mcThuseleh probably already knew this, hence last week's desperation.

After seeing the Troll Traffic on Eric's last thread (Morning Roundup), I wonder how they will try to spin this one.

I don't even remember McCain making a "bitter" comment!

Conducted in mid-July?

Greg:
This poll is old - taken from June 18 to July 7. During this period, Obama was leading by 5-6% on many days of the Gallup tracking poll.

I wonder what a similar poll would say today... The closest I can think of is the Gallup aggregates by education among whites, which appears to contradict these findings:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108046/Candidate-Support-Education-Among-Whites.aspx

Okay, I hate to pee on the picnic, but the group measured in the Kaiser poll is the working poor, not the working class. The working class is generally defined as people with no education past high school. If income is used, the cut-off is usually 50 k. Whites in this group went overwhelmingly to Hillary and the last poll I saw that checked for this found that McCain was winning whites in this group by 17 percent.

While I'll grant that these categories are arbitrary, the working poor has long leaned Democrats. It's the white working class that leans heavily Republican. Believe me, if Obama were leading by 10 among what every pollster and every social scientist understands to be the white working class, he'd be up nationally by 15.

I understand liberal bloggers seizing on this poll, but it's nothing more than spin.

Hey, I hope Obama wins. And I hope he leads by 10 points among working class whites. But saying one month-old poll "demolishes" anything is just stupid. Don't you people know how silly you look when every favorable poll is treated as gospel, and every unfavorable poll is rationalized away? Do you really thinnk elections are won by wishful thinking?

I shouldn't be surprised, though. A lot of you are the same idiiots who think the best strategy for electing a black president is to call anyone who campaigns against him a racist. Yeah, that'll get people on your side.

About time responsible organization like Kaiser and Harvard put their money where their mouth is. Perhaps, this kind of polling will shut the media talking heads up.

Too much spin on TV only makes an average voter confused. I am sick and tired of 21st century journalist spin something that is not true.

From this post: "it turns out that Obama's advantage is partly driven by the fact that he's better on an issue of importance to these voters: Health care. Seven in ten working class whites polled say government should focus on getting people like them health insurance they can afford, a key Obama position."

But from the blurb from poll on the front page: "Democratic Sen. Barack Obama holds a 2 to 1 edge over Republican Sen. John McCain among the nation's low-wage workers, [b]but many are unconvinced that either presidential candidate would be better than the other at fixing the ailing economy or improving the health-care system[/b], according to a new national poll."

I don't see how you can make this post claiming it's about health care without addressing that quote.

"There is nothing to worry about, go to your homes, the Wizard has everything under control,"

Old poll not worth talking about.
Mccain is in the lead to stay now unless the Superdelagates dump Oilbama for Hillary.

Please let it be true.

Before getting too excited about these results, it is useful to note that the vote question came after thirty-five other questions that essentially asked respondents to ponder how crappy things are in the country as a whole and in their own personal economic lives. In other words, you really have to consider that responses to the vote question were heavily influenced by the placement of the question in the middle of the survey, following dozens of questions about economic conditions. If the vote question had come after dozens of questions about terrorism and foreign policy, my guess is that McCain would lead significantly among this group.

I'm going with the one I like.

I'm highly confused. If Obama is leading with women, with white working classers, with blacks, with latinos - how are the polls so even? Add up all those people, its nearly the whole country. All that's not being counted is white elderly people, asians, and the rich. What is the major discrepancy which explains how this can be the situation?