CBS To Air More Footage Of Couric Interviewing Palin This Week
A CBS source confirms to me that more footage of Sarah Palin being interviewed by Katie Couric will indeed air this week, in advance of the debate.
The question of whether there's more footage of Couric talking to Palin arose this morning after Howard Kurtz published a column with this buried at the end:
And the worst may be yet to come for Palin; sources say CBS has two more responses on tape that will likely prove embarrassing.
The CBS source clarifies to me that these taped responses from Palin are not a part of the big trainwreck interview that aired last week.
Rather, the source says, in addition to the big interview, Couric also interviewed Palin as part of its Vice Presidential Questions series, in which the same questions were also posed to Joe Biden.
Couric's interviews with both Veep contenders will air on Wednesday and Thursday. I couldn't verify Kurtz's contention that Palin's answers will "likely prove embarrassing," but we now know that they will definitely air.

Well I'm willing to bet that it will be embarrassing - what hasn't been?
Seriously - she got so many points at the convention for not throwing up or crying during her speech that this is what she gets and what the campaign gets.
Ha ha - I can't wait.
September 29, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm hoping for some unscripted 'end-times' gibberish. Maybe something about it being cool to use up all the oil because the world's going to end soon anyway.
That would seal the casket, on both Palin and McCain's quest for the White House.
September 29, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Somewhere at some point Palin went off on dinosaurs and people inhabiting this planet together.
God I hope it's in these tapes!!!
September 29, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would love it if they've got a response to an Iraq question where Palin invokes "God's Will". That would be spectacular.
September 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think I found religion. I'm starting to have some real hope that The End Times are upon us ...
...The Repugnican End Times.
September 29, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
More embarrassing than she's already been? What does she do, pull down her skirt and sing "On A Clear Day You Can See Forever"?
September 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
My fingers are crossed... please please please be substantive and coherent in your response. That way, the expectations game will be at least somewhat more favorable for the Obama/Biden Camapign.
Give that Canada and Russia are in the state where she is the executive of... I'm not holding my breath.
September 29, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem, for Palin, is that the Couric interview is already out there, and SNL seized the advantage.
And the bigger problem for Palin may be the fact that the McCain campaign has banned MoDo from the plane.
(I think MoDo should have been banned from the Op-Ed pages years ago, but I digress).
September 29, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes - I'm convinced that that interview was a death knell to her career and there's nothing they can do that will erase that or make it up.
September 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Death Knell. Is that the Bell from the Bell Curve that she broke?
The bell around her neck? That's attached to the Titanic?
September 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
When tyrants tremble sick with fear
And hear their death-knell ringing
When friends rejoyce both far and near
How can I keep from singing?
- trad
September 29, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The McCain campaign is retaliatory. Notice how the only network not getting a Palin interview is NBC -- and Couric will be on her second round with a McCain-Palin combo this week. I hate MoDo, but keeping her from the plane will definitely create retaliation of its own.
September 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You betcha!
Boy, there is NO ONE I would AGAINST me like MoDo!
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September 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry... no one I would WANT against me.
September 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
If they ban her from the plane, MoDo will just write about imaginary scenarios which will be even more catty and mocking that what she would have written about actual events.
September 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
We know that now every time Sarah talks to a camera, most of the audience (and all of the punditry) will be looking for the soundbites that will make SNL.
She has achieved official punchline status.
September 29, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg? Do you know if this Veep questions interview came before, or after, the big interview, or were they part of the big interview?
Just curious.
September 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't CBS release the raw footage of the McCain interview conducted by Couric online? Isn't that their SOP in dealing with interviews?
September 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I could be wrong, but it makes sense for them to hang on to the full interview until after they've aired all the segments from it that they wish to show. It'll probably get released once they've milked it for ratings.
September 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Palin pick may well go down as one of the worst political gambles in history.
He picked her for petty reasons, hoping she'd be the new darling of the nation. He was just so jealous of Obama, he let his grudge eclipse reason.
Now after a brief honeymoon, She is sucking up all the oxygen in the room for wrong reasons. McCain lost his experience theme by picking her. He is now forced to pull a bizzare stunt every week to keep people looking the other way. And when he desperately wants to attack and focus on Obama, he is forced to spending time, money and resources defending her, sheilding her.
So far she has been a utter miscalculation, a big liability to his efforts.
September 29, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kash - there is no "maybe" about it - she is the worst political mistake evah.
September 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think if you consider long-term political mistakes, the worst one for the Republican party was the 2000 nomination of George W. Bush.
September 29, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I agree. You can't argue with that - Commander Coocoo Bananas destroyed the Repug Party and the Conservative Movement.
So yeah, I would not argue with that. But Palin is right up there.
September 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Dubya a mole for Louis Farrakhan?
September 29, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or, Palin is the worst tactical mistake. Bush was the worst strategic mistake.
September 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
September 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Haha. Nailed it.
September 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
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September 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's dead weight for the campaign. This was almost immediately apparent as soon as she was named because VP's should not attract as much attention as this one did. First, there was the "she's a total unknown" disorienting everybody. Then it was "she was not vetted" and when the MSM got over that, the disastrous interviews starting with "in what respect Charlie?" How does a campaign become effective after all that when there is so much to bad impressions to overcome and so little time left to establish credibility
September 29, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The expectations game will not help Palin.
Her stupidity is out there for all the nation to see, regardless of how she does.
Biden doesn't need to attack her at all.
She will self-destruct all on her own, because she has NO CLUE.
September 29, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word straight up.
September 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's still a pretty interesting challenge for Biden though, don't you think? Can't be too mean. Can't be too condescending. He's going to have pull punches through the whole debate or he'll look like Mike Tyson beating up Caribou Barbie. I wonder what the strategy is.
September 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Biden attacking Palin will be an issue.
The debate format does not include back-and-forth exchange like the prez debates do. All biden will have to do is answer Gwen Ifill's questions.
September 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but the format calls for NO follow up questions, even from the moderator, so if Palin can memorize several 90 second segments--one on the bailout, one on the war on terror, etc--she can just plug them in for each of the questions, whether or not the answer really fits the question. The thing that made her seem so stupid with Couric and Gibson is that they did ask followup questions.
That's what all presidential debators do, for the most part--steer the question to the talking points. Palin, of course, can't even steer, nor can she reiterate the talking points using different words (see Davis, Rick). Still, I think without followup questions, it might seem to the TV audience that she is answering the questions. And it sounds like they are prepping her to be particularly insulting to Obama, so it might be hard for Biden to not respond to her at all.
I think she will beat the expectations game by not looking so moose-in-headlights, and by getting in lots of contemptuous zingers, but I hope the audience will still see Biden as someone far more competent, coherent and qualified. If he stays affable, then people will have seen two likable candidates versus two nasty candidates and, one hopes, will make the better choice.
September 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree: Palin will come off in the debate better than she did in the Kouric and Gibson interviews because she will have memorized pages of simplistic talking points and nasty zingers. (Any guesses how many times she will use the words "maverick" and "reform"?)
Biden will look and do his best by simply ignoring her. Using common sense against someone who doesn't seem to grasp the logic of spoken language would be an exercise in futility and frustration. Palin is not worth his effort especially since nothing he can say will make her look worse than what she says herself--scripted or not. Let Palin dispatch Palin. Biden's job is to make the case for Obama and against McCain with the right mix of passion, seriousness, and affability. I hope he has the discipline to stay on task.
September 29, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Finally, a reason to watch CBS News for a change.
September 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking the same thing. I'll bet that Couric is thanking the Media Gods that Palin did the gaffe-filled interview with her instead of Gibson or Hannity (*shudder*). I'll bet that the Palin interview has dramatically increased Couric -- and CBS' visibility in the network news race.
http://thepajamapundit.com/
September 29, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frankly, I am thanking the Gods Couric is the new CBS evening news anchor, if only because it gave Palin a chance to look this dumb while being interviewed by a woman.
September 29, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who knows? Maybe she's just look more like a "mom" whom other "moms" can relate to.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/sep/28/uselections2008.sarahpalin
September 29, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'd think moms (of hockey culture and otherwise) would recognize the undeniable stench of a dirty diaper.
September 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
These ladies had most probably not yet seen the Couric Palin interview back when this video was shot. Any hockey mom who still identifies herself with Palin after watching the interview must not think much of herself at all.
September 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if McCain's next stunt will be to vote against the bailout package? Might not work for him, but then again he has to something provocative.
September 29, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This will definitely not work for him because he explicitly said in the debates, before even knowing the details, that he will support. It will be a flip-flop so enormous Obama does not even need to run ads about it.
September 29, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotta love this from the AP:
Hopes to be able to vote?!
So, um, ahhh, McCain will be in Washington.... but might not vote on the most important vote in his career b/c of "schedule"????? Huh?!?!
September 29, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
After making a big production about suspending his campaign ostensibly to bring all parties to "kick start" a supposedly stalled process the best he can do in the end is hope he can be there? What an idiot. In any case the bail out died in the House leaving McCain with a well deserve big zero.
September 29, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The McCain Camp is changing tactics with Palin and are going to allow her to be interviewed by all comers (except the NBC folks). It seems they realize hiding her away isn't working as her favorables are crashing and she's put under too much pressure and too much focus on the interviews she does give. If they allow her to have more interviews, she'll be under less pressure and more comfortable and it will both lessen the effects of her disastrous interviews and allow folks to get to see the "real Sarah Palin".
Also they don't want the debate to be the end-all with her. I have a feeling that they'll probably book interviews for after the debate and if she does poorly she'll give the interviews, but if she does well they'll cancel them all.
September 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Link, please?
September 29, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was at HuffPo, however I think I totally misread what they were saying. She is being "liberated" for the debate - to attack Biden and go on the offensive as a combative conservative in the vice-presidential debate. And the "Another CBS interview" was the "Vice Presidential Series"...
I erroneously read it as she was being liberated to more interviews.
September 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Little Billy Kristol opined that she was going to be "liberated" to go after Biden as well. I hope he confines his attacks to McCain.
September 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
How does that make any sense? The only way attacking your opponent or going on the offense works is if you have the credibility to do it. She doesn't. The CW now is that she's a lightweight. Who's going to take her attacks seriously?
September 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
No one.
I agree with you, Schrodinger's Cat.
She has nothing that anyone can take seriously.
September 29, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
But it's wrongwrongwrongwrong to attack Palin, it's a mistake, America loves her, it's gonna backfire, you're all just a bunch of Oilbamabots!
Why won't anybody listen to meeeeeeee!!111!11
September 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign does not need to attack Palin. There are plenty of others doing that, left right and center. I think Joe Biden needs to be careful in the debate to target McCain, not Palin. Leave the ridicule to others, just stick to the facts. And always make McCain the target.
September 29, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know. ;) I was just temporarily possessed by a troll who can't tell the difference between comments on a blog and the Obama campaign.
September 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are so funny - you have posted some the funniest stuff ever since Palin was announced.
September 29, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's cuz he's an Idiot who's Got a Lust For Life.
September 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT, but should be done. Here is info and email address.
'Fort Hill, SC Mayor Danny Funderburk said he forwarded a chain email suggesting Barack Obama is the antichrist because he was "just curious" if it was true:
I was just curious if there was any validity to it," Funderburk said in a telephone interview. "I was trying to get documentation if there was any scripture to back it up."
The e-mail, which has circulated in the last six months, claims the biblical book of Revelation says the antichrist will be in his 40s and of Muslim ancestry. The Charlotte Observer reports, "There is no such scripture. And Obama is not a Muslim. But that hasn't stopped the e-mail."
If you would like to give him your personal comments, his e-mail address is:
mayor@dannyfunderburk.com
September 29, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've always wondered how Scripture could say anything at all about Muslims, since Mohammed wasn't born until 570AD.
September 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Prophecy, silly!
September 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's his mayoral email: dfunderburk@fortmillsc.org
September 29, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, for people who are supposed to be such "Bible-believing Christians," they sure are ignorant as to what's actually *written* in it and their responsibility to know the Word for themselves.
Besides, if he has questions, then he's supposed to go see where it's referred to in scripture. If it's not there, then you've done your "research."
Dumb asses. I love when it's shown that they don't "know the Bible" at all, and they look stupid. Ignorant even in their own religion that they "love" so much.
September 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the email address. I am a little slower than you younger folks, but I sent this missive to him:
am presuming that to attain the high office of mayor, you've had at least some education. To suggest that you sent out emails out of curiosity seems not only inappropriate, but not the sort of thing a government official should be doing on the tax payer's dime. But then again things may be slightly different in your community.
It is dangerous to mix your particular religion with the public interest, as not every citizen in your or any other community in this country ascribe to your religion.
Champion whomever you wish, it is your right as a citizen, but please adhere to the establishment clause.
Hope there were not too many big words in this email.
September 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know how this election will turnout. Finally, thanks to Gov.Palin, republicans are the ones scared, worried and on the defensive this election. Image the terror in the eyes of those formerly bullish rethugs, while we wait for the new footage with anticipation and excitment they must be shivering while they freeze.
Love it!!!
September 29, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
All in baby!
(Cindy honey, I need more money)
September 29, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sweet.
September 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not possible for a response to be more embarrassing than the ones she's already given. In fact, due to low expectations about anything that comes out of her mouth, even more gibberish will be treated with a shrug.
I just hope Biden is preparing well for Thursday. He'll be walking a tightrope.
September 29, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can I ask why it is that people constantly put the burden on Biden and Obama?
Why isn't the burden on McLame and Palin in your mind? Why always Obama and Biden?
September 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Biden has more to lose. Everyone already expects Palin to be terrible. And Biden has a well-known penchant for saying the thing that's just a little off and can be construed as offensive, even if that's not what he meant. Anything like that will be blown up in this debate.
September 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because the election is Obama's to lose, not McCain's to win.
September 29, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bullshit.
McLame is behind - he's losing. If he wants to win, he's got the burden to make up for what ground he's lost.
September 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
In a sane world, you'd be right. But in this world, you have to be careful not throw something out there that you know will cause a conniption fit. True, there's no predicting how the absurd up-is-down fair-and-balanced crowd will respond. But there are certain things you know you can't do. Gloating, hitting-when-down, showing off, etc. are clearly things to avoid.
Just being sensible, fair, and polite is the thing to do.
September 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I realize Obama has done a wonderful job and we tend to look at the leader in the polls as the one who is the one who will take it, but we need to reset.
McCain is part of the incumbent party. He is the experienced Washington leader, ex-POW, and elder statesman. Obama is a junior senator with much less experience, his middle name is Hussein in America, and he is a minority. Let's not forget who the underdog is here. McCain is flaming so much because this thing is his to lose. Obama has no business being where he is, but he is there and that says something about who he is.
Please, don't forget who the underdog is. It's not McCain, this is the Republicans White House to lose. They have it, they live in it, Dems are the outsiders.
As odd as it looks, Palin is the one who should be defending why we need more Republican. Biden needs to explain why we don't, and if putting her in her place, gently or not, needs to be done.
September 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's truly unbelievable. Someone who couldn't hold her own in a Poli Sci discussion at the local community college vs. 20+ year senator and highly intelligent on foreign policy, and now, all of the sudden, it's the experienced ones problem. It makes no sense! Regardless of sex, people deserved to be put in their place, whether that is a winner or loser.
This is not an Obama/Biden problem, this is a dangerously inexperienced bad Disney movie problem. If she stinks, she stinks.
Obama/Biden are leading for a reason, the stress isn't on them, it's on McCain and Palin. They are the ones who should be walking a tightrope because they could easily fall by the wayside to make room for a landslide.
September 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because the burden is always on the reasonable people. It is the price of responsibility.
September 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
No it isn't.
The burden was on McLame last Friday and he failed to meet it.
Y'all are totally backwards.
September 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. I know you mean well, but wrong. I'm tired of being reasonable - of carrying the burden the past 8 years - Bu$hCo f*'s up, I and my fellow citizens are responsible for cleaning up the mess.
September 29, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Biden will be walking a tightrope. He is totally prepared and she put herself in the VP position by accepting. Anything is fair game, she wants equality for women, she is getting it, period.
September 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
Also, any potential malapropism by Biden will be overshadowed by the rest of the debate: Palin being a rambling fool and Biden being experienced and sharp.
The chances of there being ONE gaffe by Biden that takes over the entire media narrative of the debate is pretty much zero.
Even with the pathetic MSM memes to date, Palin rants are ratings gold.
I agree with TenaX. Burden of proof is entirely on McShame/Puppet.
September 29, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's the Harriet Miers of the McPain campaign.
September 29, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
F**king unbelievable. Huffington Post headlines:
Obama plans to return to Senate to vote for bailout. Meanwhile, a spokesman for John McCain said the Republican nominee plans to be in Washington and hopes he'll be able to vote, 'depending on the schedule.'
September 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Country First, if I can fit it into my schedule"
September 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotta get those naps in, dontcha know.
September 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why can't he just suspend his campaign again? I mean it was so important before, why isn't it important to vote on it? Maybe because he's playing politics with it...
September 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy, I hope this gets out there.
His campaign is a gift that keeps on giving at this point.
September 29, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would pay any amount to watch John McCain sing this song karaoke style to Sarah Palin. Priceless...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXUgtEe99ZY
September 29, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
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September 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't WAIT!!!!
All but one of the indies and repubs I know who were on the fence moved right into the Obama camp after those Palin interviews.
Now we're just waitin' on Mom! I think a little more Palin will do it.
September 29, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
This interveiw will take some of the pressure off Biden Thursday night. As long as he isn't completely gaffe free, the attention will be focused as much on the Couric interview as on that night's debate. Imagine all those warm-up shows playing that tape over and over again. If not already, the audience will be predisposed to look for more signs that Popeye's ship is taking on water.
September 29, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem for the Republicans, McCain and Palin is that any interview,with the exception of those conducted by people like Hannity (which aren't really interviews anyway), will show her for what she is.
September 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beware skull-fuckery. Kurtz is a right-wing shill. By announcing it could get worse, he's helping to set the bar low so that if her answers are minimally coherent, the Right will come out and announce, "See? She's not bad at all! She's ready! It's a left-wing conspiracy to paint her as incompetent!"
The bar is set so low for the debate she can only come out looking good - right?!?!?!
September 29, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Give me a break!
I'm sick of these conspiracy theories about expectations. They've been all over the place since was announced. When has she not been an embarrassment?
Come on -
September 29, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
agree
With Obama, it seems no matter how high the bar is raised he still exceeds expectations.
With Palin, it seems no matter how low the bar is she still fails to meet expectations.
The debate will not be good for Sarah Palin.
September 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly right.
If she doesn't set her hair on fire Thursday, she'll "win".
September 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which is bullshit.
The reason most pundits thought Obama won the first debate was strictly because McLame didn't do enough to win it.
See where the burden was, folks?
September 29, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, have you taken some sort of dose of rationality this morning?
Seriously?
In a rational world, of course the expectations would be extremely high for Palin because of that disastrous interview. However, this isn't a rational environment. This is Republican dominated politics with a lap-dog media mentality covering it.
Of course the expectations for McCain should have been higher, but again, we're still dominated by the same fucking mindset that told us Bush was a good guy, that the Administration knew what it was doing pre-Iraq, and the media did a pretty good job covering the issues leading up to the war.
C'mon. You know this.
September 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear hear.
September 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Not soiling herself=a win for Plain" is what the pundits will say. Most people don't know her really well, though. These people will be nauseated by whatever she says.
September 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
DAmmit - I don't think so.
IT didn't work for McLame last Friday did it? Didn't they put the burden on McLame and didn't they all say he failed to meet it?
sheeeeit
September 29, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
My recollection is that most pundits thought McCain did fine, tying or small win. Of course, the polls told a completely different story.
September 29, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Darlin - go back adn reread.
Every one of them said it was more or less a tie but - BUT - since McLame came in behind he had more ground to make up and didn't. Therefore, it was a technical win for Obama, according to every single rightwing writer and most of the rest.
September 29, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking more of the instant reaction. You are correct about the columns over the weekend about the debate. However, everyone I saw (Matthews, Wolfie, etc) right after the debate talked incessantly about chances for Obama which he did not take.
September 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that McCain & Obama both did well on Friday. The problem is, for Palin, that they set the bar. No matter what the expectations game, if she can't come close to McCain, Obama, & Biden, no spin is going to help her.
He says in a rational moment, realizing that rationality has nothing to do with Republicans and their views...
September 29, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd rather see this material on Saturday, right after the "debate". It's getting to the point where if she doesn't look like Adm. Stockdale, it'll be perceived as a win for her.
September 29, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
O o o o!
O I'm so happy - Mukasey said "yes" to a special prosecutor to investigate the DOJ firings.
Alright!
September 29, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shit! Now they're saying she's a prosecutor, but not "special."
God I hate these games. I just hate them = they have destroyed the rule of law with this shit.
September 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not a special prosecutor; just a prosecutor. The Justice Department is still investigating itself.
September 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
>>>But it's wrongwrongwrongwrong to attack Palin, it's a mistake, America loves her, it's gonna backfire, you're all just a bunch of Oilbamabots!>>>
Despite my flaming partisanship, I've reached the point where I am no longer comfortable rooting for Palin to fail more. She will fail. She has failed. It is getting to the point where you have to feel for her. It's embarrassing and it isn't really her fault. She just doesn't know about present day issues. She just doesn't.
Granted, she shouldn't have taken the nomination. But how was she to have known that? Her worldview is very simplistic, and she was being told by the party that she was ready and that they needed her. Where was she supposed to get the information that this was almost guaranteed to be an embarrassment? She was supposed to know more than them?
It's a bad feeling. McCain, or more appropriately the Kristol crowd, should be answering for this, not this poor dim bulb they have used and embarrassed. I'm not looking forward to more of the interviews at all.
September 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
O god.
Feel for her? I don't think so.
Thank God that a woman is moderating this debate. I'm fed up with the guys who are starting to feel sorry for the "little lady."
September 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree almost completely. Her actions in AK prove to me that, while she may not be the sharpest bulb in the drawer policy or information-wise, she is a political animal. And as, such, she isn't even *that* sharp of one...
I only feel sorry for the family.
September 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
She may be a political animal, but that does nothing for you in a debate.
NOTHING. All that means is you know how to work your contacts and networks and how to stab someone in the back. That's all it means.
September 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
It isn't her fault? Are you kidding? She could've easily "blinked" and saved her, her family, and the nation this embarrasment. Instead, she chose to believe that running the United States of American is the same as running an Alaskan town of 6,000 people. Any sane, responsible professional understands their own limitations. Charlie Gibson was right: it was "hubris".
September 29, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
And if she understood the meaning of "hubris" she might not have agreed...
September 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry!
I have no pity for the people who ripped up our constitution ... and none for their useful idiots who cannot find the Pacific Ocean on a globe.
Deep, wise, serious people should be running our government.
September 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have you ever met these type of "church lady" people? The ones who seem nice, until they start talking as if all the homos, muslims and scary blacks should be sent to camps.
String her up by the heels and field-dress her.
September 29, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
In July Palin gave an interview wherein the host asked her if she'd like to be chosen as VP running mate. THIS is the interview that should be endless loops on news shows, SNL's is amusing, Couric's amusing, but her own serious response from July is shocking for the simple reason this bimbette clearly is NOT QUALIFIED as she herself confessed:
She kittenishly stated she had no idea what the Vice President's job is or what a VP does all day, would prefer to be governor since she likes to stay busy. I've seen the video online but cannot recall which site had it embedded. Memory holds it was a YouTube video.
As for her "foreign affairs" expertise . . with Palin's premise if one changes a flat tire in a hospital parking lot . . One is then qualified to perform brain surgery and be ensconced in the hospital administrator's corner office.
September 29, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, my husband is the most non-political, fair minded person I know, and he cannot make it through a seven minute clip of this woman. He thinks she is an embarrassment and frankly, an idiot.
Face it. The debate will be watched like a SNL skip, only the horror will set in when you realize this is real life.
September 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
script.
September 29, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could there be mention of a lifeline?
September 29, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone still think Palin might be bailin'?
September 29, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You betcha!!!
Bailin' the Titanic. Fast as she can...
September 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm putting money on her dropping out right after the debate, may be next week.
But again I admit I'm a little giddy.
September 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
And BTW, I now abhor Bill Clinton. The interview yesterday did it. He should STFU. Go away.
September 29, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really. I've had enough of the Big Dawg's little sideslips and two steps when he asked what he thinks.
Thank god for Hillary.
September 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Last week Scarborough said Couric asked Palin what the worst thing Cheney has done and she replied 'shot his friend with the gun.' This would be the type of question Couric would ask in the Vice Presidential Questions Series would it not?
September 29, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Expect Sarah Palin to win the debate.
Let me explain why you should tell people to do so, and settle for nothing less from her.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/expect-sarah-palin-to-win-the.php
September 29, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I cannot wait to see this potentially embarrassing Sarah Palin, then again can't she get anymore embarrassing. footage. It will be festoon with goodies...lol
September 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
"then again can't she get anymore embarrassing."
Oh, ye of little faith.
September 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Biden has to be careful with a damn thing. If this broad can spew out talking points of unbelievable bullshit, then I say Biden should take the gloves off. I surely hope Gwen Ifill asks about abortion when it comes to rape and incest. I don't believe I'm saying this, but if the choice november 4th was between McCowbell and Bush, I would choose the lesser of two stupids.
September 29, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you and once again - love the Nas reference for an avatar.
I practically worship Nas.
September 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
smile!!! Nas brings the Cowbell!!!!!!!!
September 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, given the demonstations against her in AK recently and her own skeletons up there, maybe McNap kills two birds with one stone: his candidacy and her governorship.
Thanks, John!
September 29, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the folks in Alaska who have spoken out against her know how vindictive she is and will try to use Troopergate to get her out of Office, otherwise two years of her abusing her power for revenge could be in their future.
September 29, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sure would hate to be living in Alaska if she looses given her reputation.
September 29, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
Let us be the first to know when this tape airs!
September 29, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Diana Villiers would make a much better VP in my opinion...much more articulate.
September 29, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was surprised that the headline "Just How "Special" Is She?" didn't apply to Palin.
I am starting to think we have all been hoodwinked, and she is going to astound the world on Thursday by revealing the cure for cancer and a grand unified theory of physics, all while speaking in Latin. And then she will kill a moose with her bare, well-manicured hands.
September 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay! That's why I haven't been able to understand her sentence structure. She's speaking Latin! Thanks for the tip!
Illegitimi non Carborundun!
September 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. That should have been Illegitimi non Carborundum
September 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Top 5 Palin Scandals
http://www.newsone.com/elections/article/top-5-palin-scandals
September 29, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like your handle.
September 29, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi,
I'm a relative newcomer (a month or so) to the Cafe, but I really enjoy everyone's comments.
I agree that Biden should refrain from attacking Palin. The only exception would be if she starts blathering that she is qualified to be VP. Then its open season on her. I have to think that Gwen Ifil will ask at least one question to Caribou Barbie about her qualifications. I think that Biden should answer in response that: "I think its up to the American people to decide that question. I will say that I think I come to this position far better prepared than Governor Palin."
September 29, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Refrain is the best policy when dealing with a debate where the opposition is clearly the underdog. Let their words and actions to the questions asked speak for them selves
However, if Palin attempts to disparage Biden's record in a verbal duel, he then has free reins to give her a broadside and sink her on the spot. Especially since her own record in Alaska is being kept underwraps where there may actually be some serious allegations of ethical transgression that may be considered impeachable by the Alaska Legislature.
September 29, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=oro2Yh9HoEM
Palin was on Kudlow stating she doesn't know what VP does all day, he confesses he's in the White House all the time and can assure her, the VP is very busy.
You have to listen to Kudlow's yelling questions for a few minutes and her nasal responses until he gets to the VP issue.
There is yet another of her interviews that she's more specific in her confession with added giggles....but I can't tolerate listening to the nasal twang long enough to find her extended discussion on VP's job description.
She was prompted to be on several of the GOP's talking point host shows because of the oil drilling whining . . she's got a video resume thanks to the oil issue.
September 29, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah Palin - The Post Turtle
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.
The old rancher said, ' Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.'
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.
The old rancher said, ' When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.'
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.
' You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with.'
September 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good one.
September 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The idea that anyone should go easy on Palin is really silly. Biden himself put it well on MSNBC last Friday, saying that it would be the most condescending thing he could do.
All Joe has to do is avoid:
a.) Calling her a hick
and
b.) Reacting negatively to anything she says about being supermom.
September 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a chess game with a weak Queen being played to draw attention away from a vulnerable King trying to regroup for an attack. The Queen is expendable as she distracts the opponents attention away from the strategy being formulated using other weaker noble pieces.
September 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, but I have another chess analogy.
McCain is a reckless player. Attack, attack, attack, usually unconventionally, with no regards for a unified strategy or defense. Reckless players will often defeat better players who don't understand the fundamentals of the game. They try to reply unconventionally and lose because they're playing the reckless player's game.
A master can easily defeat a reckless player by keeping the fundamentals in mind. Play for position, build your lead slowly, show patience. Then, when you've built up an substantial advantage, go all in and decapitate your opponent.
Sound like anything we're seeing here?
September 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good news for Palin!
VP Cheney has been so impressed with her defense of the GOP that he's invited her to go hunting with him!
Ok, maybe not such good news for her...
September 29, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
All I want is an unlabeled map at the VP debate: find Iraq, find Afghanistan, find Georgia.
September 29, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, sh*t, Georgia's right next to Alabama! And if the Russkies invade it again, we oughta nuke'em!
September 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have one question why are they hold the interviews, are they editing them like they did last time, or does the McCain campaign have to approve them first? I'm not understanding how the come out days after another.
Thank you, to whom ever clears this up for me.
September 29, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just want to comment on the conventional wisdom(?) of those who consider Bill Clinton a sellout because he is perhaps overly gracious to McCain and Palin (in other words, just like Obama was in the debate agreeing with McCain over and over).
In every appearance Bill has made over the last three weeks and including the convention - he has said that Obama would make a better president than McCain and why - and he's also the co-leader of the Democrats.
Why would he want to feed raw meat to the Republican base by blasting their ticket and having his negative comments about McCain or worse, about hot number Palin (OMG can you feel the outrage about lecher Bill?) become a prevailing issue (see Carter, Palestinians, and Israel)? Do you think the McCain camp wouldn't put out an ad about it?
Clinton is a Democrat first, a team player just like Hillary is, and if he is being overly nice to McCain and Palin - it's because of his own winning instincts and I'd be willing to bet in large part because the Obama campaign asked him to be this way - deferential to a fault and thus less chance of pissing off right-leaning independent voters.
IMHO
September 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, there seems to be some confusion about these purported tapes. CBS told Huffington Post today that there aren't any more tapes from last week's Couric interview.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/cbs-theres-no-more-palin_n_130231.html
September 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about that. Given McCain's age and health issues, I think it's important for Biden to keeping reminding Americans that the know-nothing Palin is thisclose to becoming President.
September 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will be as astonished as anyone if Palin does at all well on Thursday... but remember, the expectations for her are fantastically low, and those for Biden are very, very high... so, with the way things have gone recently (ie, bizarre public perception... I am astounded every day at her remaining fans, and they are legion), not setting her hair on fire may well be all she needs to do. However, what I find beautiful is the fact that a highly respected, intelligent, and articulate woman is the moderator... just think of the contrast. Katie has, in the past, struggled to not come off as "cute," but in her interview with Palin the contrast was striking. Now imagine Palin vs Ifill. I look forward to just watching that juxtaposition... for as long as I can bear to watch that lunacy at all.
September 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I am stupid enough to step in the ring with a heavyweight champion, I deserve to have may ass handed to me. And I also deserve to pay the medical bills. I do not deserve to say, "go easy on me, I am just a puny little shmuck".
Joe Biden knows many ways of demonstrating her incompetence without a direct attack. Particularly for 90 minutes, which gives plenty of time to try to explain away McCain's positions on the bailout, foreign policy, Alaska vs. Russia, military resources, new conflicts, global job competition, the devaluing of the dollar, Gitmo, PATRIOT Act, CIA rendition, etc., etc., She immediately contradicted him on the ONE question she did answer the other day. Then he sent her to Arizona.
Some huge things to remember: "100 years in Iraq." Alaska has less than 1 million people in it, the US has over 300 million.
For me the biggest question--Cheney became the all-time most powerful VP, and usually not for the better. What will change under Palin or Biden? Do they put it back or keep expanding? Was it legal? What will happen now?
And really, just let her spout off. She is not focused enough to avoid being completely rattled after the first good answer or two from Biden. she will be freaked out and incoherent, regardless of a good start.
All he needs to do is work his game.
Abraham Lincoln said, "Better for people to think me an idiot than for me to open my mouth and remove all doubt."
September 29, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Surely you mean : On a Clear Day You can see Russia ?
September 30, 2008 12:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is my hero.
It took massive balls to select Palin as his running mate. I mean, she is going to cost him the election but he said "screw you policy adviser guy......she is one hot governor."
That's probably why he waddles when he walks. People think it's his war injuries and age but I think it's his massive testicles.
Massive.
September 30, 2008 1:08 AM | Reply |