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Associated Press To The Rescue! Palin Was Thoroughly Vetted, After All!

Ron Fournier, send in the cavalry!

On a day when The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and McClatchy all weighed in with tough pieces on the weak vetting of Sarah Palin, the Associated Press rides to the rescue with a piece reporting that Palin was in fact thoroughly vetted after all.

The AP's source for this revelation? Why, the guy who was in charge of the vetting for McCain, lawyer Arthur B. Culvahouse Jr. You'll be surprised to hear that he says he did a very thorough job.

The AP piece also has this curious passage, in which the lawyer says Palin had disclosed Bristol's pregnancy to him...

Culvahouse then conducted a nearly three-hour interview. He said the first thing Palin volunteered was that her daughter was pregnant, and she also quickly disclosed her husband's two-decade-old DUI arrest.

Of course, yesterday, McCain advisers refused to say whether McCain had known of the pregnancy before picking Palin as Veep. So, if it's true that Palin disclosed it to McCain's chief vetter, one of the following must also be true:

1) McCain did know about the pregnancy before he picked Palin, but McCain aides for some reason declined to disclose this yesterday.

2) McCain's chief vetter did learn of the pregnancy before McCain picked Palin, but no one told McCain about it.

3) McCain's chief vetter isn't telling the truth.

Take your pick.


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The same AP that edited out McCain's infamous "excellent question" response to "How do we beat the bitch?"

Yep, Ron Fournier And Nedra Pickler and Co. stick up for their team.

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What a shocker. The story was written by Liz Sidoti, the infamous AP reporter who has a history of negative Obama stories, who also presented McCain with a box of donuts (with sprinkles of course)and coffee at an event for newspapers editors, the same event in which the head of the AP reporter referred to Obama as 'Osama'.

Link (Includes video of the donut moment):
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/ap-scribe-who-s.html

The AP really has lost any sense of objectivity during this campaign. They're just complete shills for the McCain camp.

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Not only that, but the AP is treating it as a corporate PR issue, circling the wagons around Ron Fournier and actively working to spin all of the legitimate issues raised about him, rather than actually dealing with any of the criticism.

If AP wants to be just another corporation, rather than a legitimate media outlet, that's its prerogative, but you would think someone there would realize that failing to answer legitimate questions about Fournier's impartiality will severely damage the value of the brand. It ignores its critics at its own peril. Is Fournier really worth it?

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Did she get a ride in the tire swing?

And the same AP who edited out the politically stupid "joke" McCain made about killing Iranians with cigarettes....

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Ron Fournier, Editor Wide Stance.

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Oh, this is way tooooo funny. Palin is the gift that keeps on giving. Maybe TPM, should have continuous updates on the facts coming out and the meltdown. Her first official act as mayor of a town of 8500, she required the town staff, all 5 of them, to resign in a loyalty test. Unbelievable. This is just way, way too funny. Now apparently reporters will be combing all over the metropolis of alaska to get the latest scoop on the looney toon. I am totally laughing my a** off, this is too funny.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palin-forced-staff-to-res_n_123137.html

Michael: I believe Laura McGann used to write for TPM. Also, she knows the history of this woman better than most, and is actually there investigating. Cannot wait to find out what other goodies she turns up!

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I can't wait either. Every day there is something new and hilarious. This woman really is a looney toon. I am thinking she might not make it til Friday.

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I think Laura McCann will run into big obstacles since McCain has sent up a team of lawyers to post-vet Palin. The lawyers are more likely to prevent information from coming out of Alaska than to seek and expose information. Palin's theme song is "Send me lawyers, guns and money" as someone else posted last night.

Palin is still governor of Alaska and therefore she is still in place to practice her abuse of power and vindictiveness.

Hmm . . . Rachel Paulose, Monica Goodling, and now Sarah Palin. Is anyone else detecting a theme here? Although I suppose it's understandable, what with the traditional role of women in the Republicans' view of the world.

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i pick #3!

Ditto

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Agreed. Or, how about #4, the vetter's a moron? It may sound mean, but come on, this was crazy!

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Your conjecture does resonate with Hanlon's razor.

OTOH, it's possible that he is stupid and/or lazy, acted that way, and now he's lying.

If you ask a stupid person if he's stupid and he says "no," is he lying?

AP, especially Fournier, has no credibility. The AP has even acknowledged this with their defending him in their internal memo. What a joke.

I honestly cannot believe we're still flogging this non-issue issue.

The latest polls suggest what the strategy should be: McCain/Palin alienate independents and women because they are RIGHT-WING on the issues and not at all moderate.

That's the message, along with Clinton's "America in trouble on two fronts".

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It really isn't a non-issue, concerning the vetting, because of all the garbage coming out. It reflects terribly on mcbush and it reveals that it was a shoot from the hip, erratic act. What better evidence to show mcbush should not be president, notwithstanding the other points that you raise?

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It's just no fun belonging to the team that can't shoot straight, isn't it?

Gee, what is under that hat, mush?

You think that McCain selecting a person to become the President who A) he personally did not know and B) he did not bother to vet is a non-issue? Think about it for a moment.

Everything else stems from that. Even your contention that the problem really is her extremist policies stems from the issue that McCain was reckless and irresponsible in his choice (we can probably assume that he was not intentionally trying to drive his poll numbers down).

Don't get you at all. There is a veritable treasure trover here, from her securing earmarks for Wasilla to the tune of $30mil, her Troopergate lawyering-up, her one time support for Sen. Stevens, the Bridge to Nowhere, and on and on.

Reformer? Nope. Maverick? Maybe. But not sure America is feeling to comfy with the Maverick right now.

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Ditto!

McCAIN/FAILIN' 2008BC


YUP! YUP!

From:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/unsurprised.html

Tuesday, September 02, 2008

Unsurprised

"No Surprises From Palin, McCain Team Says"-Washington Post


Senior McCain officials described themselves as "unsurprised" today as huge storms of locusts flew from Wasilla, Alaska and descended upon McCain campaign headquarters. "Locusts were vetted. Locusts were vetted in the vet" said one campaign official, who spoke without attribution out of concern that he would be devoured by a verminous flying cloud. The campaign also said that they were nonplussed by reports that the rivers were running black with ashes, that family pets were begin to speak in human voices, declaiming "Release Sarah!", and that a huge spreading stain was beginning to blot out the Northern sun. "Vetted" said the campaign.

"There are exciting new studies that show that locusts can be used as a source of biodegradable fuel" said Newt Gingrich, as he hunkered down to avoid the black marble obelisks falling from the sky around him. "Palin, if she can be said to have played a role in bringing about these new biofuel resources, should be praised for her innovative role in the solution to our future energy demands".

"These events firmly demonstrate Palin's deep connection to traditional modes of traditional expression, in traditional forms, traditionally." said William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. "Experience, in the face of these more traditional events, is overrated..." continued Kristol, before ending the interview to wrap himself head-to-toe in mosquito netting and swallowing a bitter tasting anti-malarial drug, the taste of which, as his lips contorted, he noted to be "surprisingly refreshing."

Palin's schedule in the upcoming days of the Republican National Convention has been cut short due to, as one McCain communications aide reported, a desire not to "let the magic out of the bottle too quickly." "Sarah is a precious resource, who each moment brings a new vitality and energy to every worker on the campaign" said the aide, while fighting to remove the nest of serpents which had suddenly materialized on the floor beneath him, and were now slowly ascending his legs. "Do these bite, or just slink?" asked the aide, who spoke on conditions of anonymity so as not to provoke or otherwise alienate the reptiles.

Meanwhile, as the heavens darkened, the seas began to boil, and a voice tore through the clouds shouting, in deep, stentorian tones to one and all: "It was a Mistake!", campaign offices described themselves as "unperturbed". "Serpents materializing, house pets suddenly called to vocal advocacy, Celestial callings to revise and repent...Vetted" said the spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity as he was turning into a pillar of salt. "Everything that was vetted was vetted in the vet."

Cite:

Head of State:

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/unsurprised.html

The AP is tragically transparent. They see the winds blowing, and know their business model is failing. So naturally, they opt to go the Fox News route, and become the official print news outlet of Wingnutopia.

It's pathetic.

I write to rfournier@ap.org every time he does this now. It is a joke.

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Amelie - tell you what - what the Dallas News started printing Michelle Malkin's crap, I wrote every single time and said the same thing: this woman is a racist who advocated concentration camps and I'm going to harass you every time you publish her.

They stopped. I don't know if it was me - but they quit publishing Malkin.

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Really? In the heart of texas no less. Malkin is an unbelievable wacko, who is a couter wannabe. I can't believe a texas paper would stop publishing her right-wing wacko drivil. Congratulations.

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Option 4: The aides hadn't had a chance to ask but were terrified of what the answer might be.

Option 5: The aides hadn't had a chance to even thik of the question, much less ask it.

So you're telling me that John McCain knew she was a secessionist?

I'm with Zell. This secessionist news is something that might bother a lot of people. And it's not exactly Country First.

And Culvahouse interviewing Palin for three hours isn't much of a vetting job. Digging for dirt without the candidate knowing is.

http://pufferfish.typepad.com/

I do hope they keep Palin, because it totally ruins their experience argument. She's a flake and a weirdo, not to mention freaky ultra rightwing fanatic.

If they dump her, they could get a more qualified person. But then again, McCain would be admitting a mistake and poor judgment.

Hell, either way, it's a trainwreck.

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Too late to get a more qualified person. Can you imagine anyone who was passed over the first time climbing on board the StraightTalk Bus to Hell?

Maybe McCain should just run without a VP. He is a maverick afterall.

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All 3 options are equally bad for McLame -

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

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Now now, we shouldn't take pleasure in McCain's misery. (except for some reason I do too....)

Shit, this is hard. Ummmm, I'm gonna have to go with #3.

Palin's career isn't about values and ethics. It's about power, ambition, drive, competitiveness. Everything she's achieved has been preceded by a positioning designed to divide and conquer. She became mayor by going highly partisan, with state GOP backing, in a town that had not been partisan. She got the governership by figuring out anti-corruption was the way to go. And yet she is as corrupt as they come. She lies about or covers up past activities (bridge to nowhere, earmarks, Ted Stevens 527, etc.) She made sure she gave that speech in TX at 7+ mos. pregnant, with amniotic fluid dripping, because she was not going to miss that. All about raising her profile. She apparently didn't tell her kids what was up with the VP slot until they flying out of state. Oh, Bristol, honey, we're going to have to go public with your pregnancy, but why don't we hide your bump with Trig in the meantime.

She's Machiavelli in lipgloss.

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O yeah.

She is so not a nice woman and she doesn't play fair and it does not further one thing to turn your back on her for a second.

Palin is getting torn down, and McCain along with her in the eyes of the public. And with that, I think Obama needs to stay on the track he is on. The campaign need to really push the idea that these people are far right, more so than Bush at this point in 2000. Not more of the same: far, far worse. Stay away from Palin, she will drive herself down.

Talking about Bristol's pregnancy may now be one of the third rails of politics, but I do have some questions:

If the Palins were so proud of their daughter's decision, why did it take internet rumors to disclose Bristol's pregnancy? Furthermore, why did the proud parents take pains to hide their daughter's pregnancy during the family's initial appearances? (Look at how Bristol uses a white blanket to cover her front during her Mom's VP introduction.)

Doesn't the Palin's call for privacy implicitly acknowledge some embarrassment about Bristol's situation?

Anyway...

I do think that McCain's vetting of Palin was not thorough. According to the NYT and other sources, the pick was not made until last Thursday, after it became clear that a Lieberman selection would have caused friction within the Rep base.

Finally, McCain's selection calls McCain's decision making process into question. Do we want a President who makes decisions shooting from the hip, or someone who carefully considers options?

I re-read Palin's statement, and she said Bristol planned on marrying the father. That is much different than they plan to get married, they are engaged, Levi is looking forward to raising this baby with Bristol, etc. All girls can plan who they will marry, but Robert Redford didn't heed my call, so there you go.

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I'm waiting for my invitation to the Amelie-Redford wedding!

Levi's Myspace page declares that he doesn't want children.

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Sounds like a typical teen guy. Too bad his girlfriend's Mom is running for VP on the Fundicrat ticket.

L.A. Times reports she wasn't even on the short list. They vetted her in a "rush," an insider says, by "little more than" a Google search according to the L.A. Times.

I was always for Traitor Joe, but there's something else wrong here. It *can't* be that the whole list consisted of that filthy, boorish lout alone, eh? There must be a reason for this "rush." Somebody else backed out or became unavailable as well, maybe more than one person.

In my crazy argument world, I would also contend that Palin was not a pick that reflects McCain's supposed maverick streak.

If McCain were truly the maverick that he sees himself as, he would have stuck to his guns and picked Lieberman. Instead, McCain was forced by the Republican base to select someone of whom they would approve. In other words, he was forced into making an anti-maverick (and controversial) choice.

Agreed.

He completely caved to the Christianist wing of his party. I hardly consider that "mavericky" regardless of how the MSM tries to paint it.

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It is pretty obvious that she didn't tell the vetter about the pregnancy. If she had the background information in the roll out would have been different. They would have headed this stuff off from the get go.

Ron Fountier may be printing what he was told to print, but the clown who told him what to write is a transparent liar.

I'm so happy McCain finally made this election about him. No. Really. It is now about him and his temperament and decision-making.

Kos

Not that Kos.

At first, I thought that we'd have Sarah Palin to thank for the meltdown and impending civil war within the Republican party, but now we find out that she's also going to become cause of the discrediting of Ron Fournier and the Associated Press.

Oh, thank you so much Miss Congeniality 1984 (contested). You've meant so much to us all.

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Oh, thank you so much Miss Congeniality 1984 (contested). You've meant so much to us all.

LOL!

Life looks good - no? Feels good, too, for a change.

At first, I thought that we'd have Sarah Palin to thank for the meltdown and impending civil war within the Republican party, but now we find out that she's also going to become cause of the discrediting of Ron Fournier and the Associated Press.

We call that a 'bank shot'.

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If you believe the story, then - bottom line - Palin vetted herself!

Yessiree... she told all in an interview!

And by god, this is a woman who cannot brook criticism! She now recalls telling him all. And he's falling right into line with that!

Yessiree... she can give orders folks! And if you don't protect her, she will have you fired!

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More possibilities:

4. McCain did know of a pregnancy, but not the one the reporters were asking about.

5. When McCain picked Sarah Palin, the pregnancy did not yet exist because Karl Rove hadn't come up with the idea.

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The minor point is how well she was vetted---not very. The major point is that McCain made a conscious calculation to capitulate to the right wing of his party.

Obama negotiated a very spectacular role for the Clintons at his convention, but remained steadfast in choosing the vp he thought was best.

McCain, foolishly, caved in.

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It appears that McCain bets before he vets. Of course, he's used to playing craps with Cindy's money, so when he actually has some of his own skin in the game, he shows what a reckless, feckless loser he really is.
John McCain is crapping out.

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I bet Cindy's money is placing bets in Intrade right this very moment! Trying to keep the Palin numbers as low as possible.

A Candidate with Depends On!

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Is anybody aware of any anti-Palin ads run by the Dems, or anybody else for that matter, running in any state?

The image of Palin in the minds of many Americans is fluid at the moment. Plenty of information has come out that completely undercuts her glossy image as a "reformer" and enemy of earmarks (the WaPo has a good article on that today), and as Lalo notes, illustrates what a fringe loon she is. NOW is the time for the Obama campaign to aggressively attack Palin (and McCain) on all aspects of her record. NOW is the time to define her, not next week.

If the Obama campaign dithers, it will give the McCainiacs time to regroup and develop the new round of crazy attack ads that they'll be leveling at Biden and Obama, who will then have to spend days or weeks refuting and defending, instead of driving the narrative on Palin and McCain themselves.

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If the Obama campaign dithers, it will give the McCainiacs time to regroup and develop the new round of crazy attack ads that they'll be leveling at Biden and Obama,

No dithering - I couldn't agree more - dithering is fatal!

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Methinks that they are saving their money for now. For once the 24 hour news cycle and the corporate media is playing in the dems favor. Palin is the gift that keeps on giving and the media is doing it for the dems. I never thought that there would be a day when I would be able to write this. Amazing.

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Exactly! This SpringerFest is all about McCain's lack of judgement. By the end of the week, I'm expecting to find out BigFoot is really the babydaddy!

"This VP candidate will self-destruct in 10 seconds. Good luck, Mr. Phelps."

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I'd be very careful NOT to attack Palin directly. Show her at the old man's sat & rattle off a laundry list of McCain's issues with judgment, but keep it policy oriented.

Now is a propitious time to reacquaint the American people with Charles Keating, another example of McCain's mavericky taste in people.

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Palin: This word will eventually take on new meaning. Will it mean a candidate who gets "paler and paler" = palin' (as in fadin' away)?

I think she's palin' myself!

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Fournier's swimming against the tide here, seeing as how the NYT, WaPo and LA Times have all come out with stories of what a clusterfuck this alleged 'vetting' was.

I'm hoping that in addition to destroying the Republican brand for a generation, this story also succeeds in branding Fournier, once and for all, as the hack he's always been.

PS: The lawyer is lying.

Dont forget folks, AP endorsed Johnny Boy. Further, BO needs to stay far away from this. Hope Joe keeps his mouth shut as well.

Does TPM subscribe to AP?

What makes me ask is stories like "Giuliani out, Thompson and Lieberman in for GOP", which is what you get when you click on "Lieberman, Thompson Set To Speak Tonight At RNC" under "TPM Convention Wire" (at time of writing).

Other, similar links point off-site, but this points to a page in TPM format, only with AP byline.

If TPM does subscribe to AP ... why?

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If TPM does subscribe to AP ... why?

It's OK.  Josh has them on "moderated" status.

It's OK. Josh has them on "moderated" status.

But still giving them money, yes? Do they add more value than there would be to boycotting them (at what's increasingly a top-flight media outlet)?

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I don't know what their subscription model is.

It could be that a publisher pays only what they reprint, and likely according to the size of the audience.

If that's true, then TPM is paying them for their good work and not for their crapola.

Dunno.

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Which begs the question.......

If THIS is what results from a thorough 'vetting', what skeletons do Romney, Ridge, and Lieberman have in THEIR closets??????????

I'll pitch the same question here that I asked Josh earlier this morning: which is actually worse? That the McCain camp didn't vet Sarah Palin as thoroughly as they should have and wound up in this mess, or that they did thoroughly vet her -- as they are currently claiming -- learned about all this stuff, and still decided she was good to go? This insistence that they did a bang-up job and knew everything before announcing her as the VP pick doesn't exactly paint a better portrait of their decision-making.

You forgot #4 - Fournier is lying in his column.

I'm thinking her (past) membership in the Alaska First Party disqualifies her role as CIC of the Alaska National Guard.

I mean, there's always the risk she could foment a civil war and command the troops to do her bidding.

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Hope Joe keeps his mouth shut as well.

Yeah, that's a winner - keep your mouth shut about your opponent's incredible incompetency in picking his Veep.

*sigh*

AP is now a tainted brand.

I'm thinking her (past) membership in the Alaska First Party disqualifies her role as CIC of the Alaska National Guard.

I mean, there's always the risk she could foment a civil war and command the troops to do her bidding.

"On his MySpace page, Johnston proudly declares: "I'm a f---in' redneck."


"I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing," he says on the site. He also warns that if anyone messes with him, "I'll kick ass."


The Web site, before it was removed, appeared not to have been accessed for a year. On it, he admits to having a girlfriend. On the part where it asks about children, he wrote, "I don't want kids."


I'm sorry, everyone. I'm voting McCain now. This shit is too hilarious to just throw away. I want to see Levi and his tuxedo t-shirt getting hitched in the rose garden.

Good one. The tux t-shirt is an instant visual. And I can see mother of the bride wearing one of those hot-body t-shirts at the hen party.

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LOLOLOLOL!!!

O my god.

What does one say? LOLOLOL!!!!!


I did have the same thought! What's life going to be like without Palin?! *When* will be TPM be *this* entertaining again?

See, McCain wanted a game-changer. But isn't he old enough to know that adage, "Be careful what you wish for?"

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If she was thoroughly vetted than the McCain camp would not have to send a string of lawyers and communications folks to Alaska to do any "post-vetting".

We all know that she wasn't vetted.

TPM needs to hire Sarah Palin, so she can fire the guy who hired the guy running the servers.

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LOL!

What an excellent solution to all our problems!

she gets shit done, like joe pesci!!!

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There is one other thing McCain was thinking about when he chose Palin. Check out this video put together by the JedReport:

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN5xbWtNSU"

His wandering eyes give it away.

Here's my worry: While this whole mess solidifies Barack's lead in states where he's already strong...

Meanwhile, Sarah Warts-And-All strengthens McCain in areas Barack is trying to flip: Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Virginia, Ohio, maybe Georgia (Bob Barr factor in the last). All because in those places, for a lot of people, "she's one of us."

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Kathleen - if you think that women and swing voters will vote for that ticket then there's nothing I can say, except - no they won't. Not if they aren't insane.

Women don't like this bitch and they aren't going to like her any better the more they know about her.

Thanks for talking me off the wall, Tena. I work myself up sometimes.

And you live down there, so you must have your finger on the pulse.

Ms. Hussein, I think it's a bit beyond warts, though, don't you? There'll be Talibangenicals and airheads ("Actually I kind of like her!") who go with it, but I see them as outnumbered.

Oh, yeah, it's not just warts, it's abcesses, gangrene, all kinds of gross things.

And you and Tena are making me feel better about the whole thing. Nails chewed off last night though, damn it, I'd look like crap next to Snowmobile Barbie (another good one!)

Did he include the Eagle Forum questionnaire as part of this 'thorough vetting' process?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_09/014510.php

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How's it looking at Intrade about how soon Palin will decide to drop out to "spend more time with her family"?

I suspect the Republicans are furiously "vetting" Joe Biden right now to find ANYTHING to make a scandal out of to take the heat off Palin. I see that as their only real alternative. I won't be surprised if, at any moment, we start hearing about Biden...and of course the Media will gobble it up.

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Well d'uh - but you have to know they already have been doing that. However, since Joe has been in public life since forever and I've never heard one rumor about him- well, I wish GOP lots of luck.

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Well, they've got The Great Plagiarism Scandal. But yeah, I think that rather supports your point than otherwise.

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And is it just me, or does *everyone* get "password failed" the first time they have to re-login on these pages? I *always* have to enter it a second time, then it goes through just fine.

"I suspect the Republicans are furiously "vetting" Joe Biden right now"
I sure hope they don't find out that he wants Delaware to secede from the United States of America.

re AP: any word on Charles Babington - the guy who thought Obama's acceptance speech fell short?

Sub-Prime loan borrowers went through more serious vetting than Sarah Palin, Ms. Vendetta '08.

To guard against a coup de GOP, McCain can only dump her now after he's officially nominated. When is that supposed to take place again? Today or tomorrow? If it's before her speech, then I think she's replaced tomorrow morning.

there is a part of me that wants this gop ticket to win. I mean I could Finally start doing stand up. Think of the shitload of material these ppl could bring.

a random thought here. I can really see mcCrap starring as pinhead in a new hellraiser flick. Or as the don ameche character in trading places, with barack playing billy valentine.

oh man, the possibilities of them in office. I feel like such a damn fool for wanted to vote for the betterment of my children and the rest of america.

it will be a tough choice in november, very tough

People are not attacking Palin's daughter, they are rightly pointing out the hypocrisy of a Republican establishment that has advanced the politics of character assassination and undermined the Freedom of Religion in pursuit of power. The internet should be replete with apologies from Republicans for supporting right-wing media and party wackos who bludgeon and litmus test fellow Americans with some Biblical passages when politically expedient, while not doing so with other passages like those on fidelity, fornication, shell fish, swine, and indentured servitude. Christian Fundamentalists in the Republican Party and Media that want to impose their particular religious interpretations on others can't have it both ways:

Either, a pregnancy is a personal matter SEPARATE from government (as most open minded freedom loving Americans argue), or it isn't.

Christian Fundamentalists want to impose non-medical/religious-only beliefs on people outside of their church in a nation where your pledge of allegiance means you swear not to do that. By advocating the enforcement of her spirituality into law, Palin invited us to do something we shouldn't have to: to examine the consequences of the imposition of Palin's religious beliefs on those of us who don't share them. Hypocrites deserve worse than being put in front of a mirror that reflects the "family values"/"I'm more Christian than you" that were used to distract the nation from a rational and substantiated discussion on issues that are most deserving of our attention.

Christ was the first to advocate a separation of church and state when he declared "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Matthew 22:21, see also John 18:36). Don't you dare use him to hide your lack of integrity, self-reflection, and moral courage. Not even someone who Christian Fundamentalists believe is fit to run the country and pick Supreme Court justices; who embodies their "Christian Values"; is able to keep her adolescent daughter abstinent. If you don't want people to look at how well the politics that puts "abstinence-only education" ahead of adolescent welfare worked out for your daughter, do us all a favor, mind your own business and remember your oath to uphold the Constitution means real American patriots would sooner die than allow their or anyone else's religious-only beliefs to be forced onto others.

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The guy who vetted her spent 99% of the time at The Pink Pussycat Go-Go Bar and Grill in Anchorage, and the rest of the time talking to her family.

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PalinDrome, the Sarah Palin parody blog
http://sarahpalin.typepad.com/

wickedly hilarious

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The AP deserves to be dismantled brick by brick, it is no longer a news organization but a hotbed of partisan hackery. Did I hear that Rupert Murdoch is now on the AP board?

Regarding vetting, has there been any info regarding the fact that Palin did not win Miss Congeniality at the Miss Wasilla 1984 beauty pageant? Here is the site which reported it:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnists.nsf/debpeterson/story/23D7A0CF8A2E3A61862574B50011DB30?OpenDocument

The article quotes the woman who cdlaims that she, and not Palin was Miss Congeniality.

This could easily be settled by looking at the official pageant results, but I cannot find them online.

Blatant resume padding is unacceptable under any circumstances.

A. B. Culvahouse, chair of McCain's VP search committee, is the managing partner at O'Melveny and Myers. O'Melveny's largest client is Exxon, and is currently engaged in a number of lawsuits against the state of Alaska involving north slope drilling and building a natural gas pipeline. Palin implemented regulations seeking to push Exxon to drill and build the pipeline, Exxon has been fighting her tooth and nail. Not sure if this connection means anything, but it sure is interesting.

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Ha ha - I wonder if the "vetting" was a big FU to Palin over the lawsuit?
And why didn't anyone at the McCain campaign this this was a conflict of interest?

In short, McCain delegated his vetting of Palin to Exxon.
Figures.
I imagine most of the questions involved energy policy.
No time in three hours to get into abuse of power or Alaska secession.

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She wasn't thoroughly vetted at all.

Hmm.

Rachel Paulose, Monica Goodling, Sarah Palin . . . anyone else starting to detect a theme here?

Although I suppose it is understandable, given their traditional status in their male counterparts' world.

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The AP deserves to be dismantled brick by brick, it is no longer a news organization but a hotbed of partisan hackery. Did I hear that Rupert Murdoch is now on the AP board?

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There is an interesting tidbit about Culvahouse on his wikipedia page. But it remains tantalyzing because the link to an old AP story is dead:
2.^ McCain choice to help with Veep is discreet lawyer who sometimes takes shortcuts to get the job done, Associated Press. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hSbbqX-wqc7CFRq_y0cs2kRow_HwD91GDC680

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Fournier, as Washington bureau chief, is just the tip of the iceberg.
Just below the water line are Liz Sidoti (who wrote this puff piece), Nedra Pickler and Charles Babbington.
As a journalist, I used to have enormous respect for AP. Meat-and-potatoes, just-the-facts-mam reporting.
Now clearly something has gone wrong at the very highest levels of the organization, and the rot has spread.
Sidoti, for example, doesn't ask Culvahouse the obvious question: "That Alaska independence thing -- that didn't raise any red flags with you?"
Pathetic.

Fournier, as Washington bureau chief, is just the tip of the iceberg.
Just below the water line are Liz Sidoti (who wrote this puff piece), Nedra Pickler and Charles Babbington.
As a journalist, I used to have enormous respect for AP. Meat-and-potatoes, just-the-facts-mam reporting.
Now clearly something has gone wrong at the very highest levels of the organization, and the rot has spread.
Sidoti, for example, doesn't ask Culvahouse the obvious question: "That Alaska independence thing -- that didn't raise any red flags with you?"
Pathetic.
(Apologies in advance if the first version of this I posted eventually shows up; that was some time ago.)

I mean seriously, if people PERCIEVE you as being biased wouldn't you try to dispell that rumor by not being such a hack.

The question not asked:

When did Gov Palin learn of her daughter's pregnancy?

I'm speculating that Gov. Palin fully disclosed everything she knew at the time she was offered VP. She just didn't know, Bristol fessed up after the announcement. Remember, Bristol and the rest of the kids didnt' know why they were in Ohio; they thought it was a family celebration. She told her mom when she could and when it was too late.

Bristol is one of five kids of busy parents and if I'm not mistaken she lives and goes to school in Anchorage, and not in Wasilla with her folks.

Did anyone think she was pregnant when she stood on the dais with her family? She shielded her herself by holding Trig, but really how many people were watching and didn't notice.

This explains why this wasn't disclosed and

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