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Election Central Morning Roundup

AP Calls Out Falsehoods In McCain's New Ad
The Associated Press did a fact-check on the McCain campaign's new ad that claims Barack Obama wants to teach kindergartners about sex before they can read. "But the legislation was not Obama's, it never became law and it would have required age-appropriate information in schools," the AP says, citing Obama's statements defining age-appropriate information as teaching children to avoid predators.

Obama In Virginia, And On Letterman
Barack Obama is campaigning this morning in Norfolk, Virginia, and will then be heading off to New York for an appearance on the David Letterman show. Meanwhile, Joe Biden is campaigning in Nashua, New Hampshire, trying to hold on to a state that voted narrowly for John Kerry in 2004 but where John McCain always been popular.

McCain And Palin In Virginia Today
John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning today in Fairfax, Virginia, a suburban area where the local Democratic shift has done a lot to turn this whole red state bluer and bluer. Later on, Palin will be flying home to Alaska for a homecoming rally.

Biden To Do Debate Prep With Jennifer Granholm
Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm will be helping Joe Biden prepare for his debate with Sarah Palin, playing the role of Palin in their debate practice. Like Palin herself, Granholm is a female governor who overcame questions about inexperience in her own past campaigns.

Some Dems Worrying About McCain's Bump In The Polls
The Hill reports that some Congressional Democrats are worried about John McCain's bounce in the polls. "That's all people have talked about since we got back," said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri. "I received a phone call from an Obama fundraiser who said we're going to have to go back and revisit the strategy."

Palin Still Sticking To The Script
It's been a week and a half since Sarah Palin was picked to be John McCain's running mate, and she's still sticking to the script on the campaign trail. The Associated Press notes that Palin has only been repeating the same talking points from her convention speech, and has not taken any questions "until she's comfortable enough for a hand-picked interviewer later this week."

WaPo's Dionne: McCain Shamelessly Lying
More mainstream media figures are catching on to John McCain's campaign style. "This is not false naivete," E.J. Dionne writes for the Washington Post. "I am genuinely surprised that John McCain and his campaign keep throwing out false charges and making false claims without any qualms."


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Let's hope the McCain Lying Theme has stuck with reporters, and that anything he says from now on will at LEAST be questioned for its accuracy.

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For the first time, McCain is having his honor questioned by both Obama and the media. I don't understand why it's even a question since we know the answer: he has none!

But this is one thing McCain can't stand. Despite running an ethically bankrupt campaign, he thinks he's a walking paragon of virtue. This will make him angry and get defensive. Good. I want to see McCain explode.

ROTFLMAO! He's a maverick, what you talking bout, oops don't forget he's a POW too, and thus can NOT tell a lie.

It has and it will and there is nowhere for her to go but down. Sounds like Al Giordano at "The Field" thinks the GOP internal polling is not showing the bump that the more consumer oriented polling is showing. I think the GOP is still running scared.

Good point. And here's a Huffington Post article saying the same thing about the polls. They're not showing enough of a Dem advantage in party identification.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/09/poll-madness-mccain-takes_n_125158.html

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My purely subjective take from making the rounds of comment sections of various political sites is that McCain has only shored up the arch-conservative evangelicals. I rarely see embittered Clinton supporters or independents arguing for the McCain-Palin ticket, and these are the exact people McCain needs to win.

Of course McCain and the GOP have been lying shamelessly for eons and no one seems to call them on it; a fact that leads to the generalisation that the average american is shamefully naive at best and embarrasingly and wilfully ignorant at worst. The righ wing media's coverage of the election has been a shameful indictment of the lowest of the low point of the state of media in this cover. Sad, pathetic.

I meant to say,..in this country!

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Could someone with extensive biblical knowledge please chime in here on where in the bible it tells Sarah to lie?

I would honestly like this woman challenged on her so called "faith" - because it sure is not showing!

She's a one trick pony. Repeating lies.

To me that is the most disgusting and disgraceful part of this. Lying and Slander are not virtues.

Maybe that should be the slogan. Lying is not a virtue, Sarah!

A few quotes from bible-topics.com:

Genesis 18:15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid. And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.

Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

and perhaps most fitting:
Colossians 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

You forgot Isaiah 46:4 :

"And the lord sayeth, he who was a POW is free from all wickedness."

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All of you should read Matthew 7:3 "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"

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Psalm 64 2-6
Hide me from the malicious crowd, the mob of evildoers.
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They sharpen their tongues like swords, ready their bows for arrows of poison words.
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2 They shoot at the innocent from ambush, shoot without risk, catch them unawares.
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They resolve on their wicked plan; they conspire to set snares; they say: "Who will see us?"
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They devise wicked schemes, conceal the schemes they devise; the designs of their hearts are hidden.
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ROTFLMAO; I am collecting all the gems I see on the web. This is freakin' funnee ... yours has been added.


“The Truth is Irrelevant – Palin/McLame 08”

“Palin and simple – Sarah is a LIAR!”

“Palin is proving to be the Mayor of Liarsville and the Govenor from the State of Deception”

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How about the 9th commandment, from Exodus:

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."

It was on God's Top Ten list.

PEACE

Are they going to let Palin campaign on her own ever or are they worried her crowds will dwarf McCain's?

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Or that his will dwindle again if she's not with him.

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The new polls out of NC should be fixed. They are not SurveyUSA. They're from PPP.

Also, I don't understand all of the panicking about the new poll numbers. This isn't a Palin bump. It's a convention bump. Tuesday after the convention represents the high point of the McCain bump and the best he can do is tie Obama? That's not good folks. By next week, McCain will be 3-4 points behind again. Keep the faith!

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Keep those biased polls coming! They only serve to energize The Base. Obama's base, that is.

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Every time it seems a Repugnut politician or campaign can't go any lower, it does. I thought we hit rock bottom with Willie Horton. But what did I know? We moved on to lying about the Iraq War, Swift Boating, and now McShame breaking new barriers in lying and sleaze. If we don't stop this NOW, the future of our democracy will be permanently fucked.

PPP has proved that SurveyUSA poll in NC was nothing but an outlier.

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I got an email from Bev Perdue (governor) last night saying that their polling showed her up 7 points over the republican. The SUSA poll showed her way behind, the only poll this year to have such a result. I definitely think the SUSA polling was bad for all of the democrats because they had the sample wrong with way too many republicans.

Well looks like that NC poll from yesterday was a complete crock. Ok on the panic mode the MSM seems to be focused on I have one thing that really bugs me about the reasoning. This despicable ad has a huge chance of blosback in fact its has far more risk than reward. So if all the mo is with Mccain then why are they lying through their teeth and making desperate ads? Something tells all this panic meme is BS. Mccain despite all the poll evidence to the contrary is still in trouble at state level thus the tactics from the sty policy.

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Obama needs to directly challenge John McCain's integrity and McCain's honor as to the sleaze and dishonesty emanating from McCain;s campaign.

Enough....enough.

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Palin repeating the same lines is becoming a bit of a joke: I can't remember who said it but some big name conservative talker asked: is there anything else in the tank? Two more weeks and the bloom will be off the rose. Palin will be very pale indeed!

CNN political page main headline is: "Palin backed 'bridge to nowhere,' then opposed it"

Well, that's a start...

"Kept the money" should be mentioned in the headline too

Damn straight, it should!

Someone should ask the question "Do we really want a President who repeatedly lies to the American people even after being confronted with the truth?" Petulance intransigence and lies have been the backbone of the current administration. In the immortal words of Dr. Phil "And how's that been workin' out for ya?" for the last 8 years.

I'm laughing my ass off that Biden is preparing for the debate opposite Jennifer Granholm.

That's a great choice, and I think it reveals that the Obama campaign understands exactly where the risks lie for Biden in this debate.

Yes, Granholm is a female governor. But more specifically, she's a babe governor. Against that kind of opponent, Biden is going to be tempted to flirt, or condescend, or pull punches, or show off his own knowledge -- and he better get it all out of his system!!

LOL. And everybody was so worried Bill Clinton would be a liability for VP Hillary.

..shady dealing post presidency, donors to the the Clinton Library. That still holds up. LOL

He would have been.

He still would have been.

Yeah, and she's a hosehead too. I mean, Canada's next to Alaska, isn't it?

Right. He's got to brace himself for those naive-sounding vowels.

SNL starts back up this coming weekend. I can't wait for the opening skit. If Kristen Wiig isn't in it, I'll eat a $20 bill -- or more likely, donate it to Obama.

Kristen Wiig is the perfect Sarah Palin.

We should start organizing huge crowds to show up outside McCain events and protest the lying and lack of honor and integrity. Big signs calling them liars, etc. Maybe it would turn into a media story.

I like that.

Moi aussi!

The "worried" Congressional Democrats are cordially invited to bite me. Just what have they done to HELP?

Right on!

The Congressional Democrats have been coasting on the Republicans' low polling numbers, assuming it would be a slam dunk. They're doing nothing and they're not engaged enough to know what Obama's doing.

I trust Obama's strategy because I don't believe that his work building his volunteer base is showing in the polls. It's a risk, but it might work. In any event, he'll own almost nothing to Congress.

Rasmussen:

Mon O47 M48
Tues O48 M48
Wed O48, M47

Let's hope we're looking at the peak of a curve.

It seems pretty clear that Obama campaign needs to define McCain-Palin for what they are - a couple of cynical liars. Otherwise they are risking a defeat by Willie Horton ads. Refuting these ads one-by-one won't work, they need to discredit the source.

Let's assume the Obama campaign understands that. It follows that either they are formulating a response, or counting on McCain-Palin to discredit themselves. In a week or two, we should see either a set of 'Liars' ads, or a collapsed McCain campaign.

Donate, wait and see... and hope.

I am liking this "McCain is a liar" narrative, it is one we can make stick and it can undermind McCain's entire message. Let's keep that one up folks.

"Liars have no honor" is a good line. I am not being sycophantic of Josh M., he just had that in the middle of one of his ascerbic comments, but the works nicely as a stand alone, I think.

Yep. It's a good line.

McCain is actually worse than Bush, who never pretended to be "honorable". McCain managed to keep up this fraud for decades, all the while betraying people and cheating and lying, like his first wife, the Keating Five.

I think most of the press corp should be ashamed for giving hthis sleazy ruthless moron a free pass all this time. So wipe that BBQ off your fingers and start telling the truth about John McCain, the Big Phony!


Oh, and word to the wise, Palindrone is a headfake. McCain should be ther real target. No matter what the GOP cheerleaders pretend, nobody botes VP. McCain wants us to focus on the sideshow while he acts "presidential" and "above the fray". The fact is, no matter how much we discredit Palin, it won't hurt John McCain!!

Women who are for Palin are like African Americans who were for Clarence Thomas.

There weren't many of the latter. I guess they'd seen it before.

Not these women. "It's time to see a woman up there, and men, you're gonna have to get out of the way!" -- that's the same kind of shit that could have been easily said about Clarence. But not many African Americans did, to their great credit.

Look, up in the sky....it's a bird, it's a plane...it's.....

THE PALIN TRUTH SQUAD!!!

"...a coalition of state and local politicians dubbed the Palin Truth Squad has been created by the McCain campaign to, in their words, "set the record straight."

http://tinyurl.com/5jtfp4

When will the repugs split up and campaign separately? Will any crowds show up for McCain? That's why he wants her with him. She's his prop for drawing out the crowds.

On the one hand, the weirder question is why anybody would care what she has to say.

But there is a certain kind of really dumb person out there, and you put enough of them out there and you've got a big crowd, a sort of numbskull coalition. I think of Roswell, New Mexico a lot in this connection.

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How about the 9th commandment, from Exodus:

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."

It was on God's Top Ten list.

PEACE

I don't understand how sex-ed is corrupting. Sex ed at my old school was conducted by the gym teacher and he spent the whole time trying to scare the crap out of us with stories about STD's and pregnancy.

Ad proposals.

"Eight years of lying, and where have they got us? The wrong war and well along the road to economic ruin. Now we have McCain and Palin lying their heads off. (Insert litany of lies here). Four more years of lies? I guess that's what they mean by "maverick." (Visual of fingers doing scare quotes.)

Or how about this. A perplexed kid asks, "Mom, what does this mean?" He pronounces "mav-er-ick" slowly (slightly stressing "ick") while awkwardly making scare quotes with his fingers. The mother gently pulls down the kid's hands. "Honey, I think it means a liar, and you shouldn't be using that word, okay?"

Or how about this. People sitting in a room talking about the Republican campaign. They offer a litany of the ills and griefs of the past eight years of Buch/Cheney. After each item (war, joblessness, foreclosures, etc) the person utters "maverick" with a grimace as the others knowingly and sadly nod their heads. Ad ends with close-up of hands doing scare quotes with the voice over: "McCain/Palin: four more years of...maverick politics."

Okay, almost anyone else can do better. The point is, McCain/Palin have to be stripped of the word "maverick", and the way to do that (it seems to me) is to dirty the word until it begins to hurt. "Maverick" has to be made to equal "liar" -- or something equally odious.

I suppose it's a sign of desperation when total amateurs like me are trying to design an Obama ad campaign.

Halperin now featuring a series of quotes from "worried Dems" (Panetta, etc.) at top of the page. Why the hell can't Dem "strategists" and elected just SHUT THE HELL UP? What is this constant need to bare one's soul to the media? And why are they such wusses? It reflects on the campaign and the entire party. We are in this to win this and the whiners need to buck up and shut the **ck up!

sorry for the rant.

The Vietnamese "broke" John McCain, and he is still broken.

Get this pitiful old wreck off stage.

At long last, sir, have you no decency?

That's another problem we have, along with the lying rethugs, a feckless press that won't hold them accountable--and worthless congressional Dems who do NOT know how to keep their mouths shut. Every time there's a challenge, there's some half-wit Dem fully opening his or her mouth.

They don't speak up when we need their voices, and they can't shut up when we don't. Geeze...

That's another problem we have, along with the lying rethugs, a feckless press that won't hold them accountable--and worthless congressional Dems who do NOT know how to keep their mouths shut. Every time there's a challenge, there's some half-wit Dem fully opening his or her mouth.

They don't speak up when we need their voices, and they can't shut up when we don't. Geeze...

I think it's become personal for Obama because of McFreak's last ad. Ob has always been willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but now McFreak's fat, clammy little fingers have touched his kids.

I predict that Ob will kick up the intensity now if for no other reason than to put this sleaze bag in his place.

I think it's become personal for Obama because of McFreak's last ad. Ob has always been willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but now McFreak's fat, clammy little fingers have touched his kids.

I predict that Ob will kick up the intensity now if for no other reason than to put this sleaze bag in his place.

I'm glad to see E.J. Dionne speaking out, but he cites his paper's front-page story as a welcome acknowledgment of the campaign falsehoods. But it is part of the problem. This is another falsely balanced "analysis" that suggests that both sides are equally to blame.

"As for exaggerations, Obama said yesterday that he had supported a measure in the Illinois Senate to double the number of charter schools in Chicago. In fact, he was one of 14 state senators co-sponsoring a non-controversial measure that passed unanimously." In fact? How does that contradict the assertion? Did he support the measure or not? Yes, he did.

"A McCain quote Obama has often used -- that the economy is fundamentally sound -- is months old. Since he said that, McCain has said almost daily that the economy is struggling." Yes, McCain has finally been forced to acknowledge that people are hurting, but has he really changed his position? See his convention speech.

The McCain campaign knows that it will get away with outrageous lies (like the sex ed ad) and insistent contradictions of established facts (like Palin's support for the bridge and other earmarks) because it knows that the press will present them in the context of falsely-balanced articles that suggest that both sides exaggerate or stretch the truth.

There is no comparison between Obama's sound bites and McCain's blatantly false assertions.

Yesterday CNN did yet another analysis of the Bridge to Nowhere that suggested that it was a controversy, that both sides claimed to be right, as if there were not demonstrable facts involved.

The press also falls for the false, distracting stories, like the "pig" quote. Every story about this fake issue is a victory for the McCain manipulation of the press, which would never show such deference to the Democrats.


An American Tragedy

John McCain has fallen from grace through his own vain desire to become president. As James Vega said:

In the 2000 presidential race the Bush campaign – led by Karl Rove – viciously attacked John McCain’s wife and child – they said his wife was a drug addict and that the child he and his wife adopted from an orphanage was actually his illegitimate Black daughter. On election night, his wife was in tears.
Back then, McCain was disgusted. He said there was “a special place in hell” for rumormongers like these people. He made a promise to his family and to his supporters that he would never run a dirty campaign like that. Never.
But early this year John McCain hired Charlie Condon, the very same man who was behind those vicious smears to run his South Carolina campaign. And then several weeks ago he brought Steven Schmidt - leading protégé of Karl Rove and master of the political hit job - on board to be his campaign manager and write the talking points for the new negative campaign against Barak Obama.
It’s sad to watch, McCain’s willingness to humiliate himself by hiring the same gang of people who horribly insulted him and his family. It shows that he has become so desperate to win this election that he is willing to sacrifice his principles and his personal honor in order to do it
Let’s face it. A real man would have said to those people – “Get the hell out of my office before I throw you out” the minute they walked in. A person would not have to be a tough guy like John Wayne to say that. A gentle, decent man of character would have told them the same thing.
But what did John McCain say about Bush’s dirty politics gang?
He said: “I had to get over it … it was a long time ago”

And now John McCain is trying to score political points by taking an effort to protect our youngest children from sexual predators and bearing false witness against Barak Obama by twisting it into a claim that Obama was advocating sex education to kindergarteners.

I am sorry for John McCain. I though he had more moral strength. He has my prayers and my pity.


An American Tragedy

John McCain has fallen from grace through his own vain desire to become president. As James Vega said:

In the 2000 presidential race the Bush campaign – led by Karl Rove – viciously attacked John McCain’s wife and child – they said his wife was a drug addict and that the child he and his wife adopted from an orphanage was actually his illegitimate Black daughter. On election night, his wife was in tears.
Back then, McCain was disgusted. He said there was “a special place in hell” for rumormongers like these people. He made a promise to his family and to his supporters that he would never run a dirty campaign like that. Never.
But early this year John McCain hired Charlie Condon, the very same man who was behind those vicious smears to run his South Carolina campaign. And then several weeks ago he brought Steven Schmidt - leading protégé of Karl Rove and master of the political hit job - on board to be his campaign manager and write the talking points for the new negative campaign against Barak Obama.
It’s sad to watch, McCain’s willingness to humiliate himself by hiring the same gang of people who horribly insulted him and his family. It shows that he has become so desperate to win this election that he is willing to sacrifice his principles and his personal honor in order to do it
Let’s face it. A real man would have said to those people – “Get the hell out of my office before I throw you out” the minute they walked in. A person would not have to be a tough guy like John Wayne to say that. A gentle, decent man of character would have told them the same thing.
But what did John McCain say about Bush’s dirty politics gang?
He said: “I had to get over it … it was a long time ago”

And now John McCain is trying to score political points by taking an effort to protect our youngest children from sexual predators and bearing false witness against Barak Obama by twisting it into a claim that Obama was advocating sex education to kindergarteners.

I am sorry for John McCain. I though he had more moral strength. He has my prayers and my pity.

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McCAIN'S GONNA WIN, McCAIN'S GONNA WIN...JUST ASK JOSH MARSHALL, OR KURTZ. IT'S SAMCK DOWN WRESTLING AND THIS HANDICAPPED OLD MAN IS GONNA WIN.

The polls really are accurate(they can mention the comparison with electoral count but not with how these polls are arrived out leaving out that modern day invention THE CELL PHONE) How many polls included cell phone interviews=none. How many actual voters use cell phones exclusively= unknown but the majority of them are voting for Obama. (Remember all the protesters arrested outside the RNC...they have many friends). I get tired of all the fear mongering on this site about how Obama is going to lose. With the corruption spread throughout the media and all government agencies we are expected that the polls have been untouched and are devoid of any corrupt input...especially sisnce we now have the proof that the '04 election was stolen...but the polls are right on....to which I say bullshit. Obama will win in a landslide...these polls are a set up so we will believe it whne they try to steal it ("duh, well it was a close race so I guess it's possible that the same majority who rejected the Bush administration decided they would go ahead and continue it with McCain")

Rally around Obama and be proud of our candidate doing whatever you can to make sure he wins...but stop threatening his loss unless he does what you think he ought to be doing. I believe that voters heard the repubs bragging about cheating and lying to win the election by duping the American voters...and they resent being tricked and laughed at. I believe the majority will not be so easily duped this time.
btw...why has Bush, Cheney, Iraq, Iran, Torture,spying,and corruption at the DoJ been dropped from media coverage the last 6wks. Repubs are trying to make it all seem like Bush never happened. Look at this site...when was the last time any of this was mentioned here. Seems TPM as been bagged with a republican agenda...forget the issues and the reality of our current disaster and focus on the smack down huh?

Obama is not the ONE...he is the RIGHT ONE...at the right time to end this republican disaster.

Obama is the answer to our prayer for change (maybe that's why, in spite of some praying for his acceptance speech to be rained out, God made sure it was beautiful weather for Obama's speech but sent a Hurricane to disrupt the republican convention...if you believe such things).
Obama represents us...McCain represents himself.

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McCAIN'S GONNA WIN, McCAIN'S GONNA WIN...JUST ASK JOSH MARSHALL, OR KURTZ. IT'S SAMCK DOWN WRESTLING AND THIS HANDICAPPED OLD MAN IS GONNA WIN.

The polls really are accurate(they can mention the comparison with electoral count but not with how these polls are arrived out leaving out that modern day invention THE CELL PHONE) How many polls included cell phone interviews=none. How many actual voters use cell phones exclusively= unknown but the majority of them are voting for Obama. (Remember all the protesters arrested outside the RNC...they have many friends). I get tired of all the fear mongering on this site about how Obama is going to lose. With the corruption spread throughout the media and all government agencies we are expected that the polls have been untouched and are devoid of any corrupt input...especially sisnce we now have the proof that the '04 election was stolen...but the polls are right on....to which I say bullshit. Obama will win in a landslide...these polls are a set up so we will believe it whne they try to steal it ("duh, well it was a close race so I guess it's possible that the same majority who rejected the Bush administration decided they would go ahead and continue it with McCain")

Rally around Obama and be proud of our candidate doing whatever you can to make sure he wins...but stop threatening his loss unless he does what you think he ought to be doing. I believe that voters heard the repubs bragging about cheating and lying to win the election by duping the American voters...and they resent being tricked and laughed at. I believe the majority will not be so easily duped this time.
btw...why has Bush, Cheney, Iraq, Iran, Torture,spying,and corruption at the DoJ been dropped from media coverage the last 6wks. Repubs are trying to make it all seem like Bush never happened. Look at this site...when was the last time any of this was mentioned here. Seems TPM as been bagged with a republican agenda...forget the issues and the reality of our current disaster and focus on the smack down huh?

Obama is not the ONE...he is the RIGHT ONE...at the right time to end this republican disaster.

Obama is the answer to our prayer for change (maybe that's why, in spite of some praying for his acceptance speech to be rained out, God made sure it was beautiful weather for Obama's speech but sent a Hurricane to disrupt the republican convention...if you believe such things).
Obama represents us...McCain represents himself.

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