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The Hillary Campaign Memos: Fury Over Leaks, A Belated Push On Florida

In addition to the garden variety Mark Penn sliminess we posted on below, there's plenty of other good stuff in Josh Green's Atlantic article, which collects a bunch of internal Hillary campaign memos and demonstrates in graphic new detail just how embattled and chaotic the campaign really was.

The memos have just been posted, and they offer the following revelations:

*Hillary anger prompted "kindergarten" attack on Obama. Green reports that Hillary got angry on a conference call in December of 2007, wondering why the campaign wasn't on the attack. That sparked a flurry of emails among Hillary advisers, with chief spokesperson Howard Wolfson writing: "I would like to put out a release documenting all the instances that we know Obama has been contemplating a potus run."

Later the campaign would make an issue out of Obama's kindergarten essay on running for President one day, only to say the whole thing was a joke after the attack was ridiculed.

* Several Hillary advisers advocated a big push in March to address the Florida and Michigan delegation standoffs, but the campaign didn't do anything in earnest until May. A March 10, 2008, memo from two Hillary advisers insists that "our campaign should step into the vacuum" and says that the goal is to run up the "popular vote totals" in the two states. Nothing happened for at least two months, and by then, it was too late to build real momentum for revotes.

* Top Hillary strategist lashed out at campaign leaking. When Geoff Garin took over as Hillary's chief strategist in April 2008, he penned a memo saying he was appalled at all the leaking going on. Garin wrote: "I don't mean to be an asshole, but..."

* Uber-Washington-insider Robert Barnett also lost it over leaking. D.C. lawyer and top Hillary supporter Barnett boiled over after seeing a Washington Post article filled with leaks. "This circular firing squad that is occurring is unattractive, unprofessional, unconscionable, and unprofessional," Barnett wrote. "It must stop."

More memos here.


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The Hillary Campaign Memos: Fury Over Leaks

The campaign died but not the leaks. It's clear they were not only sick bastards but snitching rats. Glue your backs against the wall if you're in a room with Hillary "surrogates."

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Hey! Get away from him! I saw him first!!!

May I join the Kash79 fan club? He is rather adorable. :-)

This IS me in the avatar! See it and weep, Kash79. See it and weep!!

Indeed, Kash is a cutie and smart, too! A delight to have on the board here.

But, have you met JoshuaBlog? http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/profile/thejoshuablog

He's had more than one poster here smitten, as well. :)

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Whomever the frick that is, he induces bouts of gazing while I try my darndest to focus on politics. Visualizing McCain snaps me out of it for a painful price.

He made a good choice. It's a great pic.

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As long as the young homo contingent is going off on Kash's cuteness, I might as well add my name to the roll too.

Hmmm... I had no idea there were so many of us young homos on TPM. Quite the contingent, and all smitten with Kash, evidently. :-)

Count me in--but as a voice of diversity. I'm a 25 year old woman, and I think Kash is pretty cute too!

A very hillarious thank you...LOL

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where did the memos come from?

A frightening insight into what might have happened if this dysfunctional team had won the nomination. Yikes.

This would make a hell of a movie...

...a HBO show at least.

While all campaigns have such memo's there is something dirty and unnerving about seeing campaigns discuss voters as points on a score card. Talking frankly about how to make one pitch to women and then a different one to blue collar voters - I don't know how anybody could read those and not believe they were somehow used.

the Florigan memo's are telling in that they admit that they wanted to get them seated not for any grand principle, but because Hillary needed the votes. Of course they said they'd try and make the case to seat Florida and Michigan about founding principles, because they acknowledged that they couldn't argue about changing the rules in the middle of the game. It was always about getting them to re-vote because it would help Hillary, and while everybody not a dead-ender realized as much, it right there for all to see now. All the talk of disenfranchisement and comparing the situations to Zimbabwe was a campaign stunt, pure showmanship.

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Can we perhaps learn something from this?

(I know that learning from experience is not the Murkan way, in this post 9/11 würld.)

No Democratic politician should ever higher Mark Penn again, for anything.

And for that matter, can we please ship the DLC off to the rethuglican party, where they belong?
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Higher, hire, hi! 'er!
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(That was central to my point. /Jonah Goldberg)

Wolfson is a turd....as I said he should have remained a logcabin ReTHUGlican...it is who she really is inside.

I can't wait for the TV/Movie version of this never ending Clinton saga...lol.

I still have a picture I drew in crayon of Ronald Reagan while I was in kindergarten. The likeness was quite good actually.

Holy crap, what does that say about me???

Hillary anger? I'd hate to be in that room.

Hillary has a long history with Mark Penn. She knew why she wanted him to run her campaign.

She knew what type of tactics he would pursue. He did not suddenly develop a new style, just for this campaign. Hillary knew what she was getting for the millions she paid Mark Penn.

What I don't get is the insistence that the press has (and this includes TPM) to pick over the bones of the Clinton campaign. I've never EVER seen this much attention and energy devoted to figuring out "what went wrong" with a run for office.

I get that the Clinton's have been a veritable soap opera for the Beltway Media for well over a decade now, but if there's this much interest in them, why not save some of it for the book?

The article in the Atlantic in fact seems to suggest that had she followed Penn's advice fully from the start and without the distraction of inner squabbles, she would have won.

Haha, you losers still don't get it.

As McCain is learning, attacks are not going to be effective unless you offer an inspirational alternative.

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Those who Lalo35adm the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.
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How cynical. Typical clintonian.

I wouldn't necessarily say that she would have won. I couldn't say for sure which of the contradictory strategies her advisors gave her was the best one, but her campaign CLEARLY suffered from a "too many cooks" problem. MAYBE Penn's "attack attack attack" strategy would have succeeded. Maybe Patti Solis-Doyle's "humanization" could have worked if fully committed to. And maybe Ickes was just incompetent and screwed everyone up.

The point is, with all these egos, leaking, and out-of-control bickering, the blame rebounds right back on Hillary herself. Why? Because she's never been an executive. She has difficulty choosing the right team and getting them to work together.

Obama's never been an executive either, but he displays a great deal of talent in that area that Hillary Clinton seems to lack. Obama has executive strengths - carefully listening to his staff, inspiring them to work together, keeping close tabs on his organization, and keeping everything organized and moving forward.

I thought I was over it, but it's back:

Clinton Fatigue!!!

Can we just please stop talking about anything Clinton, say, for the rest of time? Why, oh why, do the mindless zombies in the national press corp obsess so much over this couple? The rest of us in the real world have more pressing issues than two egomaniac drama queens. The MSM is enabling their psychosis if you ask me.

Why so much chatter about Clinton, instead of say, Vicki Iseman, John McCain's lobbyist-sex friend.

After reading this, is there any wonder why Obama, an unknown four years ago, kicked the vaunted ones' asses?

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Ok, totally off topic, but this is very, very interesting. The theme for the day that the vp speaks will be veterans, benefits, and helping the troops.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/a-vp-hint-vps-convention_n_118148.html

Interesting. Webb has been awfully quiet and notwithstanding his statement, it sure sounds like a day tailor made for him. Maybe, just maybe it is webb and obama and webb worked it out. That would be huge. I gotta good feeling about this. Obama/Webb 08, all the way baby.

How about Inouye?

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He ain't picking an 84 year old running mate.

Why are you smearing Clinton with ancient dirt?

Something scaring you?


And who provided the memos?
Patti Solis Doyle looking pretty slimy.

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More delusion from the Clinton worshipers. Doyle probably has the least to gain by leaking these.

These memos don't really make Clinton look bad, beyond her judgment in hiring these losers to begin with. It's instructive to see how this train wreck happened. Perhaps it will teach future Dems who not to hire if nothing else.

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Lalo says the memos make Penn look good. Perhaps you should start with the obvious possibility. Solis-Doyle and her candidate Obama get nothing out of this.

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If you're interested in the article that inspired Robert Barnett's 6 March memo about the "circular firing squad", it appears to be, "Even in Victory, Clinton Team Is Battling Itself"

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Even if you believe such drivel, is not the candidate responsible for both the choice of squabbling personnel, and for the ultimate decisions on what advice to take?

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Sorry, the above should have been a reply to Lalo.

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What strikes me about the memos is the notion that the Clinton campaign was driven by steely eyed professionals is a myth. As the kindergarten attack proves the campaign was a very human enterprise subject to overreaction and a desire to fulfill the foolish wishes of the candidate.

I wonder if the McCain campaign is really controlled by 10 foot media giants who market test everything from the color of the backdrop behind the candidate to his every campaign statement.

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Screw Obama . . . Now I'm on the Hillary must be 44 band wagon. For really-reals . . . STOP LAUGHING!

I am guessing that She who must be coronated just got vetted for the VP slot . . . Now if someone could just do Evan Bayh.

Side note: I imagine that internal memos for the Senator Wackadoo McInsane must be similar and just as creepy.

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I'm sorry, but the egotistical squabbling of the Clinton campaign oozed out on all sides during the entire primary season. From a purely campaign perspective, the difference between the two camps couldn't be clearer. Hillary's people communicated an air of entitlement with an occasional whiff of knee-breaking. I'm not the least bit surprised that the sanctum sanctorum was toxic.

I'd be even less inclined to see any candidate I support hire Harold Ickes - the guy who seemed to have "lost" the $25 million post-Super-Tuesday fund.

It does seem that following either/any faction's recommendations would have better served Clinton; each had their own myopia, but decisive action is evidently what was truly lacking. The candidate (and her husband) were probably the most politically insightful (and smartest) people involved in the campaign--how on earth could they let this chaos go on for so many months? We could imagine what such a presidential administration would look like (or we could look at the existing one for a similar model of an executive ping-ponging between powerful internal conflicts).

(Really, though, apart from the slimy attack business and an early inability to see how important it was to grab the "change" mantle, Penn's ideas were specific, shrewd, and could well have been successfully exploited. You could do much worse than to hire him.)

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