Poll: Lieberman As Veep Hurts McCain -- In Florida!
Anyone wondering how Joe Lieberman would impact John McCain's chances among Jewish voters could do worse than looking at this new Mason-Dixon poll in the state -- it finds that twice as many voters are less likely to support McCain with Lieberman as Veep.
Twenty-seven percent of voters in Florida, where there's a large concentration of Jewish voters, say they're less likely to back McCain with Lieberman on the ticket. Half that -- 14% -- say they're more likely. Fifty-six percent say Lieberman's presence would make no difference.
Polls have shown that Lieberman on the ticket would even hurt McCain in his home state of Connecticut. If Lieberman hurts McCain in Connecticut and Florida, where the heck would Lieberman help him?















Picking Joe Lieberman would be EXCELLENT NEWS!!!! for McCAIN!!!!
August 28, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
LIEBEMENTUM!
August 28, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Lieberman pic would help Lieberman, and the neocon pundits, but more importantly, it would really help Obama and the Democrats! Go Joemomentum!
August 28, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Time for you to put the Imperius curse on McCain and make him do it.
August 28, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shhhhhh....keep this shit quiet until he makes the announcement.
August 28, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Lieberman pick would be terrible news for the Democratic Party, and might end Barack Obama's hopes of being President. Gosh, I hope they don't pick Lieberman.
(Pssst...you think they bought it?)
August 28, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did you see that new poll by, uh, Zogby that says if McCain picks Liebermann it'll give him a 10pt lead in, uh, New York. Ya know, New York has a lot of Jews. And Jews love Lieberman. Because he's Jewish.
August 28, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
When Joe was a Democrat, he was an observant Jew . . . Now that he is a Party of ONE, he has the flavor of a Rapturian.
August 28, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Greg---keep this on the downlow ;-)
August 28, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
That was exactly what I was going to post.
August 28, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
He could probably ensure Isreal's electoral votes.
August 28, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, yeah, I think his billing on the senate website is: Joseph Lieberman (Likud) CT
August 28, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
At the gates of hell while he's chasing bin laden. He and traitor joe would be at the front of the admission line and welcomed with open arms.
August 28, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've read in other places that McCain has a fondness for noble but losing causes. If McCain gets it into his head that picking Lieberman is the right, albeit dangerous, thing to do, it might motivate McCain even more to pick him.
August 28, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
LIEberman would help McHouse wipe his ass after he took his morning crap, which would also depend on if he drank enough metamucile the night before. I hope they pick LIEberman to see him LOSE again would be GREAT!
August 28, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Down goes Droopy Dog!
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August 28, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's hilarious! I've been saying for some time that I thought that J.Lie looks/sounds like Droopy Dog!
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August 28, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
As much as I'd love this pick, it's a fantasy. It won't happen. It's been leaked to the press to make conservatives feel better when Romney, Pawlenty, Portman, or Cantor is picked.
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August 28, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if it was McCain's people who commissioned that poll in the first place.
August 28, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Picking Lieberman would make for an interesting convention. Hurricane Gustav, 15,000 Ron Paul supporters, and a socially liberal Senator as McCain's running mate. Please, dear Jeebus, pick Lieberman.
August 28, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Prediction: the Ron Paul counter-convention is going to be better-attended than the actual convention, but will get precisely zero press coverage. Unless the blimp is somehow involved.
August 28, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not so sure about the non-press coverage of Ron Paul convention. Never underestimate the power of a bored newscrew looking for something to point their camera at and to pontificate about.
August 28, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The blimp - you mean Rushbo will be a speaker?
August 28, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, I'm talking about an actual blimp.
August 28, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, no! Not Droopy Dog! Barack can't overcome the Joementum!
August 28, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
And this is why we haven't really had a "unity" ticket since 1864. A pro-choice, pro-environmental-regulation, pro-gay-rights, pro-gun-control VP pick would be rather poorly received by pretty much every part of the Republican base.
August 28, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Picking Joe Lieberman as VP would help McCain enormously with the "blowhard pundits named David" demographic.
August 28, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
If he picks Pawlenty, it sounds bad. McCain/Pawlenty '08? Too many syllables, and the names are lame. Obama/Biden has a sort of ring to it.
Pawlenty is mind bogglingly boring.
August 28, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
BTW, where does the idea that Jews love Holy Joe come from? I'm Jewish, and I freaking hate that guy.
August 28, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto.
August 28, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
JoeMentum's wife and kids like him, and they're Jewish?
August 28, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, nope, rumor has it they hate him, too.
And I've heard the family dog growls at him routinely.
August 28, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Proof? I need evidence that his wife and kids like him . . . Halachically, the kids are required to honor and respect him . . . But like is not required.
August 28, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto ditto
August 28, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ditto.
August 28, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Romney will be the VP. that is obvious.
also this poll should be no surprise.. if someone picks someone of my ethnic background who doesn't share my views on a major issue like foreign policy then i damn sure wont vote for them.
Ken Blackwell and Mike Steele learned that lesson in 2006 when they failed to win much black support.
August 28, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
McInsane/Mittens '08
Two gazillionarie gadflies out on the road . . . Doing manly-man things dudes . . . Mocking them poor blue-collar elitists. YEP! A modern day Tippecone and Tyler, Too.
Yep, McInsane and Mittens are just plain folk. Not like them two READERS. I bet that both Obama and Biden have read at least one book for each and every year of their lives.
Romeny is the realistic choice. Can you spell "Self-financing". BUT Mittens has all the earmarks of wanting a political career in the future, so he may tell Senator Wackadoo to take a hike.
My personal favorite pick would be Rude-EE Gooliani. Mister noun, verb 9/11 meet Mister noun, verb because I was a P.O.W.
Only
August 28, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
No chance for Lieberman getting picked. Zero. I don't think it's Romney either.
Lieberman wouldn't help at all - I think most Democrats like their ticket, and I think at best they'd split the independent vote which wouldn't make up for the base and evangelicals abandoning him.
Portman has real economic experience, but he is reportedly Bush's pick for VP, and worked in the Bush White House. He is virtually unknown outside of his district in Ohio. Pawlenty has a slightly higher profile since he has been doing the surrogate circuit, but has no international experience and many GOP fear his debate with Biden.
Romney is tough because of his money and how he came into it. Also Huckabee is already speaking out against him, which mean evangelicals will be leery.
Huck would be interesting, however he has said some pretty outlandish things AND the GOP Business base would be turned off by the ticket.
My Pick - Tom Ridge. He's pro-choice but will pledge to follow the Republican platform. He's probably the best candidate to debate Biden because his national security chops will hold up.
August 28, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fixed.
August 28, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ridge was also a Representative in the house and a Governor of a swing state. I've felt for awhile this is the pick McCain wants to do but the strategists have been telling him no no no. But if McCain thinks his biggest problem is being associated to closely with the Republican Party at the convention he may go for and take Tom.
August 28, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bring it on!
Our Joe can whup your Joe!
August 28, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
August 28, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the continued floating of Lieberman is to get people so against the possibility that when he names Ridge there will be a sigh of relief and his pro-choice stance will be an afterthought.
I think Romney is being used as a decoy. No way the GOP puts him forward given the Obama/Biden populous message.
Ridge is a decorated Vietnam Vet, and Powell wanted him to be Bush's SecDef in 2000.
If he isn't picked I'll eat a bug. The GOP are no dummies - this guy is perfect save his pro-choice beliefs, and he already indicated he'd pledge to uphold the party platform. He's Roman Catholic and 63 years old. He'd pass the CIC test.
Book it - Obama/Biden vs McCain/Ridge
August 28, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
nobody wants joezoe tortureman ???
I wonder why ???
apparently the repuglitards don't love that slimy snake fucker any more than the Democrats do
four years of "Joezoe Tortureman, PARTY OF ONE" is just what that piece of shit deserves
maybe the repuglitards will give you a minority chairman seat, joezoe, but I wouldn't bet on it
lay down with the dogs and you get fleas, and some times the dog bites you too
August 28, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gee, do you suppose some Floridians remember the way Joe sold them out in 2000 (when he said illegal votes from the military should be counted)?
August 28, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let me explain something about us Jews.
We can be a little tribal. But we're not stupid.
Joe Lieberman happens to be very unpopular amongst Jews.
August 28, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
In Hell.
August 28, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some fundamental truths about Jewish voters IMHO:
1) American Jews are not a monolithic voting block.
2) However, American Jews are more likely to be liberal and to be Democrats than the rest of the population. For most of these voters, a candidate's ideology and party trump his or her religion.
3) For most American Jews, Israel is not the most important election issue. Health care, the economy, the Iraq war, the environment, civil and human rights, and other issues are of equal or greater concern.
4) For those American Jews who do look at Israel policy first, that does not automatically translate into a vote for the Likudnik/Lieberman point of view. Many of us believe Israel would become more secure on a long-term basis if it moved away from the often-counterproductive, hard line Likud policies the likes of Lieberman blindly back.
5) Among the majority of American Jews who belong to conservative or reform synagogues, or who are not particularly religious, many of us view Orthodox Jews -- of whom Lieberman is one -- with skepticism and suspicion. This is not unlike the way many Christians view fundamentalists.
These and other reasons explain why Lieberman would hurt, rather than help, McCain in Florida and elsewhere.
And I hope that when people rightfully bash Lieberman they will focus on the fact that he is a pompous, reactionary, hypocritical asshole, rather than his religion.
August 28, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you.
August 28, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink