Source: McCain, GOP Significantly Expanding Advertising Map Into New States
John McCain and the Republican National Committee are significantly expanding the map of their ad spending, and have now reserved ad time in North Carolina and statewide in Virginia, as well as in new markets in many other states, according to a Democratic operative familiar with national ad buying.
The expansion is significant, because it suggests that the McCain team is less confident in its chances in Virginia and North Carolina than it once was. Obama is advertising statewide in both places. More broadly, the expanded buy suggests that the McCain team is being forced by Obama's wider advertising map to play on a broader playing field than it had hoped to.
Here, according to the Dem operative, is a list of the new states (with markets in parentheses) that McCain and/or the RNC have reserved air time in for the week beginning on September 1:
North Carolina (Raleigh, Greensboro)Minnesota (Minneapolis, Duluth)
Virginia: (Norfolk, Richmond, Roanoke, Tri Cities, Harrisonburg, Charlottesville)
With the exception of national ads, neither McCain nor the GOP had been up in those states until now. McCain had previously been advertising in a small corner of Virginia, to reach the D.C. market; he's now moving to expand into all those new Virginia markets above, suggesting that the Republicans see gains by Obama in the state.
That's not all. McCain and/or the RNC are reserving ad time in new markets in states they were already up in, according to the Dem operative. Here they are:
Iowa (Omaha, Ottumwa, Quincy)New Hampshire (Portland, Burlington)
New Mexico (El Paso, Amarillo)
Nevada (Salt Lake)
It's unclear precisely where in the above new markets the McCain team is advertising and where the RNC is booking time; all the above markets, however, have now been booked by one of the two. The McCain campaign didn't return a request for comment.
The expansion -- which of course could be subject to change -- could be partly due to a desire to dump primary funds before McCain is the nominee. But it also clearly suggests a shift on the GOP's part to deal with the Obama campaign's aggressive advertising in 18 states.

Getting them to spend $$ defending red turf is EXCELLENT...
August 29, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
NEWS...
August 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
FOR...
August 29, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCAAAIIINNN!!!
August 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This looks like coordination of messaging....
August 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The fact that Obama has put states like Colorado into play is really going to hurt the wallet of the McCain campaign, as well as the GOP.
http://thepajamapundit.com/
August 29, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. But I have one beef with the piece. Isn't El Paso and Amarillo in Texas and not New Mexico?
There may be coverage overlap, but to my knowledge most of NM's TV comes out of Albuquerque.
August 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Most of the El Paso tv market is in New Mexico. The nearest population to El Paso are Mexicans or New Mexicans; nothing but sand for miles on the Texas side.
For all practical purposes, El Paso is a New Mexico city. It is on NM time zone, not Texas.
August 29, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
In addition, the El Paso media market covers a lot of southern NM: Las Cruces, Alamagordo, etc.
August 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is all well and good, but why advertise in El Paso and Amarillo and not Albuquerque? Albuquerque would cover an awful lot more of NM, and not some foreign state like Tx.
August 30, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, and this has been the strategy from the beginning.
McBush has a money limit starting now.
Obama is going to bury him, now that the only complaint against Obama (inexperience) has been neutralized by McBush himself.
He'll get all those Hillary supporters, though. All the ones who were participants of Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos."
Obama won't even miss those votes. LOL
August 29, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
actually ... if they move the convention back because of gustav, doesn't that extend the time to use their primary money? isn't the end of the convention the cut-off? or am i wrong about that?
August 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
When he accepts the nomination, the money is electronically transferred to him. So the minute the convention is over, he's got all the money he's going to get for the entire election.
August 29, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I almost wondered if that was why they were "considering postponing the convention due to Gustav"......... more time to use private funds. Seriously, do they ever do anything for any other reason?
August 29, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
If he placed an ad in every state he owns a house in, it would probably work out the same way.
August 29, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
On an unrelated note, what does "Dem operative" mean? Can I be one?
August 29, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does this have anything to do with the possibility of a postponed convention? That gives them more time to dump the money.
August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking this very thing. Push back McCain's acceptance and they push back the amount of time they can spend the primary money.
August 29, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, delaying the convention has a few benefits.
1. Gustav. 'Nuff said.
2. More time to spin the Palin nod.
3. More time to spend the primary money.
August 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
More time to coach. Did I just hear that she said that she "hasn't given Iraq much thought?" Really? Please tell me she said that.
August 29, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG
August 29, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't the best one NOT having Bush and Chaney speak?
The downside, of course, is that the reason they will not be speaking will be the fact that NO just might get hit again by a hurricane - which means that MSM has no choice but to talk all about how good a job this administration did repairing those levees!!!
Maybe Chaney can talk about us not getting "hit" again since 9/11 (shut up about anthrax you commies)!
Drill now! Drill now! Yeah, maybe that will work.
August 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, please spend all your money in MN, IA, NM, NH, and other states you will lose.
MN is certainly a lost cause, so says this MN resident.
August 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, and spending their money in Charlottesville is dopey. There are two McCain supporters in C-ville. I know them both. There will be no more. (Bush lost hugely there, as well as in the surrounding Albemarle County.)
August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have you tried converting those two ?
August 30, 2008 1:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agree, so says this former (and proud) MN resident :)
August 29, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
The expanded media markets in NH are a bit of a joke. Portland (MAINE) affects the northern part of the state, where not only where McPTSD's odds pretty good to begin with, but doesn't have very much of the people
And I wasn't aware that Burlington media markets aired at all in NH... Seeing as its hard to get farther from NH in VT than Burlington (and I doubt the networks there even air in NH)... He would have been better off hitting the Boston markets to hit more of NH voters (Fox 25, NBC 7, and CBS 5). These all have the benefit of airing all across New England too, not that he has a hope in any of the other states...
August 31, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, having a TiVo sometimes has its down-side.
Let me ask: Did the Dems run any ads during their own convention? I didn't see any, but I didn't watch any ads at all. Hope somebody can fill me in.
Just wondering about the Rs running ads during their own convention. It seems to me that the convention would be ad enough.
August 29, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
They may be trying to use their remaining primary cash to fill up open time slots that the Dems could buy. We certainly owe McCain a few ads during their convention.
August 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went to an Obama watch at a sports bar in KC last night. They had a pre-season football game on one screen and the convention on the other. Obama was all over the football game.
August 29, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the info. That makes it sound not so weird that they're advertising simultaneously with their own convention.
And NCSteve's conjecture about primary-funds dumping sounds very plausible, too.
August 29, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's more on Palin if anyone is interested:
Palin paid a state official $10,000 severance pay when he resigned after only 11 days works. It's appears to be a secondary part of the the Trooper-gate scandal, but it could make for good ammo.
After she fired the Public Safety Commissioner because he would not fire her brother-in-law, she replaced him with Chuck Kopp even though she was aware of a previous sexual harassment incident at a previous job. Once the story of the previous incident came out, Kopp resigned after 11 days in the position. He was given $10,000 severance by Palin. The Commissioner who Palin had earlier fired received no severance. After the Kopp's resignation, Palin appointed a panel to find a new Commissioner, something she had not done when she hired Kopp.
Anchorage Daily News has a good run down of the scandal as well as video of a Palin press conference about it and other stuff:
http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/492964.html
I also came across this:
"Open and transparent government was something that came up during the campaign and was largely in reference to the stranded gas act versus the AGIA concept under Governor Palin."
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/palin_circles_the_wagons_transparency_a_casualty
August 29, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The pressure has begun. Their is nothing complicated about this, just remember the primaries. Obama's campaign has not and did organize for both elections.
August 29, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Republican having to spend ad money in red states is outstanding.
I heard parts of Palin's speech on NPR. I didn't find it enjoyable. Did it come across more positively on TV?
August 29, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I watched it on TV and it wasn't bad. She really does strike me as likeable (though not presidential) visually (and I'm not talking about her "hotness" here), but I really wonder how that's going to hold up as she promotes the McCain message. I really don't see her and McCain as compatible in many ways.
August 29, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the info.
I just gotta say that the visual of her and McCain together is just jarring to me. She looks too young, and he looks too old.
Her accent reminded me of Frances McDormand in "Fargo".
August 29, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's a former TV newscaster -- the way to play the expectations game vs. Biden (and hit the celebrity angle as well) is to emphasize that she's trained to be telegenic.
August 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just watched it on C-SPAN. It is what it is.
VERY creepy was McCain's behavior to her. He clearly hasn't worked through all the sexism issues. Whereas Obama couldn't have been warmer with Biden when he first introduced him (big, strong hug), he then went to sit down and let Biden have the stage.
McCain, on the other hand, creepily hovered ("towered" would be an overstatement) over her the whole time she was speaking, forcing her to do the whole speech largely in reference to him, not able to concentrate on her putative audience. He also gave her multiple kisses, as he presumably would not have done to Romney or Pawlenty -- or, goodness knows, Lieberman. What does this sort of thing do to the dignity of the Vice-Presidential office?
She was very good on her humble, working-class union connections, and of course spoke volumes about her place in the manufactured elitism obsession when she reeled off the names of Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.
And with all this absurd talk of Obama's rallies being too much like Nuremburg: what I find sort of reminiscent of facism is the repeated chants of USA! USA! USA! at this GOP event. I find it somewhat chilling, frankly, coming from a party that is so hot on invading weaker countries.
August 29, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the detail.
I rarely quote Andy Sullivan, but this comment sort of summarizes my immediate gut reaction to the pictures of McCain and Palin:
"guardian" or "foster parent". Ouch.
Those kids names are a hoot. Seriously.
Trig?
T
August 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't see the kisses, but it's common practice for white men with an overinflated sense of sexual entitlement to ignore the relationships white women have with husbands or boyfriends of color.
August 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any color.
August 29, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi CT -- yes, clearly almost all of the states in play this year are either red or purple. Here's a nerdy exercise, FWIW, in quantifying that using Nate's supremely useful electoral history charts:
State: Year, Party won & % margin of victory
IA: '00, D0 ..... '04, R1
NH: '00, R1 ..... '04, D1
NM: '00, D0 ..... '04, R1
These are all purple as they come, no surprise both campaigns are there.
NV: '00, R3 ..... '04, R4
VA: '00, R8 ..... '04, R8
NC: '00, R13 .... '04, R10
Red turning purple, major GOP headaches! (although NC is a real long shot for Dems)
MN: '00, D2 ..... '04, D6
Purply-blue, imo a tease for the GOP, hope they spend lots of cash here. Obama's campaign isn't too worried about MN.
August 29, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw a bit of it without sound (was at a restaurant) - she had a "what the heck am I doing here?" expression on her face when she came up to the podium. It was almost as bad as McCain's creepy grin.
August 29, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about this for a headline -
Source: McCain, GOP shitting pants at thought of landslide loss
August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that what I smell?
August 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I told you. A landslide is now possible. I'll explain later on.
August 29, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am donating to Obama today after last night's speech. Anyone want to join me?
August 29, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto.
August 29, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in.
August 29, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Already did, though I confess I went back to a message a got a few days ago and copped an Obama-Biden t-shirt in the process.
August 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Already threw in $50 this morning.
August 29, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
$120 last night.
August 29, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
donated last ngiht after watching the speech a second time
August 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
$150 this morning. Halfway to maxing out.
August 29, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love my TPM friends !!!
August 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the invite. Already did it this morning!
August 29, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK. Time to send another $50 to Obama.
I suggest sending a new $5 donation on any day ending in the letter 'Y'. We can keep this up a while, Johnny. Hope you don't have to start dipping into private funds from Cindy's stash.
August 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg - It's called: Panic.
August 29, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the donation - I sent him two-fiddy the other night in response to his email with the links to complain about the Swiftboaters ads to the sponsors. I complained, too, of course.
Or I would join you. :)
August 29, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still can't believe the Obama campaign fucked up with that rookie move. How do you fall into the trap and question her experience?
They should've gave smiles and handshakes, then stepped over her and went right back to McCain. Make her irrelevant, write her off as a sideshow act for now and get back to gramps.
August 29, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
please quit whining.
People have been whining all day long and for the love of heaven - there is nothing to whine about.
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezuz
August 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I considered it a slip that they said McCain was "putting her within a heartbeat of the Presidency." That's assuming he wins! They should have said he was "proposing to put her ..."
I can't believe I'm criticizing those guys, but this once that first release had the earmarks of haste and lack of consideration. I appreciate their being fast on the draw generally, but their second statement seemed an admission that the first had been precipitous.
August 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Jesus, I am so having a "you kids get off my lawn" moment.
August 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. Totally.
August 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree. The original statement offer a valid argument. The Obama-Biden second statement is a formal congratulation to Palin. It's a good cop, bad cop situation. Surrogates make attacks while the candidates stay above the fray.
Why he decided to push back? I still don't know. Maybe it came out too fast without consulting Obama. This things happens (but they need to be very careful) I don't think it will hurt him much. But the question that the original statement asks is exactly the same question that many americans are asking: is this woman ready to take the presidency if the case appears. I don't think so and many people agree with me.
PD: The site of the RNC is very small. It's a hockey arena. That'll make the GOP party suffer comparing to the DNC. I do want that big ass TV screen, though. Visually, the RNC will backfire.
August 29, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. The criticism was a good thing to float out there, it was an initial response that was on the minds of a good many members of the electorate and it was good strategy to give voice to it, by someone other than Obama/Biden. Then, Obama/Biden come out and do the gracious and gentlemanly thing.
Well-played.
August 30, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree, because the Palin pick gives the Democrats a valid reason to bring up a fairly important issue that they've previously only been able to hint at:
the significant chance that McCain will die before his term (or terms) as president is (or are) finished.
They're not questioning Palin's fitness to be VP, they're questioning Palin's fitness to be President in case McCain dies. But since it's not addressed as an attack on McCain, McCain can't complain that they're being ageist.
August 29, 2008 11:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it is safe to say that the election is now over. The only thing left to be decided is by how big a margin will Obama win.
By picking Palin as his running mate is there anyone left who doesn't think McCain is an idiot? I mean, the message McCain is making with his VP pick is that a woman's looks are more important than experience and ability. Is this really going to go over well with the angry 50+ women who make up the PUMAs?
Plus there are a hell of a lot of misogynistic men in the Republican Party. Do you really think they are pleased with the pick?
Anyone who still thinks the sky is falling really needs to get themselves some therapy. The Republican Party is imploded in front of our eyes and it is quite entertaining to watch.
August 29, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll say it again:
We have won this election.
38 million people watched his speech on television last night.
McLame turned around today and picked my lovely and adorable evangelical sister in law to be the next in line for the red button.
We have won this election - we have. Believe it.
August 29, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
"My lovely and adorable evangelical sister-in-law"... You can't, and probably never will, know how appropriate that is to me. But you do know how right you are about the election.
August 30, 2008 12:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome. If this turns into a nuclear arms race then McCain's gonna go bankrupt Soviet Russia style.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
August 29, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
With the Palin pick McCain gave up fighting for the middle, and instead moved to invigorate the Evangelicals (who are head over heels with this pick) and hopefully pull enough identity voters from the Left.
McCain has five days left to spend his primary money, though there is talk he could move back his convention if Gustav hits on Monday.
August 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The evangelicals were split long before this campaign even began. A significant percentage of evangelicals are also - quel surprise! - environmentalists.
Even if every single (non -African American) religious right and evangelical Xian in this country turned out and voted for McLame it would not be enough.
August 29, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know everyone is talking about McCain moving back the convention, but it's not going to happen. The logistics are too immense, and they would have already had to start now. I just don't see it happening.
August 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds right. There are thousands of hotel and flight bookings, rentals, staff, the hockey arena itself (I laugh to think of the visual comparison with Obama and the Dems last night).
August 29, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gustav's not hitting until Tuesday at the earliest. They're not pushing anything back.
Can't say what the choice of Palin means at the moment. The Obama camp doesn't seem to either, that's why they fucked up with their initial reaction.
August 29, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
From Drudge:
August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
They won't delay their convention. It's too late.
They know it won't match the DNC, period. They're stuck with what they have: Bush, Cheney, Lieberman, Romney, Giuliani, Pawlenty, Palin and McCain.
They will fighting for people's attention with a public holiday (Labor Day), a massive hurricane (Gustav) and a sport event (NFL opener). And now, after making a huge political fuck-up, they have lost any hope for independent voters and sticking to the hardcore base. They're lost.
This election is half won. Now it's time to finish the job in the next 67 days.
August 29, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's great news that they're finally being forced to do this. The bad news is that it means they have finally woken up to the danger they're in in these states. I liked it better when they were in complete denial.
August 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe, maybe not. Surely to a North Carolinian like you this is bad news. On the other hand, in order to put ads up in North Carolina, they have to spend money that they could otherwise have invested elsewhere (Pennsylvania, for instance, or Ohio, or Missouri). As a Missourian, I look at this as a case of making your job harder, but my job a little bit easier.
August 29, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are still in plenty of denial to enjoy - I mean, come on.
And since they started panicking in earnest, it's gotten way entertaining. I'm loving the runner up to Ms Alaska being the Repug Veep choice.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know if you'all have seen this but it really seems this was the least vetted, least thought out pick in VP history. Both Roll Call and the WaPo have stories that state clearly Palin has only met Mccain once (maybe twice). Huh?
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/08/29/mccain_barely_knows_running_mate.html
August 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The entire thing is one huge HUH?
August 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The entire thing is one huge HUH?
August 29, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
what I really do not understand is the NRO types (Ramesh is the only one saying WTF) saying she is excellent. Did they watch the same event we did? I really just don't get it.
August 29, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
what I really do not understand is the NRO types (Ramesh is the only one saying WTF) saying she is excellent. Did they watch the same event we did? I really just don't get it.
August 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cause they are lying Repugs?
You expect NRO to be honest about this? Come on -
August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
what I really do not understand is the NRO types (Ramesh is the only one saying WTF) saying she is excellent. Did they watch the same event we did? I really just don't get it.
August 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree with a lot of things on this blog, and very often, and this is one of those days.
Let's start with the context. This is a Democratic year and it's Obama's election. McCain has nothing to lose but everything to gain by taking risks.
I also think that from the campaigning and media management pov, this is a smart risk, not idiocy.
It is smart because:
- The base loves her
- She is an additional maverick on the Republican ticket, versus the "Washington Insider" on the Democratic
- Any criticism of Palin will rush back memories of sexism in the Democratic primaries. I view this as "insurance" first, Hillary voters second
It's funny how we all assumed that "experience" is solved by Biden's VP pick. The problem is that McCain's real weapon against Obama has always been Biden.
McCain's selection of his VP is his attempt to show that his actions just in the VP pick are already truer "change we can believe in" than the choice of Washington dinosaur Biden.
I think this pick will allow McCain to actually amplify his two central themes of judgement/experience and present them in a mavericky way and contrast to Obama/Biden.
Let's see how she works out. She doesn't look presidential, but she's very likeable with a human and immediate personal story.
August 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it highlights his judgement all right!
August 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree with a lot of things on this blog, and very often, and this is one of those days.
Let's start with the context. This is a Democratic year and it's Obama's election. McCain has nothing to lose but everything to gain by taking risks.
I also think that from the campaigning and media management pov, this is a smart risk, not idiocy.
It is smart because:
- The base loves her
- She is an additional maverick on the Republican ticket, versus the "Washington Insider" on the Democratic
- Any criticism of Palin will rush back memories of sexism in the Democratic primaries. I view this as "insurance" first, Hillary voters second
It's funny how we all assumed that "experience" is solved by Biden's VP pick. The problem is that McCain's real weapon against Obama has always been Biden.
McCain's selection of his VP is his attempt to show that his actions just in the VP pick are already truer "change we can believe in" than the choice of Washington dinosaur Biden.
I think this pick will allow McCain to actually amplify his two central themes of judgement/experience and present them in a mavericky way and contrast to Obama/Biden.
Let's see how she works out. She doesn't look presidential, but she's very likeable with a human and immediate personal story.
August 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me tell you about my friend; she's a single mother of a daughter with Asberger's Syndrome. She's the most fabulous I've ever met - it's all about her daughter, who is just such a cool kid.
human and immediate enough for you?
Lalo - This isn't Queen for a Day. This is about being able to run this country.
August 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena: I thought my point was clearly about how campaign is presented and run in the media. From that perspective alone, strategy and tactics. Calm down please.
August 29, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I think she's a smart pick on his part. Or would have been if it weren't for Trooper-Gate. Like you say, let's see how this plays out.
August 29, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me, ahem, clarify that... smart in that he wiggled out of a box containing nothing but poorer choices.
LieberSchmuck and Romney were death. Pawlenty has the same no-foreign-cred problem as Palin. He's got more gubernatorial experience but doesn't bring the disaffected Hillaristas with him like she does.
Except for the skeletons in her closet. Stay tuned.
August 29, 2008 11:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree with a lot of things on this blog, and very often, and this is one of those days.
Let's start with the context. This is a Democratic year and it's Obama's election. McCain has nothing to lose but everything to gain by taking risks.
I also think that from the campaigning and media management pov, this is a smart risk, not idiocy.
It is smart because:
- The base loves her
- She is an additional maverick on the Republican ticket, versus the "Washington Insider" on the Democratic
- Any criticism of Palin will rush back memories of sexism in the Democratic primaries. I view this as "insurance" first, Hillary voters second
It's funny how we all assumed that "experience" is solved by Biden's VP pick. The problem is that McCain's real weapon against Obama has always been Biden.
McCain's selection of his VP is his attempt to show that his actions just in the VP pick are already truer "change we can believe in" than the choice of Washington dinosaur Biden.
I think this pick will allow McCain to actually amplify his two central themes of judgement/experience and present them in a mavericky way and contrast to Obama/Biden.
Let's see how she works out. She doesn't look presidential, but she's very likeable with a human and immediate personal story.
August 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain-Palin'08: A POW and a Huh?
August 29, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's kind of the point, isn't it?
McCan/Huh '08
Huh/Biden '08
The politics of contrasts.
August 29, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope McCain continues to dump ad buys in Duluth, Minnesota. The chances of turning Duluth & St Louis County blue would be equivalent to a fart surviving a hurricane.
August 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope McCain continues to dump ad buys in Duluth, Minnesota. The chances of turning Duluth & St Louis County blue would be equivalent to a fart surviving a hurricane.
August 29, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate broken blogs!
August 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://animaltourism.blogspot.com/2008/08/palin-picked-outnumbered-hunters-over.html
August 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok. McCain is already spending mass amounts of money in all the above mentioned states, so what's new about this story?
August 29, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe this. Matthews is now saying that Palin is the first woman ever to be nominated for Veep...
He has invited on his show the PUMAs who are pretending that Mcwar has won the election and that millions of women will vote for McWar
August 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe this. Matthews is now saying that Palin is the first woman ever to be nominated for Veep...
He has invited on his show the PUMAs who are pretending that Mcwar has won the election and that millions of women will vote for McWar
August 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe this. Matthews is now saying that Palin is the first woman ever to be nominated for Veep...
He has invited on his show the PUMAs who are pretending that Mcwar has won the election and that millions of women will vote for McWar
August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe this. Matthews is now saying that Palin is the first woman ever to be nominated for Veep...
He has invited on his show the PUMAs who are pretending that Mcwar has won the election and that millions of women will vote for McWar
August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe this. Matthews is now saying that Palin is the first woman ever to be nominated for Veep...
He has invited on his show the PUMAs who are pretending that Mcwar has won the election and that millions of women will vote for McWar
August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those PUMA's are GOP props. Matthew knows this, what a jerk.
August 29, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmmm. Someone was doctoring, er, I mean editing Palin's Wikipedia page recently, and scrubbing off the bad stuff.
NPR has it:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94118849
Strangely, the person had very detailed knowledge about her personal life. Could Sarah Quaylin have edited her own wikipedia page?
August 29, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things are looking much better now. I don't think the Obama camp should comment on McCain's VP decision until the shock has fully set in. Just let it play. McCain though, total wacco.
August 29, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The statement situation today was about timing, not content. They wanted to congratulate her first before going on her experience and readiness. They shoot too early, but no one noticed because everyone else is stunned for this bizarre choice.
August 29, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The statement situation today was about timing, not content. They wanted to congratulate her first before going on her experience and readiness. They shoot too early, but no one noticed because everyone else is stunned for this bizarre choice.
August 29, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
When the Republicans try to compare Palin's experience to Obama's, we should just reply that Obama has twenty million people who decided that he had the qualities needed to be president, by voting for him in the primaries. Sarah Palin has John Mccain.
August 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
A friend of mine told me that NPR just reported that the chief editor at Wikipedia just came out with the news that the Sara Palin wikipedia article was radically rewritten to make her seem more positive last night. Can anyone confirm this?
August 29, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone should be able to confirm this. Edits are recorded right there.
August 29, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, more than 500 changes just today. This isn't exactly astounding--everyone can edit it and it's big news right now. Maybe if someone went through the history carefully something interesting could come out of it.
August 29, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's how it looked August 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Palin&oldid=229158527
Here's it now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
August 29, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
All the controversies have been taken out, but anyone can put them back in.
August 29, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's 2:
Matanuska Maid Dairy controversy
Matanuska Maid Dairy was a state-owned business. When the State Dairy Board recommended closing the unprofitable business, Palin fired the board and appointed long-time Mat-Su Borough associates to run the board, including influential real estate businesswoman Kristan Cole.[27] The new board quickly approved raising the price of milk offered by the dairy, in a vain attempt to control fiscal losses, despite the fact that milk from Washington was already offered in Alaska stores for less than Matanuska Maid milk.[28] In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts, but no bids were received.[29][30]
Commissioner firing
On July 11, 2008, Palin fired Commissioner of Public Safety, Walt Monegan.[35] According to Monegan, he was fired over his reluctance to fire an Alaska State Trooper involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann. Palin claimed that she fired Monegan so the Department could head in a "new direction" and noted that her ex-brother-in-law is still employed by the state.[36] Alaska House Speaker, John Harris disputed that claim, stating there is "no different direction we are going in."[36] The legislature is hiring an investigator to determine if Palin and her staff violated the state personnel act.[37]
August 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, there's a lot of back and forth. The site's flagged with:
This page is about an active politician who is running for office, is in office and campaigning for re-election, or is involved in some current political conflict or controversy. Because of this, this article is at increased risk of biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism.
August 29, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, I'll shut up now. Not everything actually is changed (shouldn't use the word "All"), but it has had a lot of changes the past couple days.
August 29, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent work here. The only reason she isn't Ted Stevens-level corrupt is because she's only 44 years old.
August 29, 2008 11:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like all Wikipedia entries, the one on Sarah Palin has a history tab that contains the document's revision history. You can view previous revisions and display differences between revisions.
For example, this revision is from yesterday, 2008-08-28 09:50 GMT.
That's the last revision before somebody named Young Trigg started a series of about 15 edits. Hmmm. Since that time there have been about 1200 edits!
It does look like dedicated Wiki editors (like Coemgenus and Ferrylodge) have been policing the page. Also, some level of protection has been added.
I think it's time for me to make another donation to Wikipedia.
August 29, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
When the Republicans try to compare Palin's experience to Obama's, we should just reply that Obama has twenty million people who decided that he had the qualities needed to be president, by voting for him in the primaries. Sarah Palin has John Mccain.
August 29, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me tell you about my friend; she's a single mother of a daughter with Asberger's Syndrome. She's the most fabulous I've ever met - it's all about her daughter, who is just such a cool kid.
human and immediate enough for you?
Lalo - This isn't Queen for a Day. This is about being able to run this country.
August 29, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me tell you about my friend; she's a single mother of a daughter with Asberger's Syndrome. She's the most fabulous I've ever met - it's all about her daughter, who is just such a cool kid.
human and immediate enough for you?
Lalo - This isn't Queen for a Day. This is about being able to run this country.
August 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's making a play for Ohio, Pa. white female voters. Are they enough to swing those states? Seems to me he splits the difference with independents and males he might have gotten. No net gain, then?
August 29, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oy - this blog is beyond broken-
later
August 29, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Listen to her talk. She drops the g on words ending in ing. Oilin', fishin', huntin',explain'
August 29, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
She gets all kinds of props cause - hey, she actually fishes!
I started using a trout rod when I was 3.
How come I don't get these plush offers?
August 29, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's my thinking. There were a lot of independents who became more comfortable with Obama but maybe not quite on board who are for now on Obama's side.
August 29, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
This was a response to LBJ's brain.
And I have to say that, among all the stuff swirling around on her selection, I'm in the camp of those who are floored he would pick someone he has met at most twice. Bizarre.
August 29, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is beyond bizarre.
August 29, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
A co-worker and I spent an hour today (with deadlines looming) just on this topic: the absolute bizareness of this pick. Mindboggling. Keep adding words. I mean it would be that if any presidential candidate had picked her, but both Obama and McCain have framed this general election as, for a lack of better phrase, "the moment of truth" for this country. Now its a SNL skit. The happiest people are the writers on the Daily Show.
August 29, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know and like you - pile the words on - or go completely speechless.
It's totally bizarre. I have a theory now - someone told him to do this - he called his religious right wing nutjob preacher-friend in a cold sweat looking for advice and this was it.
Or Pat Robertson - or else McLame is the butt of a very complicated practical joke.
?????????????
August 29, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either your source or your write-up is wrong. Salt Lake is not in NV and none of NV is reached by SLC media. If they are advertising in SLC, its to defend Utah (which I doubt). The NV media markets are Las Vegas, Reno and one station in Elko.
August 29, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cafferty is on fire. "This pick is a joke."
August 29, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
God bless Jack Cafferty. The voice of reason in CNN.
He just destroy the conservative dude over and over again. The more I think of this, the more happier I am feeling: McCain has throw this election to the toilet, period.
And there's a picture now of Palin holding a assault rifle in Iraq. That's her foreign experience? It's just like the Dukakis tank moment. And now, with all the information that is coming out about her "experience", this is actually getting better.
Obama-Biden'08: Putting Barney Smith before Smith Barney!
August 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never believed this day would come...
Halperin agrees with me on something:
"On the face of it, McCain has failed the ultimate test that any presidential candidate must face in picking a running mate: selecting someone who is unambiguously qualified to be president...
...But Palin is now going to have to perform at a very high level to persuade the media and the public that she is truly ready to be a heartbeat away — and a 72-year-old's heart at that — from the presidency. How she handles questions about federal issues, national security and foreign affairs will be closely scrutinized, and her margin of error is next to zero...
...In addition, Palin has already had at least one ethical flap as governor, and her personal, political and financial background will be intensely picked over by the Democrats and the national media...
...But if McCain is wrong about how big a plus Palin will be, he might have just undone the gains of the last last month, in which his campaign succeeded somewhat in defining Obama on Republican terms and closed the gap with the Democratic nominee in key state polls. He has taken a chance on Sarah Palin to shake up the race — but at a time when many Republicans do not see why the race needs to be shaken up."
The full article here: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837514,00.html
It hurts me to say this but: Halperin is right.
PD: Van Halen is pissed because McCain used his song "Right Now" without his approval. The song choices for McCain are really running out. And if there's something that is a bigger mismatch tahn the GOP ticket is ABBA in a republican rally.
August 29, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
As long as he attacks it as a joke because of her (lack of) experience, as opposed to her being a woman and makes that crystal clear.
Now he could make it out to be a blatant pander considering there is no way a male governor with less that two years on the job (a state with 700,000 people), who is twyo years from being mayor (of a town of >7K) would be considered ready to be President in a heartbeat.
August 29, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Attack her politics - she's a far right fundamentalist. That's all you need to cement to win this election. Palin is an unknown, so it's a battle to frame her right now - look at how her wiki was scrubbed last night.
Her lack of experience is a real question, but right now she's "The Female VP candidate" and such attacks might get some backs up. For the time being focus on her politics to scare off moderates/centrists and let Hillary backers know that Palin has nothing in common with Sen. Clinton except their gender.
Obama's defense to the inexperience tag has always been judgment trumps experience, you have to attack her judgment, not the years in public office.
August 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. The media is already turning on her, in regards to be ready on day one. Her experience, the experience needed, it doesn't add up - the anchorage daily news.
August 29, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This election is no longer about Barack Obama, its now about Sarah Palin.
This is the biggest gift John McCain could have given the Democrats. Palin will be the subject for media for days known questioning her inexperience and potential problem that she presents to progressive women.
August 29, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This election is no longer about Barack Obama it is now going to be about McCain's VP pick Sarah Palin.
This is the greatest gift John McCain could have given the Democrats. Focus will be greatly on his VP candidate's youth and extreme inexperience, and the potential problem she presents to progressive women on her stances.
She's pro-life, anti-affirmative action, she doesn't believe in equal pay in the workplace for women, she's pro gun. None of these memes compliment's Hillary's core supporters.
August 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's anti-affirmative action?? She IS affirmative action.
August 29, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is a really good chance she scrubbed her own wiki last night. It was edited by one source with the handle "youngtrig", with Trig of course being her baby son's name.
Wiki can trace IP's, and it's considered bad form to edit your own wiki, so this could be interesting.
August 29, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Haha, that would be hilarious.
August 29, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Young Trig. Heh.
There's more info and some Wiki-history-tools links in my comment above.
August 29, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Young Trig. Heh.
There's more info and some links to YT and Wiki history tools in my comment above.
August 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. Young Trig. Heh.
There's more info and some links to YT and Wiki history tools in my comment above.
August 29, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell is up with TPM today???
August 29, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word. Something is not right today.
Palin effect?
August 29, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Server meltdown.
August 29, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some observations on the McCain buy.
The NM buy is to the Republican base vote in rural NM. I think their polls must show that they are loosing the hard core Republican vote and have to shore it up to have any chance. The tossup area is Albuqerque where they are buying no time. Obama (and Bill Richardson) really have changed that playing field. The area where they are buying to the area traditionally used to offset Santa Fe witt the real battle in Albuqerque. This is a panic buy.
The VA buy also shows panic. Harrisonberg, Charlottsville, and Roanoke (lower Shenandoah Valley) are in the areas where Republicans have to run up big margins to help offset N. VA. Obama has been been running ads there for weeks and has offices all over the place to cut that margin. If Obama gets 40% in the Valley he probably carries VA; if he gets 45%, then landsliade is on the way. The other VA buys are more predictable for a contested VA statewide race. The Norfolk buy (which will also reach into NC) is also somewhat defensive and is an indicator that the "military" vote is not solid for him--I have thought that was the case for some time. [Consider that somewhere between 30% to 40% of the military enlisted folks are either African-American or Hispanic; also consider how he dumped his first wife--a military wife who kept a family together during his years as a POW and despite her own serious injuries in an auto accident--I have suspected for sometime that military (active and retired) wives would have real problems with McCain.]
The NC buy is also interesting. Obama is on track to run up massive majorities in the Triangle [Raleigh buy] (primarily Durham, Orange and Wake counties but some adjacent counties as well) as well as the Greensboro area. This buy seems to me focused on trying to reduce those majorities. The Raleigh buy also gets into the rural parts of E. NC where Obama has been working to reduce McCain margins and where he will carry some areas.
The MN buy also appears to be defensive and somewhat a panic buy. With the RNC starting Monday, free media should be all you need. Why spend the money? It also gets most of the MN population.
The NV (Salt Lake) buy is a panic buy. That buy targets rural NV where Republicans have to run up massive margins (along with Washoe County--i.e., Reno) to offset Clark County (Las Vegas). This is a definite sign of panic and big trouble with the core Republican vote.
The Iowa buy also appears targeted at the base Republican vote rather than the swing voters. Again, a sign of panic and big problems with the core Republican Iowa voters who are necessary to offset the Democratic Iowa voters. The Republican organization in Iowa verges on the nonexistant (and McCain ahs never had a personal organization there and Senator Grassley holds him in minimal high reagard) while the Democratic organization may be the best in the US.
The NH buy is a state buy and not necessarily a sign of panic. It is worth noting that there is no Boston buy (which is very expensive) which is how you get to the E. NH voters who are also the newer voters (and helped turn NH blue).
My observations for whatever they may be worth.
August 29, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this buy is only partly for the base.
It will be used for two purposes:
- tell people Palin's story
- re-energize McCain campaign as a duo of mavericks, "reformers" running for the "common good".
Personally, I think if she doesn't make mistakes, they are going to be a tough ticket.
It would be nice to wake up tomorrow to a 20% lead from now to November, but I think we always under-estimate the Republicans.
August 29, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm. The choice of markets makes more plausible the suggestion that this a dumping of primary-campaign funds. Something about McCindy not being able to spend that money after he's the nominee.
Maybe they're also hoping to affect down-ticket races?
August 29, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
From my friend in AZ:
Do you think McCain meant to choose Kay Bailey Hutchinson and misdialed?
August 29, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
From WaPo:
Though it was high in shock value, the Palin pick left bruised feelings among the short-list contenders who were not picked -- and infuriated some Republican officials who privately said McCain had gone out on a limb, unnecessarily, without laying the groundwork for such an unknown. Two senior Republican officials close to Mitt Romney and Tim
Pawlenty said they had both been rudely strung along and now "feel manipulated."
"They now know that they were used as decoys, well after McCain had decided not to pick them," one Republican involved in the process said.
August 29, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much has been written on-line about how Clinton(s) would do anything to get elected. Now McCain has shown himself as a real contender, if not the winner, for the title of I'll do anything, use anyone, to get to the White House.
August 29, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much has been written on-line about how Clinton(s) would do anything to get elected. Now McCain has shown himself as a real contender, if not the winner, for the title of I'll do anything, use anyone, to get to the White House.
August 29, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is definitely a false parallel between the inexperience of Palin and that of Obama. Those who say the question of experience has been taken off the table should bite their tongues. Experience has to do with the past; one may be able to argue that Obama has a past with some national engagement but no executive experience, whereas Palin has some executive experience (she spoke of 13 years of elected office experience!!! -- being a councilman and PTA member?!?). One might say neither of them have a ton of experience. However, what Obama has is a vision of the future, one that includes all the national issues/problems, and that is certainly as important, even more important, than experience, which only serves as a predictor of what one would do.
So, saying of both Obama and Palin 'he/she doesn't have experience' is like saying of an Olympic gymnast and some after-school gymnast 'that routine wasn't very good.'
As for the maverick question: McCain seems to want to recover his status as maverick. Palin may be some sort of maverick with regard to Alaska politics, but it's not so much a testament to MaCain's being a maverick that he chose an Alaskan maverick, but -- because you can't escape the question of qualification -- his choice of Palin is a testament of his rash, high-stakes gambling temperament.
August 29, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin's 13 years of experience should be mocked. PTA, city council and mayor of a town of >7000 account for over 11 of those 13 years. They she is Governor for 18 months, and has two brewing scandals already - troopergate and the Dairy boondoggle. She also killed the "Bridge to Nowhere" but kept the money to spend on other areas.
August 29, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I were McCain, I would be plotting to have "experience" conversation going in as many places as possible.
Then, as always, make fun of street organizer vs elected official comparisons.
Talk about bridge to nowhere, that Obama voted for.
Then conclude with - it's all about judgement.
I think we have the two final narratives of the cmapaign ladies and gentlemen
August 29, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, yeah. And then they can also compare "law degree vs. bs in journalism"
August 29, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this thing on?
I'm predicting she drops out before the election. She's got some rather large legal problems pending.
Has McLame gone completely insane?
August 29, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
David Gergen on CNN, amid the harping of Bay Buchanan with her new pretending to be hip glasses, had to use his very quiet adult voice to seriously question the wisdom of Sarah Palin as veep.
May McLaughlin, Will, Brooks, and others follow suit. Other than a purty couch cozy, what does she bring? Votes? Foreign policy xp? Enlightened women's rights policies? All the people she will win are already voting for her.
Gustav is about to wring out this absurdity of incompetence, not so much hers as McShame's, as this is just a terrible choice.
Pax,
M.
August 29, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey that's our hockey rink you're dissing!
The Pepsi Center was a hockey arena as well, and the X was a wonderful place to watch Obama claim victory this past June.
I'm just waiting to see the RNC's party suffer by comparison.
August 29, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds a lot more entertaining than watching one of Jacques Lemaire's clog-up-the-middle hockey games.
August 29, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
guys--go read Sullivan. He is vetting her post by post. His work should be forwarded to everyone. And also read Scobolic at TNR. The serious thinking people are freaking out about the danger of having this woman in office.
August 29, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
And well they should be and thank you for that.
I said upthread - I think someone must have told McLame to do this - he called some religious right figure for advice - or someone did.
Or else someone is playing a very complicated practical joke on McLame.
August 29, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've been following him all day. His analysis is spot on.
"So one tenth of her campaign financing in 2002 was from oil company bosses, she's being investigated by her own legislature for a scandal where she appointed a sexual harasser, she vetoed wind and clean coal energy projects, and wanted to impose Christianist censorship on public libraries. I mean: did anyone even vet her?"
August 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a big fan of Sullivan. He's on the spot
August 29, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is curious because at the beginning Sulli seemed excited that she was somewhat more pro gay than other religious right wingers. But then as the day went on and he kept uncovering stuff it just got worse and worse. I am certainly pretty scared of having this woman in anywhere near the white house.
Also--if you guys have not read the politico story about how she got picked. Boy that will certainly make one's head explode.
I really think they did not vet this woman.
August 29, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do think she and McCain have a future as characters in a new season of Northern Exposure.
August 29, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Add Cindy and you get Northern Exposure meets Green Acres. Fresh air! Time Square! Drill in ANWAR!
August 29, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Add Cindy and you get Northern Exposure meets Green Acres. Fresh air! Time Square! Drill in ANWAR!
August 29, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
mcsenile has to use up all his primary money before he accepts the nomination next week but if they are running ads in these states, someone in the campaign is "concerned". So, it would be interesting to know who is paying for the ads (RNC or mcsenile's primary campaign) and when the ads are running. After he accepts the nomination, he will be using the federal funds (also known as "taxpayer money") to finance his losing campaign. Talk about wasting taxpayer money!
If mcsenile has any brains he would have selected Elizabeth Dole or Susan Collins or even Lisa Murkowski to run with him - not this woman. I'm not sure what the current poll numbers for Dole and Collins are in their Senate races. Murkowski does not have to run again until 2010. This demonstrates more and more the onset of mcsenile's dementia - Utter lack of abilty to analyze and make careful decisions. This is no maverick - This is insane.
August 29, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, I went over and read Sully and listened to her audio about "plan to end the war ever" -
I don't know what to say. The thought of this woman as vice president is utterly terrifying.
August 29, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
and with just a heart beat, President of the United States of America, appointing supreme court justices, etc. etc. The horror The horror
August 29, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena: Did you read the comments under the you tube video? People are comparing her answer to the Miss Teen USA 2007 answer. WOW.
August 29, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew Sullivan has it exactly right, and this is where the Democrats should focus: per Sullivan......
Palin isn't the issue here. McCain's judgment is. It's completely off the wall.
August 29, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Sully is right.
(are monkeys flying out of my butt?)
August 29, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lemme look... Nope, they're still stuck in there.
August 29, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew Sullivan has it exactly right, and this is where the Democrats should focus: per Sullivan......
Palin isn't the issue here. McCain's judgment is. It's completely off the wall.
ALSO, ROVE ON KAINE when still up in the air:
"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years. He's been able but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done ... [Kaine] was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa, or Gilbert, Arizona; North Las Vegas, or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town."
August 29, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Regarding McCain's primary monies - I am under the assumption that any monies on hand he simply has to donate to the RNC. If that is the case, he doesn't need to spend it all, because the RNC can just run ads for him. Can anybody clarify this issue?
August 29, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey that's our hockey rink you're dissing!
The Pepsi Center was a hockey arena as well, and the X was a wonderful place to watch Obama claim victory this past June.
I'm just waiting to see the RNC's party suffer by comparison.
August 29, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am trying to reply to clearthinker on her recent post but the server is down, so I will say this: Why didn't McCain think of other Republican women with substantial credentials: Susan Collins, Elizabeth Dole, or Lisa Murkowski for example -- all Senators. Collins and Dole are up for reelection this year, Murkowski in 2010. Kay Bailey Hutchinson is thinking about a run for Governor. It would be nice to see him exercise sound judgment for once and select someone with experience and a degree of intelligence. Do you want this woman answering the phone at 3am? I don't. What can she do to fix the economy? Does she even know what Fannie Mae is, or does she think it's a box of candy? I do not feel McCain is at all serious about all this - It's just fun - like dropping naplam in Viet Nam. It's all just a game to him, something to satisfy his very sick ego.
On the money - I'm not sure - I worked on Kerry primary in finance/fundraising and I think all the money had to be used up before he accepted the nomination. Then, a new financial entity with new bank accounts was set up to receive the federal money. Both Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney accepted federal money in 2004.
August 29, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
NEW McCain/Palin buttons
http://www.betastart.com/SW/McPalin.jpg
August 29, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Before Nov. 4 there will be a new V.P. nominee for the GOP. I am shocked by the MSM backlash to this. All day they've been interviewing Republicans on why she's qualified to be President if something were to happen to McCain if he was elected. Not one has been able to give a legit argument. Wolf Blitz, of all people, backed Lindsay Graham into a corner when he asked him what foreign policy experience she has or what foreign leaders has she met with. He literally couldn't answer the question.
August 29, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
But to drop her for someone else means McCain made a mistake, and his EGO will not allow for that. Also, Christian nut jobs are so happy, how could he alienate them now?
August 29, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is no way McCain could survive changing his VP. Talk about flip-flopping. The Dems would destroy him on that.
August 29, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would sum it up as McCain and company realized that the CIC/Experience schtick wasn't going to get him to the White House, so now it is the True Reformers schtick. And if you bring up this whole issue of being ready on day one you're just being well rude or difficult.
August 29, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um - well, McLame changed his campaign staff 3 times.
I don't think she'll have any choice - she's got big legal problems that are all coming due in November. I don't what is going here -
August 29, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a very dumb question and do apologize in advance: Can Romney select Pawlenty as his VP and can their names be put in nomination next week? Let's turn their convention into even more of a circus.
I am sure Putin would be on his way to Cuba to pay a visit on the Castros (Fidel and Raoul) if there were not these hurricanes happening. What would McCain/Bush/Cheney do if that happened? And what would Palin think about all this, or does she think all Cuba is good for is exporting cigars and music.
August 29, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
He suspended his campaign so yes he could and cause a fight on the floor between the delegates. But Mitt's strength was the fundamental religious right and from what I've seen they're gaga over her. Guns and God and No Choice. So probably not very likely he would get anywhere. Actually the best is to let them get into a frenzy and show America next week what they are, and what she is.
August 29, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a very dumb question and do apologize in advance: Can Romney select Pawlenty as his VP and can their names be put in nomination next week? Let's turn their convention into even more of a circus.
I am sure Putin would be on his way to Cuba to pay a visit on the Castros (Fidel and Raoul) if there were not these hurricanes happening. What would McCain/Bush/Cheney do if that happened? And what would Palin think about all this, or does she think all Cuba is good for is exporting cigars and music.
August 29, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, that ticket makes more sense now.
I'm waiting for this ad:
He had millions of votes but he wasn't picked. Mitt Romney, because he said the truth. Video of McCain-Romney fighting. John McCain is not ready to lead.
August 29, 2008 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN Cafferty question / comment video......fun!
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/08/29/the.cafferty.file.friday.cnn
August 29, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this double posts I am sorry, this is a mess here today blogging. Here is the link to CNN's Cafferty today, fun watch.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/08/29/the.cafferty.file.friday.cnn
August 29, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are moments when it's nice to know that CNN has the best ratings. I caught CNN later and I wish I could remember who was defending the decision to choose her but Cafferty was absolutely pissed off, I mean personally insulted as an American that McCain would make this choice for the political expediency. And to that question: 90% against from both sides of the ailse.
August 29, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Acamus: I totally agree. I also am wondering, is anyone watching Fox (I cannot handle it) and what is the reaction there?
August 29, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now watching Obama going local in Beaver, PA. After last night seeing him at the picnic with about what 100 people, maybe (chanting Obama Obama Obama). Cool.
August 29, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
There was just the one thing I saw posted on the front page here where someone argued that she had foreign policy experience because ...Alaska is next to...Russia.
August 29, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I wanted to add he went after the Palin defender, calling the choice "a joke" (and more agitated than usual) and if you want to make a choice based on judgment, then it shouldn't be the person who chose her.
August 29, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a great link POW'd !!!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/28/1519/91558
August 29, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sullivan's "Misreading Women" post is interesting.
I was watching MSNBC's analysis of her speech this afternoon with my fiance and after they brought up her 5 kids and the one with Down Syndrome, my fiance got up and said, "Turn this off. This is pissing me off. She should be home with her kids."
It's an interesting angle.
August 29, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's always been the problem for these women leaders on the far right - and some of them absolutely preach what they preach and to hell with what you think of what they're doing.
I said earlier - I don't believe rightwing Xians do paradox. Or irony.
At all -
August 29, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
So at NRO they started the day either very pumped or skeptical and then you can see how they went from skeptical to trying to convince themselves this was great. I really have to wonder though if the serious neocons are going to buy into this. I think we will have to wait to see what sort of pageantry they put up.
Oh and about the kids--John Podhoretz (commentary mag) says that Palin is great because it gets them People mag covers and indeed her first real interview is with People magazine about breastfeeding.
August 29, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aaahhh....exploiting the children. There's those lovely family values in action.
August 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, so are leaning on your law enforcement commissioner to fire a state trooper because he's locked in a divorce and child custody battle with your - what was it? Sister? I can't remember -
August 29, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
One of my co-workers is totally torn, part of her says she is walking away at a time she should be with her infant, and the other side just as strong is all for a woman being able to pursue this opportunity. She paused and then said. "Intersting."
August 29, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hyper: I agree with your fiance. Unless Mr. Alaska governor is home with the kids. But still, they need a Mom, and even Karen Hughes recognized that fact.
August 29, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't Mr. Alaska Governor a commercial fisherman or something? Doesn't that entail being out on the water for extended periods of time?
August 29, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
From what I've read, he works for BP oil. Not as an executive...some sort of production supervisor or something.
August 29, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the 50 state strategy at work -- putting Republicans on defense in red states like Virginia and North Carolina.
Thank you, Howard Dean!
August 29, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is good factual stuff and excellent video on how dumb this woman is.
http://firedoglake.com/
August 29, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ready on day one. Putin is smiling to the extent that he can smile.
August 29, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
How in the world, if she's still around by the time the debates roll around, is she going to be able to debate Joe Biden?
He'll smile so nice and just so politely mince her up in very small pieces. And Joe authored the Crimes Against Women Act - his feminist creds out do hers all to hell since she ain't got any, no matter what she claims.
August 29, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You doubt the power of a hockey mom to debate geo-political ramifications of a tilt in power in the Balkans?
August 29, 2008 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
She shoots! She scores!!!
August 29, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tom Brokaw: When we come back, did Palin score a hat trick in tonight's debate?
August 29, 2008 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The good about the Biden-Palin matchup is that Joe can destroy her (on the issues) without destroying her (because is a woman). His record on women's issues is just a plus. He won't go for the yugular but still he's now on control already.
August 29, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's just amazing watching the Repuobs just change the subject when it comes to CIC and experience question in regards to Palin. Other experiences that have nothing to do with foreign policy is suddenly important. There are tiny vein in their forehead imploding as they twist and squirm, trying to avoid the fact that McCain has made the entire campaign up to now about foreign policy and experience. I expect a few them spend a few moments tomorrow morning staring into the bathroom mirror asking themselves "what the hell have I become?"
August 29, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is the server OK now?
Gwen Ifill (PBS Newshour and Washington Week)is the moderator for the VP debate. Between Biden and Ifill, they will put her in her place - back in the igloo. (Jim Lehrer is the moderator for the first debate - between Obama and mcsenile)
Have Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman (McCain econ advisors, fundraisers) stopped crying yet, or are they about through with the second box of tissues. Are they going to switch to Romney at the convention? What about some of the female, Republican senators: Collins, Dole, Murkowski, Snow --- Should be interesting to see how they react. We'll have to Sunday talk show schedule Saturday, if it's not already available.
Thank you all of you for monitoring CNN, etc. They'd have to pay me to watch that. I watched the entire convention this week on CSPAN and all of you missed some incredible speeches by retired military, veterans, average Americans, Republicans - There is no doubt in my mind Obama/Biden have this wrapped up, even without the Clintons.
I read a few weeks ago that Putin is interested in renewing ties with Cuba - Too bad he probably won't be paying Raoul and Fidel a visit next week - The hurricanes make it too risky for him I would think. Palin probably thinks Cuba is just about exporting cigars and music. And what does Palin think should be done about Fannie Mae - or does she think this is a box of candy.
August 29, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect it's as OK now as it ever was. It's just that the load has dropped below the point where it gets braincramped.
August 29, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which could bring up another question - how does a governor that is supposedly VP material find time to edit WIKI pages. And wouldn't there be more important things to do to get ready?
August 29, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This stupid damn choice is an insult to women who aren't white rightwing Xian nutjobs. She's anti-everything woman.
August 29, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. I love Andrew Sullivan. I do.
Think about what the Palin pick really says about how McCain views this campaign and how he views his potential responsibilities in national security.
Think about what it says about the sincerity of McCain's own central criticism of Obama these past two months in foreign affairs.
Think about how he picked a woman to be a heartbeat away from a war presidency who hadn't even thought much, by her own admission, about the Iraq war as late as 2007.
Think about how he made this decision barely knowing the woman.
Think about the fact that the most McCain could say about his potential war-time vice-president in foreign affairs and national security when selecting her is that she commanded Alaska's National Guard as governor and has a son in the military.
Think about the men and women serving this country who have every right to trust that their potential commander-in-chief, whatever their party, would have some record of even interest in foreign policy before assuming office.
Think about how the key factor in this decision was not who could defend this country were something dreadful happen to McCain in office but how to tread as much on Obama's convention bounce and use women's equality as a wedge issue among Democrats because it might secure a few points here or there. Oh, and everyone would be surprised. And even Rove would be annoyed.
Please. This is his sense of honor and judgment. This is his sense of responsibility and service.
Here's the real slogan the McCain campaign should now adopt:
Putting. Country. Last.
August 29, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said. Well said.
August 29, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
August 29, 2008 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
McLame has officially ruined himself in the course of this campaign.
I'm not even going to say that's just my opinion. I think it's everyone's opinion.
August 29, 2008 10:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this country was experiencing the mid-90s, politically one could see this choice as just a political hail mary. But facing an economic crisis that could leave this country in tatters (to put it mildly), wars in two countries and isolated, to choose her (based on one meeting) is damn near criminal.
August 29, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Paul Begala has really pissed me off this campaign season, but I have to agree with his assessment tonight: this decision was reckless.
I keep hearing people say it's like Dan Quayle...but this is not 1988. We're at frickin' war for cripes sake...and Mr. Experience decides the mayor of a town with 8,000 people is the best person in this country to lead us forward? Give me a break.
August 29, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same goes with Carville. Politics make for strange bedfellows. But his attack on this decision was rather entertaining esp. when he was going at with one of McCain's Stepford spokeswomen. She was about to blow a gasket, as he just hammered on his perplexity that McCain made this choie based on one meeting. Assholes are bearable when they're on your side.
August 29, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. All McCain's female spokespersons are just like Stepford Wives indeed. I wonder why...
August 29, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The humans ones required too much medication to keep them on message with a smile.
August 29, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, true...
August 30, 2008 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dead on.
August 29, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, and one last thing before I take the dogs for a walk. I can't get over how fucking uncomfortable and awkward McCain looked standing there listening to Palin's speech today. It's fucking priceless.
August 29, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
My favorite was when he announced her name, he had to look down at his sheet to make sure he got it right.
Hilarious.
VP = Vagina Pandering
August 29, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the woman is so annoying talking. Please. Todaym when I saw her for the first time, I was stunned. WTF? I thought to myself. This is a major gamble for McCain. And then she opened her mouth.
That was just it. A high school principal from a Disney Channel movie is a heartbeat away from the presidency of the USA.
The first thing on my mind was: God, thank you.
McCain has (in a unbelievable way) throw the election. He just gave away his main argument in the name of political pandering. This undeniable "clusterfuck" (there's no other way to call this) is indeed a game-changer. For us. When CNN's Jack Cafferty said today than it is Christmas for the Democarts, he wasn't kidding. McCain has shot himself in the foot by eliminating the only real advantage he had.
He's trying to pick Hillary voters, but Palin's record shows she's the complete opposite. He's trying to get the evangelicals fired up and maybe he has accomplished that, but the price to pay for him will be so high. In the subjects that matter, Palin is a blank page, period. Is now the task of Obama, Biden and above all, Hillary, to show the real consequences of Palin being VP. I said before that Romney looked to me as the "Manchurian Candidate", but what if Palin is the real sleeper agent of the religious right, behind McCain's "maverick" image. The record shows she's with them in every single issue.
Also I have to recognize the work of sites like TPM and some real journalists that, in matter of hours, are discovering the real Sarah Palin. Just the way she approaches the Iraq War is something alarming and his picture of her holding a M4 carabine makes the Dukakis tank photo op look like a Patton picture. Begala is right: an ordinary american should be concerned. And only after two meetings and a very light vetting, this woman has passed the CIC threshold? She's already in an ethics investigation in Alaska. WTF?
The only real downside to this is the loss of Alaska as a swing state, but if that the sacrifice, in order to allow this GOP ticket to continue four more years of Bush-Cheney politics, so be it. We have the upper hand this time: the party is now united, the DNC was the more exciting story in recent political memory, the financial and ground game advantage is ours, the Obama-Biden ticket is stronger than ever and above all: Americans want change for real and a 72 years old POW and a Hockey mom will not give it to them. Now more than ever, we must do anything to make our case in this 67 days left.
As the daisy ad said: The stakes are too high to stay home.
August 29, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry for the typos.
August 29, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent hyperRevue - Putting. Country. Last
I just read at CNN/Political Ticker than mcsenile only met Palin once, per Dana Bash. Here's part of what was reported:
"John McCain first met Sarah Palin only six months ago and had just one conversation with the Alaska governor before offering her the vice presidential slot on the Republican ticket, the Arizona senator's campaign said Friday.
The move appears to be a marked departure for McCain — a man known for his tendency to surround himself with a close circle of advisers and politicians he has long felt comfortable with."
I guess it was "love at first site".
August 29, 2008 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be clear, that was all Andrew Sullivan.
August 29, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Begala is going off about this, As a Democrat I'm thrilled about the pick, as a American I am appalled. This is a man who has had cancer 4 times and he puts her one heart beat away from being the President after one meeting. It's reckless.
Reckless. The word he keeps repeating. Now if Dems were Repubs, every Dem politician, strategist amd consultant would use the word "reckless" no less twice per minute. Hammer it over and over. Great woman, wonderful qualities but the choice based on one meeting is reckless reckless reckless.
During the primary I hated Begala, but now that he is on my side he's growing on me (kind of like algea)
August 29, 2008 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Great minds think alike...see my response to your post above. :-)
August 29, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. I just posted to that response and then saw this one. It makes me think that although there may habe been a peace offering (based on more or less self-interest) made between the two camps, this choice of Palin may actually galvanize the Dem power brokers because deep down they really don't want America to spiral off into a third world country.
August 29, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink