Election Central Morning Roundup
GOP Congressman: Calling Obama "Uppity" Wasn't Racist
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, a Georgia Republican, released the following statement in defense of his having called Barack Obama "uppity": "I've never heard that term used in a racially derogatory sense. It is important to note that the dictionary definition of 'uppity' is 'affecting an air of inflated self-esteem --- snobbish.' That's what we meant by uppity when we used it in the mill village where I grew up."
Democratic Ticket In Pennsylvania Today
Barack Obama and Joe Biden are separately campaigning today in Pennsylvania, a big swing state that they must retain in the Dem column if they are to win the election. Obama will be talking about the economy at 10 a.m. ET in Duryea, while Biden will be Ironworkers Local Union in Philadelphia at 10:15 a.m. ET and then campaigning in Langhorne at 2 p.m. ET.
McCain And Palin In Michigan And Wisconsin
John McCain and Sarah Palin are campaigning today in Wisconsin and Michigan, courting two swing states that have voted for the Democrats by very narrow margins in the past two elections. They have a meet and greet scheduled for 12 p.m. ET in Cedarburg, Wisconsin, and a rally at 6 p.m. ET in Sterling Heights, Michigan.
Palin Cramming On Foreign Policy -- With Lieberman
The Washington Post reports that Sarah Palin is taking a crash course in foreign policy in preparation for her debate with Joe Biden. In a sign of things to come, one of her top tutors is none other than Joe Lieberman.
Poll: Palin Viewed Favorably, But As Lacking Necessary Experience
A new ABC News poll has some good news and bad news for Sarah Palin. The good news is that she has a solid 50% favorable rating in the wake of her speech Wednesday night -- but she also gets 50% saying she does not have the right experience to step in as president, compared to 66% who say Joe Biden has the right experience.
Poll: McCain Way Ahead In Alaska, Thanks To Palin
A new survey from Alaska pollster Ivan Moore shows that John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin is helping him to easily retain this state for the Republicans. McCain leads Barack Obama by a 54%-35% margin, after previous polls had shown a much closer race.
Wilson Sisters Of Heart To McCain Camp: Cease And Desist
The McCain campaign's decision to play the classic rock song "Barracuda" at their convention last night, in honor of Sarah Palin's nickname in high school, has earned them a cease and desist letter from the band Heart, who strongly object to McCain's politics. The McCain campaign has previously gotten in trouble for using songs from Jackson Browne and even Congressman John Hall, a liberal Democrat and former rock musician supporting Barack Obama.
Well, he secured Alaska. I guess it was worth it.
September 5, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we'll need to throw in the towel on those three electoral votes...
PEACE
September 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
There goes the election!!
September 5, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Until Obama's Fairbanks rally!
September 5, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
When is the VP debate again?
September 5, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oct. 15th...I can't waiT.
September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you do, you'll have missed it. The dates for the debates are as follows:
Prexy 1: 9/26
VP: 10/2
Prexy 2: 10/7
Prexy 3: 10/15
September 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Check...thanks
September 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi sfcwallace:
Couple of questions, convert us.
1. What has mccain, the king's crown prince, or palin, rambo of the north, done to warrant the label "maverick"?
2. What has he or she done to warrant the label "reformer"?
Thanks in advance.
September 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for reminding me. You still never got back to me about the sexist John Edwards questions.
September 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I did...you just didn't recheck the thread. Edwards and Biden were treated as heros for "soldiering on" in the face of family tragedy. Palin's questioned about whether she'll have time to tend to the children.
1) True progressives realize that a father is capable with assisting in tending the children.
2) Bill Clinton had plenty of extra time to "tend" to Monica, I'm sure Mrs. Palin, with the help of her husband, will have the time to tend to her children.
September 5, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok link man. Give us a link for this one:
Palin's questioned about whether she'll have time to tend to the children.
That's a complete fabrication. Who questioned her? She hasn't given a f'n interview yet, so how can she be questioned? Pathetic.
Also, now we're circling back to the clintons? Too funny.
September 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
"When the phone rings at three in the morning and one of her children is really sick what choice will she make?"
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sally_quinn/2008/08/sarah_polin.html
September 5, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
And, as I pointed out yesterday several times, very similar things were asked of John Edwards.
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/bookman/
September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
...yeah, Rush Limbaugh...google ""The campaign goes on, the campaign goes on strongly" there are 1237 stories about the Edwards campaign "soldiering on" Rush Limbaugh didn't agree.
September 5, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
...yeah, Rush Limbaugh...google ""The campaign goes on, the campaign goes on strongly" there are 1237 stories about the Edwards campaign "soldiering on" Rush Limbaugh didn't agree.
September 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
"The campaign goes on, the campaign goes on strongly"
Ummm, Edwards himself said that.
September 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
"The campaign goes on, the campaign goes on strongly"
Ummm, Edwards himself said that.
September 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
good...now click on those stories and find someone besides Rush Limbaugh that says that's a bad thing.
September 5, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Katie Couric and Jay Carney.
Try actually reading my posts and following the links.
September 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nowhere do they question his capacity to fulfill the duties of his office based on his family situation...try staying on point.
September 5, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nowhere do they question his capacity to fulfill the duties of his office based on his family situation...try staying on point.
September 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
False. They both clearly did that.
"Even those who may be very empathetic to what you all are facing might question your ability to run the country at the same time you’re dealing with a major health crisis in your family,' Couric told Edwards."
"And in Time magazine, columnist Jay Carney wrote that “surely many average Americans have to be wondering at what point the candidate will decide that his duties as husband and father to three children, including a 6- and 8-year-old, trump his duty to his country and the cause of winning the White House.”
September 5, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Katie Couric and Jay Carney.
Try actually reading my posts and following the links.
September 5, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
1. Was that a question to palin? Nope.
2. That was an op-ed piece written by a woman. You got a problem with that? I guess women aren’t entitled to their opinions. Oh, that's right according to you guys, from the same op-ed:
"A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation."
Or, how about the entire context of your cherry picking:
"She has no national political experience, especially in the area of foreign policy. That fact that she is not of Washington also will be difficult for her. Barbara Bush once told me that her husband had been a congressman, UN ambassador, ambassador to China, and head of the CIA and they thought they were prepared for the vice presidency (under President Reagan). But she said nothing can prepare you for the criticism and scrutiny of being in the White House. Sarah Palin is not prepared for that.
Is she prepared for the all-consuming nature of the job? She is the mother of five children, one of them a four-month-old with Down Syndrome. Her first priority has to be her children. When the phone rings at three in the morning and one of her children is really sick what choice will she make? I'm the mother of only one child, a special needs child who is grown now. I know how much of my time and energy I devoted to his care. He always had to be my first priority. Of course women can be good mothers and have careers at the same time. I've done both. Yes, other women in public office have children. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has five children, but she didn't get heavily involved in politics until they were older. A mother's role is different from a father's.
These are dangerous and trying times for the entire world. This is no time to to play gender politics. The stakes are too high. And given McCain's age and history of health issues, the stakes for choosing a qualified vice presidential candidate have never been higher."
Still waiting on a response to why your team are mavericks and reformers. Thanks.
September 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, you misunderstood Palin's ability is being questioned, that's what I asserted when I said Palin's being questioned" in that specific case.
September 5, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
And? One line in one op-ed piece from a woman? But everyone on the left is questioning her as a mother and questioning her pregnancy and blah, blah, blah.
By the way, what factual basis do you have to assert that your team are mavericks and reformers? The silence is deafening.
September 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sally Quinn at WAPO. The equivalent question for Biden would have been why didn't he shelve his political ambitions and take a job closer to home so that he could spend more time with his young injured motherless children.
September 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I've stayed away from this "she should be at home with her kids" thing, but I gotta say this:
There's something that doesn't jibe about almost breaking your arm patting yourself on the back for "choosing life" for your 4 month old special needs child to underline your "pro-life" cred, and then 4 months after the birth "choosing to do something other than attending to his needs". I guess for me it just underlines the hypocrisy of pretty much everyone in the "pro-life" movement, who have a lot of concern about making sure every fertilized egg is carried to full term, but don't give a damn about the kids once they are here.
September 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's probably because if you were in her situation you would never be able to rely on others as she can. It's funny how pro-choice is often turned into anti-birth.
September 5, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Lalo, I would never find myself in her situation because I'm not an avowed "pro-lifer".
I want to clarify: I'm not suggesting that there is anything wrong with the mother of a special needs child working, even in a stressful or powerful position. What I find unseemly is the use of a child as a political prop to "prove" your cred, particularly when your commitment to said child is not so all-consuming that you would choose putting your time into attending to his needs ahead of your political ambitions. There's the rub, as I see it. Giving birth to a special needs child is not in and of itself heroic. Caring for one is a different story. And I don't have any doubt that should the unthinkable happen and this ill-suited woman become our vice-president, she'll be spending very little time with that child that she touts as proof of her sacrifice to her unshakable principle of the value of life.
September 5, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well said.
September 5, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
again, would the same thing be asked of a pro-life father of a special needs child? Her husband can't care for the kids?
September 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Still waiting on a response to why your team are mavericks and reformers. Thanks.
September 5, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is Todd Palin really a hands-on, stay at home, Mr. Mom kinda dad? I thought his passion was for snow mobiling, hunting, and fishing. It's kinda hard to do all that with 4 or 5 kids (and a grandkid) in tow.
September 5, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I've stayed away from this "she should be at home with her kids" thing, but I gotta say this:
There's something that doesn't jibe about almost breaking your arm patting yourself on the back for "choosing life" for your 4 month old special needs child to underline your "pro-life" cred, and then 4 months after the birth "choosing to do something other than attending to his needs". I guess for me it just underlines the hypocrisy of pretty much everyone in the "pro-life" movement, who have a lot of concern about making sure every fertilized egg is carried to full term, but don't give a damn about the kids once they are here.
September 5, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've tried to keep my mouth shut about this, but as the mom of 2 special needs kids, I couldn't agree with you more. It is time and labor intensive. Early intervention is critical for future success in school and in life. Under IDEA, your child can qualify for some pretty crucial services, but only when they turn 3. In the meantime, the parents are the only advocates.
I don't see this just as a shortcoming on Sarah Palin's part, though, except to say breastfeeding's best. What the heck is Dad doing?
September 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
When he's not sacrificing his kids - er, I mean, posing with his kids, he's probably out there rounding up more moosemeat for maw and the yungins...
September 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
When he's not sacrificing his kids - er, I mean, posing with his kids, he's probably out there rounding up more moosemeat for maw and the yungins...
September 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
When he's not sacrificing his kids - er, I mean, posing with his kids, he's probably out there rounding up more moosemeat for maw and the yungins...
September 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. You're a fucking liar. I just went back and checked and you didn't respond to anything. Pathetic, man.
September 5, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, I didn't realize it continued after my response.SFC
...no asking if she'll be able to give enough attention to the job with 5 kids is sexist. Bill Clinton had enogh time to get a few blow jobs in between breifings, I'm sure she'll be able to squeeze in a diaper change if necessary.
HyperRevue
Was it also sexist when the same questions were asked of John Edwards??
SFC
They weren't, or of Biden...they were heros for "soldiering on" through tough times.
HyperRevue
Hardly.
"Rush Limbaugh said the Edwardses were turning their eyes to the campaign when they instead should turn their eyes to God."
"Katie Couric, in a “60 Minutes” interview, accused Edwards of mining his wife’s condition for sympathy votes: 'Even those who may be very empathetic to what you all are facing might question your ability to run the country at the same time you’re dealing with a major health crisis in your family,' Couric told Edwards."
"And in Time magazine, columnist Jay Carney wrote that “surely many average Americans have to be wondering at what point the candidate will decide that his duties as husband and father to three children, including a 6- and 8-year-old, trump his duty to his country and the cause of winning the White House.”
Okay. Your turn.
September 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's why my response above was pretty much the same...
September 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's, ummm, still not a response. Just repeating your false claim doesn't really count.
You said they were applauded for "soldering on" and I showed you that they weren't.
This is where you say, "I was wrong. Yes, people did ask very similar things of John Edwards and his family as they are of Sarah Palin. Sorry for being a douchebag."
Give it a try.
September 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Go here:
http://www.johnmccain.com/
Click the "About" button and pick either McCain or Palin, it's all there. There's info on Ciny too if you're interested.
September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nope, you tell us. Inquiring minds want to know and I am not interested in conclusions. How about some facts? Your a water carrier for him and her, you should know, right? Thanks in advance.
September 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't "carry water" for anyone, if you were truely interested in getting you question answered, you'd read the site for yourself. If you're just trying to be a dick, then you'll continue in your current vein (no pun intended).
September 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nope, not trying to be a dick, trying to get you to explain why your candidates are allegedly mavericks and reformers. All you do is hurl bullshit bombs. Why not put your time to good use and convince us as opposed to spewing bullshit? Still waiting on a response. Thanks in advance.
September 5, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's Andrew Sullivan's take on Palin being a reformer:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/dissent-of-th-2.html#more
September 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Less than a month to learn foreign policy?! This is just sad.
September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
From traitor joe the neocon, no less. Why don't they use scocroft or baker or some republican that has a gd clue about foreign policy and diplomacy? Why don't the current republicans get it? They don't know what the words foreign policy mean.
September 5, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Why don't the current republicans get it?" Why don't you get it? McCain/Palin aren't after the TPM vote.
September 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
So I guess scowcroft and baker and bush I aren't good republicans. They don't know foreign policy, right? They are just left wing looney tpm readers, right?
September 5, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nope...you are.
September 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
What are you, 13?!
September 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
You should have come back with the "I'm rubber you're glue" defense. There is no stopping it.
September 5, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that you are being generous. Is it me or does this troll sound different from the sfcwallace that was posting a couple of weeks ago?
September 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really agree. The old SFC used to actually engage you in honest debate. This SFC is a fucking troll.
September 5, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Republican's a Republican's a Republican.
Intellectual dishonesty, condescension and coded racism is all you need to belong!
September 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone still know what this threads about?
just wondering
September 5, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Debate requires an honest effort on both parts... ie "You're a fucking liar!" has no response other than "No, I'm not."
September 5, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about "No I'm not and here's why:"?
September 5, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really agree. The old SFC used to actually engage you in honest debate. This SFC is a fucking troll.
September 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right. You're going to win with the 45% that comprise the partisan base + partisan evangelicals that still have job security. Thanks. Keep it up.
September 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, a fair number of independents read this site.
So McCain and Palin are going after the TPM vote.
But thanks for the lame insults anyway! So cute.
September 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but when Perky Bunny* (*= my nickname for her... personally, my favorite is "Milfy McMooseburger", but I can't claim credit for that :-) makes the inevitable world class gaffe during her sole debate, we who have already caught up to history (..???) may all be grateful for YouTube and the internets... the gift that most assuredly WILL keep on giving.
Heck, we'll see to that.
September 5, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but when Perky Bunny* (*= my nickname for her... personally, my favorite is "Milfy McMooseburger", but I can't claim credit for that :-) makes the inevitable world class gaffe during her sole debate, we who have already caught up to history (..???) may all be grateful for YouTube and the internets... the gift that most assuredly WILL keep on giving.
Heck, we'll see to that.
September 5, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is this an example of the well-informed (GOP) voter you've been hyping? Why if you were counseling Gov. Palin there wouldn't even be a VP debate at all...
ROTFLMAO!
Time to cash in your McCain posting points for that Golf Umbrella Dude - when Peggy Noonan tells you it's over - it really is over... and that was before McCain's "sea of green" performance last night.
Yep the Party that Loves the Military and Veterans SO much can't even figure out what Walter Reed looks like - the GOP has gone from a Bad Joke to a Pathetic Joke
September 5, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I've never heard that term used in a racially derogatory sense."
OK, either Westmoreland has been living in a cave since he was born, or he's lying his ass off. I'm betting on the latter.
September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pretty sure I just hear Westmoreland use the term in a derogatory sense.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
September 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course. It's derogatory by definition--that's not the point. He said he didn't mean it in a racially derogatory sense.
September 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps in the Georgia town he grew up in, it was an everyday term, so common that he didn't realize that it was only blacks that it was applied to.
If I called him a "cracker," could my defense be that I didn't mean it in a racially derogatory sense? The dictionary says that it means "a thin crisp wafer or biscuit, usually made of unsweetened dough."
September 5, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the thing about deep rooted racial stereotypes is that people don't notice they have them -- the don't see "uppity" as having a racial connotation, even though they'd almost never use that term for a white man.
September 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lynn Westmoreland was born in 1950 in Georgia, was raised there and lived there his whole life. He was 14 when Mississippi was burning 18 when MLK was murdered.
If he's never heard the term "uppity" used in a racially derogatory sense, its because he doesn't think that pointing out that a particular negro is acting in a way in keeping with his proper station in life and acting like he's as good as a white person, and thus in need of lynching, is in any way derogatory to the negro race as a whole. It's Simply a reflection upon the individual negro in question, and thus not racially derogatory at all.
Sheesh. Why do you liberals always have to make everything about race?
September 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Westmoreland's actually said outloud what the whole GOP elitist attack actually means. I mean, come on, both candidates are financially above the average American. If it isn't a racist attack, then what is it?
September 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ive never seen uppity used in a non racial way. But i didnt grow up in a mill.
September 5, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
To be fair, Westmoreland is right about "uppity." Anyone can be "uppity." I'm white, and I said "no thanks" to an offer of a bottle of Budweiser (I prefer craft beer or tap water). What did I get called? Well, "asshole," of course, but also "uppity."
September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Context: I grew up in rural South Carolina, and I'm 28.
September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Could've been worse. My family in SC look at anything other than Coors as apostasy. I asked for the inclusion of Sam Adams at a family function and I still haven't heard the end of it.
September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's possible. How could they possibly taunt you?
"F*cking American beer."
"Oh, look, here comes Pollyanna Patriot and her Stout of Sanctimony."
I guess there is the yankee dimension, though.
September 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I meant "That's hilarious," not "that's possible." I think I'm setting a record for self-replies here.
September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, well Westmoreland is 58. He grew up hearing the word the same way I did (I'm 50) in the 1950s and 60s. It was widely used and had only one meaning when referring to a black person. Actually, the complete phrase that was used was "uppity nigger."
If you want to defend that go right ahead.
September 5, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well Westmoreland is 58, not 28, and for about the first 20 years of his life in Georgia, and in the states you and I live in, a politician's affixation of the word "uppity" to a black man was to the Ku Klux Klan as a Green Beret's shining a laser designator on a building is to a smart bomb. Emmett Till was "uppity" for whisting at a white woman. Medgar Evers and Martin Luther King, Jr. were the very epitome of the uppity n___r.
Sorry, but I'm really outraged at the lack of outrage here. They've been practically bursting to get this word into the political venacular of this campaign. If no one in the MSM or either of the campaigns come down on this cracker for this, now, right now, they'll succeed.
September 5, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Barracuda song was yet another sign of the split personality in the McCain camp. Coming right after McCain's paeans to civility and partisanship, it reminded everyone that he and his campaign want it both ways.
September 5, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
it's got to become a meme that Palin is afraid of news conferences and interviews: the longer Obama waits on this, the worse off for his campaign. This is an easy issue to exploit, and I hope the Dems don't let this opportunity pass ...
September 5, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
You guys are retarded...the convention just ended last night...she'll do plenty of interviews between now and the election.
September 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's not what Rick Davis was saying on AM Joe today...
September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
What was he saying?
September 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, no. We mean other than People Magazine.
September 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Take your schoolboy insult back. The McCain campaign announced this morning that she won't be available for press questioning until after the election.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/no_questions_please_were.html
September 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course if you actually watch the video it doesn't say what you insinuate.
September 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course if you actually watch the video it doesn't say what you insinuate.
September 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The dems won't have to say a whole heck of a lot. If she doesn't give interviews and press conferences, she'll be pissing off the journalists themselves.
September 5, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
The question is really, will she be interviewed by anyone other than Diane Sawyer?
September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
My guess is it'll be Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly.
September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
No posts on Obama's O'Reilly interview? Did anyone watch?
September 5, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJWqNRVbxgQ
O'Reilly's splitting the interview into several segments. The others will be shown next week.
September 5, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm also surprised at how little has been said here about Obama's appearance on O'Reilly. I saw it. Obama did well (at least for last night's segment), and it was apparent that Bill O thought Obama did well too.
September 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did he? I figured they'd be shitting all over him as soon as he left the studio.
September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bill O said that:
-Obama was right about the invasion of Iraq in the first place (perspicacious was the word Bill O used)
-Obama was right to demand Iraq use some of their surplus to take care of some of the costs incurred by the US
-Obama "is not a wimp"
The only time Bill O was really fighting him was over the surge, trying Obama to admit he was wrong on the surge. Obama did say that the surge succeeded beyond his wildest aspirations.
The interview is being stretched into M, T, W of next week, probably to maximize Bill O's ratings for as many nights as possible. Tuesday sounds like the big fireworks, when Wright and Ayers will be discussed.
September 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Couldn't stomach watching the entire show, so I kept checking in to see if Sen. Obama had begun speaking yet. So I missed the very beginning, but caught most of it.
All in all, Sen. Obama more than held his own. He came a little closer to saying the surge was a "success" than I would have been comfortable with. He can get a stock answer that isn't soundbite-able that includes 1) proud of the work our troops are doing, 2) there were a number of reasons that violence is down in Iraq besides the surge, and 3) it hasn't led to much political progress in Iraq. Sen. Obama said all of those things, to be sure, but the first part of his answer was about the surge succeeding and the second part was "however...". It seemed easy to take the first part out of context. Besides that, he did just fine.
For what it's worth, at other times during the program, I did hear O'Reilly say 1) he was impressed by Sen. Obama's tenacity, calling him "no wimp" and 2) he gave Sen. Obama credit for not dodging any of his questions and answering them all straightforwardly (or something to that effect).
September 5, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama had a good metaphor about the war back in a Dem primary debate...basically, that getting us into a war was like driving into a ditch and even if a politician made moves that got us a few inches out, you still have to remember that we're still in a ditch and you have to remember who got you there.
September 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
The surge was a small tactical success attached to a big strategic failure.
September 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Adjective: uppity (comparative more uppity, superlative most uppity)
Presumptuous, above oneself, self-important.
I think you are one very uppity young man."
Wikipedia.
September 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
But the undertones are racial. And undertones are more likely to excite the emotional centers of the brain. For us, we feel outraged on behalf of our candidate. But for the other side it feeds hidden or blatant bigotry.
September 5, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Saying someone is "bitchy" means they complain a lot, but if you use the term to describe a woman, that is regarded as sexist.
Same way "uppity" describing a black person is regarded as racist. Same with calling a black man "boy."
September 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml
September 5, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yawn. They changed their voter party ids. Doesn't mean crap.
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/9/4/154957/5651/76#c76
With your inability to read polls, maybe you should get a job here at TPM Election Central.
September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
"McCain offers politices in his acceptance speech"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/05/mccain.highlights/index.html
Go take a look at some of the "policies" CNN lays out.
"Open new markets to American goods and services."
"Prepare workers to compete in the world economy."
"Keep taxes low and cut them where he could."
"Make schools answer to parents and students."
"A serious blow has been dealt to al Qaeda, but the terror network has not been defeated and will strike again if able."
Those dont' strike me as very concrete policy proposals.
September 5, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now go back to Obama's speech and you'll find the same "concreteness."
September 5, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
That sounds pretty specific to me.
Go ahead. Say it: "But, but, but...she's got more experience"....I'm waiting for it. Don't let us down.
September 5, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
...as specific as McCain's last night.
September 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, if you close one eye, wiggle your nose and hum "My Sharona" while comparing them.
September 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
...as specific as McCain's last night.
September 5, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently the word "specific" does not mean what you think it means.
September 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently the word "specific" does not mean what you think it means.
September 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that they are not concrete, but I think they are significant for the independents because McCain continues to increase contrast with Obama.
His speech was awful in delivery but I think for those who were watching and were on the fence it was important. He went against his own party, he tried to focus on reform and he made a pretty strong case that he has the record to back him up.
Now the Obama campaign will pounce again that he voted 90% with Bush. I think what will happen in the debates or commercials is that Republicans will point out that Biden voted 70% with Bush and Obama something like 65%.
I think Obama needs to go on economy, pronto. Which has alwasy been his weak spot.
September 5, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was 65%? Is there a source for that?
And even if it's true, I have zero worry about Obama getting turned into the 3rd Bush term.
McCain can finally admit to the failures of the last 8 years, but I think the video of him on O'Reilly saying how he voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and loved it and campaigned his heart out for him is far more striking.
September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's not the point. The narrative that they are building is the point, to use everyone's favorite word.
I think McCain's speech was bad for those expecting fiery oratory and he certainly doesn't have Obama's silver tongue. Maybe he will get a negative bounce from it, even (is there a word for it?). But it will be used in shaping McCain/Palin and turning Obama into yesterday's news. And if the fight is for independents and women, Republicans certainly took a big step in that direction
September 5, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think "dead-cat bounce" or "thud" would work here.
September 5, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Obama's figure was 45% with W...
*off to find sourcing*
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/mccain-camp-obama-too-lib_n_105035.html
September 5, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, jeez, Lalo -- what the hell are you talking about? The whole speech last week was about economy. If not, what was it about? And if they say we voted with Bush, we'll say it proves our bipartisan credentials. Take the concern-troll act back to the right side of the screen, where it's got more of an audience.
September 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's for pointing out once again that to be a supporter one must be a worshipper.
September 5, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even in that obvious outlier of a crappy CBS poll McLame can't get above 42 freaking %? Wow, I'm quaking in my boots.
And it's now official- Lie-berman has zero self-respect. "Tutoring" the unqualified greenhorn for whom everybody knows he was passed over??
September 5, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
WHo's tutoring your "unqualified greenhorn?"
September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lay off Maddow. She's young, but she's not unqualified. And she doesn't look like a back-up singer for the B-52s.
September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey now! Lay off the B-52s. In fact, they wrote the perfect snog for McCain: "Private Idaho"
September 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama could tutor NcGigolo (and will indeed "school" him in the first debate), because he's forgotten more about foreign policy than McGigolo has ever known.
September 5, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't need it.
September 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why don't you let her get through 20+ debates and then get back to us?
September 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that after 22 debates, even intellectually dishonest Obama haters would admit that the man knows his shit.
September 5, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently you weren't watching...Hillary kicked his butt in the debates, Alan Keyes Kicked his butt in their debates...John McCain will kick his butt in their debates...America will say "how did this guy ever beat Hillary?" and y'all will say we stole another one through voter intimidation in New Mexico or Colorado...
September 5, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did you even see the Obama-Keyes debates??? Well I've seen them several times and you can't be serious. *laughs* They were however very entertaining. Half the time, O was trying not to let out a chuckle debating the ridiculous and irrelevant Keyes. I think they are still available online if you'd like a refresher.
September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Apparently you weren't watching...Hillary kicked his butt in the debates, Alan Keyes Kicked his butt in their debates...John McCain will kick his butt in their debates..."
Apparently you weren't watching, or you are full of shit, or you're just intellectually dishonest. Who knows? Hillary is a great debater and Obama held his own quite nicely. John McCain on the other hand got out-debated by the likes of Mitt Romney. How fucking sad is that? So yeah, keep telling yourself misguided theories to get you through the night, it still won't stop Obama from eating McCain's lunch in a debate.
September 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Surely you jest, Wallace. As an Illinois resident, I saw Sen. Obama's campagin. My in-laws were in town visiting during one of the Obama-Keyes debates. We're talking diehard righties, Limbaugh fans, Fox News watchers -- the whole nine yards. *They* were shaking their heads in disbelief at Keyes and commented how Obama was going to clobber him at the polls... which he did, winning over 70% as I recall.
September 5, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Surely you jest, Wallace. As an Illinois resident, I saw Sen. Obama's campagin. My in-laws were in town visiting during one of the Obama-Keyes debates. We're talking diehard righties, Limbaugh fans, Fox News watchers -- the whole nine yards. *They* were shaking their heads in disbelief at Keyes and commented how Obama was going to clobber him at the polls... which he did, winning over 70% as I recall.
September 5, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm bummed about the Heart story. That was the only fun moment in the whole GOP convention, when Palin appeared to "Barracuda."
September 5, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin getting a crash course on foreign policy from Joe Leiberman is just begging for parody.
Somebody needs set up a website or something.
September 5, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kristin Wiig, paging Kristin Wiig. Kristin Wiig, pick up the white courtesy telephone please.
September 5, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh.my.god. Kristen Wiig was already amazing, and now all she has to do is marry her Target lady to her A-Hole lady to a crazed hockey sidelines mom who is the only person qualified in the universe to call offsides and... Wiig is a superstar!
September 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Republican candidates, spokescreatures, and trolls all lie like rugs. Yawn. In other news, dog bites man.
September 5, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well when I call Westmoreland a cracker, be assured, I don't mean that in a racially derogatory either.
September 5, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
September 5, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. It's just because he's kind of salty and brittle, like a cracker.
September 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember, Westmoreland is the Ten Commandments crusader who could only remember three of the commandments. If he thinks "uppity" isn't a racially loaded term in the smalltown South or the good old boy building industry he grew up in, it's only because he's stupid or doesn't know any actual black people.
I grew up in GOB North Carolina, and there was no doubt who the "uppity" label was reserved for.
September 5, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I grew up in (WAY North of the Manson/Nixon line) Wisconsin and we ALL know what "uppity" means. Westmoreland is not just a racist, he's a disingenuous racist. Coward. If he really thinks that way he should have the courage to own up to it. Pathetic.
September 5, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I grew up in (WAY North of the Manson/Nixon line) Wisconsin and we ALL know what "uppity" means. Westmoreland is not just a racist, he's a disingenuous racist. Coward. If he really thinks that way he should have the courage to own up to it. Pathetic.
September 5, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
well, that may be a usage in his area, but it's not the sole "dictionary definition." the Free Dictionary, for example offers this:
which is definitely the derogatory (and often racial) usage I'm most familiar with.September 5, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Houghton Mifflin also adds this usage example -
Taking liberties or assuming airs beyond one's station; presumptuous: "was getting a little uppity and needed to be slapped down" (New York Times).
It's not just calling someone "snobbish," as Westmoreland claims. It's saying they're acting above their station and need to be put back in their place. THAT'S the key to the definition. THAT'S why it's racist.
September 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oops, McCain had the wrong Walter Reed
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/5/85456/03686/167/587661
Turns out he had the Middle School!
September 5, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, no. . . having a North Hollywood Middle School as your backdrop is just so mavricky (sp intentional).
September 5, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think they'd at least get the process stuff right! Besides, what the hell were they thinking putting him in front of what looks to be a mansion? After the whole thing about how many houses he has? If we lose this election to these amateurs I'm gonna have to soak my head for a month!
September 5, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like they vetted their slideshow about as well as they vetted their VP selection. Didn't the Republicans used to run on their "competency"?
September 5, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, after watching that bio video last night we all know who that Alice in Chains' song was about... John McCain is the man in the box!
September 5, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe it's just my age (although I'm 1 year younger than Palin), but I remember a time when calling a woman a "Barracuda" was not a compliment.
September 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama already gave Westmoreland a pass on his "uppity" remark accepting that he was talking about Obama being an elitist, and said to the effect "Westmoreland shouldn't throw stones from his guys eight glass mansions"
I fond it insulting that they think anybody could learn everything they need to know in foreign policy in a month and a half of cramming.
The McCain Camp knows they're stealing songs, but figure nothing is going to happen - they'll use it and then be told to stop, but got what they wanted out of it.
September 5, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have never heard the term "macaca" used in the village I grew up in, but I was pretty sure it was racially tinged when I heard it.
And then I used the Intertubes and found out I was right.
How &#$%% hard is that?!
Why does it always come down to willful ignorance with these clownish Republicans?
It's like every freakin' time...
September 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate to sound like a broken record, but it's worth noting that in doing this, Joe Lieberman is not only a traitor to his former party and his former principles, he's also being a traitor to his religion.
Palin is a Jew-baiter whose first campaign for mayor of that cosmopolitan metropolis, Wasilla, proclaimed that she would be "the first Christian mayor" of that town. The incumbent whom she ran against's last name? Stein. Never mind that he was raised a Lutheran. She was making a play for the anti-Semitic vote.
As Stein told The New York Times:
And just two weeks ago, she attended a church service at which the leader of "Jews for Jesus" spoke, and her minister (Rev. Wright, anyone?) lavished praise on the organization.
I guess if Joe Lieberman can call himself a Democrat, as he did this week, he can call himself an Orthodox Jew. And I may as well call myself Michael Phelps.
September 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Lindsay Graham's speech was remarkable. All that was missing was a swastika on his arm.
O'Reilly's sitdown with Obama was a non-event. I just don't understand why BO agreed to it. O'Reilly is clearly a loathesome, anti-intellectual cretin and I found it embarrasing to watch. Especially when Obama agreed that the Surge[tm] was a sucess..."beyond our wildest dreams." They only showed 15 minutes of a longer interview that will be shown next Mon., Tues. and Wed.
Using the word "uppity" in general is not the problem. Using it specifically towards a black person carries all sorts of historically racist connotations.
September 5, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I totally agree about Obama going on O'Liely's show. What's the upside? That maybe he'll convince 5 or 10 of O'Liely's knuckle-dragging, mouth-breating, Bush dead-enders to vote for Obama instead of McInsane? I watched as much of it as I could stomach, and what struck me what the utter lack of respect or deference that O'Liely paid to Obama. Whereas he treats his right-wing guests with courtesy, he constantly interrupted Obama, treated him as if he were some punk kid who just walked into the studio. And, yes, he did get Obama to go farther than I think he should have in agreeing that "the Surge" -- that is, the escalation -- had been a "success." Why? This clown is an abomination, a classless jerk. Al Franken had it right.
September 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are wrong. Unless O'Reilley tells you to shut up and turns off your microphone, he has shown you respect (relatively speaking).
September 5, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are wrong. Unless O'Reilly tells you to shut up and turns off your microphone, he has shown you respect (relatively speaking).
September 5, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah I want Palin who is a heartbeat away from being president just now "cramming" to learn foreign policy and national security and leiberman being the teacher is so classic. Palin is getting tutored by a teacher who flunked the class. Maybe that’s why she is too busy to speak to the press
September 5, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Westmoreland is either stupid or thinks we are. How can someone grow up in metro Atlanta and reach the age of 58 and not know what word immediately follows "uppity"!??
September 5, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin will end up as a trivia question in 2 years.
September 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin will end up as a trivia question in 2 years.
September 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Obama's figure was 45% with W...
*off to find sourcing*
September 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Lalo, I would never find myself in her situation because I'm not an avowed "pro-lifer".
I want to clarify: I'm not suggesting that there is anything wrong with the mother of a special needs child working, even in a stressful or powerful position. What I find unseemly is the use of a child as a political prop to "prove" your cred, particularly when your commitment to said child is not so all-consuming that you would choose putting your time into attending to his needs ahead of your political ambitions. There's the rub, as I see it. Giving birth to a special needs child is not in and of itself heroic. Caring for one is a different story. And I don't have any doubt that should the unthinkable happen and this ill-suited woman become our vice-president, she'll be spending very little time with that child that she touts as proof of her sacrifice to her unshakable principle of the value of life.
September 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain: "I've been an imperfect public servant for many years." "Fight with me!"
September 5, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain: "I've been an imperfect public servant for many years." "Fight with me!"
September 5, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
For the Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland to claim he had never heard the term "uppity" as being racially derogatory is simply beyond belief. No southerner is that stupid.
And a dictionary defense? Mass published dictionaries aren't written in Georgia. Westmoreland is an ignorant fool as well as an angry southern conservative racist.
He has no defense. He should simply apologize and accept his screw-up for being honest about how he feels.
September 5, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
The message is that Sarah Palin is just a pretty face on the ticket. McCain is the serious-looking war hero on the ticket. If the Republicans win, the same people who have been running the government for eight years will still be running the government.
The "change" this ticket will bring refers to John's and Trig's diapers.
September 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are wrong. Unless O'Reilly tells you to shut up and turns off your microphone, he has shown you respect (relatively speaking).
September 5, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama is right not to make an issue of the "uppity" remark. It would just be a distraction, and it's just as well that it goes away.
BUT, anybody who tries to argue that it's not a racial slur is either an idiot or a liar. Westmoreland is both. His defenders are mostly the latter, and they have lost all credibility.
September 5, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Westmoreland, someone should ask him if he has ever watched Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles" because who hasn't. I'm 99% sure the phrase "uppity n%%%%%" is used multiple times in that movie (by Slim Pickens, I think). It's in "To Kill a Mockingbird," too, isn't it?
I mean c'mon - a Southerner who's never heard that phrase. Completely unbelievable.
September 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
IDAustin, thanks for one of the funniest posts I've ever seen (the one about westmoreland being a cracker). I was laughing for 5 minutes after reading it.
Obama going on the O'Reilly factor shows that he practices what he preaches. His theme of hope, unity and inclusion is not just words because he shows it by doing stuff like this.
On the other hand, McCain uses the tired old republican themes of fear, liberal bashing and war to try to gin up support. Old is the word.
September 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can someone talk about this latest news.
Unemployment surges to 5-year high as employers cut workers for eighth straight month. Total job losses for 2008: 605,000.
September 5, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
LET'S CUT THROUGH ALL THE RHETORIC
Assuming, for the sake of discussion, the best case scenario for McCain and he wins ALL the deeply red states and AK, AZ, TX, MO, IN, WV and GA, which he should do, and also the states of NV, MT, ND, SD, CO, VA, NC and NH, which he shouldn’t do, in order to reach 270 electoral votes he’d have to ALSO win either OH and PA or OH and FL or PA and FL. Go to the electoral-vote.com website and make a realistic evaluation. Anybody want to give me odds on McCain being able to do that?
September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
LET'S CUT THROUGH ALL THE RHETORIC
Assuming, for the sake of discussion, the best case scenario for McCain and he wins ALL the deeply red states and AK, AZ, TX, MO, IN, WV and GA, which he should do, and also the states of NV, MT, ND, SD, CO, VA, NC and NH, which he shouldn’t do, in order to reach 270 electoral votes he’d have to ALSO win either OH and PA or OH and FL or PA and FL. Go to the electoral-vote.com website and make a realistic evaluation. Anybody want to give me odds on McCain being able to do that?
September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
LET'S CUT THROUGH ALL THE RHETORIC
Assuming, for the sake of discussion, the best case scenario for McCain and he wins ALL the deeply red states and AK, AZ, TX, MO, IN, WV and GA, which he should do, and also the states of NV, MT, ND, SD, CO, VA, NC and NH, which he shouldn’t do, in order to reach 270 electoral votes he’d have to ALSO win either OH and PA or OH and FL or PA and FL. Go to the electoral-vote.com website and make a realistic evaluation. Anybody want to give me odds on McCain being able to do that?
September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
LET'S CUT THROUGH ALL THE RHETORIC
Assuming, for the sake of discussion, the best case scenario for McCain and he wins ALL the deeply red states and AK, AZ, TX, MO, IN, WV and GA, which he should do, and also the states of NV, MT, ND, SD, CO, VA, NC and NH, which he shouldn’t do, in order to reach 270 electoral votes he’d have to ALSO win either OH and PA or OH and FL or PA and FL. Go to the electoral-vote.com website and make a realistic evaluation. Anybody want to give me odds on McCain being able to do that?
September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Apparently you weren't watching...Hillary kicked his butt in the debates, Alan Keyes Kicked his butt in their debates...John McCain will kick his butt in their debates..."
Horseshit. You don't even believe that inbred argument any more. Hillary was a great debater, and Obama more than held his own with her. Johnj McCain on the other hand, got out-debated by the likes of Mitt Romney - its like being out-acted by carrot-top. Obama will eat McCain's lunch in a debate, even the intellectually dishonest such as yourself understands that.
September 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Apparently you weren't watching...Hillary kicked his butt in the debates, Alan Keyes Kicked his butt in their debates...John McCain will kick his butt in their debates..."
Horseshit. You don't even believe that inbred argument any more. Hillary was a great debater, and Obama more than held his own with her. Johnj McCain on the other hand, got out-debated by the likes of Mitt Romney - its like being out-acted by carrot-top. Obama will eat McCain's lunch in a debate, even the intellectually dishonest such as yourself understands that.
September 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey SFC -
What do you think uppity means?
How about cracker?
September 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
This condescending, uppity (yes, uppity) attitude is the whole problem with you Democrats. Of course it was worth it. Alaska is the LARGEST state in the union, you know--a hell of lot bigger than Illinois, which sounds suspiciously French, besides. And one more thing--John McCain was a POW for over five years! How dare you belittle his service by mocking the importance of Alaska!!!
September 5, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
This condescending, uppity (yes, uppity) attitude is the whole problem with you Democrats. Of course it was worth it. Alaska is the LARGEST state in the union, you know--a hell of lot bigger than Illinois, which sounds suspiciously French, besides. And one more thing--John McCain was a POW for over five years! How dare you belittle his service by mocking the importance of Alaska!!!
September 5, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
This condescending, uppity (yes, uppity) attitude is the whole problem with you Democrats. Of course it was worth it. Alaska is the LARGEST state in the union, you know--a hell of lot bigger than Illinois, which sounds suspiciously French, besides. And one more thing--John McCain was a POW for over five years! How dare you belittle his service by mocking the importance of Alaska!!!
September 5, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This condescending, uppity (yes, uppity) attitude is the whole problem with you Democrats. Of course it was worth it. Alaska is the LARGEST state in the union, you know--a hell of lot bigger than Illinois, which sounds suspiciously French, besides. And one more thing--John McCain was a POW for over five years! How dare you belittle his service by mocking the importance of Alaska!!!
September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
This condescending, uppity (yes, uppity) attitude is the whole problem with you Democrats. Of course it was worth it. Alaska is the LARGEST state in the union, you know--a hell of lot bigger than Illinois, which sounds suspiciously French, besides. And one more thing--John McCain was a POW for over five years! How dare you belittle his service by mocking the importance of Alaska!!!
September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
This condescending, uppity (yes, uppity) attitude is the whole problem with you Democrats. Of course it was worth it. Alaska is the LARGEST state in the union, you know--a hell of lot bigger than Illinois, which sounds suspiciously French, besides. And one more thing--John McCain was a POW for over five years! How dare you belittle his service by mocking the importance of Alaska!!!
September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey SFC -
What do you think uppity means?
How about cracker?
September 5, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey SFC -
What do you think uppity means?
How about cracker?
September 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
in the original Hill article you can see the reporter throwing westmoreland a life preserver and westmoreland just obliviously doubling down on the comment
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html
September 5, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
in the original Hill article you can see the reporter throwing westmoreland a life preserver and westmoreland just obliviously doubling down on the comment
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html
September 5, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
in the original Hill article you can see the reporter throwing westmoreland a life preserver and westmoreland just obliviously doubling down on the comment
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html
September 5, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
in the original Hill article you can see the reporter throwing westmoreland a life preserver and westmoreland just obliviously doubling down on the comment
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/westmoreland-calls-obama-uppity-2008-09-04.html
September 5, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, it's ETYMOLOGY TIME!
uppity
adjective
1. presumptuous, Presumptuous, above oneself, self-important.
I think you are one very uppity young man.
Etymology: Fanciful extension of up. First used in the slave states of USA in mid 1800s.
Hmm, first used in the SLAVE STATES ... to define whom, I wonder ...
September 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like the "Honorable" Rep. Westmoreland is a racist and a really bad liar.
September 5, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink