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Obama: "No Possible Justification" For Russia's Attack On Georgia
Barack Obama has released the following statement on the Russia-Georgia War:
Good morning. The situation in Georgia continues to deteriorate because of the escalation of Russia's use of military force. I have spoken to President Saakashvili, and conveyed my deep regret over the loss of life, and the suffering of the people of Georgia.
For many months, I have warned that there needs to be active international engagement to peacefully address the disputes over South Ossetia and Abkhazia, including a high-level and neutral international mediator, and a genuine international peacekeeping force - not simply Russian troops.
No matter how this conflict started, Russia has escalated it well beyond the dispute over South Ossetia and invaded another country. Russia has escalated its military campaign through strategic bombing and the movement of its ground forces into the heart of Georgia. There is no possible justification for these attacks.
I reiterate my call for Russia to stop its bombing campaign, to stop flights of Russian aircraft in Georgian airspace, and to withdraw its ground forces from Georgia. The Georgian government has proposed a cease-fire and the Russian government should accept it. There is also an urgent need for humanitarian assistance to reach the people of Georgia, and casualties on both sides.
The United States, Europe and all other concerned countries must stand united in condemning this aggression, and seeking a peaceful resolution to this crisis. We should continue to push for a United Nations Security Council Resolution calling for an immediate end to the violence. This is a clear violation of the sovereignty and internationally recognized borders of Georgia - the UN must stand up for the sovereignty of its members, and peace in the world.
The statement continues after the jump.
I welcome the visit of the French and Finnish foreign ministers to Georgia as a first step toward mediation. There should also be a United Nations mediator to address this crisis, and the United States should fully support this effort. We should also convene other international forums to condemn this aggression, to call for an immediate halt to the violence, and to review multilateral and bilateral arrangements with Russia - including Russia's interest in joining the World Trade Organization.
The violence taking place along the Black Sea is just miles from Sochi, the site for the Winter Olympics in 2014. It only adds to the tragedy and outrage of the current situation that Russia has acted while the world has come together in peace and athletic competition in Beijing. This action is wholly inconsistent with the Olympic ideal.
While returning to a pre-August 8 military posture is a necessary first step to resolving this crisis, we cannot tolerate the unacceptable status quo that led to this escalation. That means Russian peacekeeping troops should be replaced by a genuine international peacekeeping force, Georgia should refrain from using force in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and a political settlement must be reached that addresses the status of these disputed regions.
Going forward, the United States and Europe must support the people of Georgia. Beyond immediate humanitarian assistance, we must provide economic assistance, and help rebuild what has been destroyed. I have consistently called for deepening relations between Georgia and transatlantic institutions, including a Membership Action Plan for NATO, and we must continue to press for that deeper relationship.
The relationship between Russia and the West is long and complicated. There have been many turning points, for good and ill. This is another turning point. Let me be clear: we seek a future of cooperative engagement with the Russian government, and friendship with the Russian people. We want Russia to play its rightful role as a great nation - but with that role comes the responsibility to act as a force for progress in this new century, not regression to the conflicts of the past. That is why the United States and the international community must speak out strongly against this aggression, and for peace and security.
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If our military wasn't over-extended in Iraq we may have more leverage to use against Russia -- another good reason for us getting out ASAP!!!
August 11, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what McCain is hoping for.
August 11, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh was complaining that McCain wanted to add Georgia to NATO and here is Obama's implying that he is seeking the same.
Obama is the chair of the Senate Sub-committee on Europe which has jurisdicition over NATO which has held no -- NO -- policy meetings.
Nice to hear that Obama has been saying all these things for months -- probably more effective if he had addressed them in the sub-committee.
Obama is being an idiot in one respect -- Russia was not supposed to attack back after Georgia went after Ossetia during the Olympics? Olympic truce for Russia but not for Georgia? Internal massacres don't count?
Regardless of whether it was a good thing or not for Russian 'peace-keepers' to be in the South Osseitia they were there and were among those attacked by the Georgian forces. Did anyone give any thought to how Russia was apt to react?
So far, there is absolutely nothing that that has been proposed which is apt to induce Russia to leave either Ossetia or Abkazhia.
August 12, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
If we hadn't gone into Iraq, Russia would not be as powerful as it is today (massive wealth on the back of oil and natural gas).
August 11, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
you guys are effing cry-babies
August 11, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell are you talking about?
August 12, 2008 1:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Should have talked to Steve Clemmons buddy Anatol Lieven, not Holbrooke
http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2008/georgias_miscalculation_7729
.the Georgians appear to have miscalculated very badly. Russia has made it clear over the years that it has no intention of suffering defeat in South Ossetia or Abkhazia.
August 11, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that sounds Presidential... as opposed to McCain's "tough talk"
But we all know that:
"Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war"
-- John S. McCain
August 11, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Obama write this while sunning on the beach?
I want to know why two Presidential candidates are talking to foreign leaders at all regarding this crisis. It's ridiculous that this has become a campaign play.
August 11, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because our real president was busy in China. Seriously, it's to be expected.
August 11, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's kind of interesting Obama's making calls on Russia, the UN etc to do things, but isn't making any calls on Bush to do anything or calling into question why Bush hasn't.
August 11, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't agree more.
Just because the White House staff has become a hollowed out skeleton thanks to this Lame Duck President it doesn't mean that the White House can provide such a sluggish response.
I find it incredibly annoying that McCain decided to try and out-do the White House, and the real Commander-in-Chief (however incompetent), before the actual President had a chance to respond. (Perhaps McCain has persuaded himself that he already is the C-in-C).
It makes it seem all the more like a political ploy to boost poll numbers and steal the limelight whilst Obama is away (despite the fact that the initial statements were bellicose and unhelpful, and not forgetting that the Russian government called McCain a hypocrite out of hand because of Randy Scheuneman's lobbying). McCain shouldn't stick his oar in, he doesn't call the shots (and hopefully won't do).
August 11, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aha! I knew Obama was a Communist:
August 11, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder how many confused Americans think that Russia has invaded the eponymous U.S. State. There are a lot of dumb people out there.
August 11, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Homonymous, I think. Not eponymous. Unless they were both named after the same George.
August 11, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh oh. You mean they didn't invade Georgia? Damn!
August 11, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile, McBushSame just copied and pasted his comments from Wikipedia...
Another reason why Senator McBushSame is incompetent for this job...
August 11, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the other hand, I guess it doesn't hurt to bluster when there's absolutely nothing that anyone can do about that idiot Saakashvili.
Or does it?
August 11, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
US military drained by the useless quagmire in Iraq, US diplomatic clout eroded to almost nothing, why would Russia care whether they piss off the US?
August 11, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
did Cheney give Saakashvili a green light, since Bush and Puten were both at the sportfest in China?
was Saakashvili deluded enough to fall in with Cheney's delusions?
August 11, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
"No matter how this conflict started, Russia has escalated it well beyond the dispute over South Ossetia and invaded another country. Russia has escalated its military campaign through strategic bombing and the movement of its ground forces into the heart of Georgia. There is no possible justification for these attacks."
Of course, you could write a virtually identical statement about the US invasion of Iraq. Since the US invaded an oil rich nation with no credible provocation it is predictable that other powers would play a similar game to serve their own interests and to pay back the US for overreaching.
August 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. And Obama alone has the credibility to make such a statement.
August 11, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w
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August 11, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
McBush is blowin' smoke--full of sound and fury signifying nada. gor nisht. Besides the NeoCons are ass-deep in plans for "bomb, bomb, bomb--bomb bomb Iran".
Putin's answer to McBush is "yeah, you and what Army?"
August 11, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred Kaplan's Slate piece linked on the front page says it perfectly. It's sad as hell to see Georgians wondering where America is, they were somehow led to believe America was going to ride in like the cavalry and start a war with Russia over South Ossetia. It's obvious that hey were led on by America on at least some level, because Georgia isn't silly enough to believe that they could take on the Russian Bear by themselves.
August 11, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
. Thank God John McSame "knows how to win wars"
I feel safer already
August 11, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, forget everything that has occurred, forget history, provocations (both sides), just go back to prewar boundaries. Isn't that how most conflicts end? No? Gee, maybe Obama might listen to someone NOT in the Democratic/Republican foreign policy/security establishment. Too much to hope for? No shit.
August 11, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
contrast the following with Obama's response which is so much Washington "business-as-usual all the usual bullshit applies":
from the Washington Note:
This is a guest post by Nixon Center President Dimitri K. Simes that was written for joint publication at The Washington Note and National Interest.
It is remarkable, but probably inevitable, that so many in Washington have reacted with surprise and outrage to Russia's response to President Mikheil Saakashvili's attempt to reestablish Georgian control over South Ossetia by force.
Some of the angriest statements come from those inside and outside the Bush administration who contributed, I assume unwittingly, to making this crisis happen. And like post-WMD justifications for the invasion of Iraq, the people demanding the toughest action against Russia are focused on Russia's lack of democracy and heavy-handed conduct, particularly in its own neighborhood, and away from how the confrontation actually unfolded. Likewise, just as in the case of Saddam Hussein, these same people accuse anyone who points out that things are not exactly black and white, and that the U.S. government may have its own share of responsibility for the crisis, of siding with aggressive tyrants - in this case, in the Kremlin.
Yet many both outside and even inside the Bush administration predicted that the U.S. decision to champion Kosovo independence without Serbian consent would lead Moscow to become more assertive in establishing its presence in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
The Kremlin made abundantly clear that it would view Kosovo's independence without Serbian consent and a U.N. Security Council mandate as a precedent for the two Georgian de facto independent enclaves. Furthermore, while President Saakashvili was making obvious his ambition to reconquer Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Moscow was both publicly and privately warning that Georgia's use of force to reestablish control of the two regions would meet a tough Russian reaction, including, if needed, air strikes against Georgia proper.
So it would be interesting to know what President Saakashvili was thinking when, on Thursday night, after days of relatively low-level shelling around the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali (which both South Ossetians and Georgians blamed on each other), and literally hours after he announced on state-controlled TV the cessation of hostilities, he ordered a full-scale assault on Tskhinvali. And mind you, the assault could only succeed if the Georgian units went right through the battalion of Russian troops serving as international peacekeepers according to agreements signed by Tbilisi itself in the 1990s.
Under the circumstances, the Russian forces had three choices: to surrender, to run away, or to fight. And fight they did - particularly because many of the Russian soldiers were in fact South Ossetians with families and friends in Tskhinvali under Georgian air, tank, and artillery attacks. Saakashvili was reckless to count on proceeding with a blitzkrieg in South Ossetia without a Russian counterattack.
Now the Bush administration and outside commentators are appalled by Russia's disproportionate response. But proportionality is in the eye of the beholder. In July 2006, after Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers and killed three others--smaller losses than those inflicted on the Russian troops in Tskhinvali--the Israelis launched a massive bombardment of Lebanon, including Beirut, killing more than a thousand Lebanese, many of them civilians.
When some in the U.N. Security Council sought to condemn Israel's "disproportionate response," the United States acted as Israel's staunchest defender and prevented any resolution critical of Israel.
Notwithstanding this background, the United States has no good choices in dealing with the crisis. There is no realistic way to remove Russian forces from Abkhazia and South Ossetia short of a major war with Russia, which no responsible American political leader would advocate at this point. But whatever Saakashvili's responsibility is for the confrontation, America cannot allow an ally to be soundly defeated or especially overthrown by an insurgent Russia.
Accordingly, the first priority for the United States should be to make abundantly clear to Moscow that any attempt at forceful regime change in Georgia will have severe consequences for the U.S.-Russian relationship and that the United States would help Georgia to resist on the ground.
Though the U.S. will not send troops--and Moscow knows it--we can provide significant military assistance to Tbilisi and greatly complicate a Russian military advance. Bringing Georgian troops back to their country from Iraq is one step on this path.
While the Georgian army is no match for the much larger Russian forces, it is potent after years of double-digit budget increases and American equipment and training. Also, unlike in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, where most of the population is friendly to the Russians, any Russian attempts to occupy Georgia would likely encounter massive popular resistance.
Moscow disavows any plan to conquer Georgia, and the Bush administration should hold them to their word, both through diplomacy to the extent possible, and a display of resolve if necessary. When this has been accomplished, however, we should look for ways to work with Russia in the name of essential American interests. We should also disregard the hysterical diatribes of Saakashvili's American champions, who protest too much--perhaps because their irresponsible encouragement of the Georgian president was a contributing factor on the road to the war.
-- Dimitri K. Simes
August 11, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is nothing in Obama's response which is inconsistent with this analysis.
"No matter how this conflict started, Russia has escalated it well beyond the dispute over South Ossetia and invaded another country. Russia has escalated its military campaign through strategic bombing and the movement of its ground forces into the heart of Georgia. There is no possible justification for these attacks."
August 12, 2008 8:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
A story in today,s Gaurdian UK written by Ian Traynor claim,s Bush was told about Georgia,s plans for action in that area back in April.Bush warned Georgia not to proceed.The point is Bush knew this was going to happen.
August 11, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Russians and Putin in particular do not play games; if Simes remarks are 1/3 accurate you can lay much of the blame on Bush & Co. Thinks about the missile sites in Eastern Europe, and the missile in Turkey in the Kennedy era and their removal in resolving the Cuban missile crises. Some folks still want to go back to yesterday; maybe a very limited peace keeping but not in these circumstance as American troops in this region for any other reason is insanity.
August 11, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Guess those 2,000 mercenaries Bush flew home from Baghdad didn't help...nor has US training and 1.7 billion bucks
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4509692.ece
Georgian Army Flees in Disarray - Times (UK)
The Georgian Army was in complete disarray last night after troops and tanks fled the town of Gori in panic and abandoned it to the Russians without firing a shot. As Russian armoured columns rolled deep into central and western Georgia, seizing several towns and a military base, President Saakashvili said that his country had been cut in half.
Thank God John McCain and Randy Shueneman "know how to win wars". Those Russians are in for some major consequences
August 11, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep! I'm still waiting for President Saakashvili press conference telling the public that McBush told him all the secrets to beating those pesky Russians.
August 12, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where is Condi?
August 12, 2008 3:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey in the process of trying to kill off the U.N., Bush managed to defang and declaw NATO. Two birds with one stone!
August 12, 2008 7:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it, when we had a clue that this would happen; our POTUS, VP, SECTUS (Condi), are on vacation (and have been since day one)?
Oh, I Know, it's Obamas fault. He is in Hawaii.
What incompetence. We knew it would happen, we egged it on, without any plan.
Way to go.
Ready to go on day one.
And now we have Ace McCaine (bought and paid for) playing Secretary of State.
Someone please remind him (Ace) we are talking about the other Georgia (The one that doesn't have Atlanta in it), the Georgia that's by the Caspian Sea; yeah that Georgia.
August 12, 2008 8:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. maybe we should call in Zell Miller to negociate this thigamagig.
August 12, 2008 8:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is a great, big, bag of corporate media wind. Russia had every possible reason to retaliate to Georgia's vicious attack on Southern Ossetia. He's no better than the rest of the lot. I can't believe that I once supported this buffoon.
August 12, 2008 8:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey idiot, POTUS got us here, he got to get us out of here. We only have one POTUS at a time.
August 12, 2008 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
WTF are you talking about. Again:
"No matter how this conflict started, Russia has escalated it well beyond the dispute over South Ossetia and invaded another country. Russia has escalated its military campaign through strategic bombing and the movement of its ground forces into the heart of Georgia. There is no possible justification for these attacks."
Do you just not grasp subtlety?
August 12, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, hey...if it were Tijuana and we are thie friends what would you do idiot. It's on their border not ours. Iraq is 2500 mile away not next door. Think.
August 12, 2008 9:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're missing the point. Obama's telling the Russians he understands why they responded, but they need to stop and go back to the pre-altercation boundaries. He's acknowledging that Georgia "started it" and respecting Russia's interests, but drawing a reasonable line. It's a totally different response than what McCain did.
August 12, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The headline above is somewhat misleading. Obama didn't say there was no justification for Russia taking some action, only for their incursion into Georgia beyond South Ossettia.
August 12, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's wrong with these Georgians, we gave them millions of worthless dollars in aid to shore up their military, and they have the temerity to retreat?
Darn it, we sent all of these high level people (Condi and Senators); up to a week ago to advise them. And then they took our advice and now they are in a wringer.
Send in Zell Miller, HE knows Georgia!
August 12, 2008 8:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
The weakness in Obama's response, as I cursorily see it, is the following:
It seems to me that such a resolution would be crafted in the U.N. Security Council, of which includes Russia who has veto authority.
Continuing to "push" for a resolution that will never be adopted seems, well, weak. You can expect McCain to jump all over this as evidence that Obama failed his "3 AM" moment.
Of course, this is all moot, since Russia has called for an immediate ceasefire. But expect the ramifications of this to linger through November.
August 12, 2008 8:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Would be difficult for McCain to jump all over that, as he has also called for pursuit of a U.N. Security Council resolution.
August 12, 2008 8:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about we let the Secretary of State and the Prezdent Clarify it for all of us?
Maybe not.
August 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
And then after a few hearings and we find out that we have been supplying the Georgians with arms and inteligence; Lo and behold, we got snookered again... into almost goin to War with a teal enemy!
But then again, Ace thought we were tryin to protect Atlanta.
August 12, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why could'nt Obama have said; " I have spoken with the Secretary of State and the leader of Georgia and understand that there are varying levels of disagreement. However I have made my feeling on this matter and made clear with them that they must come to an agreement that will bring us to a sense of parity. Now is not a time to posture; Now is the time for us as Americans to get behind the Administration and urge all other interested parties to come to the aid of the world."
August 12, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Audio of Obama on the conflict is up here.
August 12, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink