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Obama Campaign: Someone With "Zero Foreign Policy Experience" Is "Heartbeat Away From Presidency"

Obama campaign spokesperson Bill Burton blasts out a statement on McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as Veep, and it's a direct hit:

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

By any reasonable measure, the choice of someone as back-up commander-in-chief who has two years of experience running a small-population state should render McCain's primary campaign argument -- that Obama's alleged lack of commander-in-chief readiness is too risky in a dangerous world -- not just moot, but a running joke among political reporters and pundits alike.


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Yo Greg

Y'all might wish to put this somewhere

Sarah Palin and her Vikings ...group photo

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LOL - it looks like some bizzaro "swingers" club.

Whats with John McCain and beauty pageant people? Wasnt his first and 2nd wives also beauty pageant winners?

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Thanks for testing. I don't know about others, but this site is wildly misbehaving for me lately (besides the fact that it has refused a profile pic from me for days -- no great loss to the site there).

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So, she's saying in her speech that this is all about McCain being a vet. Outright. She might as well be pitching John Kerry in 04.

"This is all about who fought for their country," she said.

And about women.

So here's what it is:

POW, drilling, Pro-life women.

Is that enough?

In a word, No.

I think McCain was thinking more like:

POW drilling a pro-life woman (in the Oval Office).

"I'd like to thank Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton" I think I'm gonna throw up. When did the Twilight Zone become reality?

She just made a lameass appeal to Hillary's voters by praising HRC and her "18 million cracks in the glass ceiling".

Weak.

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I feel bad for Hillary: she has to watch this zombie bimbo on TV every day for the next 3 months.

Time for Hillary to respond.

Considered reaction: About the only way this could really work out for McCain is if she turns into Yulia Timoshenko.

She sounds like a complete hick.


Well Golly!. Shezzam. Gomer Palin comes to Washington.

Yup. Going for women. Plain and simple.

Judgement


Judgement


Judgement, ad infinitum....

i just listened to 15 seconds of her speaking and all i can say is: wow. and not a good wow. like a "are you serious?" wow.

I don't care how many times Obama has been elected to office: he won an intensive primary fair and square. That makes him meritorious. The choice of Palin is a slap in the face to those who believe in meritocracy.The GOP has conducted an all-out assault on affirmative action for decades, but in the end the party is now supporting an affirmative action choice. It is kidding itself if it wants the American public to believe that it is the party of meritocracy. It has managed to out-left the left with a choice that comes down to identity politics. We can spin it all we like to make it about energy and "values" but it's identity politics plain and simple.

This is a great chance for Hillary Clinton to bring over supporters to Obama by going after Palin. Clinton needs to attack her on her anti women stances and her lack of experience.

I don't care how many times Obama has been elected to office: he won an intensive primary fair and square. That makes him meritorious. The GOP has conducted an all-out assault on affirmative action for decades, but in the end the party is now supporting an affirmative action choice. It is kidding itself if it wants the American public to believe that it is the party of meritocracy. It has managed to out-left the left with a choice that comes down to identity politics. We can spin it all we like to make it about energy and "values" but it's identity politics plain and simple.

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I think I understand…McCain is going all in on the pity vote.

Q. Sen. McCain, how come you are so out of touch that you don’t know how many houses you own?

A. I was a POW.

Q. Gov. Palin, is it true that you want to overturn Roe v Wade and believe in Creationism?

A. I have a Down’s Syndrome Child.

The entire debate prep for these two will be how many ways can you deflect questions with these two answers.

It’s a no-brainer.

Literally.

If you believe we're all designed and you end up with a Down Syndrome child, what does that say about God and the ID argument?

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Christians don't do paradox, I've found.

You mean fundies.

We Catholics are ALL about paradox.

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...and they don't throw babies in the trash if they're not considered "perfect" by the rest of society.

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...and they don't throw babies in the trash if they're not considered "perfect" by the rest of society.

"what does that say about God and the ID argument?

It doesn't say anything. Who are you to define who is ok in the Almighty's eyes? I would say her down-syndrome baby has already contributed more to our existence than evil DubYa.

The Republican Squel: Mondale Ferraro 2

Thank you McCain for helping elect President Obama and Joe Biden.

You know what this is? This is McCain's Paris Hilton Argument: Round 2.

This is him saying, "Well, if you think Obama is experienced, then I guess you won't mind if I pick this little hottie". He's daring anyone to challenge her readiness, but he'll say that Obama isn't ready either, so what's the difference.

The Democrats have to challenge her. They have to do it respectfully, but incessantly. While Obama is 'inexperienced' compared to McCain, he's been on the national scene showing his judgement and competence. The American public has been measuring his readiness and ability for a full year now on a national level. Now McCain is introducing a former beauty pageant contestant with a thin resume, and saying, "b-b-but Obama..."

Watch out for this one. At it's very core, it reeks of misogyny. But there's an edge to it. This isn't so much about Hillary and her supporters as it is about Obama, and trying to define him. The cynicism of this pick is shocking, but surprisingly subtle. We can't be afraid of kneecapping her.

She pulled the change line. Now McCain is a catalyst for change, rather than a train for experience? Riight.

Not to mention she set up their campaign from this day forward as a reformist ticket. Against corruption? Keating Five, anybody?

I don't find this funny at all, really. I find it sad. I find it pathetic. I don't know why McCain would do this to himself, honestly.

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I thought God was first.

Hmmm, and not enough flag pins. Sorry McCain, you just lost my vote.

Paging, Hillary. Paging, Hillary. Put this girl in her place.

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And behind the golf clapping of the neoconservatives you can hear the rest of the country snickering and laughing all the way to the White House.

So...how long until we elect the guy who hasn't been doing his best impression of a freshly caught fish?

This move seems totally lame and transparently manipulative to me, but if I've learned anything over the last eight years, it's that the average American does not think like I do.

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I vote for Charlie Patton.

Awesome. one of my favs

You just won my respect, in a single sentence.

I second the vote for the masked marvel

Yea !!! Shows that McCain TOTALLY lacks sound judgment, is willing to put the U.S. in the hands of a nobody, with a real likelihood that @ 72 he could have stroke, cancer return, heart attack, etc., and the world is in the hands of a woman with five kids from a hick Alaska town. Wow, this should scare the crap out of everyone. McCain does not give a shit about the U.S. citizens.

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You guys are completely nuts!!! You are knocking McCain for his VP choice because she's a nobody with zero experience and she has as much if not more that the nobody you have chosen for your top spot. Completely nuts!!!

"as much if not more"

Yeah right. Obama has run a $500,000,000 organization that has employed tens of thousands and cooridinated several hundred thousand for about 18 months or so -- and has done so with a skill that is noteworthy even to political veterans. Palin has run Alaska (population smaller than Memphis, TN) for about the same length of time. Obama has been in public service at a national level for nearly four years, and at the state level of one of the largest (in population) states in the Union for eight years before that. That is 12 years of public service at a high level. Palin had a political patornage seat on a utilities commission for less than 24 months before her AK Governor gig started and was in government in a small town (population 6715 according to its website) for a few years before that. Nice try.

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"Obama has run a $500,000,000 organization that has employed tens of thousands and cooridinated several hundred thousand for about 18 months or so..." I think if he'd been the CEO of Microsoft we'd had known about it. He's "run" nothing. He's sat on a couple of boards (that he'd like ust to forget about because of who he served with) and headed a committee in the Senate that never held a hearing...you guys keep trying to boost eachother up...you're gonna need it.

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I'm more interested in judgement and integrity than "experience". I think it was defined most clearly when it was pointed out that Cheney is a very experienced political hand, more experience really than anyone running for President. Why isn't he running, why was there no outcry from the GOP faithful to have the VP run, as is customary? Too old? He's younger than McCain.

Experience doesn't automatically equate to good leadership or sound judgement. What matters more is integrity and intelligence. McCain has sold out and flip-flopped (remember when that mattered so much?) on so many issues to get the nomination that he's shown a distinct absence of integrity. His choice of Palin shows a lack of judgement at best and a dangerous cynicism at worst.

Just watched her speak.

Nice woman. Nice family. Absolutely unqualified.

This was a hail Mary and the ball has just bounced away in the grass.


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She will save McCain? Who will save her?

Not only is the selection of an inexperienced beauty queen as VP an insult to women, given the number of republican women with actual competence, it also reveals something about McCain. He needs to have someone much weaker than himself in the #2 spot. (Hi Cindy!) That's insecurity. It is a deep character flaw with this guy. It needs to be shown to the world.

Right on point, and a very astute point. Well done.

Very true. And let's say McCain wants to go all hothead on us in some foreign crisis. Is Sarah Palin going to be able to talk him back from the brink? I don't think so.

Contrast Obama's choice of an older, more experienced Vice and what that says about McCain's and Obama's characters.

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"Contrast Obama's choice of an older, more experienced Vice and what that says about McCain's and Obama's characters."
We already had the old and experienced blocks checked with our top slot.

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Just as much as the selection of an inexperienced 1/2 term Senator by your party, ahead of all of the other more qualified AA candidates shows the lack of jugement by ALL of you.

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I agree. Once McCain decided to choose woman for VP why didn't he choose someone who doesn't undermine his line of attack (experience and foreign policy) against Obama? Why not choose someone like Hutchinson or some other elder stateswoman?

She's hot but McCain must be joking?!

I'm really dumbfounded by this pick. She seems fine, but has all the gravitas of a H.S. principal.


I couldn't have said it better.

But a H.S. Principal would (I would hope), know how to pronounce "nuclear" -- she seemed unable to do so. "Nukular" -- yeeah.

There are Principals in this country who oversee more people than Palin did in Alaska.

My former Spanish teacher, Ms. Parks has more foreign policy experience than Palin. In the 10th grade she took a group of us to Spain for a week, and as we arrived at the airport to leave, had to negotiate with a series of customs agents when one of our group couldn't find his passport.

Really?

600,000 people is a pretty big school.

Let's not sit here and lie to each other to make ourselves feel good.

It just makes us look stupid.

A HS principal at a home school, maybe. Don't insult HS principals.

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O my god, it's just as I expected: she's as dumb as he is!

I'll ask this again - did I really die some time back? Is this really heaven?

I mean, we stood up this week and said in no uncertain terms that the Democrats have the judgment and the chops to run this country - something we haven't said like that since we got pulled off the moral high ground by Bill Clinton (sorry, Bill - I really wish you hadn't - but what's past is a void - it doesn't exist anymore, so you're forgiven -)

We regained our pride and literally roared like lions[ - that's why TDS' parody bio of Obama last night was so damn funny - they had Obama as the Lion King - it was one of the best things they've ever done. They poked fun at him but mostly at us, but I still have a sense of humor and found it utterly hilarious.]

How can Americans look at our ticket and then at the Repugs' and not see a whole hell of a lot more than a dime's worth of difference?

This just rocks.

You hit the nail on the head.

I am waiting to wake up or have a house fall on me or something, because this is just too good to be true.

When we rejoice over a dumb GOP ticket, we must also remember that their base actually LIKES it that way.

On the other hand, all Obama has to do is secure the Dem base, since it is larger than the GOP/Christianist base. And BINGO: it's President Obama, Vice President Biden.

And those two cute little girls playing with the Biden grandkids on the South Lawn. Can't bloody wait.

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...sorry, you will have to wait and hope they get invited to the Easter egg hunt hosted by Cindy and Sarah.

You are delusional if you think this is good news for us...absolutely delusional.

It stole all of the Thunder from Obama's speech.

She is like Americana personified, people.

She threw corrupt people from her own party out on their ass.

This is anything but good news.

Plus...have you seen the RNC convention layout?

It is obvious that McCain is going to do a town hall style acceptance speech.

The contrast will be very interesting.

They will talk about how the old man does not need a teleprompter, but the rookie Senator does...

If you think any of that is good news. Good luck to you...

Seriously, McCain has one foot in the grave and he picks this lady, whom I'm sure is nice to be the next in line?

Remember the McCain argument that Biden's strengths exposed Obama's weaknesses.

Apparently, McCain thinks he has no weaknesses.

hilarious. that's a good one.

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Looks like a losing ticket to me.


I was sweating that it would have been Tom Ridge.

This is really funny -

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/mccain-vp-conte.html

She can't be bothered to show up for the press conference announcing her as VP! She also dissed the job of VP recently, saying she thought it was pointless.

She's going to be real cooperative, I can tell.

John McCain has selected Tina Fey!

Tina fey has more experience then Palin.

I'll vote for Tina Fey in a heartbeat.

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O hell no! Tina Fey is smart and she believes in liberal values and I'd vote for her, too.


This woman is absolutely no Tina Fey.

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See my blog entry: McCain's veep is... Tina Fey?!?

I guess someone said "That 30 Rock is a real success " and he heard "Iraq is a real success".

Notice also how "30 Rock" guest star Tim Conway now looks a lot like McCain.

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/30-rock69.jpg

Hope that link works.

Hillary's Campaign:

We are like incumbents! -> We have experience to lead -> Look out! A threat! We will save you! -> Women support us more than the other guy! -> We're the real candidate of change! -> We stand up for working class americans -> Death.

McCain's Campaign:

We are like incumbents! -> We have experience to lead -> Look out! A threat! We will save you! -> Women support us more than the other guy! -> We're the real candidate of change! ...


Getting there, McCain, getting there.

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O my god, it's just as I expected: she's as dumb as he is!

I'll ask this again - did I really die some time back? Is this really heaven?

I mean, we stood up this week and said in no uncertain terms that the Democrats have the judgment and the chops to run this country - something we haven't said like that since we got pulled off the moral high ground by Bill Clinton (sorry, Bill - I really wish you hadn't - but what's past is a void - it doesn't exist anymore, so you're forgiven -)

We regained our pride and literally roared like lions[ - that's why TDS' parody bio of Obama last night was so damn funny - they had Obama as the Lion King - it was one of the best things they've ever done. They poked fun at him but mostly at us, but I still have a sense of humor and found it utterly hilarious.]

How can Americans look at our ticket and then at the Repugs' and not see a whole hell of a lot more than a dime's worth of difference?

This just rocks.

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Except for a couple of weeks in August, it's seemed like much of the McCain campaign is run by Obama moles.

Seriously, McCain has one foot in the grave and he picks this lady, whom I'm sure is nice to be the next in line?

Listening to Palin praising Ferraro and Clinton reveals this as such a transparent attempt at electioneering.

I am anxious to hear McCain explain why he passed on so many other more qualified candidates.

Country first, my ass.

Watch out. The MSM will give her the softest of soft rides. She will be the media darling. No tough questions for her.

So true, but then, McCain has had this privilege also. The only reason he is close in the polls is due to the MSM, and of course, the closet racists.

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I'm still surprised.

And I think the bigotry that would have prevented people from voting for Hillary Clinton, were she the nominee, will kick in for this pick.

Thanks for handing us the election, McCain! We won't be too hard on you Republicans when Obama is President. I would recommend helping us do something positive for the workers in this country though.

Anyone think AK could actually turn on this choice and vote even more strongly for Obama to save their beloved Governor from Washington and keep her in AK?

Listening to Palin praising Ferraro and Clinton reveals this as such a transparent attempt at electioneering.

I am anxious to hear McCain explain why he passed on so many other more qualified candidates.

Country first, my ass.

Paraphrasing Obama: Is this the best thing his opponent can come up with? A women who looks and sounds like a secretary, with an experience record that makes Obama look like a long time Washington veteran, with a charisma... well, no charisma. This is the "Odd couple" incarnated. It's just don't fit. This pick makes Romney look legitimate.

Honestly, are we been punk'd here? Is this the person who'll take over in the case McCain, a 73 year old cancer survivor, suddenly dies, will take the highest office of the land?

Ladies and gentlemen, the choice is clearer than ever... I stand more sure than before by my previous comment. A landslide is now possible. The gods are smiling at us. Now, the only thing left for the Obama-Biden ticket is not screwing this up, win the debates and use the ground game & money advantage. Today is a good day. I can't wait to see Hillary Clinton destroy Palin. I can't wait to see the RNC farce unfolding. I just can't wait.

Watch out. The MSM will give her the softest of soft rides. She will be the media darling. No tough questions for her.

I don't know. Seems like the collective reaction at this point is, "WTF?"

One off the MSNBC commentators just said that she was "lovely" but she will have a lot of work to do to match up to Biden.

Agree. McCain fucked up, period.

Debating against Biden, wow. I suppose it will be portrayed as Biden picking on the poor "female" or something.

I think Biden can handle this. He won't have to attack. He can just recite foreign and domestic policy facts till the cows come home while she talks about ... whatever she's qualified to talk about. Hockey, fishing? We'll see.

I think the question truly needs to be asked: if John McCain were to die after being elected, would we want Sarah Palin as our President? I know I wouldn't feel safe. Would you?

No,I wouldn't. I mean, who would??!!

Anyone think this could actually help us in AK?

Palin is very popular there, they may not want her to leave. Thus this could actually hurt McCain's chances there. I'll put that in the maybe pile.

sorry for the semi-double post. what's up with the comments today?

McCain: He was for experience before he was against it!

Who was she talking about changing the status quo sitting next John McCain??

Women, feminist, are overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat.


She's an anti feminist, that's nothing like Hillary Clinton.

Chuck Todd's comment on this is that it signifies that McCain as ceded the "experience" argument and is now trying to get on the "change" bandwagon.

Andrea Mitchell reports that McCain made the decision yesterday morning...

Hmm... I wonder.

Change...to....what?

What exactly does this woman stand for?

She appears to stand for whatever hardline conservatives suggest that she should stand for.

The only thing "mavericky" about this pick is that she's wildly unqualified for the position.

Which translates to: boneheaded.

Change to what?

My guess is change McCain is looking for is a change in the strategy he was using, because he's getting his ass kicked!!!


He just seems to have basically no strategy, doesn't he? React. Lash out. The whole thing seems totally random to me.

Ah well...glad I'm not Republican.

This is McCain's first presidential decision? A 72 year old candidate who has had cancer twice selects someone with zero foreign affairs experience. I'm flabbergasted at how bad of a decision this is.

She sounded like she was running for city council in her Minnie Mouse voice, but as bad as she was she managed to out do McCain, who gave possibly the worse speaking performance by a presidential candidate ever...ever. This is the weakest ticket I have ever seen in my entire life.

I was insulted that Palin compared herself to Hillary. Little miss "soccer mom" is definitely no Hillary Clinton.

This election is officially over. The GOP just looks completely desperate and empty.

I'm a mom, and no way I'm putting my children in danger by letting this woman possibly become president. OMFG!

Interesting what you're saying about her oratory. Over at the Corner, they're saying she's the best speaker in the whole race!

Who was she talking about changing the status quo sitting next John McCain??

Women, feminist, are overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat.


She's an anti feminist, that's nothing like Hillary Clinton.

Hillary needs to go out and eviscerate Palin and expose this whole thing for the blatant pandering it is.

From McCain's Press release:

Governor Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president.

HAR HAR HAR!

McCain: He was for experience before he was against it!

Ha! Obama already took the wind out of the apparent McCain/Palin slogan of "Country First" which are on all their signs:

One of the most memorable lines of Obama's speech last night...

"So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first."

Oops... time for a new slogan, STAT!

McCain: He was for experience before he was against it!

Given that Senator McCain's two main talking points, reasons why we should choose him over Senator Obama, have been experience and judgment, this would seem to take those arguments off the table.

I guess the new one will be "I have a woman on my ticket!". Gov. Palin may have just given us a hint of another one; in her speech this morning, she referred to Senator McCain as "John F. McCain".

Hillary needs to go out and eviscerate Palin and expose this whole thing for the blatant pandering it is.

From McCain's Press release:

Governor Palin is a tough executive who has demonstrated during her time in office that she is ready to be president.

HAR HAR HAR!

McCain: He was for experience before he was against it!

Ha! Obama already took the wind out of the apparent McCain/Palin slogan of "Country First" which are on all their signs:

One of the most memorable lines of Obama's speech last night...

"So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first."

Oops... time for a new slogan, STAT!

Tom Ridge would have been trouble. He was the best option.

Hillary's voters will not be attracted to a pro-life interloper who has not struggled, and has zero cred fighting for a woman's right to manage her own health.

This was a dumb pick. Campaigns are about narratives, and plopping this twinky in at the last minute makes a mockery of the GOP's argument that Obama is too inexperienced.

Add the trooper scandel (what's in the water in Alaska?) and this is just a horribly stupid pick. But she shore does make a nice couch cozy for McCain, dudn't she?

Her kids are named Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

No Ridge? No problem! Biden will debark her in debate.

Pax,
M.

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Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

Willow? Trig?

TRIG?

They're decent for pet names. As far as a human, though...uh...

Nuh uh!!

You're kidding us, right?

Oh...please...

Okay, I see now, they picked her as a set up for late night TV jokes. This is all just for entertainment value? Maybe just a way to draw airtime for McCain? A way to conserve their advertising dollars?

Geez, I don't know, I'm just grasping at straws here.

sounds like names of horses to me...

This is McCain's first presidential decision? A 72 year old candidate who has had cancer twice selects someone with zero foreign affairs experience. I'm flabbergasted at how bad of a decision this is.

She sounded like she was running for city council in her Minnie Mouse voice, but as bad as she was she managed to out do McCain, who gave possibly the worse speaking performance by a presidential candidate ever...ever. This is the weakest ticket I have ever seen in my entire life.

I was insulted that Palin compared herself to Hillary. Little miss "soccer mom" is definitely no Hillary Clinton.

This election is officially over. The GOP just looks completely desperate and empty.

I'm a mom, and no way I'm putting my children in danger by letting this woman possibly become president. OMFG!

See, if McCain had picked *Michael* Palin, then maybe I'd be intrigued.

See, if McCain had picked *Michael* Palin, then maybe I'd be intrigued.

Dumb, dumb move by the Obama campaign to mock the fact that she came from a small town. Fox News is already hitting them for it; if the MSM and/or McCain campaign really pick that up and run with it, it could have shades of Bittergate.

I could not disagree more. They hit her right.

I do not agree.

You are still caught in the reactive spotlight.

Obama's speech last night was a clear call that he would be taking over now. And that means proaction.

It means speaking the Truth regardless of the risk. The Obama camp statement is fair game. This was a lousy pick.

Pax,
M.

Don't be stupid. They didn't mock her for being from a small town. They mocked her because her only prior experience was being mayor of a small town.

Fox is just doing the necessary "We're at war with Eastasia, we've always been at war with Eastasia" mental adjustment necessary now that McCain's decided experience isn't important.

No. Not many people pay attention to Fox anymore, and those that do are almost exclusively the unwavering GOP supporters. No independents watch it. Check the ratings and demos.

Fox will spin it for their idiot echo chamber residents, but everyone else in the universe will read it exactly the way the Obama camp said it: it's not about "being from a small town," as you put it. It's about being mayor of that town, and now governor of one of the "smallest" states, being her only "experience." Quote in case you want to read it again:

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."

Nobody but dead-enders will even try to spin that into anything but what it is. It's way too simple a statement.

Those who were worried that Obama was too internationalist and not "American" enough may look with a more loving eye on his international experience, interests, and orientation in comparison to the mayor of whatever the fuck that place is called.

Finished watching her speak. Can't stand the voice. Sounded like a mom speaking at a PTA meeting. Weird image with her next to Grandpa Munster. This is what a losing ticket looks like. Praised Hillary Clinton. This is a naked attempt to peel off Hillary voters. Won't work.

Ok, I'm not Martin Scorsese here - but here is my brief McCain/Palin campaign video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12WcjS1SG3g

HAHA! So great! Thanks for that *favorites*

Given that Senator McCain's two main talking points, reasons why we should choose him over Senator Obama, have been experience and judgment, this would seem to take those arguments off the table.

I guess the new one will be "I have a woman on my ticket!". Gov. Palin may have just given us a hint of another one; in her speech this morning, she referred to Senator McCain as "John F. McCain".

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Today, John McCain put [someone] with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Dunno if the Obama campaign should go there.  He's kinda thin of foreign-policy experience himself.  Better to let the media do that work for him.  So far, they seem eager enough to do it.

Obama is on the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee. The End.

Hello, again.

I wish the dems could successfully present the foreign policy issue in terms of experience _and_ knowledge. Let's sit Palin down for a quick pop-quiz: what is the difference between Sunni and Shia? etc.

Obama has spent nearly two years building up a foreign policy advising team. There is a solid infrastructure in place. Also, he has carefully studied and thought about central foreign policy issues. He has an excellent knowledge of the Middle East. This has to count for something. I think we make a mistake if we lump Palin and Obama together on issues of 'experience.'

Given that Senator McCain's two main talking points, reasons why we should choose him over Senator Obama, have been experience and judgment, this would seem to take those arguments off the table.

I guess the new one will be "I have a woman on my ticket!". Gov. Palin may have just given us a hint of another one; in her speech this morning, she referred to Senator McCain as "John F. McCain".

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Her kids are named Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

I am utterly speechless.


This is an offensive pick. She brings nothing but punchlines.

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Obama is going to pick off this hail mary and run it all the way back for another TD as he piles up the score.

Tena, that is TOO funny !!!

Latest Gallup poll out
Obama 49 (+1)
McCain 41 (-1)

So far a 10 point bounce, with still some ways to count.

The GOP may be sorry they tried to set expectations at 15%.

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While the attempt to woo PUMAs seems to be the obvious reason for Palin, there's another voter that McCain is making a subtle but powerful pitch to: the guy who chooses his candidate on the basis of whether he wants to have a beer with him or not. Only in this case, this voter will want to have considerably more than a beer with the former beauty pageant queen.

Patim looks like a PTA mom made goods. The GOPs are toast...

"Mccain's pick is a stroke of genius". MSM will love this race. Biden will risk looking like a bully in the debate. Focus on McCain, just ignore her, don't even bother using her name.

Patim looks like a PTA mom made goods. The GOPs are toast...

Someone Who Named Her Son "Track" Is "Heartbeat Away From Presidency"

Truly amazing. McCain spends a year telling us it is all about experience, and stoking fears that Obama is not ready to lead in a world full of complicated threats. And he picks Palin as VP. Got some 'splainin' to do, I'd say.

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Today, John McCain put [someone] with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Dunno if the Obama campaign should go there.  He's kinda thin of foreign-policy experience himself.  Better to let the media do that work for him.  So far, they seem eager enough to do it.

Obama is on the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee. Biden presides that committee. The end.

Our talking points.

Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

The rest doesn't make a difference. She thinks the same as McCain.

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Today, John McCain put [someone] with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Dunno if the Obama campaign should go there.  He's kinda thin of foreign-policy experience himself.  Better to let the media do that work for him.  So far, they seem eager enough to do it.

The worst decision in the history of Presidential campaign. Feraro redux 2.

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Andrea Mitchell compared the Biden-Palin debate as a possible replay of Clinton-Lazio during hillary's Senate run.

She overlooks Biden's natural charm when he needs to turn it on, as opposed to Lazio, who was dumb as a brick and couldn't charm his own mother.

What type of drugs are they passing out over at MSNBC?

Oh, and I concur with everyone - this was a cheap, dumb panic move by McCain, and Palin brings nothing but a bit of appeal to the Wingnut Base.

Wasn't McCain supposed to have had the wingnut vote in the bag by this time? Their internal polls must be really, really bad.

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I didn't see it but I suspect she meant Obama as Hillary and Palin as Lazio. Which would be about right since Lazio came off as a fratboy idiot and Hillary came off as cool and professional.

Andrea Mitchell has been pretty hard on the McCain campaign at times, even saying point blank that they lied about Obama canceling meeting with the wounded troops in Iraq because he couldn't have cameras there. "I was there!" she practically shouted. "He was never going to bring a camera crew."

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oops - I meant Biden as Hillary. Sorry!

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Reeks of desperation. Though she is very pretty.

Maybe she was the only candidate they could find who was shorter than McCain (I'm very short, so I can say that).

Sounded like the chair of the PTA. I just don't think this one is gonna' click.

Loved the way McCain "hovered" over her during her speech. I'm sure he has a lot of confidence in her.

Also, like those "body language" experts who were so diligent in assessing the Democrats, did anyone else pick up on Palin's effort to keep physical space from McCain?


In a way, I almost want to give McCain a little credit here for not ruining the career of anyone by picking them for his loser ticket. At least this won't hurt her in her rise from mayor of a town of 9,000 people to governor of a state with only a few more than that to whatever is next on her trajectory: spokesperson for Field & Stream, perhaps -- since the RedStaters are in such euphoria about her stalking and angling pastimes?

6,715. Don't round up.

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Anyone want to re-examine that AP "scoop" on McCane's medical records?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0508/AP_got_the_jump_on_medical_records.html

Consider in light of the subsequent "friendliness" AP has shown McCain. He steamrolled the press coverage of his medical records, insuring a positive spin. What was he trying to hide?

Chances are pretty good VP Palin would become President Palin inside of four years.

I think the net effect of this will be a significant rise in Hillary's stock. Ironically, McCain's selection of a woman in attempt to co-opt disaffected Hillary supporters, is going to give Hillary more power in the Obama camp going forward. Obama is going to need her more now. I don't necessarily like that, but I think that is how it will play out.

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And your scenario is just as plausible as any other 200 scenarios I can think up. But I tell you what - Obama keeps surprising me - in very good ways.

I think all y'all who have it all mapped for him are so funny. You don't get him at all - I think I do now. He is not as nice as he looks, when it comes down to it. He's a hustler - he's hustled the fuck out of McLame, the Repugs, the media - including the alternative media, and a bunch of liberals.


Anyhow, that's how I see it. Everyone sells him short - and he does that on purpose.

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I know something - I bet I know who said "No."

Fluffy Hutchison.

Betcha anything!

Indeed, I think Romney was gonna be it, he had a secret service detail assigned, then dropped out after the last night's speech. Then he asked Hutchinson, who also said "no", then it was down to Palin.

Romney and Hutchinson wanted to stay electable and didn't want to be any part of a losing ticket.

Totally. My husband and I were just talking about that.

He needed a woman on the ticket - and even though there's rumors out there that they don't like each other, you'll never convince me that he didn't approach her first. I think this may be the first time I can honestly say that Hutchison made a smart decision.

While I'm appalled at the transparency of this tactic, I ask ya'll please please please do not underestimate the power of it. Writing Palin off as hokey, small-town, out of touch, or inexperienced will not help Obama's campaign. Especially due to her popularity among blue-collar voters. Biden is going to have his hands full battling her for their votes. We will be painted as misogynists if we don't use the kid gloves here. Judging by even MSNBC's reporting right after her acceptance speech, she'll be a media darling. This is where the ground campaign and issues attacks are more and more vital. This is McCain's version of a rope-a-dope, and I pray we don't fall for it.

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I think yours is the 6th unfamiliar handle I've seen so far today with a worried comment attached to it.

Gee, I wonder what's going on?

Yeah! These folks are arguing that dumb+dumb = less dumb. I avoid dumber and dumbest, but reserve their use!

Tena -

I just don't post that often. I promise if you look at my profile, I am far from a concern troll and have been a member for quite some time, though I understand your doubts. I'm a true blue Austin, TX Dem recently transplanted to NYC. Kirk Watson's my man and it pained me to watch him stumble on the national scene. I voted for Chris Bell not Kinky last election.

Now that I've attempted to prove my "cred", I just had a sinking feeling today. It's fading... slowly... but I figured this was the best place to share it.

Thanks,
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Thanks for letting us know what your strategy is going to be from here on out- the mysogyny card.

Did McCain give you a free waffle iron for this post?

"Her popularity among blue-collar voters?"

I doubt very many people beyond a harpoon's distance from her igloo had the slightest freaking idea that she was even alive before this morning! Is her particular ice floe uniquely overpopulated with blue collar voters?

Need to get Obama and Biden's statement up on the front page.

I can't recite it, but it was very respectful. Pitch perfect.

Yep! Perfect pitch gets it! But this helps: "Alaska legislators on Monday voted to spend up to $100,000 to investigate Gov. Sarah Palin's controversial firing of former state Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan."
Stay tuned ,more to show up..........

Are they seriously saying she could hold her own against real threats to our security like Russia and China?

This decision really shows how out of it McCain is and how they care more about winning than they do protecting our country. There is no way this woman could be put a heatbeat away from the presidency. And it's going to be Biden's job to get that across to the country. Pat her on the head and send her home, she is way out of her league.

John McCain has lost all credibity with his first presidential decision.

On NPR this morning someone from Politico and "our very own" Jack Beady (sp) were calling McButtwart's decision "brilliant." Depending on how things pan out I think his decision is somewhere between canny and absurd.

I mean, it could be clever because the republicans are desperate and are looking for a blank slate to define as they please, but maybe McSwinger just thinks she's hot.

Wasn't Cindy a beauty queen as well?

I was a POW. Now take your clothes off.

Dang.

"the choice...should render McCain's primary campaign argument...not just moot, but a running joke among political reporters and pundits alike"

When will you wake up, Greg? Once Fox keeps hammering home the idea that this pick is simply the most mavericky choice ever, and brilliant in its stupidity, by Sunday the Cokies, Georges (Will and Stephanopoulos), and E.J dionnes of the world will be praising this pick to the heavens.

Oh yes. The Maverick strikes again. Wait a minute. I thought the Repubs hated him for his Maverickness.

I tkink of it as "daring do do"

I'm voting for her. I want her to go to the Buckingham and Elysée palaces and the Vatican and introduce her family by name. I want to see foreign leaders struggling to keep a straight face.

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Hmmm...looks like she's been places overseas Mr. Obama hasn't...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Pre-gubernatorial_political_experience
"Palin visits a wounded soldier in Landstuhl, Germany, July 2007"

But she didn't forget to bring along the photojournalists though. Isn't that what the GOP was huffing about a few weeks ago -- that Obama was trying to use the visit as a photo op?

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Nope...that he didn't go if it couldn't be a photo op.

Palin fun fact: At 674,000 citizens, Memphis, TN is more populous than Alaska (670,000 citizens). I wonder how people would be reacting if McCain had nominated a first-term mayor of Memphis who had been in office less a total of about 19 months? Sort of takes the shine off of the GOP "executive experience" claim, no?

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...you guys are hillarious...she has as much if not more experience than your top choice...

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Oh, come on, that is completely false. I think that palin was a shrewd pick on mcbush's part, but give me a break, she doesn't have near the experience of obama. Mcbush made a decision that the experience thing wasn't going to fly so he wants to get into an ideological war with dems. I still think palin was a very, very shrewd pick. Dems better be careful in how they go after her, if at all. It really isn't necessary, because she has no experience, which will be a given. I'd pretty much ignore her if I was the dems.

McCain has totally undermined the central message of his campaign, while also taking identity politics and cynical pandering to a whole new low. While Obama picked a VP that would make his ticket and the country stronger, and provide for an able president if something were to happen to him, John McCain chose winning a political campaign above what is best for this country. It is reckless, and putting a true amateur a heartbeat (or stroke) away from controlling the country puts the country in danger. His campaign is over:

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/08/mccains-shocking-choice-for-vp-sarah.html

Not to mention it is incredibly offensive to women, and to Sarah Palin herself, for McCain to have picked his VP solely on gender, and fully expecting women all over the country to support him because of her gender. Its shameless. Politics at its worst.

Clueless to the concept of irony the Oilbama team is trying to attack Palin’s “paltry” experience. They did this with a straight face. Did anyone think to check Barack Obama’s resume? As the media starts asking questions of Palin, which they have refused to ask of Oilbama, the discrepancy will become apparent and Oilbama will
find himself in the spotlight. If the standard applies to Palin it must apply to Oilbama, Palin actually knows something about balancing a budget, getting the streets fixed, getting the trash picked up, and going after corrupt politicians and lobbyists.
Oilbama? Hell, he funneled money to the likes of Tony Rezko and did nothing to ensure that constituents in his district living in sub-standard housing were protected. And Barack’s one foray into “management” as the lackey of Bill Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge will be shown to have been a corrupt, insider trading scheme in which he helped steer money to cronies and ignored genuine education reform. That’s why is campaign is fighting so viciously to keep the media from looking at that part of his cuddling with unrepentant terrorist, Bill Ayers.

What's fun about this is that the Republican campaign probably thought they'd steal some of Obama's fire and damp down the strong positive message from last night by crowding the same news cycle space with this announcement. Once everybody gets over their first few seconds of incredulity, it only makes Obama and his ticket that much more astounding and formidable. In an effort to steal fire they self-immolate - it's not a distraction in their favor; it reinforces the perception of Obama's obvious superiority.

My take on the Palin VP pick is that it's another major example of how "unstable" McCain has become. He spends months attacking Obama for not being experienced enough and then chooses a totally inexperienced person for his VP running mate. Along with being more evidence that McCain's a flip-flopper it strongly suggests he's an "unstable" geezer on the verge of flipping out.

To paraphrase JFK, apparently John McCain decided that experience is overrated.

So she must be dumb on the basis of an acceptance speech you heard..you've never met or spoken to her and sure as hell you haven't checked out her resume or her policy positions on anything but you have decided on the basis of what she looked and sounded like that she must be dumb.. if thats all the evidence you need ..hmmmm

For a woman to buy into stereotypes is most offensive especially as I am pretty sure you pride yourself as a feminist.

A little respect for an opponent might be a good start.. how abt really listening and practising what Obama has to say ...like respect for an opposing point of view and people who have a different belief system.
That's what I hate most about this new democratic alliance...those who don't agree with us must be stupid ,uneducated or orrupt..intolerance..that used to be the bushies .
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I have seen so much hypocrisy on these blogs today.

It is quite shocking, actually.

Going after Sarah Palin in this way is the first mistake the Obama campaign made related to this.

"Zero" is immediately offensive to women everywhere. She is a mother of 5, for one. The "Zero" is already being taken out of context and will be used just like Obama uses the silly $5 million comment and the 100 year comment.

You would think that the Obama campaign would be smarter than to use language like that.

Get ready, because Palin's acceptance speech will go something like this:

"Barack Obama says I have ZERO experience...

Well let's examine that, shall we?

How many businesses has Barack Obama run? ZERO
How many cities has Barack Obama run? ZERO
How many states has Barack Obama run? ZERO
How many corrupt politicians has Barack Obama taken down? ZERO
How many meetings did Barack Obama convene on Afghanistan? ZERO
How many pieces of major legislation has Barack Obama authored since arriving in the US Senate? ZERO
How many times did Barack Obama visit Iraq in 2007? ZERO
How many times did Barack Obama visit Iraq in 2006? ZERO
How many times did Barack Obama visit Iraq in 2005? ZERO
How many times did Barack Obama visit Afghanistan before this July? ZERO

How many children has Barack Obama raised while holding Executive Office of any kind? ZERO

How many Executive Positions has Barack Obama ever held? ZERO.

...so who has ZERO experience Senator Obama?"


you see how this is going to go...

It will be quite effective. We stepped in it big time...

Really?

600,000 people is a pretty big school.

Let's not sit here and lie to each other to make ourselves feel good.

It just makes us look stupid.

Beauty contest participants are the least of John McCain's problems. I think the first time John McCain calls Mrs. Palin a C***, she will kick him in the appropriate place. How a woman so involved with a very conservative church could stand to campaign with smut mouthed McCain is interesting. What a combo. McCain always bragging about his wonderful life story (remember Keating 5, his bad language noted 22 times and his complete lack of caring concern for his first wife) and Palin with her far right Church experience. Gonna be an interesting run up to the election. I trust Ms. Palin has he slapping hand handy.

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