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Bill Clinton: Obama "Will Win And Win Handily"
Bill Clinton just wrapped up lunch with Barack Obama, and in a quick back-and-forth with reporters, revealed that he'd be doing lots of campaigning for Obama and predicted a sizable Obama win. From the pool report:
Q: [Bill is asked whether he'll go on the campaign trail for Obama.]Bill: "I'm going out there as soon as my global initiative is over."
Obama: "We're putting him to work."
Q: Will you be out frequently?
Bill: "I've agreed to do a substantial number of things. Whatever I'm asked to do."
Q: What do you think of the state of the race?
Bill: "I predict that Sen. Obama will win and win handily."
Obama: "There you go. You can take it from the President of the United States. He knows a little something about politics."
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!!!!!!!!!!!Fired Up, Ready To Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill is right. We will win.
September 11, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds good to me. One of our advantages is that we've got multiple top-level people out there speaking independently: Obama, Biden, Hillary, Bill.
As long as they insist on keeping Palin tethered to McCain, they're going to be running 1 ground event for every 2 or 3 we run.
September 11, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
To find "Obama will win handily" in a post by Eric is pretty funny.
September 11, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm just surprised he was able to come to a conclusion about anything without some poll numbers to guide him.
September 11, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm looking forward to his post on the results of the 2012 election.
"Obama clings to the Presidency after winning 310 EVs"
September 11, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
What should I eat for breakfast today...hmmmm...well, 47% say cereal while 44% say waffles. Hmmm, that's just barely outside the 2.5 margin of error, I guess cereal clings to victory!
Dammit. I'm out of milk.
September 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric Kleefeld:General Election::Greg Sargent:Primaries
September 11, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
310!?
That's might optimistic of you. None of the recent polls have suggested it would be anything other than really close.
Which worries me, but I'm putting some faith in youth voters... which is always the demise of the Dems - but this year is different!
September 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
He said 2012. And it was a joke.
September 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
And it could easily be 310, even if the election is close. I.e., if it's close in both Ohio and Florida, but Obama eeks out victories in both states, we'll be talking about 310+.
September 11, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please do not forget to emphasize how OLD McCain is - do not be shy - say he is TOO OLD
Key words : forgetful, irritable, senile, easily frustrated, over-medicated, needs a nap, out of touch, crotchety, living in the past ...
September 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
confused
September 11, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
POW!
September 11, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
testy
September 11, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
cranky
doesn't get it
September 11, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whenever he gets on his pork barrel rant ("I'll veto the bill and make them famous, everyone will know their names!"), not only does he look like he should be waving a cane around - but he sounds like my 85 year old father going on about the conspiracy in the Post Office to delay the delivery of his hometown newspaper.
September 11, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Douche bag.
September 11, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
That sound you hear is wingnut heads exploding with rage at the fact that Bill Clinton has the nerve to say such a thing.
September 11, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would prefer Bill Clinton say something that is more likely to IGNITE potential voters.
To say, "Oh he will win handily" may mean to many people "Phew, I don't have to worry about voting then."
September 11, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point
September 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Listen: I'll take this statement any day of the week over the "You could say no one's really ready to be president".
Sure, it'd be nice if Bill fired up the Dems, and I think we'll hear some great zingers out of him once he goes out on the trail, but at least it was nice to hear a top Democrat (besides Obama) talking confidently about the election. Politico has a whole story today about how uneasy the Dems are. Why they (the Dems) continue to admit these fears publicly is just beyond me.
The idea of running a unified confident campaign is something that seems most top dems seem unable to grasp.
September 11, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
We lefties are a flighty bunch, and the amount of freak outs regarding the Republican convention bump are a testament to that. You have to reassure and soothe the base before you can light a fire under their ass.
September 11, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice to hear some confidence for a change.
I just hope he's not relying on "THE math."
September 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus, there are lots of honeys on the campaign trail . . .
September 11, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I predict that Sen. Obama will win and win handily."
Hopefully this question does not turn on what "win" means. "Win" has fewer meanings than "is" right?
September 11, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope he sees something we haven't been. We still put a lot of stock in his campaigns, the bad press of the recently completed primaries not withstanding. He's still the only thoroughly successful Democratic presidential campaigner of the past 30 years.
September 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
If there's one man the racist asshole Republican jerkoffs like Karl Rove fear, it's Bill Clinton.
September 11, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Clinton is going through the motions. BHO did nothing to cut Hillary's campaign debt and stupidly picked Senator Hair Plugs for VP. Bill knows Barry is going back to his subcommittee after McCain/Bimbo win.
Barry is a loser and Bill knows it!
September 11, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good job, MP.
This race is over -- it ended the moment Obama basically validated everything the "Barry is a kiss-ass weakling" crowd said about him by choosing the Tidy Bowl Man as Veep. Uncle O. is a loser.
But nowhere near as much of a loser as the wad of narcissists-with-no-lives-and-no-friends-who-pretend-to-be-politically-active-progressives-by filling-up-their-shitty-sexless-lives-by-posting all day-at-this-toilet-bowl-site.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeet! Talk about the last "people" in the world you'd want to be in a foxhole(or at a party) with!
September 11, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
".. "Barry is a kiss-ass weakling" crowd said about him by choosing the Tidy Bowl Man as Veep. Uncle O. is a loser."
How many inbred followers does Larry Johnson have? All of these weak ass, petulant, bitter-beer face trolls just prove to me that Obama is going to win this thing.
"But nowhere near as much of a loser as the wad of narcissists-with-no-lives-and-no-friends-who-pretend-to-be-politically-active-progressives-by filling-up-their-shitty-sexless-lives-by-posting all day-at-this-toilet-bowl-site."
How desperate does that make you, to sign up for a cite you loathe only to get ritualistically bitchslapped for your inept views? What variety of douchebag does that make you exactly?
September 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill is going to campaign only on Sept 29. But, the game will be over on Sept 26 - the first presidential debate. A game changing narrative is required before the debate not after the debate. Three days after Sept 26 - It is too late. Even Bill Clinton cannot do it.
September 11, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
And how is it that you know what Bill Clinton's schedule is?
SEcondly, it would seem that this:
kinda sorta contradicts your assertion that he's only campaigning on Sept. 29.
And finally, why are you so confident that McCain will win the debate?
September 11, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe TalkSense is the one who's going to be responsible for connecting McCain's earpiece to Lieberman and Graham's radios.
September 11, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Bill Clinton, for saying just exactly what I think, too.
I also hope Democrats quit running around being scared. Here's what loony old Ed Koch, who campaigned for Bush, said about why he's not endorsing or voting for McLame:
http://www.alternet.org/election08/98228/8_more_stories_about_palin_the_public_needs_to_know/?page=3
So please quit telling me that addressing Palin is a mistake.
September 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The whole concern troll thing that Karl Rove's got going on suggests that addressing Palin is something the Republicans are afraid of.
September 11, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bless you, CT.
September 11, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whew! I figured after yesterday, you weren't going to talk to me at all...
September 11, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
O you silly! Never!
I'm fighting a rear guard action here - the guy who came to look at my fruit trees today (they need feeding and all that ) started talking to me about the election and he said he's scared.
We have all been scared. I'm trying to get us to turn that around. I don't think we need to be scared - and I really mean that.
I think Lincoln Chaffee was speaking for the old so-called Silent Majority when he said that Sarah Palin is a "cocky wacko."
;)
September 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
If being on defense and off-message are not good things, then addressing Palin is a mistake.
McCain has the football. Tackle McCain.
September 11, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
O hell - how lame are you? I gave links and sources and reasons for why I think what I do - viz. Ed Koch's statement.
I also have referenced Lincoln Chaffee.
And this comment is the best you can do?
LOLOLOL!!!!!
September 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
You do realize that lol means "laughing out loud," don't you? Of course you don't because otherwise you wouldn't have been so stupid as to add extra olol's (what do they stand for, genius?).
I neither care what Chaffee nor Koch have to say -- I don't find either of them particularly astute (particularly if one is a republican and the other vote for them). Palin is, was, and always will be a distraction. Wasting time on the decoy will only allow the true target to survive that much longer.
September 11, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
You get demerits on your geek badge! Lololol is common parlance among those of us in the geek community. Over a million gamers can't be wrong.
Also, include these must haves for you vocab. -> ROFLMAO, O.O
GTFO!
September 11, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I was coming up, this is how geek was defined:
I'm not particularly interested in being a member of that club, so for me "LOLOLOL" is a sign of a) illiteracy; b) stupidity; c) ignorance; d) incompetence; e) all of the above. I've got no sense of humor when it comes to geekdom.
September 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
So go bite the head off a live chicken, then.
Yeesh...some people.
September 11, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think either thing is mutually exclusive. Attack Palin, but use it as a chance to pivot to attack McCain.
McCain is now running as a reformer who wants to change Washington...she is a key part of that strategy. Without her credentials on this issue, his strategy collapses. If it becomes clear to voters that she is hardly the saintly reformer that McCain has painted her to be, that can then be used to show that McCain is an impulsive, irrational decision-maker who doesn't have the judgement to do the job.
We can wish it away, but for better or worse, this campaign is now about Palin. McCain has become nothing but her sidekick. Isn't the winning strategy usually built around attacking an opponent's strength? Well, she's his strength right now.
September 11, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo.
September 11, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I'm glad Clinton's more gracious now than he has been in the past.
September 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Big bad Bill is sweet William now.
September 11, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice! I like that song...
September 11, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love the optimism but this race right now is tied/mccain up slightly.
and the only way to reverse the momentum is to have something happen that will get indies back on the obama side.
September 11, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you honestly imagine indies would vote for that ticket?
I do not think so. Indies are not extremists - they are mostly centrists.
The polls are not the end all and be all - they're largely bullshit. Because we've registered 11 million new Democratic voters and the GOP has lost well over 600,000 registered Repug voters.
The sampling percentages in those polls do not reflect this reality.
September 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Clintons know that Hillary can never be President if Barack wins so they must look like they support him while giving coded messages to HRC supporters to vote McCain. That is why Hillary wore an orange pantsuit to give her speech (and why McCain wore an orange tie for his) -- orange is the symbolic color of the PUMAs.
Look for further McCain gains in Friday's tracking polls after 9/11 events remind everyone of Barack's wimpiness.
September 11, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that tinfoil hat you're wearing is cutting off circulation to your brain.
"coded messages"?
Orange is the symbolic color of the PUMAs??
You need to up your meds.
September 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
For whatever little my opinion is worth, I think that CT Voter's response exactly mirrors my own take on Dr Zaius' very original take on things.
September 11, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Orange puma
September 11, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
eatbees, I LIKE that.
September 11, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
A number of the electoral vote polling cites have indicated that Obama's total *could* be as high as 310 or so. I'll be VERY happy with a 'mere' 270, of course. --- In tend to think that Bill C. really believes this wil lbe the outcome. It sounds like he's goign to be giving it some time and effort and doing some joint appearances with Obama. I know the theory about wanting Obama to lose and it may be true .. but Clinton is very present-focused and I'm not sure he'd want yet another experience of throwing his all behind someone and having them lose. We'll see how solidly he does contribute. I'm hopeful. The Clintons have to know that a Dem administration starting in Jan will be so much better for the country AND for their fortunes and, as I said, he is very present-focused. (Lack of planning ahead was the problem with the Clinton campaign, in fact.)
September 11, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I tend to think Bill really believes this, too.
And all the conspiracy theories are wack. He's a politician. Deals have been struck, feelings have been soothed. It's in his best interests to act in the party's best interest. That happens to be the same thing as Obama's best interest.
All this bullshit about what the Clintons are up to is I guess entertaining. But it's fantastical.
They still have campaign debt to pay off, too.
September 11, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill: "I predict that Sen. Obama will win and win handily."
Isn't that what he said about Hillary?
September 11, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't remember him ever saying that about Clinton. Do you have a link?
September 11, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://thepage.time.com/2007/11/08/bill-clinton-hillary-will-win-the-white-house-by-a-pretty-good-margin/
September 11, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
..that's why him saying about that Obama means more, he isn't married to him.
September 11, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
>>>Key words : forgetful, irritable, senile, easily frustrated, over-medicated, needs a nap, out of touch, crotchety, living in the past ...
Another one: "easily led"
He didn't get the VP he wanted; he's running the kind of campaign he's always abhored and hired the people he's abhored to run it; he's stopped giving press conferences or talking openly to the reporters travelling with him. WHO IS IN CHARGE???
September 11, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, E2, you are right : easily led ... easily led astray and manipulated ...
He would be a cinch to isolate and feed neocon nonsense - he would do whatever they steer him to do. Nightmare.
September 12, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bill: "I predict that Sen. Obama will win and win handily."
He no doubt had his testicles crossed when he said this.
September 11, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
why thank you kindly for the imagery.
September 11, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"He no doubt had his testicles crossed when he said this."
..even though I'm sure that you are an authority on testicles, I'm rather hesitant to believe troll jizz.
September 11, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol i can't even figure out what he's talking about. Does he mean.. crossing like as in corssing ones... fingers? If he means it like that why didn;t he just say he crossed his ..fingers? >.
It's probably just a teen thing xD
September 11, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill: "I predict that Sen. Obama will win and win handily."
He no doubt had his testicles crossed when he said this.
September 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
"He no doubt had his testicles crossed when he said this."
..even though I'm sure that you are an authority on testicles, I'm rather hesitant to believe troll jizz.
September 11, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill: "I predict that Sen. Obama will win and win handily."
He no doubt had his testicles crossed when he said this.
September 11, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will post - you just have to launch a fresh page while you watch the thing hang on the page behind it. Now open these comments and reload the page. By the third or so reload, the page with your comment on it will start to post. Kill the new page. Voila!
IT just takes time.
September 11, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is no better salesman than Bill Clinton.
Obama will be lucky to have him out there.
IMO, Bill Clinton is the only one who can counteract the Palin juggernaut.
September 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy Shit -
I think someone is going to have to shoot me - I totally co-sign on of fogu's comments.
o this can't be good. ;)
September 11, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw c'mon Tena. You have me all wrong.
September 11, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has the football. Tackle McCain.
September 11, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schmedley - that's just your lame goddamn opinion and it's wrong.
Everyone is working on everyone.
OK? Put a sock in it.
September 11, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who died and made you blog monitor? I'll say whatever I want and I don't need your permission. If I want your opinion, I'll ask for it (after I check with my shrink first, since obviously wanting your opinion is a very bad sign, mental healthwise).
BTW, what does, "everyone is working on everyone" mean? A more ambiguous piece of trite, meaningless drivel could not have dripped out of the mouth of George W. Bush.
September 11, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree.
Palin's support comes from the far right, born again Evangelicals. They are the one issue (right to life)extremist who Bill Clinton has no affect of anyway, except helping them galvanize their own efforts.
September 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
With all the 'handwringing" (or supposed handwringing...), its very cool for Bill to just make a simple definitive statement like that. I like to read it as a message to other Democrats to buck up...
September 11, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
I cannot escape the fact that Sarah Palin rattled all of us.
And then the polls - *veryheavyfuckingsigh*
and they cannot be a true reflection of the electorate because the samples are not a true reflection of the electorate.
Anyway, I'm unrattled and it profits us nothing to keep this fear and trembling thing alive.
And I believe Bill means what he said. And I believe it, too.
September 11, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's nice to see Bill optimistic. I'm less so. McCain moved ahead in the W% number at the 538 for the first time in quite a while:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com
The electoral has slipped to a 1.7 lead for Obama.
All of the numbers look bleak. :/
September 11, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
O fuck you, dude.
I'm sick of the concern.
I swear to fucking god I am not going through this again - the numbers are bullshit.
September 11, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seconded! McCain has yet to get ahead in any of the Kerry states. And 538.com is certainly run by a Repub as well.
September 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nate actually is a liberal Democrat.
As much as the "McCain isn't ahead in any of the Kerry states" meme is interesting, last I checked, Kerry isn't our current president for all the states he won.
I understand the comment on "just catching up" - I read everything Nate posts. The problem is we don't win with the current "catch up" points. We simply don't win a close election because we know the Republicans will do everything in their power to steal the election. We're already seeing that with various foundations of "voter fraud" activities the GOP are firing up.
If one wants to place faith in the debates, go right ahead. We saw Gore win a debate, Bush look awful, and the media spin it into Gore being bad. We just had KO replaced on one of the outlets, which means that Brokaw, Williams and Mitchell can wax about the honor and strength of McCain after those debates, and even if Obama comes across looking better, fall back to POW! points to limit the damage.
Bottom Line:
This should be a landslide. The most unpopular President in polling history. The GOP brand in such shambles that the GOP won't even *mention* their brand at their convention. Absolutely the worst nominee in recent memory who can't open his mouth without lying, who's platform runs against what the majority of the country wants on just about every key issue, and who has flip-flopped on every issue this side of Iraq. A horrendous VP pick pulled out of their ass at the last minute. The economy getting worse by the day.
And we're "tied"?
We point to Kerry states as some symbol of stength?
It's a pretty embarassing indicment of where we're at as a country and a party that this isn't a complete blowout right now. Bob Dole didn't face as uphill of a struggle as McCain, and he got his ass handed to him. Yet we're suppose just sit back calmly, everything will turn out okay, keep the faith... when we're tied?
Seriously... there needs to be some fucking passion in crushing the other side rather than pulling an Animal House style "Remain Calm" spot out.
September 11, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aren't we still in the dead cat bounce?
September 11, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Nate explained, the W% was just catching up to the recent polls that reflected the McCain bounce coming out of the convention.
There's still eight weeks and 4 debates to get through. Pace yourself....if you do all of your handwringing now, they'll be nothing left for later. :-)
September 11, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama doesn't win it'd be ridiculous. Lehman Bros. is near failure but no one's buying unless the feds backstop a deal, like they backstopped Bear Stearns a couple months back, like they NATIONALIZED the key provider of liquidity in the mortgage market over the week-end... Moral Hazard anyone?
It's now very likely that Uncle Sam owns the portion of your house that isn't your own equity. Chew on that for a second. But some still think Republican economic policy has been great, but most of us that haven't been brainwashed that the Plutocrat/theocrat coalition government is truly awful for most small businesses.
And now Paulson has got Uncle Sam to start up his own version of the SIV - Sovereign Investment Vehicle - and is selling treasuries to purchase of Mortgage Backed Securities in the taxpayers name and drive down mortgage rates. Are taxpayers getting compensated with market rates for the risks they are taking on? Do we realize this was done to reassure foreign holders of agency bonds (China, Middle East, etc.) so our financial system doesn't collapse under the expense of the Iraq war? Does this sound anything like the "smaller government" or the "free market" to anyone?
Even my National Review reading dc-power-broker boss of my org thinks the republicans and Bush admin are a joke and openly mocks them at our meetings. Here in the trenches of our countries financial crisis, we're aware that we are treading on the precipice. While the RNC chants "Drill baby drill", we're in the mens' room joking about how we're blindly heading into the next great depression.
Obama should be co-opting those refrains the republicans have used so effectively against us - thought they campaign on it but don't put it into practice. As he did in his convention speech, he should be talking about making government smaller, more transparent and more responsive while pointing the finger at Bush expansion of federal government and lack of responsiveness. (1 million names on the terrorist watch list, including congressman, with no recourse). He should talk about liberty, and our right to make individual choices and our sacred duty to think of our neighbors when making those choices. He will pick up Ron Paul voters and independents. He isn't toeing the dem party line on Fannie and Freddie, and has discussed something of a market based solution though slightly fuzzy on the critical details. This is good but I want to see more of the movement into pragmatism rather than a retreat into it's most ridiculous corners of partisanship. Stop fighting McCain's lies and put the big picture back in the frame.
Fmr. Rep. Oxley (R, btw) came out earlier this week and blamed the Bush and Treasury "ideologues" for the nationalization of Fannie and Freddie since they wouldn't pass perfectly reasonable legislation to regulate the GSEs because they didn't think they should exist. (I wonder how the mortgage crisis would've been without 80% of it going through Fannie Freddie) And they're now trying to blame the Dems for not passing reforms to Fannie Freddie regulation (when republicans were in charge of congress, btw). OFHEO's Lockhart, another Bush appointee, said everything was great just a couple months ago.
Seriously, financial armeggedan is going on in the background of this election as a result of Republican policies and they are getting a free pass. If we don't win this election in a landslide, there is something seriously wrong with this country. If we do lose, I'm moving to Asia and getting on board with the new world order.
End of Rant.
September 11, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
We may know Palin's policy positions, and why she's drawing the radical evangelicals, but the Average Joe Cable Watcher does not. I mention (as a woman) to people I talk to why I don't want to see Palin in a position where she can legislate on anything, including making abortion no longer an option even in cases of rape, and they look at me blankly. They don't know anything about what she believes, they just know that she seems like a good woman who is being bashed on the head. Have to get the REAL reason we're afraid of Palin out there, because she's in no way qualified for the position of VP, because she's regressive on women's issues and looney tunes reactive Repub right wing on national security, and she's done nothing but utter lies about her record from the minute she hit the public stage. Not because she's a woman and she's pretty, and she's a "celebrity," (the Repubs criticism of Obama, when they were jealous of him). What about (bumper sticker) "Republican Mac and His Moose Whopper - Want Lies with That?"
September 11, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
We may know Palin's policy positions, and why she's drawing the radical evangelicals, but the Average Joe Cable Watcher does not. I mention (as a woman) to people I talk to why I don't want to see Palin in a position where she can legislate on anything, including making abortion no longer an option even in cases of rape, and they look at me blankly. They don't know anything about what she believes, they just know that she seems like a good woman who is being bashed on the head. Have to get the REAL reason we're afraid of Palin out there, because she's in no way qualified for the position of VP, because she's regressive on women's issues and looney tunes reactive Repub right wing on national security, and she's done nothing but utter lies about her record from the minute she hit the public stage. Not because she's a woman and she's pretty, and she's a "celebrity," (the Repubs criticism of Obama, when they were jealous of him). What about (bumper sticker) "Republican Mac and His Moose Whopper - Want Lies with That?"
September 11, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
We may know Palin's policy positions, and why she's drawing the radical evangelicals, but the Average Joe Cable Watcher does not. I mention (as a woman) to people I talk to why I don't want to see Palin in a position where she can legislate on anything, including making abortion no longer an option even in cases of rape, and they look at me blankly. They don't know anything about what she believes, they just know that she seems like a good woman who is being bashed on the head. Have to get the REAL reason we're afraid of Palin out there, because she's in no way qualified for the position of VP, because she's regressive on women's issues and looney tunes reactive Repub right wing on national security, and she's done nothing but utter lies about her record from the minute she hit the public stage. Not because she's a woman and she's pretty, and she's a "celebrity," (the Repubs criticism of Obama, when they were jealous of him). What about (bumper sticker) "Republican Mac and His Moose Whopper - Want Lies with That?"
September 11, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, E2, you are right : easily led ... easily led astray and manipulated ...
He would be a cinch to isolate and feed neocon nonsense - he would do whatever they steer him to do. Nightmare.
September 12, 2008 12:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, E2, you are right : easily led ... easily led astray and manipulated ...
He would be a cinch to isolate and feed neocon nonsense - he would do whatever they steer him to do. Nightmare.
September 12, 2008 12:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope the Obama campaign cuts some ads with Clinton in them. I think that a lot of people who might be nervous about voting for Obama would be more persuaded if Clinton was speaking about him with passion.
September 12, 2008 12:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, E2, you are right : easily led ... easily led astray and manipulated ...
He would be a cinch to isolate and feed neocon nonsense - he would do whatever they steer him to do. Nightmare.
September 12, 2008 12:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did you take time out from peeking at your neighbors to type that? Get a brain implant, underwear sniffer.
Hey! How's about you post your entire sexual history here and we hire an Independent Counsel to take about half of the FBI to check you out and file a report for everyone to read? Does that work for you?
September 12, 2008 2:00 AM | Reply | Permalink