Poll: Obama Slipping In The Three Largest Swing States
A new round of swing state polls from Quinnipiac reminds us just how high the stakes are at the Democratic convention. Barack Obama's leads in Ohio and Pennsylvania have slipped, leaving with slim leads in both states, while John McCain has taken the lead in Florida.
The numbers, compared to two months ago:
Florida
McCain (R) 47% (+4)
Obama (D) 43% (-4)
Margin of error: ±3%Ohio
Obama (D) 44% (-4)
McCain (R) 43% (+1)
Margin of error: ±2.8%Pennsylvania
Obama (D) 49% (-3)
McCain (R) 42% (+2)
Margin of error: ±2.8%
From the pollster's analysis: "Eight weeks ago, Sen. Barack Obama was on top in all three of these key swing states and that would make his election almost a sure thing. Times have changed and the election is now very much a tossup in these states. Sen. Obama needs this convention to give his campaign a jump start."
Late Update: On the other hand, it's worth noting that Obama's lead in Pennsylvania is unchanged since last month, suggesting that he's ahead by a stable margin in a state is historically very close.















Compare those above numbers with the text from the link:
August 26, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
But apparently Mr. Obama's not the Democrat they want...?
August 26, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
The majority of Democratic voters want Barack Obama as the president. The minority want Hillary.
Either the Hillary supporters follow Obama and his democratic values, or they follow McCain and his republican values.
Being bitter is being selfish.
August 26, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Being bitter is being a moron, in this instance.
August 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Being bitter is being both, period.
August 26, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Being bitter is being both, period.
August 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Double post, crap!
August 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
You don't get it.
Clinton's supporters are only going to come closer together behind Barack Obama, and Hillary and Bill are going to help them do it.
McCain has done well over the past month, somewhat expectedly, because he has a warchest he needs to spend before his convention. After that point, he is restricted to campaign financing laws, and will be outspent about two or three to one until the end of the election... something we've never seen before in modern times.
By the time the election takes place, McCain's arguments about Obama's "elitism" and "celebrity status" are going to seem pretty ludicrous, and simply won't convince anyone except those who feel the need to believe such rubbish... and those are mostly a dying generation of cynics.
A Democratic future. Get used to it.
August 26, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary is asking her supporters to back Obama, and they are not backing Obama, then they aren't really Hillary supporters, are they?
August 26, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
In their deluded minds, they see Hillary giving them a wink every time she says that.
August 26, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
They're independent thinkers.
August 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forget 527s. Bet they'll spend quite a bit for McCain.
August 26, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Obama may not be the democrat they had preferred but when it comes to a choice between Obama and Mr. Cindy McCain, they will vote for Obama.
August 26, 2008 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell us again, SFC, how that last-minute Bradley Effect can't POSSIBLY be a racial thing.
Because apparently, he was the Democrat they wanted, up until "buyer's remorse" set in.
So if it isn't racial... what, did the SOB grow two more heads or something? Get fuckin' real, trollski.
August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Bradley Effect is, in theory, a racial thing.
People are allowed to vote based on race as evidenced by the black vote for Obama.
What's your point?
August 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually Dr. Wang has incorporated those numbers via Pollster.com feed into his model and the probablities of an Obama EV win today have INCREASED.
http://election.princeton.edu/wp-content/uploads/autographics/EV_histogram_today.png
August 26, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see you've been taking poll-reading classes from CNN because what the christ seven points isn't a "slim" lead by any standard. At any rate, last month's Quinnipiac polls from these three states:
PA: Obama 49, McCain 42
OH: Obama 46, McCain 44
FL: Obama 46, McCain 44
(Also: the period during which these polls were conducted was 8/17-24, i.e. almost entirely before the Biden announcement, which doesn't tell us a whole lot there.)
August 26, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's "Poll Analysis by Erik."
What do you expect?
August 26, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Tony for the more reality-based analysis.
Just because Quinnipiac is trying to puff up the importance of its poll by cherry-picking comparison data in their analysis doesn't mean you have to run with their interpretation too, Eric.
August 26, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Typical Eric, create a panic and generate a traffic for the cite. Who cares? I am less concern about the polls at this point. I am more concern with voters' registration drive.
August 26, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
then you should be very happy
I posted about Kay hagen below, but I haven't seen anybody mention Mississippi yet, so here goes:
Mississippi must be another one of them swing states, cuz wicker is losing to some guy even I have never heard of ...
so send Ronnie Musgrove some love:
Musgrove for US Senate
921 N. President St. - Suite A
Jackson, MS 39202
I donated to Hagen, guess I'll have to send Musgrove a few bucks now
I senf my money where my mouth is ...
and if I can learn to do the goodle, mcsame must be really mclame
August 26, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Argh! Just as one of the posters blogged here yesterday, the polls are going to change. Looks like panic-mongering.
August 26, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
and he will continue to slip unless he hammers mccain to the ground....
August 26, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
The polls are meaningless. However, i agree, the democrats need to take their convention opportunity to slam McCain.
August 26, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's too late. Who is on the schedule who will pikc up the hammer and pound McCain? Biden might but it has to be relentless and delievred by multiple surrogates.
Warner's not going to do it and Clinton will talk about herself and Obama. Another night wasted. This is the 2004 Convention all over again.
August 26, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
no it isn't. This is way better -- smarter campaign, better candidates, and a way worse opponent.
Having Michelle do the attacking would be horrible -- as the spouse, it is not her job to do a hit job on the opposition. Joe Biden will do that fine, and he will be fun to watch.
August 26, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. The point was to totally take away the notion the Michelle is anything but the American ideal of a woman. Attacking before establishing that would have just reinforced the "angry, radical black woman" meme. Now her future attacks are well-framed as the outrage of a true American that our nation has been betrayed by the radically stupid and selfish who have governed our nation since ... well, Bush II took office really.
Sorry Clinton fans. Innately smart people can still manage to be radically stupid. That's what's radical about it.
August 26, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops. Meant to type "Bush I" but the finger stuttered. Better sense that way, what?
August 26, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right! Oh noez! I guess Obama should go ahead and concede today.
Damn Ted Kennedy and Michelle Obama for not rabidly denouncing McCain last night. They've cost us the election.
/snark
August 26, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
The way Democrats act sometimes, you'd think McCain was winning.
He's not.
August 26, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
The way the media acts, you'd think McCain is winning ... by losing closely.
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August 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
ZOMGGG WHATS WRONG WITH BARACK OBAMA?
August 26, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Qunnipiac, ARG, Research2000, Rasmussen, Mason-Dixon, PPP etc, all say something different. One poll doesn't determine where the election is going.
Eric,
You've become obsessed with the polls.
August 26, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is the same tactics Mark penn used to pump up Hillary during the Primary. At the end, poll failed to win her the nomination
August 26, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Uhm, technically, you're wrong there
we'll take a poll of the voters on November 4th
that poll matters
August 26, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's talk about the poles that matter: The poles Cindy McCain will use while performing an exotic dance for anyone earning more than 10,000 McCain points!
August 26, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Worrywart Party
August 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
What about the "Can't punch proven criminals in the mouth b/c our leaders are worthless saps" party?
Democrats aren't even in this fight right now.
OBAMA IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!! ATTACK!! NO TIME FOR INSPIRATION IN A MF'ing FOXHOLE!!
August 26, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. I did think the last two elections would be a sure thing though . . .
August 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't expect a Biden bounce. Would have happened already and we're not seeing anything in the daily tracking polls. In fact, Rasmussen is back to tied today, which likely means that Obama's numbers on Sunday and Monday kind of stunk. But there should be a convention bounce, maybe even a significant one. For that to happen, Hillary needs to hit it out of the park tonight. (I think Michelle's speech last night probably helped as well, but it was too late to affect today's trackers.) I'm sick of looking at results like this latest Q polls and seeing McCain getting 85-90% GOP support in Florida and Ohio while Obama struggles to hit 80% in Dem support. This is where the GOP is smarter than us - they don't evne like McCain but they know the stakes. For them, it's not about grudges or proving a point or making a statement - it's about winning. If Dem party ID weren't so much higher than the GOP's this year, McCain would have a clear lead in many of these states.
I think the convention will change things pretty quickly. But it does hinge on a couple of folks named Clinton, especially the one speaking tonight.
August 26, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe Biden's effect has been felt yet -- one of the disadvantages (although there were advantages in this instance) of a Saturday roll-out. Many people didn't learn about it, or if they did, think about it until Monday, at which point the convention was underway. I think only the junkies have sat down and really thought about it, figured out if and how his selection will influence their vote. Of if they've thought about it, the focus is on Obama's having chosen a non-Hillary, not on which non-Hillary he chose.
And, to my astonishment, apparently one poll found that 1/3 of registered voters did not know who he was!!!
Let's assess the Biden effect *after* the Clinton-Obama supposed fued gets off the front pages and after he's had his introduction (where needed) on Wednesday night.
As people think more about it - what it says about Obama's own strength; his willingness to surround himself with the best, not necessarily the most-adoring; and his concern for the governance of the country, his ability to actually bring about this change, and the hands the country would be left in if something should happen ........ I think there will be a very considerable Biden effect at the polls in Nov.
August 26, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop freaking over the Polls. Watch the convention on CSPAN. You get to hear all the speakers and entertainment and you don't have to listen to the bad anlysis by the pundits.
August 26, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I had a huge smile on my face last night while watching Ted and Michelle speak and watching the crowd in Denver react. But these damned internet tubes give me easy access to the stupid poll data.
On the bright side of these polls, if you compare them to last month's numbers and exclude Florida (which I never expected to win this year - nor does Obama really need it, unlike McCain who really does), the PA numbers are exactly the same as July, and in Ohio support for both dropped...it's just that Obama lost 2 while McCain lost 1. (and Obama is still ahead) In many of these swing states (and I hesitate to call PA a swing state but everybody else does), what we see from poll to poll are fluctuations in Obama's support. But when these folks move away from Obama, they don't switch to McCain - they move to "undecided". That's why this convention should be huge for Obama. Most of the folks moving back and forth between Obama and undecided are likely Dems and Dem leaners. The convention has the power to solidy their support for Obama between now and November. But, again, Hillary looms....
August 26, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't mean to pick on you, but I think too many shuffle off FL with thoughts like "I never expected to win it, so oh well"...
Barack is close in FL. Personally I think that Obama should campaign hard there. Offshore drilling is opposed, large Jewish swing vote, large latino swing vote. Lots of potential to flip FL despite the fact that the senior crowd and security/Giuliani crowd fall into the McShill camp.
I think Obama performing well in FL will also have a ripple effect on other swing states like OH, VA, MO. And if we win FL, that's the ballgame right there. I think it's a win-win-win to have a strong showing there. Would love to see him appear there 2-3 times, run ads there, use delegates from FL in the media, etc.
August 26, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't get me wrong. I think he should make a strong effort there and I think it's definitely in play. But he doesn't really need it. Kerry states plus Ohio is all it would take. Kerry states plus IA, CO, and NM, would do it as well. Kerry states plus IA and VA is an Obama win also. I think all of these other swing states - including Ohio and VA - are likely easier for Obama to win than FL. That's all I'm saying. If Obama wins FL, he'll likely win this thing running away - it will be icing on the cake.
August 26, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good thoughts og. But the fact that FL is more difficult/complex, might show that he's is challenging the GOP where it hurts. I'd love to see him run hard in Ft. Lauderdale/Boca, Orlando, Jacksonville. Hit it out of the park in the south.
Plus, the North FL market = GA where they've already run ads and put McShill on the defensive.
So, in essence I think we agree. I'm pretty confident about IA and NM, but imho in the end it will be running hard in VA, CO, FL -- and even in conservative districts in those states -- that will win this thing. Ohio too, but I guess it's a given that both candidates will run hard there.
August 26, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Blujig, You misspelled "poundits..."
August 26, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
One pronblem as I see it is that most people don't watch CSPAN, they watch the MSM and they don't cover the convention till 10PM. Stations like CNN and MSNBC do, but they don't show shit. All they do is yak, yak, yak and spout their bullshit.
Anyway, I hope we start the attck tonigh and start making Mr. Cindy McCain feel like he never should have been born.
August 26, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sit here in Ohio. I run a retail business in a Dayton suburb and we service people around the entire area. I have seen the impact of the McCain smear ads on the working class in this area (one of the ten fastest dying cities in the United States) and there has been a shift against Obama with the smear ads. Obama needs to be going far more negative. A lot people who were going to vote for Obama have been shifting because they believe that he has no policy position, will take away their guns and will raise taxes.
For those of you downplaying this - get wise, same trend as we have seen in the last two presidential elections with the Republican bitch slap tactic.
August 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agree JMOHR. It is unfortunate but true.
Frankly I think the only thing that might push prejudice whites in the hustings to vote to put a black family in the White House is fear.
Fear of McSame starting more wars. 'Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran' = more wars and $10 gas might get these folks attention.
August 26, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has TPM endorsed McWar like the media have? It seems like it...
Sad, really!!
August 26, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Eric,
I'm going to hereby issue a directive to you. You may no longer report on polls unless you start reporting directly to Nate Silver's website to be schooled on proper interpretation of said polls:
www.fivethirtyeight.com
You CANNOT, with any credibility, say that Obama is "slipping" in the State polls for these States. You've cited 3 polls, where the results are all w/in the margin of error, and for Pete's sake, he's still ahead in every poll you've cited here. Go, right now, to Nate's site, and look at all of the polls posted for each of these States, and do an update that provides an educated overview of Obama's standing in each of these States. There's such a thing as trending.
This is what you're going to find: In OH and FL, it's too close to call. It's swinging back and forth. Not unexpected at this point. In PA, he's maintaining a fairly steady, but small, lead.
August 26, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is Eric Kleefeld you are talking about. If there's any bad news about Obama or his campaign, he'll concern troll it to the ground.
August 26, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Eric still in contention for uber DLC HACKS for Clinton.....
Nate at 538 must be laughing out loud at your bogus chicken-little headline
August 26, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree with the analysis, Eric.
I think we are just beginning to see Barack's improvement in the polls. I think many Dems including myself were worried about the lack of a strong aggressive message. But Obama and the campaign have clearly gotten the message.
Imho it takes time for that sentiment and the campaign message to find its way down through the corporate media and into the homes of people who aren't following intensely nor commenting on TPM, etc.
I feel much more confident than a week ago. And I believe the polls are just beginning to bear that out.
August 26, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
the poll numbers are not "slipping." the national polls slipped about two weeks ago and have evened out. these polls are just showing old news.
August 26, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Quin polls ARE trending away from Obama since June.
June July Aug
Fl +4 +2 -4 =>Net loss 8
OH +6 +2 +1 =>Net loss 5
PA +12 +7 +7 =>Net loss 5
August 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're comparing a month - June - during which McCain was under the radar and Obama was enjoying a post-primary bounce to a month - August - during which McCain launched his strongest attacks of the season and Obama was on vacation. As I and others have noted, if you compare the August numbers to the July numbers, there is barely any change in Ohio and PA. And if Obama holds all the Kerry states (if Obama wins PA he'll almost certainly win Michigan as well) plus Ohio, it's game over - he wins.
Let's talk again in a month. As I noted, McCain's gotten about as much out of the base as he could. Obama still has room to grow. The Dem convention can bring these "undecided" Dems home. There really aren't that many "undecide" GOPers out there so McCain's convention "bounce" likely won't be that significant, or at least not as significant as Obama's.
Of course, I know you want Obama to lose so it was probably a waste even replying to you. But whatever...
August 26, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
barack obama and his supporters should be ashamed. they strongarmed us into his nomination. we tried to tell them america would never elect a black man and now we will all have to pay for them being so naive. this isn't star trek. this is america. white men at the helm, thank you very much!
August 26, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Then why does Barack Obama have a clear lead in the Electoral College count and in many 2004-era "swing states"? Should we be ashamed of that?
August 26, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I've heard other good Dems echo those same comments, some of whom are very close to me. I know they are not racist and I assume you are not racist. But if we continue to think that "America will never elect a black guy as president", or, "America will never elect a woman as president", then it's always going to be a white guy - and probably a white guy Republican -even if the black candidate or the woman candidate is better qualified and the better choice for the nation.
BTW, those folks I know who think this way? Their preferred candidate during the primaries was John Edwards, at least until he dropped out. Yeah, that would have worked out well...
August 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
You might be from Brooklyn originally, but are you sure you're not currently sitting in a jail cell in Denver?
August 26, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ummmm! I'm telling!!!
You can't use the word bitter!!! (unless you're a GOPer)
August 26, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
you should definitely be ashamed of your unpatriotic desire to disprove our racist values. an apology would help too!
August 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Since this is a polling thread of sorts: CO-04: Markey (D) 50, Musgrave (R-inc) 43.
August 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
And no sooner than I hit "submit" does it appear on the poll tracker. Hurf.
August 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
johm mccain knew what to do with the "gooks". he sure as hell is making mincemeat of mr. elitist.
August 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Racism isn't tolerated here.
Admins... please delete this user's account!
August 26, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
my real name is john king and i work the computer map at cnn when i am not at home smooching my new wife and co worker dana bash...so there! and yeah i am in denver getting paid baby! gotta go file a reprt now!
August 26, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
BTW, latest PPP in NC is showing a 3pt lead for McCain, 45-42. Gap is the same as July. (both lost 2pts each so it's a wash) Still basically a toss-up - great news for Obama. If NC is that close, VA is probably closer.
Even better news from PPP in NC - Hagan now leads Dole, 42-39. Last month it was a 40-40 tie.
August 26, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Erik is a defeatist.
Hope or fear, people. It's your choice.
And no, not just your own personal one. Hope begets hope.
Clinton supporters, Edwards supporters, and all the rest of you out there... if you're tired of the Republicans destruction of America and want a change, just say it! Say it now!
Because I don't know about you, but I want change. This country *needs* to change course now!
August 26, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
PA still looks OK.
FL was always worrisome, although Biden's strong pro-Israel past might help there.
OH is the one that looks problematic. I think Obama needs to double down on the DHL type stuff and bring NAFTA into the mix there.
August 26, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's going to have to campaign hard on his Economic message in all of the Rust Belt states to solidify his position in MI, OH, IN, and even in PA, I think.
August 26, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's all part of the TPM push to get Obama to attack like crazy. Get everyone convinced he's losing and the panic will force Obama to get tough. The only problem is, the campaign has been getting much tougher the last few weeks, they picked a VP who is a champion at skewering Republicans, and Michelle Obama did more good with her speech then a thousand Zell Miller-esque rants ever could. If Hillary does her job tonight, all will be good in the world.
August 26, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please, with the headlines. The changes in these polls are all within the margin of error. Perhaps, the 8-week old polls overstated Obama's real support. Perhaps, something happened in between times towards McCain and now they are going back to Obama. Who knows. What is consistently clear is that Obama looks solid in PA, FL leans McCain and OH is close and has more undecideds. None of that should be a surprise. In OH, McCain gets only 43%, further evidence that there is no great desire to vote McCain. Obama just needs to swing the undecideds his way, which is what conventions and campaigns are about.
August 26, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel the proper way to desensationalize this headline would be to say: "Quinnipiac: Obama's lead drops in OH, FL and PA". Another way would be the reverse: "Quinnipiac: McCain gains in OH, FL and PA".
"Slipping" improperly suggests he is about to lose his lead, and "3 largest swing states" attaches an unwarranted amount of urgency and importance to the poll. "Obama slipping in 3 largest swing states" in itself generalizes the results of the one poll and makes it sound like this is the general state of affairs rather than indicating the singularity of the poll's results, as mentioning the source in the headline immediately suggests.
While sensationalism is a common phenomenon in the mainstream media, TPM sure doesn't have to engage in it.
August 26, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the deal,guys. In September and October, Barack should have more than twice as many dollars to advertise as McCain. Second, his superior ground game should see to it that the millions of new voters he registered go to the polls on November 3rd. And finally, I'm expecting Barack and Biden to dominate the debates. Final electoral count should see O'Biden getting 300-plus electoral votes. Now, knock on wood and get back to work.
August 26, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
here is the deal. the corporations decide. they own the media. if they choose to push and pull mccain to victory...they certainly can. the question is will they see their own longterm interest or their shorterm impulse gratification. if they force mccain on the country, america's all important image will suffer another huge blow but they can continue to rape the country for another four years. we await their decision and august was not a good sign as to what they are going to do. neither is past history.
August 26, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
These polls are shit. Election day will reveal the millions without landlines and the millions who have only recently voted. Most people with landlines are over thirty five and this gives me encouragement because if Obama is even with this crowd and 20-30 points ahead in the below thrity five, he will destroy McCain by 6-8% in the popular vote and crush him in one of the largest electoral votes in the last one hundred plus years. Why is everyone stressing. Even Plouffe said the polls are meaingless.
August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
"crush him in one of the largest electoral votes in the last one hundred plus years."
Shades of Bob Dole!
I tend to agree. Too many new voters that the poundits do not have access to in their polling and prognosticating, and those new voters are 9-1 in favor of Democrats.
August 26, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have an apartment that I rent, and I don't think there has been a land line in there for the past three tenants, which is about six years. If it's true that polls do not call cell phones, I think that in this election cycle that could make a big difference. I also think a good portion of those people are young Obama voters. Think of the difference in the demographic that is represented by people who predominantly or solely use a landline and those that have no landlines, or like myself, aren't that quick to answer them because anybody who's anybody is probably on my cell.
August 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's tight in North Carolina. McCain has absolutely no ground game there. Obama could definitely win there.
August 26, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
is North Carolina a swing state ???
cuz it's in PLAY, jack
liddy dole is in serious fucking trouble
atrios has the link
liddy is polling at 39% and losing to a Democrat most of you have never heard of
so send Kay Hagen some love, and a few bucks if you go it to spare ...
Kay Hagan for US Senate
P.O. Box 29103
Greensboro, NC 27429-9103
August 26, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
PA is "historically close"?
2004: Kerry 51, Bush 49
2000: Gore 51, Bush 46
1996: Clinton 49, Dole 40
1992: Clinton 45, Bush 36
Average: Dem 49, Rep: 42.75
Over 6 points on average. Hardly "historically close"
August 26, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is slipping in the polls because he is an empty suit. Without speech writers and teleprompters he would not even have his eloquent speeches going for him. He should never have been the nominee and now he is free falling. A lot of political analysts are emphaticallly stating that his not chosing Hillary as his running mate will be a huge political blunder that will be remembered for years to come. He will not win now and I am glad. He is also avoiding debating McCain because he knows he does not perform well on a one to one basis without the speech written by someone else and the teleprompters. If not Hillary, Let it rain McCain. I can't wait until I no longer have to see him or his bulldog wife that is so full of hatred on my television!
August 27, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink