September 27, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe Klein channels the commenters at Election Central:
September 27, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the quote CT Voter. I will refer to the VP debate as the Biden Palin Festivities from here on out. That sound much more like what will happen than debate - at least where I will be!!
September 27, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"It's the economy, stupid" still applies. Thus Obama's negative ad is MUCH BETTER than McCain's. People don't believe so much that Obama didn't fund the troops. However, more and more people are believing that McCain doesn't care about the middle class.
People are REALLY angry about this "bail out" bill so I just do not see why McCain is in DC trying to champion this bill.
September 27, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Especially, when much of the undecideds think you're lying attacking horse shit your negative ads are not noted with any seriousness.
September 27, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention the right flank left open for to detail McCain's dismal record on funding the troops and disabled veterans. His ratings with the groups that advocate on those issues are in the toilet.
September 27, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain was arguing to losing positions last night - the Iraq War that the majority of Americans want over and earmarks, which the majority of Americans don't think are nearly as evil as McCain believes them to be. Most folks see earmark money helping out their communities in one way or another.
September 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
After reading through the many of the comments here and there, I think my 10 year old son said it best:
McCain just seemed like a rude, angry man and Obama was polite and answered the questions.
For the average voter, I think this is the impression that will stick.
September 27, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should post a blog about your son's comment. I think that really boils down this race for the majority of people. They are tired of anger being submitted in place of reasoned answers.
September 27, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think your son is very perspicacious indeed. That does just about say it all.
:)
September 27, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
"perspicacious" is his new favorite word, along with "pundit."
oh boy.
September 27, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As the famous book said: Every thing you need in life, you learn in kindergarten.
Kids know what's fair.
September 27, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad 10 year olds can't vote.
September 27, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. We would have a more sane govt. if they could.;)
September 27, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know this may seem minor, but I was really distracted by McCain's tie. The stripes did that weird wavy thing on the TV. We have an HD TV, but we don't have HD cable, so maybe that made it worse. I don't know. But I thought it was stagecraft 101 that you don't wear narrow stripes on TV.
September 27, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's how weird I am: I figured he wore it on purpose because it would attract attention away from his face
September 27, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!!
September 27, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
One telling little detail from yesterday, before the debate. The RNC announced it is spending 4 million on ads in Indiana.
September 27, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go Hoosiers! Make them drain their resources here, and not PA or FL or NC or VA or Co or NM or NV or NH.
September 27, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
About the bailout thing, I confess to not being well informed on wall street, bailouts, and the like so I guess you can call me a low-info voter on that. So take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt.
Americans hate the bailout right? Well I guess it depends on who you talk to. It seems to me that if you are one of the Americans whose retirment funds are intertwined with the markets, then if the market fails, then ur retirement is essentially wiped out right? So if that's the case, I would think that retirees would be the ones who really want the bailout, to "keep the markets going?"
On the other hand, if you are not of retirment age, and you are middle class or lower, then you would probably see the bailout as a copt-out to Washington fatcats, and people who "got themselves into this mess". So you would I guess oppose the bailout.
I honestly think that the average voter is more fickle than we think. Yes they may hate the thought of a bailout, but I would place a bet (based on purely antecdotal(?)evidence) that they would hate it more if nothing is done, and more banks like WaMu go under. Because while the FDIC(?) says that the personal funds of WaMu customers are insured, how much money could the FDIC really match if there are more banks/financial institutions go belly-up. How soon after that would people be running to withdraw their funds from the respective banks (BTW, I already know of a few friends of mind who are already comtemplating taking their money from WaMu)
Anyway, I'm probably wrong about this since like McCain, I don't really understand the economy, but this is how it seems to me anyway.
September 27, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I keep thinking of what "Captain Phil" said about crab fishing on the Bering Sea .....
"If something goes wrong on one of these boats, you're in trouble. If something else goes wrong at the same time, you're in deep trouble."
September 27, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
We're gonna need a bigger boat.
September 27, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack Obama makes me so happy. I love this guy! What a great on point ad; dignity and intellect in our toughest hour.
I LOVE BARACK OBAMA!! :)
September 27, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
one other thing i learned from this debate: the location of the gates of hell. apparently, they are at the afghan/pakistani border.
mccain said that he would follow bin laden "to the gates of hell." he didn't say he'd follow bin laden THROUGH those gates. so given that he appears not to want to step foot over the afghan/pakistani border to get bin laden if we have the chance (and if the pakistanis won't help), i guess we can mark that location as the gates of hell. i'm marking it on my GPS.
September 27, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The above is the leas of McCains problems. Seems that Johnny Crash has been helping his gambling PALS.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/mccains-gambling-problem_n_129937.html
September 27, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sunday Morning at Meet the Press, Bill Clinton: "Most undecided independents like McCain-Palin."
Is he out of his mind?
September 28, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have lost all respect for bc. Had a wierd thought: palin drops out, mcky chooses hc as his new running mate. Only reason I can imagine for bill's strange behavior.
September 28, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink