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Obama Took Heat Early On For Being Too Soft On Hillary, Remember?

Today's Washington Post front-pages a piece featuring assorted D.C. Dems wringing their hands about Obama and saying that he's not hitting back hard enough against McCain's attacks.

But it's worth recalling that late last year, in the run-up to the primaries, many of Obama's supporters were making similar noises and saying that Obama had to hit Hillary harder. Here's vid of Obama in October of 2007, promising to get tougher with her:

The Obama camp, of course, did start drawing a sharper contrast with Hillary, and his sense of timing proved to have been right. This isn't to say that Obama shouldn't be hammering back at McCain harder, just that it's possible that Obama and his advisers have a game plan in place and know what they're doing. Their pacing was pretty on target last time.


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Good points.

Timing is everything. Last fall, Obama was down 15-20 points to HRC. He knew when to bring it on.

Along the tempests right now are occurring in the teapot of August. The switch will be flipped soon, probably starting with the convention.

They did miss a huge opportunity with the Phil Gramm story. That was a great way to start defining McCain as another Republican who doesn't care about the economy.

Again, Obama is not interested in a political stunt. Equating John McCain to George Bush is more effective. Nobody cares about Phil Graham

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I could not disagree with you more. It wasn't about Phil Gramm, it was about McCain's chief economic adviser saying the recession was all in our heads. It was an opportunity to combine that with McCain's own words on the economy to show him as hopelessly out of touch on an issue that will be the most important.

What you call a "stunt," I call long-term branding of the kind that tags McCain as out-of-touch in a way he couldn't recover in the fall.

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Just because he hasn't used it yet, doesn't mean he won't.

Gramm's words, same as McCain's, are a matter of public record. they can be used at the discretion of the O campaign.

I agree. Just as the McCain camp is not using HRC's words endorsing McCain as commanderinchief at their discretion.

Obama has a clear arc in his campaign messaging. The first thing he consistently does is put out his personal narrative, because he understands folks do not know him. Secondly, he talks about policy on hot button issues that Americans care about energy, health care, education and taxes. After he has laid that ground work ...then he believe he is in a position to go negative.

Firtst, however Obama beleives he needs to stand on the foundation of what he is FOR before saying how his opponent is wrong and whollop his character.

He had no problem later in the campaign describing Clinton as Annie Oakley nor calling her out on pandering and gimmicks.

He also hit back hard on that 3AM ad. Which resulted in him winning the state of TX.

My observation is that Obama is laying out a thorough ground game in states that he has calculated he needs based on the electoral college. Just like he calculated the districts he needed based on delegates. He is focused on winning the long game not short term tit for tat.

I believe that he is a good strategist and superb tactician. All of which will culminate following the convention when he revs up in high gear all those ground offices he has unleashed since becoming the 'presumptive' nominee.

I am hopefully and prayerful that the Clintons fall in line...they are the reason that Obama is experiencing angst from the party base. They are the reason that more Dems are not coming on board and instead are all lurking in the background making demands and putting conditions on supporting Obama.

Obama knows there are numerous snakes in the grass but he is out to win the war and not engage in all these meaningless skirmishes.

ReMEMber, Hillary won some battles but she indeed lost the war. Now, she& BIll are acting just like Southerners who refuse to accept they loss the Civil War, she continues to wave her confederate flag and rally her starsandbars crowd with noise about 'symbolic' balloting and 'honoringandrespecting' their LOSS. She&Bill just like those confederates need to shutup, sitdown and joining the winning team which is the UNITED States of America and not their pitiful 'stands rights' advocacy.

As usual, the Clintons are too selfcentered and narcissitic to see the forest for the trees. Let them rot and wallow in their own bitter denial.

The Democratic party has a new standard bearer.

His name is Barack Hussein Obama.

You hit the nail on the head

Just as the McCain camp is not using HRC's words endorsing McCain as commanderinchief at their discretion.

McCain's discretion has waned: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080807/ts_alt_afp/usvotemccainclintonmedia_080807135813;_ylt=AsuWRkNsLHa4zkgGJJYkb6epg9IF

Sorry Schmedley that was a typo..it should have been noW instead of not..since there is no edit function I couldn't correct it.

Gotcha. I remember the early days of commenting (1995 or so) when even CNN had an edit function (this was before they pulled the plug on the whole enteriprse).

You guys are missing the fundamental truth. The people that will decide this election are the independents. McCain has already been branded with George Bush. The pictures are all over the place and he cannot escape it. I am a student of history and I know what happen in 1980. Roll back the tape of 1980 and see what the chattering class was talking about. They said Regan is too soft, too risky and blah blah blah.

Obama should stay away from the media sensationalism and focus more on ground game. That is what wins election not bunch of punditry on TV. Obama has all the facts on his side and there is no need to be worried. The polls are meaningless at this point.

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Gbenga,

You and I might be the only people singing this song, but I couldn't agree with you more: The ground game is going to win this thing. The media narrative will be dictated, one week at a time, by stunts and effective counterpunching. If Obama had better chief surrogates, this wouldn't be an issue. (And to his credit, John Kerry absolutely pwned Joe Lieberman on MTP last week). But in the end, the national polls aren't reflective of the fact that the electoral votes will be awarded on a state-by-state basis, just like always. And the state polls aren't reflective of the core demographics that Team Obama is working for. So again, those of us who want an Obama victory in November should focus less on nitpicking and second guessing, and more on phone banking, voter registration, donating when we can, and trying to get our boots dirty in swing states...

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Co-sign.

And everybody ought to be prepared for an entire week of angst, given that Obama's going on vacation...

Nope, you're not the only two singing it. I'm at least harmonizing in the background.

Props to all you guys. I've been getting increasingly annoyed with all the worrisome worry getting thrown around so it's nice to see several of you articulating this stuff calmly and rationally.

I agree Gbenga.

Those pundits and newstalkingheads are simply trying to get him to 'create' news for them. They want him to give them something to talk about. Obama refuses to be goaded into the 24hrincessantcablenews demand for 'events' to discuss. He has a strategy and he is deploying it effectively and that meets ignoring the insatiable need for cable to have something to say.

In the interim, the cablenews is now saying he is 'overexposed' a term used solely for 'celebritys'...and it is just annoying.

Obama is no celebrity and his ground game is proving that. He has folks out going door to door in over 20 states, they are canvassing, registering voters and taking his message to people throughout their state. THAT is the news that cable should be reporting on, if they were not so frigging lazy.

obama refuses to be their 'celebritypoliticalstunt' candidate.

He does not engage in DRAMA for the their 'talking madeupconjecturespeculation' reporting deemed "news"

My wife and I are part of the ground war here in NC and Obama is going about the election the right way. We are averaging 8-1 in Democrats over repugicans for new voters. We have an active group of volunteers with tons of effort and the focus is not campaigning yet but the grassroots. This is what will win NC for Obama. McFuddle does not have even a field office yet in NC. Do not lose hope the troops are there for the real effort coming soon.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the media is going to do what it's going to do. In some ways, for a campaign to concern itself too much with the pundits is a Sisyphean exercise, because even if you get them to pull you up one week, they're just going to knock you back down the next. You do have to push back on them enough to keep from getting crushed. But beyond that nominal maintenance, it starts to get pointless, because there's no way you can truly win that game.

I agree with others that the ground game (and local advertising and media) are where you're going to get much more reward for your efforts.

That's a damn perceptive comment. And well-stated.

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Even though he resigned from the campaign, Phil Gramm is an albatross who should be hung around McCain's neck. He chose Gramm to be his economic adviser and Gramm's laws and bank deregulation led to the sub-prime mess. McCain dumped Gramm after the snapping turtle mocked the public's anxiety about the economy, not because McCain suddenly discovered that Gramm's positions were not not helpful to the nation.

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Bringing up Phil Gramm is anything but a political stunt.
Between energy and banking deregulation that he designed and promoted in the Senate, he is arguably the most responsible party for one of the primary causes of our current economic woes in the US.
And McCain is leaning on him as an important economic advisor.
It's either indicative of bad judgment, OR indicative that McCain likes how things are going, and would like to see more of the same.

At the risk of self-promotion, I predicted this timing issue back in February.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/02/the-cadence-of-hope.php

Good analysis.
Hope needs time to marinate. Now is the time to marinate, where it seeps into the fibers so that it can slow cook to fallin off the bone tenderness, when it's time for the meal. Marinating is hard slow work and that is what the field offices across the nation are doing. Hope is slowly seeping into the fiber of the nations being.

Hope is the antidote to despair. Without hope folks only see right in front of them and give up and walk away. Obama's field team is carrying that message of hope to neighborhood doors all across the nation.

When folks lament about the issues confronting us today and say they don't know how we'll ever get out of Iraq, pay for gas or food and the mortgage. A member of the O-team knocks at their doors and talks about hope and how we have to begin to do the hard work it will take to take back our country and beat back those huge corporate gas profits with rebates for Americans who are struggling to make ends meet.

When folks wonder if they will ever be able to afford health insursance, they need hope, so that they do not despair and walk away but with those O-team knockers coming into their communities, holding neighborhood meetings. Hope seeps throughout the community and folks wake up to the fact that hope will indeed enable us to do the work required to take America back.

It is demonstrated by their team effort, not Obama on the tube creating soundbites and talking points for the cablenews network.

It is on the ground, door by door, neighbor by neighbor..citizens working together to change this country and restore domestic policies that help the poor and middle class vs. corporate America.

People see hope in action.

That is what the political reality is and Obama is rolling it out.

Change we can believe in.

Exactly. Enough handwringing and second-guessing. Obama has proven time and time again that he knows what he is doing. He is doing just fine.

The media is complete crap though.

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The difference between hitting Hillary and McCain: Pre-Iowa, Hillary was not attacking Obama so Obama would have been viewed as a hypocrit if he attacked her out-of-hand. McCain, however, has been engaged in character attacks and lies. You can't stand by and let that go on. He has to hit back--hard.

Word. The media is obviosuly trying to keep the race close because of ratings. Who can blame them? CNN beat Fox News thnks to the Dem primary, so they fall on the trap of keeping things close, even at the expense of its own credibility.

Thank god for Jack Cafferty!

To Frog Leg's point, I think that Obama is just more patient than we are. McCain is busy shooting his load early, going after the jugular way in advance of the GE. If he's shot everything and is still close/slightly behind, McCain is left with nothing but rehashing old points that he trotted out previously.

I think that Obama may even want the polls to be close now, as that keeps the fundraising incentive going. Furthermore, he can surge after the convention. We've had Dems in the past who have had huge leads and have played to survive, than to win.

Furthermore, I think that after the first debate, Obama will start to pull ahead cleanly.

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Wow, some McCain imagery in there that I'd rather not think about.

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You mean Cindy's pearl necklace?

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Oh my God! ew.

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But, admittedly, funny as hell

Well Pangaea..based on your imagery...Women know to throw slambamthankyoumam McCain under the buss as the song goes...

I want a man with a slow hand.

OK, apologies for the imagery. Putting visuals aside, is there logic to what I wrote?

Most definitely. I beleive you are right in your assessment.

it's possible that Obama and his advisers have a game plan in place and know what they're doing.

The Obama camp must have a strategy which they deem superior to reacting to McCain's attacks and which will yield better results than attempting to control meaningless short-term swings in the poll numbers.

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I wonder if that "strategy" is: 1. Get to the vacation. 2. Go to Hawaii. 3. Come back, look at the situation, and react.

I often think that campaigns are pretty chaotic, and though there may be a general strategy, they don't have everything really planned out. Maybe the "master plan" is a myth.

I will not discount that vacation with the apple pie side of the family together with all the coverage it will get as not being part of the campaign.

It wasn't during the primaries. They made a plan and they more or less stuck to it.

Of course, its axiomatic that no battle plan survives contact with the enemy, but if you have a plan, you at least have a foundation and a frame into which you can fit the improvisations necessitated by what the enemy actually does. Without one, you're just some loser engaging in chaotic reactions.

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One thing that is true is that Obama has had most of the same people throughout, guiding the way. How many shuffles has McCain's staff gone through? His hands probably are hurting from it by now.

(please no references to Pangaea's thread above....)

I mean how could we doubt that they do?

Anyone who had the strength and wisdom to take on the Clintons in their own party as freshman Senator and BEAT them from coast to coast and sea to shining sea...definitely has a plan to beat the GOP as well.

Obama is a masterful politician, and yes he has some serious challenges, but when it comes to politics are the GOP more formidable than the Clintons? Wasn't that one of the Clintons main attacks on Obama that only 'they' could take on the GOP and win? Well, Obama took them on and won and I know he is going to beat the GOP in the general as well.

We need to start giving the O-team some props. This is one longshot that does not beleive in resting on their laurels, they plan, prepare and then attack, attack, attack.

September is going to be a ferocious month. However, the Clintons are not dead..Obama has to spend energy to completly demolish the strangelehold they have on the party..right now those backbiters are scheming and planning an insurgency on the convention floor as a 'symbolic ballot' to HRC.

After the convention Barack is going to come out slamming once the Clintons are banish to the stratosphere and folks actually believe they are dead he will have the FULL strength of the party behind him.

I hope his going home to Hawaii to visit his grandmother will result in his mind having the peace and relaxation to really gut those Clintons like the gutter rats they have proven to be.

This is a good analysis that makes sense. People tend to have short memories. I am glad Obama is ignoring all those talking heads in DC. The people in DC are usually wrong 98% of the time - especially the so called strategists that talked in the background. If they are that good strategists, why are they unemployed? In fact, they are losers.

They were both avoiding personal attacks until Obama finally succumbed to pressure and "took the gloves off".

But to talk about it in this vein re: McCain is to suggest that Obama should do a simple re-run.

I disagree. Obama cannot afford to be seen as mean and personal, because McCain isn't.

Could be that he is just waiting to give McSame a little birthday present...

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On 2008-08-29 Fri, McSame will turn 72.

Ugh.  That's gross.  Well, at least half-gross.

Ok, I agree he shouldn't get down to McCain's level yet. It damages his brand, lowers the level of discourse. We do like to look back with pride that he won "his way" against the Clinton machine.

But we also often forget this: when Hillary got REALLY negative -- signing up former enemies, 3 AM ads, "going there" on the Wright thing -- he kind of already had the nomination won. Or at least had an almost insurmountable head start.

There will be no such electoral head start this time. Everything comes down to one day in November.

It will be the real test of his new political strategy, and I'm optimistic that it will be the final vindication of it.

For hope, I look back to Indiana and North Carolina, where he finally locked this thing up against Hillary's worst onslaught yet, even refusing to take the gas tax holiday bait.

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In other words, just because he knew how to win a primary doesn't mean he knows how to win a general.

I hope he does, just would agree with you that one does not equal another.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

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Not to mention - her big donors leaned all over the DNC and the DCCC.

He ought to know by now how to deal with it - Clinton was extremely negative at the end and he managed.

"There will be no such electoral head start this time. Everything comes down to one day in November."

Sorry, Ian...but I think there will be. It is called his ground game. Obama is laying it out now. The cablenewspunditsandtalkingheads, are not talking about it.

The only reason most of us know about it here is because it is only being written and talked about in the blogsphere.

While Obama has used humor to effectively ridicule the GOP's more laughable attacks, I do feel that he needs to more effectively tie McCain and the GOP to Bush and the problems the country is facing.

So, use humor to deflect personal attacks while changing the narrative by passionately expressing indignation at the Bush/GOP/McCain policies that have harmed the nation. Barack has to stop merely reacting to GOP attacks and go on the offensive in that manner.

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just that it's possible that Obama and his advisers have a game plan in place and know what they're doing. Their pacing was pretty on target last time.

O, ya think?!

LOL!

Nice one, Greg and thank you.

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One thing doesn't equal another. I'm not saying he DOESN'T know what he's doing, just saying the conclusion you're drawing doesn't hold up.

Just because he won the primary doesn't mean he knows how to win a general.

If that were the case, no general election candidate would ever lose - because they all won primaries!!

Again, I'm not saying the Obama team isn't right in their strategy, only that we don't know they're right and the notion that everyone has to shut up because they won the primary doesn't hold up to intellectual analysis.

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As far as i can tell, Obama's strategy defeated the best machine in 21st century. I'll put my money with him any day rather than those losers in DC

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Or perhaps Team Obama replaced Team Clinton as the best political machine of the 21st Century by actually being a political machine of the 21st Century...

Excellent point.
They are registering voters everywhere. Obama has known from the outset he could not compete with the status quo voters. He said from the very beginning he needed to increase the voter turnout in every state to win. He did that for Bill Clinton in IL in 92, increased the rolls by 100K to send Bill back to the White House along with making Mosley Braun the first black female US Senator.

Obama understands the ground game. His GOTV machine was the best. I beleive he is duplicating those efforts nationally to give him the electoral college edge he needs to win.

Whereas, the Clintons and most Democrats heretofore have continued to try to win with the same base of voters and eek out wins where they never won the majority white vote in national elections.

Obama understands the politics, the voter base and he has even put together an advance legal team to combat voter suppression in NC, GA, IL, and IN.

The news is simply not reporting what he is doing. Instead they are climbing on the McCain bandwagon and trying to create another narrative for Obama rather than doing their jobs to cover the campaign that IS being rolled out.

Point being..cablenews also does not know how to cover the 21st century political machine.

Actually, Greg should hush. Let the under-estimators continue to be so.

I am frequently inclined to pull my hair out because of this or that the Obama campaign does or does not do. Whenever I feel this temptation, I am obliged to remind myself that I am a guy who has watched a lot of politicians win elections, while Obama is a man who has actually won elections (including an election that no sane person would have bet on him winning at the beginning). In other words, between myself and Obama, I can see that his judgment is much more demonstrably worthy of respect than my own. Having reflected on that, I am generally inclined to trust him and play along. At the risk of sounding like a pompous fool (which might well be the case), I think others would do well to take this same approach.

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Never a pompous fool, dude.

I'm away in upstate New York, and I've seen multiple Obama signs, a couple of Paul signs, and not a single McCain sign. This is a conservative section of New York State---not Rochester, Buffalo or Syracuse, but out in the sticks where the economy sucks.

Just my two cents.

Hey CT Voter,
About those couple of signs you saw. I learned an interesting fact when I went to the opening of the Obama HQ here in MN.

You know how campaigns generally give away all those signs? Obama doesn't. You have to buy them.

I was stunned..then I said to myself...this is one frugal politician. He does not beleive in wasting money buying a truckload of signs to give away.

You wanna support Obama with a yard sign..then pony up a contribution.

I said all that to say...do not be dismayed by seeing a smattering of signs. Typically, donors are sending their money directly to the campaign and like me..they beleive it is a better use of their money than purchasing a yard sign.

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That makes the presence of Obama signs even more amazing in this relatively conservative district, IMO.

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the notion that everyone has to shut up because they won the primary doesn't hold up to intellectual analysis.

Touchy, aren't we? No one said to shut up. Greg just put an argument out there for seeing it this way.

LOL Greg, I was one of the Oct 2007 Gang of Handwringers...

Lost one of my Team Obama ground crew to Edwards because he was convinced that O would not strike back hard enough

Obama has weathered the storm before and he's doing it again. Even that it's early to see the real effects of McCain Celebrity offensive, Obama's national lead is now above the margin of errors and he's still leading in most swing states (except Florida). McCain doesn't have a choice but to stick to the Rove playbook and that will backfire in the long term.

Also, he has his own style to go on the offensive. He won't go into the gutter of personal attacks, but staying in the issues that matters. Finally, I say it again: the ground game will be the key to victory.

There's a risk in Obama's taking a week off, but let's be honest: between the convention and the election will be the toughest weeks of his life, so its better to be rested and ready. McCain will regret not taking some days off himself when the gaffes roll on the real campaign.

The game is not over until it's over!

Still, I would like to see a bit of the "Chicago Way" Plouffe was boasting of in June

"Chicago way" will come after the convention. Have you heard about October's surprise. They have McCain wrapped up already but the timing is not ripe yet.

I hope it IS the convention.

There should only be 2 questions for DC's chattering class during the RNC, week following:


1. Where's George Bush?
2. Who's been seen in Mpls airport men's rooms

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Since the level of anxiety is so fucking high - let's just face our worse case scenario and get it out of the way. McLame wins.

You know what will happen if McLame win? Nothing. We'll have a majority in Congress and he won't be able to do much of anything.

In some people's minds that is a desirable outcome.

Having one party control the Executive, Legislative and very likely Judicial branch is too much power. Bush's first term showed us where that leads.

Checks and balances.

God are you stupid.

That Demo majority sure has stuffed it to George W. Hitler these past two years, hasn't it? Without of course not even mentioning McCain's free hand in terms of war, peace, treaties, signing statements, judicial appointments.

Did I mention that you're stupid. And like all middle-class liberals, a coward. Already giving up in August.

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Not good to go down that road -- we must win.

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The thought of that doddering old fool in the White House is depressing, especially if he gets the job by Schmidt smears, FNC propaganda, disenfranchisement and vote theft. It could be even more depressing after he chooses a younger VP who will be his Cheney, sneaking around in the shadows subverting the Constitution for more executive power.

"I disagree. Obama cannot afford to be seen as mean and personal, because McCain isn't" . . .

Are you kidding me? McCain IS mean and personal. If he isn't setting the tone of his campaign, who is? Andrea Mitchell blames his handlers. Well, if that's the case, can you imagine what his presidency would look like?

McCain is not the kind of guy who is going to say "the buck stops here". If someone in his campaign says something too outrageous, like Gramm, they just resign and retire to the background. McCain is just as nasty as Gramm who wears a permanent sneer directed toward anyone who disagrees with him.

Yeah Arleang

I saw all that excuse making for McCain on MSNBC by Mitchell and the other commentator...I was like WOW...get a load of how many excuses they are willing to make for the 'happyhonorable' warrior.

Couldn't belive my ears. I don't ever hear such commentary to back up Obama, where he gets the benefit of the doubt. He is just portrayed as the 'unknown'..the 'other' who beat the Clintons...now who IS this guy, they all parrot.

geez..just disgusting.

Obama didn't beat Hillary by getting tough. He beat Hillary because the DNC got tough.

Although the DNC was able to influence the primaries in favor of Obama, they don't have the same big stick to bludgeon McCain with like they did Hillary.

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Another day another baseless claim from BK.

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Fact free, as always. BK, that is.

Say what?

Hillary had the advantage on money, name recognition, machinery, etc.

She lost because of overconfidence. She was the inevitable before the primary (remember, people) and their team sleep on their laurels. Obama's people worked hard from the get go and when she realized that she actually had to win primaries to win, it was too late. She went ballistic and hurt her image (and Bill's) in the process. Now she has a huge debt and high negatives that could hurt her if she was the nominee.

Let's move on, people...

So the DNC forced Clinton to go to YearlyKos in 2007 and tell the netroots that if they did not like her Iraq war vote they could lump it? The DNC forced Clinton to write off the Wisconsin primary until a week before the vote, and then reverse course (after Obama had already built up a large lead) and waste millions of dollars trying to win so that she could not only lose big, but also waste a lot of money and end up with a great deal of egg on her face in the process? It was the DNC that made her ignore all of those caucus states, not even opening a single campaign office in some of them?

Somehow this does not sound especially plausible to my ear...

Another possibility is that Obama and his team are not relying on the public polling to refine their message, but (in addition to longer term planning) internal polling.

But in the primary there were many who believed that Obama responded too late. I disagree with this. In many cases it appeared to me that Obama waited until some momentum had built up over an issue, allowing everyone to get "on the record" with their opinion. Then as everyone turned to focus on Obama, once everyone was listening, he would respond.

This allowed him to box everyone else in to a more fixed position. I can't count the number of times that pundits and candidates simply say the opposite of what their opponent says. (Remember the visit the troops issue.)

If you want another analogy, think defense lawyer. Obama lets the media and McCain to lay out the case, then pokes holes in it.

What tends to happen is that McCain and the media build a fantasy world around an issue which sounds great at first. As Obama lets them build their case, they collectively screw themselves.

But the process takes time. In the end, McCain, his surrogates and the media lose credibility.

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"The Obama camp, of course, did start drawing a sharper contrast with Hillary, and his sense of timing proved to have been right. This isn't to say that Obama shouldn't be hammering back at McCain harder, just that it's possible that Obama and his advisers have a game plan in place and know what they're doing. Their pacing was pretty on target last time."

It's nice to see the original post do the heavy lifting so that when all the second guessers (many of whom haven't been elected President of anything since 7th grade, if at all) fill the comments thread with their back seat (of another car on a different road) driving, I can make a generally snarky post like this one and encourage everyone to spend their weekend phone banking. Run-on sentence. Sentence fragment.

It's not taking the low road to be direct about the differences in this campaign. McCain is Bush. There is plenty to talk about.

But why does it seem so hard? so cautious? Like I have said before: this is no time for nuance.

Study and reflect on the nuances when in office but not now.

He'll probably win anyway, but i think his supporters need a little something to get excited about. Not another beautiful speech that warms your heart but a hard hitting battle cry would be nice.

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Dude - when you say "his supporters need a little something..."

That is one hell of a blanket statement. I'm a supporter and I don't need a thing.

You are projecting your own need onto everyone else.

Obama supporters should get their butt of the couch and start organizing their neighborhood.

Who's supporters are fired up?

When McCain launches ads like Celebrity, it's trying to rally a GOP base who's not so excited for him. In fact, even Limbaugh and Coulter we're eager to do anything to stop him in the primary.

Looks to the registration numbers and the way the ground game is being settled. Even the polls that say that it's a close race show who's supporters are more excited.

Andrew Sullivan's blog had this quote that many people should remember everytime (with the ADD enviroment we're living in, I understand why):

"To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle" - George Orwell

Exactly. Enough handwringing and second-guessing. Obama has proven time and time again that he knows what he is doing. He is doing just fine.
Realistically the General Election doesn't go into full operation until after the Convention ... his strategy is yet to unfold but you can bet it will be powerful.

Co-sign X 1,000. If we could figure out a way to harness the power created by hand-wringing, we'd have the "energy crisis" solved by the end of next week.

Oops. This was in response to CT Voter's comment waaaaaaay up top.

And everybody ought to be prepared for an entire week of angst, given that Obama's going on vacation...
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One thing that keeps me level is that I'm not spending as much time online as I did in '04 and '06.

If the anxiety is getting to people - and it is - that's why. Get offline and quit following every bleeding 1/2 second of developments.

I respect Barack Obama for taking the high road, but sometimes when ur back is against the wall, you to start swinging. If the party is offering up help to the Obama camp to combat McCain attacks, then the Obama team should accept that help.

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I respect Barack Obama for taking the high road, but sometimes when ur back is against the wall, you to start swinging. If the party is offering up help to the Obama camp to combat McCain attacks, then the Obama team should accept that help.

TELL OBAMA LET THE DNC HELP

To reach the Campaign Headquarters by phone, please call: (866) 675-2008

Obama probably doesn't trust the DNC.

They are controlled by Clinton operatives who were active in making problems for Kerry which was a factor in his losing.

Obama moved the DNC base of operation to Chicago for that very reason.

We do not need the DNC doing a blessedly thing until the nomination is wrapped up.

The DNC powerplayers are demanding concessions everyday from Obama, he can't afford to let them have a hand in this at this time.

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I think Obama waits for a couple of reasons. Let the first impression be that he is above attack ads and such, letting his opponent be branded the negative ad attacker. This leads to the second point - he can then defend his own attack as as defending himself/counter punching. Everybody believes in self-defense so his actions are not really held against him.

The one ahead in the primary or the polls has that luxury. The opponent running behind has to try to shake things up to gain ground.

I respect Barack Obama for taking the high road, but sometimes when ur back is against the wall, you to start swinging. If the party is offering up help to the Obama camp to combat McCain attacks, then the Obama team should accept that help.

TELL OBAMA LET THE DNC HELP

To reach the Campaign Headquarters by phone, please call: (866) 675-2008

Too many D.C. pundits telling you how to run your campaign- a campaign where a skinny black man with a funny name won one of the most meteoric primaries when no one expected.

Obama is doing fine. It looks like he's winning a landslide right now. I've been nervy in the past, but it's time to stay calm and make a difference we can.

Sept/Oct it will seem like all hell break loose. But it's only August.

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word up.

Fear that you may be right.

Obama is a better counter-puncher than Kerry was, but he is still a counter-puncher and not a knockout artist. By running the campaign as a granular grassroots community organizer, he risks losing the macro-narrative to the Republican attack machine. Just wait until the Republican 527 over-the-top slander ads start any day now. McCain has laid the groundwork with his over-the-top negative campaign launched last week.

What does it tell us when the most effective anti-McCain ad so far was the one done by Paris Hilton with the help of a couple of website comedians?

Maybe Obama needs fewer wonks and more stupid people on his campaign staff. His ads thus far have been bland and unremarkable (though the "Maverick" ad was a small step up). His wonkish, boring ads aim far too high to hit the typical low information swing voter. No one is going to talk about these forgettable Obama ads at the local bar, the barber shop, or the beauty parlor.

Just looking at the calendar, I thought that today, the Thursday before the Olympics begin, would have been a perfect day for a strategic surprise from the Obama camp: a VP announcement, a rash of sharp attack ads, a resonant new populist campaign message--something, anything. But as far as I can determine, there is nothing on Obama's schedule today. He has a joint appearance with Hillary tomorrow, and then he disappears on vacation in Hawaii for a week, with no orchestrated surrogates to fill the void while McCain has the field all to himself.

What will McCain and the Republican 527 groups do with this opening?

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By running the campaign as a granular grassroots community organizer, he risks losing the macro-narrative to the Republican attack machine. Just wait until the Republican 527 over-the-top slander ads start any day now. McCain has laid the groundwork with his over-the-top negative campaign launched last week.

*heavy sigh*

The only thing I can figure, having already gone through this twice before, is that guys just cannot stop being armchair quarterbacks - they start that shit young - they are all convinced they could win the game if the coach would just put them in.

Yeah right - sure you would.

Yo yo yo. I'm just saying that it is hard to be on the cyber sidelines, as it were. Obama knows what he's doing. I know that.

I do what I can but, for the most part, all I can do is watch.

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I get that - that's a lot of it.

We're involved, but we aren't. It is hard.

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This is a valid point Greg. Maybe they do have a plan. It just isn't evident to those of us out in the hinterlands. As for your comment that:


I have to point out that the pretty much on target you're referring to is if you are okay with barely winning. The last two months of the primaries were a series of close contests, most of which Obama lost. Obama barely even swung back at Hillary who pummelled him on a daily basis. When he did swing back it was not what one could characterize as vigorous or forceful. I don't think a narrow victory is good enough for November.

Assuming he is elected, if Obama hopes to accomplish anything of any significance whatsoever, he will need huge Democratic majorities in Congress to do so (much larger than what we now have) because the Congress is filled with so many DINO's right now like McCaskill, Bayh, Rockefeller, et al that the Republicans have tactit control of the Senate on almost every issue and similar power on numerous issues in the house that are central to every major program/policy Democrats are interested in changing or implementing in the coming years. A narrow victory for our candidate for President does nothing at all, in fact it impedes our chances of, electing Democratic majorities in both houses large enough to actual implement any of the major policies Obama says he wants to implement. There's simply no evidence that Obama's team of advisors and campaign staff have any intention of crushing McCain as would be necessary to helping the rest of the Democratic ticket in the manner they ought to and if the primaries are offered as an example of what they will do it isn't very heartening.

Additionally, if we don't absolutely clobber the Republicans in a decisive manner we invite them to once again steal the Presidency. It is only in a close election that they can steal enough votes to alter the outcome. In a decisive victory we take that opportunity completely away from the Republicans.

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Don't know why the quote didn't show up but here's what ought to be in the blank space:

"Their pacing was pretty on target last time."

I sure hope so with all my heart and soul. I have been despairing about McCain's lieing ads and how willingly the right wing media jumps on it. Belittling and mocking is a favorite strategy of republicans, and it seems that the public has learned nothing from this time after time.

We've just posted ringtone-ready audio from this interview over at Entertonement.

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