Election Central Morning Roundup
Tonight: Palin's Big Speech
Sarah Palin will be delivering her acceptance speech as the Republican vice-presidential nominee tonight, a second chance to make a good impression on the voting public after a very tumultuous last few days.
Obama In Ohio Today
Barack Obama is campaigning today in the big swing state of Ohio, where polls have shown a close race, with stops in New Philadelphia and Dillonvale.
McCain Arriving In Minnesota Today
John McCain is scheduled to arrive in the Twin Cities today at 12:45 p.m. ET.
WaPo: Palin Was Only Interviewed By Campaign This Past Wednesday
The Washington Post reports that Sarah Palin was only interviewed by John McCain's vetting team this past Wednesday, the day before John McCain asked her to be his running mate. It's hard to believe that the full ramifications of picking Palin were properly deliberated by the campaign.
Reid "Disappointed" With Lieberman
Harry Reid's spokesman told CNN that Reid is "very disappointed" with Joe Lieberman's speech last night at the Republican Convention. "As the American people have made very clear, the last thing this country needs is another four years of the same old failed Bush-McCain policies of the past."
Obama To Appear On O'Reilly
Barack Obama will reportedly be going where not too many prominent Dems like to venture: The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News. Obama will be sitting down with O'Reilly for an interview set to air tomorrow night, in an attempt to counter John McCain's speech at the Republican Convention.
Poll: Dem Has Narrow Edge For Heather Wilson's House Seat
A new SurveyUSA poll shows the Democratic nominee narrowly ahead in the race for an open House seat of New Mexico's GOP Rep. Heather Wilson. Democratic Albuquerque City Councilor Martin Heinrich has 51%, while Republican Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White has 46%, in a campaign that will probably be close all the way to Election Day.
Michael Moore To Lieberman: Stop Talking About Me!
Michael Moore has responded in a blog post to Joe Lieberman's mentioning of him during last night's Republican convention speech. "What is it with you and your Republican friends always bringing me up?" Moore writes. "Can't you stop thinking about me? It's starting to sound like a fetish! Stop it!"















Where's the InTrade betting on the number of "glass ceiling" and "Hillary Clinton" mentions used tonight by Palin?
September 3, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is not afraid not go into the belly of the beast, going up against O'Reilly tomorrow.
Meanwhile, McCain cancels his interview with Larry King after CNN's Campbell Brown asks a couple of incisive questions.
Which candidate has the stronger guts to go up against Russia, Iran, etc.?
September 3, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
And, Iran? I'm not sure if Alaska is definitely the closest state to Iran, but I give you this:
Anchorage-Tehran: 5643 miles
Wilmington-Tehran: 6235 miles
Sarah Palin is clearly more experienced and knowledgeable about Iran than is Joe Biden. Five hundred and ninety-two miles more experienced.
September 3, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice
September 3, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Alaska is also closest to North Korea. Guess that means she could punk Kim Jong Il, as well as Putin.
September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
And probably in a single trip -- on mooseback.
September 3, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, she is the Governor of the LARGEST State. you don't know the kind of pressure she is under!
September 3, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I reckon that Honolulu is closer to Tehran than Anchorage, so Obama wins that as well.
September 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ba-zing!
September 3, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
You'd reckon wrong. Honolulu is 8067 miles from Tehran.
Proving, once again, that Sarah Palin is 2424 miles more experienced than Barack Obama.
September 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
1. I don't like Obama going on O'Reilly but if it's going to air tomorrow, I think it'll offer a nice counter to McCain's acceptance speech.
2. When the fuck are they going to let Palin off the leash and let her actually take questions from reporters?
September 3, 2008 9:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Geez, hyperRevue, she's given an interview to People Magazine. What more do you want from the person who could be POTUS in 5 months? Stop being such a sexist pig.
September 3, 2008 9:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
ha!
September 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Way to deal with the nervy poster, SchrodingersCat!
September 3, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama better be prepared for the abortion question on O'Reily. However he does have a radio ad hitting McCain on his abortion stance, so he's not afraid to go there. He might have to say something better than "above my pay grade though".
September 3, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
You already know he's going to get real questions that the nation needs to know about like:
* When was the last time you smoked pot?
and
* You've been accused of running a sexist campaign... why are you such a misogynist pig?
and
* Please tell us all the ways you fall short of McCain's greatness?
September 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
You really think the b_llsh_t express is going to let Palin field questions? Come on.
September 3, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Much better question, when will they take the gag out of McCain's mouth and let him answer questions from the press. If anyone has forgotten, it is McCain who will become the next president if things continue as they are going now. McCain has avoided the press completely for weeks now.
It makes no difference what Palin says or thinks. She is not up for election to the presidency. She is relevant only as an example of McCain's slipshod method of making decisions.
September 3, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awww, poor Reid. He's disappointed with Lieberman.
Maybe he'll filibuster Lieberman for one night, saying in advance that it's going to be for one night.
September 3, 2008 9:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Reid and the Senate Democrats had the chance to get rid of Lieberman when he ran against their own party's nominee in the summer and fall of 2006. They chose instead to hedge their bets and essentially endorse both Lieberman and Ned Lamont, the actual choice of Connecticut Democrats, thus assuring Lieberman's reelection.
Everyone knew exactly what Lieberman stood for at that point. Heck, most sensible people knew exactly what he was about the first time he ran in 1988 (which is why Bill Buckley supported him even back then).
As is typical for the Senate Democratic leadership, Harry Reid made his own bed in this case. Let him lie in it.
September 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
the problem is that whatever bed Reid is lying in, so is the rest of the nation.
September 3, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Politico says McCain is buying airtime to run an ad saying Palin has more experience than Obama. Greg - do you have anything on this?
September 3, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've asked this before, but I'll ask again: What exactly are McCain's foreign policy creds? I have yet to have anyone give a serious answer to this. Is McCain running on the notion that him being a POW is somehow foreign policy experience? Or that because he was for the surge, that counts as foreign policy? Why hasn't anyone tagged the fact that McCain's entire foreign policy team is nothing but ultra neo-cons?
September 3, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's a maverick and has a wealth of foreign policy experience. Just accept it.
September 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
David Gregory is that you?
September 3, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, gregory would have been more effusive in praise of how much of a maverick he is. I'm not any of the cnn cheerleaders either. Aren't their any dem journalists anymore other than olbermann? Even matthews praises stupid delay. Pathetic.
As opposed to using the term maverick, how about a list of how mavericky he has been. The only mavericky thing that I know of that he did was campaign finance reform and he did it out of self-interest because of how he got smacked hard in an election. That's hardly a maverick. Ridiculous.
September 3, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Totally agree. If want a drinking game where you'll get hammered in record time, watch a newscast that's about McCain and drink every time they use the word "maverick".
September 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember:
"McCain puts the Ick back in Maverick."
September 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. They've already got the emails going on that too. Typical Republican response to a problem. When all else fails, they can always count on the willingness of their true believers in the Outer Party to buy whole-heartedly into any lie, no matter how bold.
Barack Obama managed more employees as the President of the Harvard Law Review than Palin did as mayor of the village of Wasilla. Obama's old state senate district has more people in it than the whole damn state of Alaska. The U.S. has dozens of cities and counties with more people in them and more employees than the state of Alaska. The governor of Alaska has about as much responsibility as the mayors of Charlotte, North Carolina or Memphis, Tennessee. Obama's spent his adult life thinking and talking to serious people about the Constitution and foreign and domestic policy. Palin? Beauty queen, TV sports reporter, mayor of a "town" with fewer inhabitants than a single twenty-story office building, never thought much about Iraq over the last six years.
I'm not much for telling the campaign what to do, but this new line of bullshit is a target-rich environment for some counter-ads.
September 3, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget that even Obama's undergraduate degree (from a top-rank college) is in international relations.
September 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
HE WAS A POW for FIVE!!5!! years. For 5 years, in his cell, all alone, he worked on Foreign Policy.
You just don't get it do you...
September 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like we've finally run out of breaking Palin stories. Now maybe we can go back and focus on each more specifically.
I expect hr to nail her speech tonight, so Obama/Biden better be ready to use ads to try and push back against the attempt by the GOP to frame her tonight.
It would have been better for all of these scandals to have maybe come out after her speech, because this will be seen as a reintroduction and a fresh start for her. All of her skeletons came out so quickly nothing ever really caught on, other than troopergate to a certain extent.
I hope she tries to play the "close to Russia" and "Lead the Alaskan National Guard" defenses tonight, along with her extensive executive experiences being the part-time mayor and PTA president. I think they're too smart for that, and it will be more autobiographical - "This is why I'm just like you" rather than "This is why I'm qualified to be VP".
September 3, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
NOT SO FAST JONZEY:
Palin has a new little church problem to deal with now too. Jewish voters will not like this at all.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13098.html
September 3, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. Politico is also pushing a new angle this morning: what's the statistical probability of McCain dying soon?
September 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
If there is any teeth to this story, I'd like to see Obama play it now, to get the Rev. Wright issue out of the way. I will not feel comfortable with polling to Wright has been played as an issue to the GE audience.
If you have Palin's preacher/Todd Palin's seperatist views, McCain with Hagee and Parsley, maybe Obama can down play the Rev Wright issue.
September 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
BVD,
Wasn't that the purpose of Lieberman vouching for McCain? Wasn't Lieberman there to tell 'friends of Israel' that McCain is the person you want as President, even if he is GOP? Wasn't that the point of putting country first and not allowing partisianship to determine who you vote for?
Lieberman was like a Jesse Jackson speaking to minorities to tell his constituency who to vote for.
Lieberman vouched for McCain as a Jew. To reassure the Jewish community that McCain is a 'friend of Israel'
After all, the rumor is that when McCain is President ...Lieberman will be Secretary of Defense.
Lieberman will be a good, good friend of Israel...that was his message.
September 3, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too smart for that?
It's one of their talking points! I've heard at least 3 people say it now.
September 3, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where is your Breakfast Club avatar?
I can't get enough of Carl the janitor.
September 3, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
All avatars have been removed, it seems they were mucking up the system.
September 3, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps Governor Palin can elaborate her position about whether married couples should be allowed to use birth control, and just which books she wanted banned from her hometown library.
I'm sure Lieberman's shaking in his shoes.
September 3, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
The bar has been set so low for Palin based on the past few days of media coverage that there's no way she can't exceed expectations.
September 3, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I expect that she's going to give birth onstage.
September 3, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
....while dressing a moose.
September 3, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
... and personally physically beating up one of the many Siberians who constantly try to invade Alaska.
I, for one, would be disappointed with anything less.
September 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is going to kick O'Reilly's ass.
September 3, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to watch out for this, because he should be bening compared to McCain not Palin - this is a GOP trick. If he counterpunches, he should use Biden against Palin, saying Joe Biden is ready from Day One, knows leaders on a first name basis and knows world capitals on the ground.
As far as executive experience, then she has more than McCain as well. Of course Obama has ran arguably one of the best campaigns in recent history for the better part of 18 months, with thousands of employees, an army of volunteers and a budget that has to be creeping close to $500M by the time November rolls around.
If they try and trumpet up her Mayorial days they deserve to be mocked.
September 3, 2008 9:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
In his interview with Brian Williams the other night, McCain actually cited not only her experience on the Wasilla City Council, but the fact that she served on the PTA. I couldn't stop laughing.
September 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wrote this comment a little while ago on another post
I have the Democrats Joe Liberman solution....Chuck Hagel. Some how the message should be delivered to Mr Liberman to tone down his rhetoric or he will be kicked out of the conference and Chuck Hagel will switch to Independent and caucus with the Democrats!!
Is it legal for the DNC to offer Hagel money?
September 3, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
how is this speech by Palin going to be revelatory of much of anything? it won't be written by her, and presumably will be 100% safe--not like an unscripted press conference ...
I guess if she goes in anti-abortion territory we'll know that McCain really is worried about his Christianist base, though
September 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. I don't know what she can say. So far all her biggest attributes have proved to be bullshit.
1. Against the bridge to nowhere? Nope.
2. Fiscal conservative? I guess leaving Wasilla $20 million in debt counts.
3. Anti-Earmarks? Not quite.
4. Maverick? How maverick-y is it to run Stevens' 527.
5. Country first? Well, if the AIP has their way then sure.
September 3, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I WANT MY AVATAR BACK, TPM!
September 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kickin' ass and proximity to Tehran are all very nice. I don't hear anyone asking this question: "Which candidate do you believe will give more serious consideration and incisive analysis to any issue coming to the fore?" Looks to me like we're heading for another know nothing president. - Ted
www.tedlehmann.blogspot.com
September 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
And I'm incredibly disappointed that Harry Reid continues to kiss Lieberman's ass.
September 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Reid "Disappointed" With Lieberman"
I guess ol' Harry's gonna scratch the "Joe 'n' Harry BFF" off the back of his spiral bound notebook. That'll show 'im!
In other news, Obama makes a really bad decision by going on OReilly.
Don't think for a moment he'll kick O'Reilly's ass. Have you ever seen the show? The guy's clever as shit, like a shrewd high power defense lawyer. He knows all the dirty rhetorical tricks, and his moment of glory would be to make Obama look like a fool.
Why to Democrats fucking go on FOX? All it does is validate the network. It's ill advised, accomplishes nothing, convinces nobody, and just sets themselves up.
What a bad bad bad move.
September 3, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I doubt you will say that tomorrow. Do you think Obama is going in there unprepared?
He'll have an answer for every stupid question O'Reilly asks.
I don't want a President who is scared to go onto a TV network just because they have a political bias and might ask leading/tough questions.
McCain is scared of CNN.
Obama is not scared of FOX.
September 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but when Fox has control of how the interview is edited it's always cause for concern.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
September 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should have his own camera crew there, say he's filming a documentary or something.
September 3, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, he should do the interview to be aired LIVE!!
September 3, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad that Obama, who has been such a failure in everything he has attempted, has not had you at his elbow to tell him what to do all these years. He might have gotten somewhere by now.
September 3, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Too bad that Obama, who has been such a failure in everything he has attempted, has not had you at his elbow to tell him what to do all these years. He might have gotten somewhere by now."
Sarcasm aside -- far be it from me to criticize anything a politician does in the comment section of a political website. How dare I!
It's just a fact that people who watch FOX aren't going to vote for a Democrat no matter what. For them, it's simply tribal affiliation.
The comment that FOX controls the editing is spot on. FOX doesn't play fair. That's reality.
By going on that network, Obama simply validates them, makes them look like a real network instead of a propaganda disseminator.
September 3, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe Traitorman should be publicly humiliated and excoriated by the Dems. Hell, this Dem party can't even get tough on their own rotten, traitorous, lying, laughing, sneering member as he continues to poison dems while helping repubs in everyway possible. Hell the guy has been eschewing his own duties to run around holding mcPOW's coat-tails and giving him advice. So, one of our Senior Dem Senators is playing footman for the republican candidate and their smear machines....and our Senate Leader is disappointed? If anyone deserved a public slapping and 20 days in the stocks it is Lieberman. The closest anyone has come to it is Obama dragging the basset hound/weasel hybrid off to a corner of the senate. I think B H O would volunteer to carry out the slapping part of the punishment.
September 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Joe is not a Democrat; he caucuses with the Democrats but is an Independent.
September 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
1. I think it's great Obama is going on O'Really. He has to reach out everyone, even knuckle draggers, and this is a great chance to do so. And I predict Brillo will treat him with respect.
2. Harry Reid is LAME! Liebermouse should have been banished long ago. And for those who say "but, but, but he votes with us 99% of the time!" I say the harm Ol' Joe is doing to the Dems by looking like he can push us around without recourse outwieghs any of his votes. Has there been one vote where Joe was the tie breaker? We could have dumped him long ago while still retaining our chairs until January.
3. I hope McPants does run ads comparing Palin to Obama. It just makes him look more like a delusional, out of touch fool. Meanwhile people like Leher on PBS (conventional wisdom central) has been busy asking his pundits to compare Palin to Eagleton.
September 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Obama lost a point in the latest Ras poll. It's obvious his Presidential bid is finished.
September 3, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Liebs, F you traitor!
Speaking of effective, non-wimpy responses to the GOP convention from hell... I hope Hillary issues a devastating comment tonight dressing-down Sarah Palin about 60 minutes before she hits the stage. Totally rattle her and take away her "I'm your Hillary Clinton" line of bull$hit. Hopefully they'll do a hasty re-write and she'll get confused.
September 3, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wade: Good idea. Do you really expect the D's to be that strategic?
September 3, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dr Lemming: Not if Harry Reid has somethin' to say about it.
September 3, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
LIEberman WILL be out of the Dem Senate caucus come November whether Obama wins or not. He knows it and everybody knows it.
September 3, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Loserman: the only thing the Repubs nailed.
September 3, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
ABC News is reporting that the Wasilla police chief she fired is speaking out about it. Seems he stepped on the toes of the NRA and some of her contributors:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5713866&page=1
September 3, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I want the anti-censor Librarian to come forward.
I still think Monegan has the most credibility, as he has already been proven to be telling the truth, and Palin has been proven to have lied in relation to the case. The smoking gun for me is that Palin first tried to promote Monegan out by (on video)praising his work in dealing with rural bootlegging and alcoholism, and then after he was fired one explanation Palin gave (again on video) was that he wasn't doing enough for rural bootlegging and alcoholism.
September 3, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is briar patch stuff. McCain and Lieberman WANT Holy Joe tossed, so they can point to Dems as intolerant of dissent, while the McCain GOP is about "Country First." It would be complete bullshit, but it's what they want.
Liberman will continue to be ignored for now, then kicked out of the caucus on the Wednesday morning after the election.
September 3, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is still lots more to know about Palin. I am curious as hell about this AIP. How much involvement did she personally have? This cannot be viewed as a personal attack on her family. But rather on her love of country. I have a feeling this will lead to her crash and burn finish. No foreign policy experience? She wants to rule her own damn country.
Where is my avatar? Who's talking? I can't tell the score without the avatars.
September 3, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin made the cover of US Weekly. But not in a good way.
September 3, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin made the cover of US Weekly. But not in a good way.
September 3, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is Obama doing that jackal’s show? It’s a trap
When is the brave courageous maverick or his running mate going on Countdown with Keith Olbermann?
Hell they have prohibited Palin from doing any media interviews
September 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
He is going on O'Reilly to reach McCain's and Palin's 'base' the social conservatives. He needs to work hard at getting some of those people no matter how minimal the chances are...every vote will count in Nov.
September 3, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
he doesn't need to get them. he'll never get them. what he needs is to get them to stay home.
the third option is so often overlooked (particularly with the palin pick). in november the electorate will not have to choose between two options, mccain or obama. the electorate will choose from among three options: mccain, obama, or none of the above. and the none of the above option is the one mccain needs to be most worried about.
josh posted something about mccain's base already being behind him before the palin pick. well, yes and no. yes, the generic republicans had all gotten in line. and yes, the christ-er bigwigs had also fallen in behind him. but i don't think there's a lot of evidence to suggest that the christ-er rank and file were sufficiently fired up. the palin pick seemed to do the trick. but with the knocked-up daughter story my guess is that mccain/palin keeps the hardcore anti-abortion single issue voters (she's keeping the baby so nothing else matters) and probably gets them to the polls BUT i think it's an open question whether the family values types for whom 'good girls don't' is as important as being anti-abortion will be showing up in big (enough) numbers for mccain in november.
again, it isn't that the voters for whom some of the palin family values might be an issue would be likely to vote for obama over mccain because of the pick. it's about whether they'll bother showing up for mccain.
sorry for wandering so far off-topic. most of this is in response to some things i was hearing on NPR.
September 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not worried about Obama being bested by O'Liely. But I do question the purpose of the interview: Do the Obama people think that more than a tiny fraction of Fux News viewers would actually vote for him? Come on, these are the most Neanderthal of the knuckle-dragging, dead-end Bushies. So then what else can the interview accomplish?
September 3, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's just not true. Fox's viewership is much too large to be confined to that core group.
There's also the issue of Obama not allowing the Republicans to demonize him without pushback. Most Fox viewers might not vote for him, but if they don't hate him entirely they might not be so motivated to get out and vote against him, either.
September 3, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
The medium is the message.
Just Barack's going on FOX and O'Reilly is an event, nevermind what is said. Sure, the rightwingers will snip out some soundbites that look like O'R woodshedding Obama, but there are sure to be more examples of Barack having the upper hand.
The Palin story is bound to be a topic of this discussion, so Barack's soundbites are included in every Palin story for the rest of the week -- and there will be quite a few.
September 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember that Obama thinks long-term. He is not just thinking a campaigning but of governing. When he is elected, he will be President of these people too. He can't start too early to build bridges to them so that they can support him in some difficult days coming up.
September 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Figuring out the mechanics of the selection of Palin reminds me of watching the OJ trial. We will never know for sure exactly what the timeline minute by minute was that night, but it was fascinating trying to plot it out. Similar thing here with Palin. How in the world did the process actually happen?
It seems like they did make the decision before Obama’s speech, which surprised me in a way since this did come off initially as a panicked reaction to Obama’s fantastic delivery. So sometime in the last week McCain was convinced by his advisors that Lieberman wouldn’t fly and that Pawlenty was not going to change a losing dynamic and that’s when roll the dice McCraps bet the farm on Palin.
I imagine Culvahouse dutifully going through the list even including Palin, but I wonder if in his mind she was just so clearly unfit that his team didn’t put the effort into it like for Lieb, Paw, Jindal, Ridge. Then when McCain moved Palin to the head of the list they had to cross their fingers. I would love to see a TPM timeline list of which things they knew before and when they found out about them.
AIP
Bridge to nowhere
Librarian…
September 3, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if Palin puts FL in play because of her close ties to Pat Buchanan. Jewish voters tend to think of Buchanan as Hitler's first cousin.
September 3, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you missed the other story. Two weeks ago she sat placidly while some marginal type lectured a group on God having terrorists punish Israel/Jews for who they are. Not a peep from Klondike Barbie.
On the opposite side, she has an Israel flag in one of her offices and one can find on the net some Jewish posters bubbling giddily in delight over this.
September 3, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Off topic, but does anyone know what happened to our avatars? They just vanished without a word, like purged party bosses from a photo with Stalin.
But I'm assuming its not a coincidence that comments are posting, one time and one time only, without generating an "Internal Server Error" since they left.
September 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Two important new posts:
1. Fellow POW Philip Butler's video warning against McCain: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/fellow-pow-questions-n
2. This is supposedly the 63-pg. memo of the Obama camp's criticisms/discoveries about Palin:
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_palin_doc.html
September 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure why Huffington Post site above doesn't connect--try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWEDMLmjKk
September 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm wondering why we haven't seen anything about the RNC's ratings. During the DNC we were given daily updates on the ratings of both cable and network coverage. Understandably, the ratings would have been low for the Repubs but what about yesterday? How are they faring compared to Colorado?
September 3, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm wondering why we haven't seen anything about the RNC's ratings. During the DNC we were given daily updates on the ratings of both cable and network coverage. Understandably, the ratings would have been low for the Repubs but what about yesterday? How are they faring compared to Colorado?
September 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
In regards to Heather Wilson...on MSNBC last night, she referred to Joe Lieberman as the Democrat VP choice "four years ago" twice - when we all know it was 8 years ago.
Is this a honest slip or a conscious attempt to make Joe's transformation seem more recent?
September 3, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
It ain't no "slip," cosmic brother, she just doesn't know from shinola is all!
September 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hanlon's razor.
September 3, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell is Obama campaign thinking??? Going on the O'Reilley factor merely helps to legitimize this clown as somehow important to political discourse. It will end up being detrimental...I mean what do they expect because only repukes of the lowest caliber watch that show and O'Reilley himself certainly isn't bright enough to do anything but yell and demean Obama. Did he learn nothing from Saddleback? This from driftglass:
"...After all, if the last 30 years of GOP politics has proven anything, it’s that Conservative horse-shit has a "strong influence on the weak-minded".
…1. Never trust these motherfuckers. Ever. They will never leave the business of winning and losing to anything that smells of "free and fair", because they know if they do they'll lose every time. Every game they run is crooked, every piety they utter is a lie, and every deck they deal from is stacked, marked and frozen.
So...
2. Never, ever fight them on ground of their choosing.
Don't be fooled by the bigmouth braggarts of the right wing...we have the numbers and Obama will win in a landslide...but these McCain people need to be exposed to the point that they are thrown out of government service altogether. This election is the most important of American History for we are at the point of no return. Once we cross that line of another 4yrs of repub rule our democracy and our environment are doomed permanently. The rich will build their shelters and the poor will die. McCain's insane and will get us all killed. Don't let him steal this election.
September 3, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Considering all Sarah Palin's wealth of experience why is she being so closely shielded by the McCain camp? Obama is so inexperienced and he's going on O'Reilly for crying out loud.John McCain cancels Larry King-if you can't stand the heat.....
September 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quite honestly, I don't buy the "GOP is desperate" line. McCain may be desperate, but I see what is going on as exactly what the hard-core republicans wanted. I mean, now they can go on and on on the "liberal media." In an election where they are "fact challenged" being able to attack the media like that is a plus for them.
Think about it: for all their alleged "rage" over how Palin is being treated, the only thing that prompted them to actually cancel interview was the only legitimate question asked of them all weekend. It seems to me that they knew, and now keep inviting, attacks on Palin's personal life so they can try and counter any serious assertions with "liberal media" chants. Why else would they cancel an interview over Campbell's questions, but keep interviews with anyone who actually attacked them on Palin's personal life? Why would they drag Palin's baby's father to the national spotlight if they weren't relishing the attention?
In a year where every fact seems to go against them, this seems carefully planned: invite an overreach on an irrelevant issue so you can claim bias on the relevant ones.
September 3, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
attacking the media is a loser. especially for mccain. and more particularly it's a loser on the palin issue.
it's a loser for mccain because the media hasn't kissed his all these years because they're afraid of him. they've kissed his ass because they were in love with him. the bloom is now off the rose but he doesn't want their 'drifting apart' to turn into an ugly bitter break-up.
and on the palin issue you can put lipstick on a pig but don't expect folks to line up at the kissing booth for a make-out session. damage control is the best mccain can hope for here. pushing back too hard will only make matters worse unless the only audience you're trying to reach are the people who want you to lie to them.
September 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't feel sympathy for Michael Moore, his strong support for Nadir in 2000 contributed to the closeness of the FL vote that led to W being crowned emperor of New America by the council of sages.
Had Moore supported Gore, or perhaps better yet - kept his mouth shut, or just directly attacked Bush, Lieberman would still be quietly holed up in some undisclosed location Gore could have arranged for him to hide should 9.11 actually have happened under Gore's watch - or he could be slinking off into his political twilight as the VP who couldn't pick up his party's nomination to succeed a successful Al Gore Presidency.
September 3, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink