Sebelius And Kaine Booked To Discuss Obama's Veep Choice On Sunday Shows
Here's yet more grist for the mindless-Veep-speculation mill.
I've just gotten a hold of the internal Sunday-shows lineup that the Obama campaign's TV booker sends out to select Democrats. It shows that Kathleen Sebelius and Tim Kaine are both scheduled to appear on shows this Sunday to discuss Obama's Veep choice, which will likely have been announced by then.
Some might want to see this as a sign that they may be out of contention -- since the Obama campaign's booker helped arrange these appearances.
Sebelius is set to appear on CBS' Face the Nation with Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell and Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. Kaine is scheduled to appear on Fox News Sunday with Colorado Governor Bill Ritter.
Of course, this could mean absolutely nothing, too. If one of them is picked for Veep, he or she could simply be pulled from his or her Sunday appearance.
Like I said, more grist for the mindless-speculation mill. At least you now know who you'll likely be watching on TV this Sunday.
My bet is on Chet Edwards.
Or Lincoln Chafee.
And Politico is reporting that Clinton wasn't vetted. At all.
August 22, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're just kidding, aren't you?
If it's not Tim Kaine, I'm going to label Obama an asshole. Kaine has been with him from the beginning and he doesn't even have a freaking speaking slot at the convention!! Governors from WV, PA, CO, MT, MA and everywhere else in the freaking country are speaking but not Kaine???
Either he's not scheduled because he's the veep or Obama is a total asshole who uses the guy as a surrogate but won't give him a little primetime.
August 22, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kaine really impressed me on MTP last week and then with the house-gaffe yesterday.
August 22, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too, Hyper! He was also on Charlie Rose for the entire hour a few weeks ago and I was totally impressed. He's so bright and focused and is better in the interview setting than Barack because he doesn't stutter and stammer and make those long-winding professorial answers.
He's also very good at the comeback but because he seems so mellow, it's a tough hit that doesn't seem nasty.
Finally, I've heard him speak. He's very good. He speaks fluent Spanish, he blue collar and can get some of those moderates.
If it's not Kaine, I'll be disappointed. If he doesn't get a speaking slot at the convention, I'll have steam coming out of my ears!
August 22, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, calm down. That's like saying that being mad that a childhood friend didn't make you his best man. Shit, he's invited to the wedding! What really matters here?
More people know who Tim Kaine is than ever before, and for that he can thank Barack Obama.
August 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
So let me get this straight: There are a hundred speaking slots at the convention and Kaine (who was the first person outside of Illinois to endorse and raise money for Obama, who goes out as a surrogate for him, who's the head of the state Obama wants desperately to carry) doesn't deserve one of them but folks who haven't lifted a finger to help him do?? Makes sense to me. NOT!
This isn't about being the best man at the wedding. It's about not even being *invited* to the wedding!
August 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's quite possible, given his obvious strength in the field, that they may have better planned uses for Kaine elsewhere.
If we have to stick to the Wedding Crashers parlance, maybe he's more of the Two Hotdog Doorman out in the parking lot.
August 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it just POSSIBLE that Obama is trying to make his practice and prospective administration not about the rewards-for-support culture that Washington is so fatally attached to? Is it not equally possible that Kaine's reason for supporting Obama was that he thought he'd make the best President, not because he wanted tit-for-tat rewards for it?
Sheesh.
August 22, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Duhhhh. Have you looked at the convention speaker list? They're people who have helped Obama's campaign and/or came through for him when things were tough. So he is rewarding them with speaking spots. If you don't think Kaine deserves that at a minimum, then you're an asshole, too! Sheez.
August 22, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I'm not kidding. Why all the irritation?
I happen to think Kaine is a mediocre candidate, at best. I'd prefer him to Bayh, but Kaine just doesn't do anything for me.
Chet Edwards has been vetted, so that's not completely unreasonable.
And I just threw in Lincoln Chafee because he's a former Republican now independent. Talk about bipartisanship. Plus, Marc Ambinder reported last week or so that the Secret Service was supposedly all over Providence. Leading to speculation that Jack Reed was going to be the pick. I think Chafee.
And this is all mindless speculation, anyway.
August 22, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry about the "irritation." Chet Edwards is a guy with a toxic last name that nobody's ever heard of. He has no executive experience and has not lifted a finger to help Obama.
Lincoln Chaffe is a Republican who lost his senate seat. He's a terrible speaker.
IMO, Tim Kaine is a great pick because, as a governor, he can talk about kitchen table issues and the economy. That's the #1 concern for the electorate, not foreign policy. Picking a governor of a big, well-run state that in play this year gives them a chance to own the economy.
If Obama picks Biden, he's essentially saying "OK, McCain I'm going to fight this war on your turf (even though that's not where the country is) but I'm not experienced enough to do it on my own, so I have to bring in my Dad to help me."
August 22, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woah, slow your roll. You're treading on PUMAs for Kaine territory there. Appreciate the enthusiasm.
My money is still on Biden...besides Sibelius, who isn't in the running, the rest are from states whose seats will go red if they pull them out.
Still crossing my fingers for Gore...
August 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either Kaine or Edwards (Chet) is a move to throw gays and lesbians under the bus.
August 22, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell me what anti-Gay thing Tim Kaine has ever done. Either do that or STFU!
August 22, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
via HuffPOst
August 22, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
too many tabs open in firefox for me. this is what I think minnesconsin was referring to.
August 22, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry. scratch that. I messed up.
August 22, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Linc is the first Republican I even considered liking.
Though The Jackson I sent to Shel Whitehouse was money well spent.
August 22, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kaine is impressive, but Obama can't pick a VP based on loyalty, or who owes whom. That would be crazy. He can't even base his pick on personal chemistry.
Personally, I'm hoping for a big surprise.
August 22, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, maybe no formal veting. Perhaps Obama just looked into her eyes in a Bush-Putin mindmeld moment and determined she was the one.
August 22, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet!
August 22, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope. I let youz guyz watch that drivel so I dont have to!
August 22, 2008 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
heh. I'll make sure our video editor see this.
August 22, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be absolutely sincere, I really do appeciate these sacrifices you make for us. It must be really hard to resist the temptation to gouge your eyes out. Thanks!
August 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
No! I won't!
I refuse to entertain anymore of the mindless Veep speculation.
I don't want to talk about the possibility of Joe fucking Biden being Veep.
No no no no no!
August 22, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on! I've been praying for Barry to pick Joe for months!!!
August 22, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, when we have a candidate named "Barry" maybe he will pick him, SFC.
But since our candidate is named Barrack, I guess you'll have to wait.
August 22, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well he went by Barry back when I lived in Carbondale IL. He became Barack when he started to become a celebrity.
August 22, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
O yeah I forgot about his winning on American Idol and changing his name.
August 22, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're full of it. He started asking to be called "Barack" in college.
August 22, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm always full of it...remember?
August 22, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sweetheart, it could be just as much Barry as it is, as you write it, "Barrack"
August 22, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can someone offer forth a little pro/con list about Chet Edwards? That would definitely be a "dark horse" pick.
August 22, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet Edwards is smart, calm and a great campaigner. He is married to the daughter of a Baptist minister in Waco and his the father of two boys.
Chet championed Fort Hood (until Tom DeLay sliced it out of the district) and the VA hospitals in Temple and Waco. US military and veterans have no better friend than Chet.
DeLay tried repeatedly without success to redistrict Chet out of office; Edwards' district includes Crawford, so he is W's rep, a real sore point for DeLay.
I used to live in Chet's district, before DeLay's last re-redistricting, and know that Democrats and Republicans alike admire the man. His opposition has always come from the extreme nutty right of the GOP, including an Iraq War veteran Marine who was literally deployed by the Repugs to come in and run against Chet.
I would feel very comfortable with Chet Edwards as president. I am a big admirer of Barack Obama, and my admiration would increase tenfold if (when) he picks Chet as his veep.
August 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet is an Aggie. Some will consider that a drawback, I reckon.
August 22, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hook 'em Horns
August 22, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
O I'd be thrilled, just for the possibility of turning Texas blue.
I just have a problem imagining anyone picking another Texan right now. Commander Coocoo Bananas isn't a Texan - he's a goddamn carpetbagger from Connecticut. But most of the country sees and hears him as a Texan and boy that's a risk right now.
August 22, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it time we let the world know what a real Texan looks like, Tena?
August 22, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just don't think people care all that much about what state someone is from...even with all the damage Bush has wreaked on the Texan brand.
Actually, people would be made to care if the person came from California or New York or Massachusetts, because that person would be branded in a nanosecond by the RNC as an effete out of touch liberal.
August 22, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, like I said, I'd love it.
Chet is a hell of a good guy and I see cars here from Texas with Chet Edwards bumper stickers on them. He'd be great for Texas, no doubt about it, and he'd be great in general. I'm all for it - I'm just being realistic about how the rest of the country might feel.
Texas and Texans ain't all that popular. Never have been, really. Too bad because there are some awesome people in Texas - when we're liberal, man are we liberal.
August 22, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet was one of the first of the superdelegates to come out for Barack, in mid-February.
Chet blasted McCain (and Cornyn) on their opposition to the Webb GI Bill.
August 22, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet was one of the first of the superdelegates to come out for Barack, in mid-February.
Chet blasted McCain (and Cornyn) on their opposition to the Webb GI Bill, and he has the clout with veterans groups to make it matter.
August 22, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
This Chet character has been rolled out now as a "finalist" probably so that folks can brace for the fact that the chosen VP will also be a surprise. The soup was not just made up of Bayh, Biden and Kaine, afterall. Chefs Obama, Axelrod and Plouffe have decided to add a little seasoning, a little spice to the pot before serving Schweitzer up.
August 22, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
As long as Biden gets to be Sec. State cornbread
August 22, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Edwards vetting could be only a signal of courtesy to Pelosi. But anything is possible. His choice would be a real jaw dropper.
For me, honestly, it's going to be Biden or Schweitzer. Kaine is getting better and please, not Bayh. Sebelius was out a long time ago, but I like her. My dark horse: Richardson, but it's not gonna happen. Hillary? She wasn't vetted but never say never.
The MSM are dying to know. If this continues like this on CNN, someone is going to get hurt on screen. The tension there can be cut with a knife.
PD: The DNC stage and podium are sick. Beautiful to look at and I can't wait to see it on TV. Kudos to the designers and builders. Denver will be huge and St. Paul looks to be "a saddening bore". (But their podium looks really stylish).
To see the DNC stage, go here:
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/08/democratic-podium-officially-unveiled.html
August 22, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN: Chet Edwards hasn't talk to Obama recently.
Looks like it's not him. Rope-a-dope! Stay tuned...
August 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
What does "recently" mean?
August 22, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm only put what they said. What that means is up to you.
August 22, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/22/chet-edwards/
August 22, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
You just know there are some Obama advisors sitting around in Chicago watching CNN and laughing hysterically.
August 22, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Governor Brian Schweitzer is my pick for VP!
August 22, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama1st-
I agree with you on this. I think he is a great pick and points to the larger Democratic party reformation based in the mountain west. Given that Pbama has a stop on Sunday in Billings, MT for no apparent reason, I can't help but SPECULATE and POSTULATE, that this trip is either a false flag or a dead giveaway that Schweitzer is the pick.
That or it's Colin Powell.
August 22, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Colin Powell? Are you fucking nuts?
Powell is a nightmare. The man has no honor at all. He was part of the torture group for the love of god.
Stop that right now!
August 22, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena:
The Colin Powell thing is my own personal hobgoblin. I doubt that it is him, but there are certain signals that Powell is going to come up as a player in this election in some manner.... specifically critical of the Bush administration. As a veep pick he neutrializes the race issue and can openly attack the McCain/Bush hegemony from the inside... and he can commit an open an gracious mea culpa for the UN debacle that helped lead us into the Iraq mess. He is pro-choice and has impeccable foreign credentials from a dovish standpoint. His only mistake is huge and threatens to undermine his kegacy, and supporting/campaigning for Obama would heal a lot of that damage.
August 22, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Ultimate Headfake: Bill Clinton.
August 22, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since Obama's a basketball player, he's a master of the feint. We won't know 'til we know.
August 22, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
That may be the most astute observation yet.
August 22, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
TENA -
Check this out, seriously.
http://www.236.com/news/2008/08/20/if_they_imd_obamas_vp_prospect_1_8389.php
August 22, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
God that's hilarious! LOLOLOLOL!!!!
Thank you for that -
August 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now every time I see a photo of Kaine I think of his mom and a gopher . . .
August 22, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm still crossing my fingers for Russ. I'd pretty much given up hope until I saw the Obama schedule for Sunday. He's in Eau Claire, WI. My college stomping grounds.
Be sure to stop in at the The Point on Water St. if you're ever there (and remember NO light beer).
August 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, that's the Joynt on Water St. where you can order a Point beer.
August 22, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd just like to add that the anticipation is killing me! I'm such a dork.
August 22, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, yes you are.
LOL!!!!!!!!! I'm just kidding. I'm the best mood for a change.
August 22, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too. I'm really pumped for the next week- VP, conventions, MN State Fair. Yep, still a dork.
August 22, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a feeling it's Joe Biden. And while I was driving that bandwagon, I really hope it isn't. I think Joe will be happy with his role in the Senate or as Sec of State, and really doesn't want the VP spot.
I really like Biden and he has done a lot of good thing,s but he also has some potential targets and the Republicans will focus on some of his bad votes and bills and distract from the overall message Obama is trying to get across.
August 22, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
And that's Biden's biggest problem. Enough of a history to make him a solid choice, and enough of a history to distract the chattering classes from what really matters.
August 22, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok that clinches it - it ain't going to be Biden.
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!
August 22, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's as if Obama has gone out of his way to insult Hillary and her supporters. How difficult would it have been to at least vet her and go through the motions of pretending that the woman who won the popular vote in the primary was at least under consideration?
The difference between Obama and McCain is that McCain wants to win, while Obama thinks he's already won. The word is that McCain may choose Romney as VP, even though he hates him, because he knows that Romney would do the most to help the ticket. That's the difference between a politician who knows how to win and a shallow celebrity.
August 22, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"shallow celebrity" LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
Here's a hint: if you want to not give yourself away, you should probably avoid echoing McCain talking points.
McCain, who has, what, 8 houses, a wife worth a cool 100 million, and has appeared in how many movies? That shallow celebrity?
August 22, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes McCain ehos my talking points...soooo...
August 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "not vetted" thing is based on an unnamed Dem source. We can't know for certain if it's true. Also, does Hillary really need to be vetted? Finally, how do you know Hillary didn't expressly tell Obama that she doesn't want the veep spot and that she doesn't want to be vetted. There's also the possibility that she was vetted and this is a big headfake. Whatever, the case, you're flipping out on Obama - the only Dem candidate for president we have - based on unconfirmed info from an anonymous source? Sounds a lot like what the Bush administration did in the lead up to the Iraq war, and we know how that worked out.
August 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would be insulting to vet her if you had no intention to pick her. Vetting isn't fun, you have to make your life an open book, completely.
Biden said he would only open himself up to be vetted if Obama personally and in person told him he had a real chance.
August 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was led to believe, during the primaries mind you, that there was No Need to vet Senator Clinton. Did the many myriad Clinton supporters lead me astray in that assertion?
There's no way they did that - i must be thinking of McGuyver again.
August 22, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
BotBoy:
Then there's the possibility that who'd make a good President might also enter into BigO's calculations, not just the horse-race considerations. I know that's a foreign idea to you Red Trolls.
August 22, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you joking? Why in the hell would Obama have to "vet" the self-proclaimed "most vetted candidate" in history...and someone he had 16 months to do opposition research on.
God, people just don't use their brains.
August 22, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard word that Obama told Nancy Pelosi she would be pleased. Seemed like a rumor, no direct quote. But if true... Chet?
August 22, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is the clincher!
Chet Edwards!
August 22, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on - you really want Chet Edwards so you see Chet Edwards everywhere.
I hope when it's announced, we all say: HUH? Who the hell is that?
That would make my life right now I think.
August 22, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Edwards affair killed any chance Chet Edwards would get the gig.
Obama/Edwards would confuse too many people and hurt Barack's chances.
August 22, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it's perfect... Chet edwards in the hall of a motel "Do not disturb" sign on the door. "I'm Chet Edwards...no, the other guy." Like the old Goodrich commercials.
August 22, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
You really think people are that stupid?
August 22, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes.
August 22, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonze....serious question here....do you ever see the bright spot in ANYTHING? Might I suggest a picture of "Eeyore" if you ever decide to change your avatar? :-)
August 22, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Serious answer - I'm not half as bad as some here like to make me out to be.
American Prayer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVi4rUzf-0Q
August 22, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll admit that I'm a bit of a skeptic myself when it comes to most things, but you should try and pace yourself...you're going to end up with an ulcer by the time the election gets here. :-)
August 22, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really believe that even the voters in the shallow end of the gene pool are familiar with the concept of different people having the same last name.
August 22, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet has my vote if it's him. Why? This from Wiki:
--He is the only Texan to vote against the Defense of Marriage Act.--
Now that must've taken guts! Good on Chet.
August 22, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
"He is the only Texan to vote against the Defense of Marriage..." How'd you know what our first commercial was gonna be?
August 22, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every dollar McCain spends preaching to the freeper choir is a dollar he doesn't spend running for president.
August 22, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, and we're effin' shakin' in our booties. Please continue with your 2004 attacks. Not out-dated at all. Do you really think that's an issue with the populance these days? No major outcry over California after all and you know what? Straight marriages are perfectly fine. Who'd a thunk it?
Oh, and the majority of the country thinks it's fine to legally recongnize it 58 to 36%.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/13/opinion/polls/main4180335.shtml
The conservative world is crumbling.
August 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chet-wards... Ho!
August 22, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it did take guts. He's a good guy, Josephcast - no fooling.
Like I said - when Texans are liberal, man are we liberal. We have to fight all the time to be heard, to get anywhere and it sure anneals the liberalness in us - we get tough about it.
August 22, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lot of rightwingers have been trying to paint Chet Edwards as a "liberal" for years, Tena, and he keeps getting elected in a conservative district.
August 22, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is definitely a good guy. I was surprised he was able to survive the GOP redistricting coup that occurred 5-6 years ago. It was a real shame losing Martin Frost then.
August 22, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did he really vote for DoMA? Seems contradictory to this vote:
He supports oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and for the constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.
And it ain't just Geraghty saying this...I saw it on other sites as well.
I'm not big on Edwards regardless, although since I only first heard his name a few weeks back when Pelosi mentioned him in that interview, so maybe I don't know enough about him.
August 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm expecting the text/email at any minute now. I think they'll use the VP coverage to further hammer McCain on his "I don't know how many houses" issue to really drive it home.
August 22, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ya'll think YOU have the dirt?
I know a bum who was going through Joe Biden's garbage cans, and he found a some Taco Bell wrappers which from DNA testing clearly had Obama's DNA on them, so.....
This speculation by reporters is reaching an unbelievable level of inanity. Guess it beats working.
August 22, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
That right there is what motivates our entire useless goddamn media - ultra laziness and a lack of much in the way of brains.
August 22, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
More on Edwards conservative tendencies here and here.
Folks, if we want a conservative as our veep pick, Obama may as well just pick Hagel.
August 22, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Must see video - American Prayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVi4rUzf-0Q
GOP can raise a stink about it all they like. F'em!
August 22, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was it Ben Smith who said Edwards voted AGAINST DoMA? More on Chet . I've actually seen the word "anti-gay" attached to his name in some Google searches. This is from the TAPPED piece I linked to in this post:
"Perhaps most egregiously, he was one of thirty-six House Democrats to vote in favor of the the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004."
Having an anti-gay running mate ain't going to swing this election in favor of Obama. John Freaking McCain OPPOSED the Federal Marriage Amendment.
August 22, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why would Nancy Pelosi be trying to get him on the ticket?
August 22, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm looking at Chet Edwards' voting record and it's kind of shaky. Voted for the Iraq war, voted for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, voted against raising CAFE standards and more funds for alternative fuels a few years ago. Knowing that last point, how can we go at McCain for failing to head off the energy crisis while in Washington all those years when we got Chet Edwards around our necks?
August 22, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Breaking News:
Second Obama ad on McCain's "Houses-gate":
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/outoftouch_ad/
Awesome! This is getting better!
August 22, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain & Bush 41 on a golf car. Priceless.
August 22, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama picks Hillary its all over but the shouting, McCain might as well suspend his campaign.
August 22, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Picking HIlliary would hand the election to McCain. It would be a disaster.
That ticket would only improve Obama's margins in states he can still anyway and Christ knows what trouble it would invite.
It's about breaking through in states that East Coast Democrats have failed in miserably in recent decades.
Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, and Virginia.
The likes of Biden and Hilliary do not really add that much in most of those states. So what....Obama only wins Pennsylvania by 4% instead of 9% because folks in Butler can't deal with the brother.
Once Mark Warner refused Obama again last week, Obama went with Plan B. Brian Schweitzer.
Plan B offers just as good a trajectory to the White House as Plan A. Infact, Obama-Schweitzer is geographically more compelling than Obana-Warner.
August 22, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
What happened to this guy?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB117729466180378622-EfRd3v5nBv3QBfi5cUh2mSLhH7U_20080422.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU5ovy0bp-A
It is known that Obama thinks the world of General Jones and was vetting him. After an obligatory appearence at an energy forum for McCain the pundits stopped talking about him. This might have been a mistake as Jones fits Obama perfectly.
August 22, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Want more quotes? Follow this link - http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/22/gigolo/index.html
August 22, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
No matter who Obama picks, its a win/lose situation. I have my preferences but then I have a feeling that he is going to make a decision that makes the most people upset than if he chose someone else. Regardless, people will be upset anyhow.
Hopefully in the future, using 20/20 hindsight, the pick will look better than initially.
August 22, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
HAIL TO THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF BARACK OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT WESLEY CLARK,CLARK THE REAL MASTER OF FOREIGN POLICY AND NATIONAL SECURITY,IF DAVID AXELROD,DAVID PLOUFFE AND BARACK IS SO SMART THEY WOULD LOOK AT CLARK RECORD HIS RECORD IS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE OUT OF ALL THEM CANDIDATES THE MEDIA CALLIN I DONT HEAR NOBODY MENTION CLARK NAME WHICH IS A GOOD SIGN,ALSO HE ALSO GOT A DEGREE IN ECONOMICS AND HES ANTI-WAR.OBAMA/CLARK08!!!!
August 22, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,CLARK,!!!!!
August 22, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is interesting:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/fun_with_flightaware_whats_thi.php
August 22, 2008 9:37 PM | Reply | Permalink