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Poll: Obama Leading In Deep-Red Alaska!

Now this is something: A new poll of Alaska from local firm Hays Research has Barack Obama ahead in this deep-red state -- a place that has voted Dem only once, in the LBJ landslide of 1964.

The numbers: Obama 45%, McCain 40%, with a ±4.9% margin of error. Other recent polls from Rasmussen and Research 2000 have given McCain the lead here, so this poll might be an outlier.

On the other hand it's only the seond poll that we've seen from a respected local firm -- a poll conducted in July by Ivan Moore gave McCain a bare three-point lead -- so it might be an early sign that John McCain will have to work hard to hold on to a state that most Republicans can count on winning easily.

In that spirit, the Obama camp also announced today that they picked up the endorsement of Jim Whitaker, the Republican mayor of Fairbanks.


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I was waiting for a poll giving Obama the lead in Alaska. I'm glad it finally came. Time for McCain to waste his money and resources over there!

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Seriously, would it be worth a stop-over on the way back from Hawaii? You have to think that one big rally in Anchorage would pay huge dividends in the fall.

More on this here:

http://strategy08.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/get-thee-to-alaska/

Supposedly he is heading to Alaska. That will leave Arkansas as the only State Obama hasn't personally visited since January.

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Obama did say that he was going to be doing a campaign stop in Alaska in the Fall.

I hope that he does!!!

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He should go soon - on the way back from Hawaii would be best. Many Alaskan 'residents' don't winter there. The peak is now while the long days (and tourists) of summer are still around. When the tourists leave, so do many of the locals.

Guess there is a downside to being so drill-happy, after all.

It took them a while to realize Republicans are crooks!

OMG, why doesn't he hit back??? why?? Harder, harder!!!! Kerry!!! Carter!!!! Dukakis!!!!

We desperately need those 527s after that Britney ad!

You forgot:

Gore!
Mondale!
McGovern!
Humphrey!
Stevenson!
Smith!
Davis!
Cox!
Bryan!

Gore actually won that election.

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If the other team wins by cheating, you've still lost.

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Well Alaskans (I was born and raised there) are pretty pissed at the GOP right now. Especially fishermen who just got screwed by the Supreme Court (exxon valdez.)

If there is any place the Dems should be focusing their Exxon/McCain ads it is Alaska.

Any one of these red states we flip is a huge bonus that gives us extra margin in case we lose CO or NM. This is great news.

ty sen. ted stevens

This is a good news for McCain, at least, he can spend his resources in the state. Obama should stop over in Alaska on his way from Hawaii

Obama'08

i wonder if david gregory will note this poll.....

THIS IS HUGE!

Obama has to go there after he finishes his vacation.

It's time to seize the opportunity.

Sounds like a partisan poll, as it was done for a Union group.

Insider Advantage has released a poll showing McCain ahead by 4% in Florida.

Excuses, excuses...

Insider Advantage is a Republican firm, closely identified with the Newt Gingrich wing of the party.

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Florida is going to be difficult. Obama didn't get to campaign there which puts him at a disadvantage and McCain actually did.

Perhaps, but Obama has spent $6 million in ads in Florida.

McCain has yet to air ads.

But the GOP/McCain has 35 field offices (Obama, 25) in FL, so it's not like McCain is spending nothing there.

I think post-conventions, McCain will spend on advertising in FL if only not to risk losing the Sunshine State.

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That doesn't necessarily mean Obama isn't outspending him. Maybe McCain's more into real estate and Obama human capital (I certainly hope so).


Florida is a must-win for McCain, not for us. The point of spending money in Florida is to force McCain to spend money there. McCain doesn't do field offices, which means if he has them there he's scared shitless. McCain has zero in North Carolina, another must-win state for him that's essentially tied, vs. about a jillion for Obama.

Every dime Obama forces McCain to spend holding Florida is a dime McCain can't spend in Ohio or trying to flip Michigan. But winning it is a bonus for us, not a necessity.

Just a point of geography. Its not like Alaska is really "on the way" back from Hawaii. It would make just as much sense to head up as part of a Montana, Oregon, Washington swing. For you easterners, Alaska is waaaaaay the hell up there and not easy to get to from anywhere.

Exactly. It's 2,785 miles from Honolulu to Anchorage and around 2300 from Seattle. No picnic either way, but it makes more sense to go some time soon after (or during?) the GOP convention as a part of a Montana (w/VP Schweitzer, ideally), Washington, and Oregon swing.

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But it is in the same time zone

More than distance, that's the reason it makes it easier to schedule on the way back from Hawaii -- fly up overnight from Hawaii, do a daytime event or two in Alaska, and be in Seattle or Portland in time for an evening event and fundraiser ...

Hawaii is ahead of Alaska by an hour. Alaska is 4 hours behind the East Coast - Hawaii is 5 hours behind.

I think I meant behind. Hawaii is behind Alaska - I think I caught jet lag thinking too hard on it.

On a side note: I was pretty stunned this week that Hawaii was considered 'not American' with regards to Obama's background - considering it was American enough to trigger our involvement in WWII, that's a stupid insinuation.

Next they'll be saying Alaska is really Russian/Canadian.

There are many nail-biter photo finishes where having a single 3-EV state puts Obama over the top.

3-EV states in play: Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana

4-EV state in danger of being in play: New Hampshire

5-EV states in play: New Mexico, Nevada

There are a few others too- Montana (w/Schweitzer), and possibly North Dakota have an outside shot of swinging. They're not in play of course, but they could be.

I'm in Alaska, all my in-laws are in Montana - all of us are pro-Obama.

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What local issues do people talk about when comparing the candidates?

ANWR, proposed Natural Gas Pipeline, Federal Infrastructure Spending, (and all the jobs any of these issues create/keep in Alaska). Also - 'outside' interests meddling in Alaskan affairs - corruption specifically related to vote selling, (of which Ted Stevens is not accused of).

Exxon just had an oil lease yanked by our Republican Governor - (i.e. use it or lose it). The influence Exxon has been yielding in all things Alaska Oil & Gas is making a lot of people really angry.

We aren't too into the offshore drilling thing - our experience is that big oil companies purposefully don't drill/explore in an effort to drive up prices.

Also - our gas prices are still hovering at the $4.50 a gallon mark ($5.50 for diesel) and our Republican Governor launched an investigation over the weekend regarding price gouging (considering our oil is refined locally).

By the way - I'm a republican, just not the Bush kind (i.e. wolf in sheep's clothing). I'm not into legislating morality which makes me open to Democratic candidates like Obama. I'd color myself somewhere between Ron Paul and Chuck Hagel - I think our tax system is rigged, its immoral that regular people aren't allowed to 'profit' from their labor/wages, (i.e. they pay taxes BEFORE expenses, not after).

Obama's call for an infrastructure bank has been hitting all the right notes in Alaska. The rest of the country calls it pork - we call it infrastructure and services we deserve. My income for the past 7 years has come from these so-called pork. We've been proud to be a part of upgrading Military housing and building roads and associated infrastructure that Alaska desperately needs.

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Thanks for spelling that out for me; best of luck.

Regular roundtrip non-stop flights to/from Honolulu/Anchorage - it's our preferred vacation destination - 5.5 hour flight. But, there was a volcanic eruption that cancelled dozens of flights in/out of Alaska this past week.

My kids keep asking if we can see Obama speak - I've gotten emails about a rally in Downtown Anchorage coming up for the opening of the Obama 08 office there Aug 13th - what a surprise if he showed up.

P.S. I've been on the lookout and have yet to see a single McCain campaign ad/bumpersticker/sign anywhere here in the greater Anchorage area, (pretty odd for this red state).

My prediction is Ted holds on, but Obama takes Alaska. Purely amateur prediction mind you.

My sister is in Kodiak right now and helping out with the campaign (not working for it, just in her spare time). She's been talking with some of the AK for Obama people, and apparently Obama HQ wants some sort of assurance that they'd get at least 20k for a rally in Anchorage if he came, even on 24 hours notice.

From the limited amount I know about AK politics, this wouldn't be a problem at all, but it seems like more of an intuitive thing, but if/when anyone can show that to them, what is now a possibility would happen (him going there).

I remember my dad going to see Reagan and John Paul II in the 80's - I'm pretty sure the turnout was huge.

If the State Fair in Palmer (August 21) can garner 30k a day on weekends - I'm pretty sure Obama could get a nice turnout too. Parking will be a bitch.

This is wonderful!
Ironically, I had read that when Alaska and Hawaii were admitted to the union, the thinking was that Alaska would be Democratic and Hawaii would be Republican, and it's been just the opposite.

Obama is blanketing Florida with ads (1000+) and can't really make any gains, whereas McCain has aired exactly zero ads in FLA.

I hope as the election draws nearer, Obama drops the 50 state strategy, because McCain isn't biting, and instead focusing on the real toss-up states. I mean rather than wasting three days to go to Alaska, I think spending those three days in Ohio and Michigan would be much better use. We're under 90 days here, every visit counts.

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Florida is tough, but the fact is that it remains close -- a strong ground game there can keep it closer than the polls say, party latest party reg figures showed a big Democratic gain, and while I think in the end McCain will probably win it there, it is very much worth playing hard there unless/until McCain opens up a huge lead. (Makes me wish Bob Graham were a reasonable VP choice).

As for dropping the 50 state strategy, absolutely not!

Yes Ohio and Michigan and PA are absolutely important, and they deserve and will get ample campaign attention...

But for too long Democrats have gone into November with the only chance of winning being concentrating all of their resources in a handful of states that add up to 271, and there was absolutely no margin for error... We see where that got us.

As Obama often reminded audiences during the primary by citing the Einstein quote - "I've often heard it said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results". If Democrats run the same campaign on the same electoral map every year, reducing the entire contest to winning Ohio, then we can't be surprised if we loose again.

Now reliable state polls show that Obama is highly competitive in AK, CO, IN, MO, MT, NV, NC, ND, VA -- and a few others that could come into play (GA, MS, SD).

These are the new swing states (along with the previous swing prizes of FL, MI, NH, NM, OH, PA) and a number of previous swing states may be moving out of reach of McCain but should not be ignored (IA, MN, OR, WA, WI).

Look at this list, and it is suddenly clear that it is McCain who faces the need to thread the needle perfectly in order to win... by keeping so many states in play, it allows Obama to have many potential paths to victory, and McCain very few.

I don't expect Obama to win most or many of these previous red states suddenly in play - he doesn't need to. Some of them will no longer be competitive as we reach mid-September and beyond. But the mere fact that they are in play changes the game entirely -- it isn't about McCain taking some imaginary bait, it is about breaking out of an electoral map that says the only way for a Democrat to win is to take all of the Gore/Kerry states + Ohio or Florida.

I'm not advocating that Obama spend an October weekend in Salt Lake City or Tulsa -- but as long as the polls shows a chance in any of the traditionally Republican states, and as long as there are sufficient campaign resources in place, Obama and the Democrats should contest everywhere we can.

A 50 state strategy doesn't mean buying up all of the evening prime time in every market in Texas -- but it does mean maintaining a strong party campaign everywhere, going in more intensely when openings allow us to do that, and maximizing Democratic votes up and down the ticket everywhere - so that even in a state Obama isn't carrying, the Presidential ticket isn't a drag to Senate, House, state and local candidates on the ballot.

As for "wasting three days to go to Alaska" - I don't believe that is the choice - this isn't 1960 with Nixon chasing around at the last minute to make good on some promise to campaign everywhere -- with fast planes and good planning, Obama (who I am told actually can sleep on a plane) can do a one day trip to Alaska and not loose campaign time elsewhere -- the advantage of a stop on the way back from Hawaii isn't simply distance, but more time zone congruence, allowing it to fit more easily into the schedule -- but it would work almost equally well attached to the beginning or end of a campaign swing to Washington, Oregon, Montana.

A campaign that operates on a different stage and strategy that our last few losing campaigns seems like a good option to me.

At the same time, FL is the only state where McCain/GOP leads Obama in field offices, 35-25. It's not like McCain is spending zilch there as compared to, say, NC or IN, where McCain hasn't spent a dime on ads or field offices, although he has visited both states.

Jeez, at least give him until after the convention before demanding he declare Florida lost, willya?

Hey people, the difference in this poll is well within the margin of error (which you'll remember in this case means 4.9 percent EITHER WAY). Don't get too excited, it's a statistical dead heat.

Yeah, also remember that many of the polls do not include people not on land line phones and first time voters. obama leads in these categories.

As the summer moves into fall, we will see where the chips fall.

This poll is a red flag to the GOP on how Alaska feels about GW Bush and the Ted Stevens camp. Obama should visit the state and campaign with the senate candidate for a few days.

I don't lump Ted Stevens and G.W. into the same GOP category. Most Alaskans don't lump them into the same category.

The National GOP platform is not in line with Alaska's aspirations.

G.W. had a republican majority for nearly a decade and made no serious attempt to open ANWR - Alaskans by and large are very pissed about this. Yet he's pro-offshore drilling which is a mighty sensitive topic here in Alaska (we really really love our salmon, and we're still stung by the Valdez oilspill).

Drilling in the ocean is far riskier than drilling on a frozen tundra, (oil spilled onto frozen ground/snow is easily scooped up and removed, not so much when a spill occurs offshore).

We're a pro-Union, pro-Oil state, the RNC has a schizophrenic platform that includes drilling for oil but busting all the unions that actually supply the labor that drills for oil. McCain is a leading union-buster.

All the pork barrel projects that Ted has funded for Alaska were union/bacon scale projects that included building highways, water and sewer projects and military base upgrades not limited to base housing that replaced residents previously built sometime in the 50's with asbestos and various other substandard conditions.

Twas Don Young that wanted bridges to nowhere (he was the chairman of the Transportation committee after all). No one in Alaska seriously wanted these bridges, we were as surprised as everyone else that they were funded.

McCain is anti-ANWR, every Republican and Democrat in Alaska that wants to stay in office is pro-ANWR.

This ALONE will keep McCain from getting many red-votes.

P.S. Union jobs and private scale jobs pay very nearly the same wage here in Alaska - with comparable benefit packages. It's commonplace for skilled workers to move back and forth between private and union scale jobs based on the scope and location of the project. Our so-called high unemployment rate has to do with the limited construction season - most of us seasonal construction types manage our finances in a way that allows us to not work during the winter months - I make double payments on my mortgage in the summer so I don't have to worry about them in the winter.

This Alaska Poll is no outlier. Several polls have shown McShame barley within the margin of error in Alaska. Back in June and July, 2 local Alaska polls had Barack Obama in the lead, but within the -/+4% margin of error. The Obama campaign has an elaborate voter registration effort in Alaska.

This is a worthless poll by a Democratic-affiliated pollster of adults -- not even limited to registered voters. You might as well poll polar bears.

A tiresome spin to debunk every poll that shows Obama ahead.

A little proof besides bullshit assertions would be a lot more convincing, don't ya think?

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McInsane NEEDS to not even carry Arizona. I know it is a dream . . . but . . . it is a good one . . . filled with happpiness and joy.

My brother and his family live outside of Anchorage and have been there for years. He is a life-long military guy -- currently in charge of something for the VA up there (so you can imagine were he comes down on Bush et al). I was amazed to find out that they were pro Obama. Tomorrow is his birthday and I will probably talk to him --I'll have to ask him what's going on up there!

Obama should time his visit to the State Fair in Palmer, Alaska. that would maximize the number of potential voters who can see and hear him. that would be a huge story and would guarantee national coverage, as Alaska has been reliably a GOP stronghold. it seems not any more. at least not this election cycle. and he should visit Fairbanks, if possible, to bolster the support from the GOP mayor who recently endorsed him. it's a sure win-win for Dems, no matter what happens in Nov.

Fl is almost like MO except reversed. McCain is working the ground game HARD while Obama is making up for lost time working the air. I don't see Obama winning the state but who knows.

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My understanding that Obama's ground game is superior to McCain's in Florida as well.

New Poll showing Obama down 4 in NC. This is LITERALLY how it has been, 3 to 4 points, in ALL the NC polls conducted since Obama clinched the nomination. I don't know if turnout can change things but it just looks like NC will be a close loss for Obama.

No the GOP apparatus in Florida isn't matched by the Obama campaign at the moment.

Flashback: Obama up in Arizona!

Remember that Zogby outlier a months ago?

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/zogby_obama_up_in_texas_close.php
TPM loves outliers.

Could this have something to do with the Ted Steven's problems? The GOP has a bad brand up there right now.

I think it has to do with McCain being one of a handful of Republicans to consistently vote against opening ANWR.

Also, McCain is a big time union-buster, and we're by and large a union state.

Alaska doesn't get mentioned much in national politics and when it does get mentioned by McCain its all negative - he's blaming the corruption on the PEOPLE of Alaska who were victimized by it, (i.e. the selling of votes by state legislators with regards to tax rates on oil production, sold for a pittance too).

The voters of Alaska cleaned house on the good ole boy network of GOP'ers here, there's a new team in charge now.

I always like to remind people that McCain was a member of the Keating 5, i.e. heavy deregulation in the banking sector which led to heavy losses - I'm not sure he's the guy we want making decisions on yet another round of shitty financial ideas stemming from deregulation.

As a republican I don't need to agree with any president on everything - I like to prioritize - every other issue can't matter much when our economy is shit. Universal healthcare and renewable energy is a luxury we don't seem able to afford right now.

Personally, I'm really pissed that the dollar has declined so much that it's unlikely I'll ever be able to afford even a modest trip to Europe.

How much you wanna bet that Bush & Co. exchanged their money for Euros (or the British pound) long before things started going south?

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I just looked at the Obama website and counted 30 offices in Florida, not the 25 noted in the comments above. Also, I know from experience in PA, our local office has been in operation since late June--and despite having a Fellow and then a paid staffer--we still aren't recognized as an official office. (A couple of glitches which should be rectified soon... I know McCain could likewise have some "actual but unofficial offices", but if anything the Obama offices are undercounted.)

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Hey, I just went on the John McCain website and counted 27 offices in Florida. So, if you go by campaign websites, it's 30-27 for Obama, not 35-25 for McCain as some have noted above.

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I know this is kinda dumb to keep posting this in an Alaska thread, but I wanted to compare McCain's Pennsylvania offices to Obama's given the trumpeting here of McCain's ground game in Florida. Anyway, click on Pennsylvania, and the listing is for the Pennsylvania and Ohio Regional office. "Regional headquarters" for PA in Columbus, OH. "Local office" in Harrisburg, PA.

WTF? I know AK, ND, and VA are the new, sexy swing states. But aren't you at least going to try in Ohio and Pa? (Or, perhaps John McCain himself is now updating the website and it's taking him some time, what with logging on and all.)

Local Alaska news story on the local feelings about Stevens. I happen to think Stevens will survive the trial politically.

No evidence that any favors he received (however inappropriate) influenced his votes, as opposed to other Alaskan politicians indicted and/or convicted. State legislators sold their votes on tax rates of oil which cost the State billions in revenue, (most sold their votes for a few thousand dollars and post-legislator job offers).

BTW the house he had remodeled in Girdwood is still on the very low-end spectrum of home values for Girdwood. I think that house is valued at around $400k, and the average for that very tiny town is probably $800k to $1 million. Most Alaskans look at that house and think 'gee it kind of looks like mine and I'm not living in the lap of luxury'. Just a thought though.

oops, i'm terrible with the links.

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8830285

Real Clear Politics has still not posted this yet.

Surprised?

any bets that it would have been posted hours ago if McBush were ahead?

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How can these two candidates be neck and neck nationally when one of them is insane and the other one is competent, intelligent and handsome?

from a perplexed Canadian


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Because the media gins up the negatives of the competent candidate in order to drive up ratings for "a close race".

from a perplexed American

The guy running Obama's Alaska operation, Chris Farrell, ran the northeast Indiana primary campaign. He's really, really good - and won the IN-3 congressional district which is very blue collar and not the most racially diverse place ever. Allen County which is the main population center went for Obama 55-45, which was a 6-point swing over the rest of the state.

Chris had worked Alaska during their primary as well, and at least it's not quite as cold as it was last winter.

If anyone can capitalize on all the trends discussed by previous commenters, it's Chris.

I really can't say whether the 50 state promise is a good thing a not. But I can say it impressed me since a candidate for president is supposed to represent all the states, not just the ones needed to win. I have always been disapointed that the people have not insisted on a more inclusive campaign.

I understand if he has to drop it. He should not be penalized for trying to do the right thing. But I love the idea and the fact he is making an attemp!

Calm Down. First Nader had 2 percent with zero publicity when the poll was taken. A week later he submitted almost 6,000 signatures to the division of elections. Others had two percent (including Barr) and ten percent were undecided. Nader will campaign in Alaska. Obama may or may not. The poll has an
error margin of 4.9 percent. Plenty of people do not meet the IBEW pollster's criteria. People don't know how much Exxon employee money goes to Obama opensecrets.org. Obama's recent position against privacy will rankle. So will his support for Federal offshore drilling that does not help Alaska. Where does he stand on ANWR? Or on the initiative to stop the Pebble mine? The genius from Indiana has his work cut out for him.

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