Obama Campaign Mapping Out Aggressive Counter-Attack Against Swift-Boating
In stark contrast with the Kerry campaign in 2004, the Obama campaign is mapping out an aggressive counter-attack against the new Swift-Boat-Vet style book targeting Obama -- including plans to dig more deeply into the author's past statements, plans for increased surrogate action against the book, and stepped up pressure on high-level media executives to let the Obama team have air time to rebut the charges.
The plan is taking shape amid new signs that the book -- by Jerome Corsi, who wrote the tome that formed the basis for the attacks on Kerry -- will have staying power and become a real factor in the campaign.
We've just learned, for instance, that the Corsi book, called Obama Nation, will be number one on the New York Times best seller list two weeks running, according to an early copy of the list from the Sunday after next we obtained. It was previously known that it would debut at number one this weekend, but the fact that it will stay there for a second week running suggests the attacks will continue to resonate.
We've also learned that a second anti-Obama tome -- The Case Against Barack Obama, by David Freddoso -- will also debut at number five on the best-seller list the week after next.
Obama advisers say that whenever they hear that Corsi has been booked for an appearance on a network program, they are quickly contacting the program's producers to rebut the book's charges in phone conversations and giving them a whole run-down of past Corsi quotes that are controversial.
Obama aides also vow to insist that the producers allow them to have on a campaign surrogate to attack the charges, and are expecting to recruit more campaign surrogates, well plied with talking points, to push back against the book.
Obama aides also say they'll soon be blasting an extensive fact-check of the book to the campaign's national press list. They've also created something called "Action Wire," which is designed to use the campaign's formidable email list to spread debunking of the book's charges.
Obama Camp Knows Media Will Cover Book No Matter What
It's way too early to know whether such a counter-campaign will be successful or whether the push-back will be effective or sufficiently forceful. But the mere fact that the Obama campaign is planning an aggressive counter-attack suggests differences with Kerry's early approach.
Indeed, the planning reflects an uncomfortable reality for the Obama camp: They realize that the book, and any ensuing GOP attacks in its wake, are certain to continue to get extensive media coverage.
"Despite the fact that Mr. Corsi has no credibility, we understand the reality that its going to get covered, and are going to aggressively work to make sure people understand that this is nothing more than a rehash of already debunked lies," an Obama campaign adviser says.
In 2004, when the Swift Boat Vets first targeted Kerry, a debate erupted within his camp over whether it was better to ignore the book or to immediately strike back against it and bring it more attention. Early on, Kerry advisers chose the former path.
Obama advisers have concluded, however, that there's little to no chance that ignoring the book will deprive it of media oxygen. They are trying to strike the right balance, going on the offensive against the book without sparking even more media attention than it's getting already.
To that end, much of the pushback against the book is being done behind the scenes, through the dissemination of controversial quotes from Corsi's past and the planned extensive fact check.
Will it be enough? With Corsi already on record saying that he plans to collaborate with conservative groups to run ads, we'll soon find out.















I wish that, in addition to the blaring "#1 on the NY Times booklist" theme I keep hearing, that someone in the publishing industry would point out which portion of those sales are bulk sales, rather than individual sales.
August 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
True. From the reports that have gone out, it appears that a large portion of people are buying in bulk and sitting on the book. Screams of an attempt to make the book seem more of a seller than it is.
August 14, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This bulk sale trick is what the Church of Scientology used to put L. Ron Hubbard's pulp sci-fi novels on the bestseller lists years after his death. It's a scam, pure and simple, and should be described as such, loudly and clearly.
Why is the conservative movement borrowing a scam from the playbook of Scientology?
August 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are book club sales included in bulk sales, or are those counted separately?
I know a lot of these books get sent to GOP-trash-of-the-month club members.
August 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
One borrows a scam because it works. Plain and simple.
August 14, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't that what the winger organizations do - buy the books in bulk and give the books away to members?
August 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly CT Voter! Covering hip Hop for the last 18 years, I've noticed that its common practice for a record company to buy an artists' CD in bulk just to say that the record went platinum - a publicity stunt to sell records to actual consumers. The same thing is happening here.
August 14, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
As someone who was involved in the music industry all the way back to the Seventies, I'll vouch for what you're saying here.
Back in the day when there were brick and mortar record stores, record companies wouldn't even bother with bulk buys - they'd just ship millions of copies of an album to the stores and use those numbers to trumpet what a hit the record was.
I know for a fact that Atlantic did this with Foreigner 4 (shipped 3 million copies) - and never mentioned that nearly 40% of what they shipped got sent back two weeks after they shipped them out. The term 'shipped platinum' was enough to start a buzz.
Back on point - I'm glad to see that obama's team is taking this more seriously than Kerry's did. Depending upon who they get to go out and rebut, they could end up doing real damage to Corsi and his slime-merchantry. Let's hope.
August 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, that explains "Jukebox Hero"....
August 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously.
August 14, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
and more recently those tactics of using shipping numbers instead of actual sales numbers to distort reality were/are used to make dubious claims about declining 'sales' due to filesharing.
August 14, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
God, I wish this could be used to explain Tha Carter III's success, but at 2 X platinum, I guess I have to concede that Lil Wayne is for real.
August 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
Sorry.
Saw people younger than me discussing music artists I'd never heard of and had an overwhelming compulsion to say that, buy some pants that come up past my navel and look into the benefits of AARP membership.
August 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Surely you remember Journey, Steve. >
August 14, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo. Bulk sales was the key word there.
August 14, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The netroots is a good place to aggressively push the fact that these books' "bestseller" status is total bullshit. This needs to be repeated alot to break through to the MSM. It'll be difficult, since it's basically an attack on the New York Times. Does anybody have a good link that distills this argument and collects the documentation?
August 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
You stole the words out of my mouth.
On the whole, the MSM coverage has been an order of magnitude better than the coverage of the Swift Liars--things like pointing out obvious lies and calling them lies, and even explaining that the "best seller debuts" are being driven by purchases by conservative book clubs.
What they're not doing is actually explaining how the "conservative 'best-seller'" pump and dump scam works." These so-called book clubs buy a buttload more of the next official "best seller" than they know they can possibly sell, thereby pumping up the best-seller number. Once the hype has run its course, they turn their mountains of unsold books back in to the publisher, collect their refunds and no one ever notices that the book didn't really do that great at retail.
I'm not saying it won't sell at all. Serious wingnuts luvs, luvs, luvs them some big books full of shit they think they already know. But there are not--and have never been--enough of them to turn these screeds into real, as apposed to simulated, best sellers.
August 14, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Bulk Sales - this is obviously an issue as indicated by the dagger beside the book, as listed on the NYT Bestseller list (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/books/bestseller/besthardnonfiction.html)
"A dagger (†) indicates that some bookstores report receiving bulk orders." (see end of report)"
Interestingly, Morris' attack book, Fleeced, has the same dagger ... as does Tori Spelling's book :).
August 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is mentioned in the Larry King interview.
I think Larry did a service to our cause by being appropriately aggressive with Corsi - who get bitch-slapped in the first few minutes for his anti-Semitic remarks.
All other interviewers will see how Larry handled him. And how the interview management effectively enabled Corsi's antagonist to juxtapose devastating observations and analysis.
August 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've gotten the impression from this and other threads that Greg Sargent does not understand the concept of bulk sales, which, for a Dem blogger in 2008, is astonishing.
Has anyone her at TPM read any books by authors like, oh,
Eric Alterman? David Brock?
Jeezuz H...
August 14, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
also, I'd like to see James Carville go on the networks to rebutt his wife's role in the publishing of such garbage!
August 14, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Might I suggest you not hold your breath? The book sales are fattening their bank accounts, and Carville knew who he married years ago.
http://strategy08.wordpress.com
August 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's one thing to disagree with your spouse about supply-side economics or gun-control, but good grief....I just don't know if I could have any respect for my husband if he was involved with such slimy, gutter crap.
August 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that hound dog won't leave this whore after she's put out this disgusting trash, we should make sure he gets no more attention or work from our end of political reality - that is, from the end where politics and reality are on speaking terms.
August 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do you prove a negative?
August 14, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
make it about fredoso and corsi.
I know it's what the wingnuts would do, but it seems to be the only way to make it stick. As long as people have any respect for these two, and aren't embarrassed to quote them, the attacks will have traction.
August 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
In this case making it about the authors isn't dirty -- because it is the story. When the author of a book is not credible, his or her book is not credible. Pure and simple.
And Corsi is anything but credible.
August 14, 2008 11:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
TPM should stop dwelling on the best-seller status of these books. Hasn't anyone associated with this site read David Brock's books?
Right-wing foundations and think-tanks buy up huge quantities of these books for the purpose of getting them on the bestseller lists. Without this kind of scheming these books would not garner nearly as much public attention.
August 14, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've read Brock's book, The Republican Noise Machine, and his site Media Matters has a clip of MM's Fellow Paul Waldman taking on Corsi, and Corsi basically accuses Waldman of making ad hominem attacks upon him.
http://mediamatters.org/embed/larryking-20080813-corsi?f=h_top
August 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
O/T: I very much enjoyed your post on the New York piece on the Obama marriage....
August 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the majority of the MSM tongue wagging about the book is simply an attempt to stir the pot. Knowing that every time they rehash the book's allegations the Obama camp has to respond, the purveyors of non-content get to seem like they're part of the "discussion".
August 14, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it's sickening how often the traditional media run "Can you believe how ridiculous this ad/book/smear is?"-type stories.
August 14, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
P.S. Will NBC continue to have Mary Matalin on Meet the Press???
(Obviously, I know what the answer to that question is! The point is that she should not be invited back again.)
August 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think one difference between this attack on Obama and the attack on Kerry was that the issue of the Swiftboats was a new topic and Kerry had a very mild, short-lived primary battle. From what of seen on these Obama books is that they're rehashing topics that have been gone over rather thoroughly in the media before or during the primary season. That is one reason why McCain has been able to keep the race close, but the people that this stuff was going to work on have already been swayed. Like the celebrity meme, McCain just isn't going to get much if any bump out it all. If anything McCain will end up being tainted with Corsi, further eroding his image.
August 14, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do you prove a negative?
By exposing the disseminator as a fraud and prevaricating huckster, at the least.
August 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"By exposing the disseminator as a fraud and prevaricating huckster, at the least."
That's my gut feeling as well, I think that the Obama campaign should completely decimate that gutless smear merchant Jerome Corsi. Totally fucking kneecap the messenger.
August 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It may be made easier by the fact that Corsi is a real slimeball personally. Check out Media Matters on his postings -- anti-semitic slurs, anti-Arab slurs, severely homophobic. If just one publicity-hungry Russert-wannabe can be goaded into confronting him with this stuff, the whole game could be over.
August 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it will work this time. "Swift Boating," has entered into the American languange and equates to, "To lie, mislead and twist facts in order to win elections via character assasination."
This guy, Corsi, is THE orignal Swift Boater. Therefore he is THE liar. People know this.
Can we hope that the 2004 election immunized the American Public to this kind of nonsense?
Then again, politicians rarely lose by betting on the stupidity of the American public.
August 14, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember Adlai Stevenson's famous words about getting the vote of every thinking man: "Yes but I need a majority"
August 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Swiftboat Politics: NOT THIS TIME!
August 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
while 'swiftboating' has indeed entered the language, i believe most folks just think it means 'tough politics' or 'hitting below the belt' (a little dirty, but inevitably still part of a fair fight).
August 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to see how that definition plays out along party lines. Don't know too many Dems that would go for your rather mild connotation.
August 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect you are correct, at least for one portion of the population.
One of the things that gives me hope is to see some of the evangelicals insist on a more civil, sane conversation this time around. Many evangelicals will still vote GOP for reasons that are important to them, but there seems to be a more mature focus on the issues, the role of government, and the disastrous results of 'false prophets'.
Here's a good link for anyone who's interested in taking a look:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/progressiverevival/2008/08/pavlovian-premillennialism.html
August 14, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama campaign needs to link this book to the McCain campaign, forcing him to either denounce it or give up his sainthood.
August 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the majority of the MSM tongue wagging about the book is simply an attempt to stir the pot.
For sure. The frightening aspect of all this is just how much the Media has become a political antagonizer and has given itself the power to shape people's thoughts and attitudes towards the cadidates and the political process itself. We are treading on dangerous ground.
August 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The bulk sales issue is important. Without the pumped up bulk sales this book probably wouldn't make the to 500. My guess is it is going to end up in discount bins near you real soon.
I would like to see who bought the book in large numbers. Maybe we should boycott. Make the smear machine pay for its wingnut welfare program.
August 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The buyers are "book clubs" that are fronts for the right-wing publishers. There's no one to boycott, and the books end up in a dumpster, not in a remainder bin.
A better tactic would be to pressure the NYT not to include books with "bulk sales" in their bestseller list at all. They already mark them specially, so it's clear they know. If they did this, all the right-wing phony "bestsellers" would disappear from any kind of coverage, and the world would be a better place.
Yeah, the wingnuts will howl, but when have they not howled at the NYT? Bulk buying is gaming the system, and the Times should understand that it undermines their credibility to give support and publicity in return for cheating.
August 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a great idea. Spread far and wide.
August 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
...or we could just burn all the right-wing books...and denounce anyone who protests as a heretic!
August 14, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
See my comment on phony First Amendment claims.
You may be the only person who could lose an argument to a straw man.
August 14, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's no First Amendment claim if it's just a bunch of crazed tollerent progressives burning the books... The Constitution protects us from the government...not the left.
August 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I predicted that you right-wingers would react with phony First Amendment arguments.
You have so far achieved the phony argument part since wanting the NYT to correctly state book sales is obviously nothing like burning books or right-wingers. Nice try, though.
It's also nice that you stick around here to confirm our stereotypes about conservative intelligence.
August 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like I said...it's obviously not my intelec that is deficient, since you are the one who doesn't seem to grasp the concept that no one here can deprive anyone of their First Amendment rights. Therefore, no First Amendment argument has been made. However, there are plenty of fanatics here who I'm sure would gladly sponsor a bonfire with this book as fuel and not many of which would dive in the flames to save Mr. Corsi if he happened to "fall" on top of the pile. It is interesting though how many of you appear to have read the book, since you obviously know everything in it, maybe it's on the Best Seller list because of y'all...now that would be funny.
August 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
How much money do you want to bet that some right-winger will make a defense of Jerome Corsi in which they make a bogus First Amendment argument?
That is what I said would happen. I'm not somehow claiming that free speech is going to be abridged here at TPM.
August 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Game, set, match.
Nicely done.
August 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
sfcw is right, book burnings have nothing to do with the first amendment unless they are organized by the government.
although sfcw's book burning bit is something of a straw man (even though boycotting and book burning aren't so far apart), it isn't a 'phony first amendment argument'.
August 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
and to be fair, sfcw wasn't really making an argument so much as he was mocking. so even 'straw man' isn't really apt.
August 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but it's important to buy the books before you burn them. Which would inflate the "best seller" aspect further. You don not want to burn them while they're still stacked up in the bookstore.
However, there's nothing saying you shouldn't make clear to any bookstore giving prime display space to this book that you will never shop there again. Point out that it doesn't look good for them to join in an attempt to stir up a lynch mob for a black man, all based on lies.
August 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
>...or we could just burn all the right-wing >books...and denounce anyone who protests as a >heretic!
>Posted by SFCWallace
Books Burn!
Heretics Burn!
We all know what the penalty for Heresy was.
These are the actions of a Religious Zealot.
Therefore you are calling for Violent action against people that purchased this Book.
Isn't Incitement to Violence Illegal?
So you don't feel able to compete in the Marketplace of Ideas without doing Violence to those that disagree with you?
Typical Liberal Debating style:
If you can't argue the Issues,
Call your opponent Names,
If that Doesn't work,
Silence him by threatening his children,
If that doesn't work,
Murder him and his Children.
That'll Shut him Up!
Or were you just trying to be Sarcastic?
August 14, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
After the name calling you should have "swing to the far right"
August 14, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
SwedeBoy, SFC Wallace is a conservative and is being sarcastic. You obviously didn't get it.
August 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's been mentioned a couple of times on previous threads, but the guy from Media Matters did a fantastic job last night on Larry King debating this Corsi guy. Any surrogate that Obama sends out should watch the tape and study up.
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=EE33879BA3E14A1DCC01F15D860944D4?diaryId=7503
August 14, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I jsut watched the entire clip. Thanks for posting it.
If Obama's team isn't considering enlisting Paul Waldman as one of the people to rebut this swill, they should. He was unflappable, on point, and telegenic. Corsi didn't stand a chance.
August 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link. I hope he is confronted like that every where he goes.
August 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Corsi is a nutter. I think going after Matalin and even Simon and Schuster here for giving an mentally unstable man such a platform. Matalin even defended her reason for printing it by saying it's a "a piece of scholarship, and a good one at that."
I'd even consider launching a lawsuit if there would be a case to be made. It's not like it's going to give it any more free publicity then it already is. Maybe if you target S&S and Matalin's pocketbooks them might think twice next time.
Corsi likes any publicity he gets, Matalin and especially S&S will not like the negative publicity nearly as much. Smear Corsi as the nutter he is, paint Matalin as tried and true Republican who deeply supports Cheney and S&S as opportunists trying to make a buck by any means necessary.
Why not organize a third party boycott S&S books?
August 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, boycott Simon & Schuster!
Even better, let's contact all of their editors and show up at their authors' events and ask how they like sharing the S&S stable with liars and hacks like Jerome Corsi and Mary Matalin.
Stephen King? Frank McCourt? Stephen Ambrose? David Maraniss of WaPo? David Carr of NYT?
We have to make trafficking in right-wing lies radioactive.
S&S should have left it to the right-wing nut jobs at Regnery Publishing.
Here is the list of upcoming local events. Show up and ask!
http://www.simonsays.com/content/consumer.cfm?tab=3&app=appearances&showall=local
August 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the Simon & Schuster website front page:
http://www.simonsays.com/content/index.cfm?pid=523105&tab=1
I hope the rest of their authors and editors are ready to take some long showers -- they are going to need 'em to get the Corsi taint off of them!
August 14, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's clever how multiple smears get worked into the blurb, isn't it?
Revisiting the Kerry smears and smearing Obama simultaneously. That's some fancy footwork.
August 14, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
More on S&S authors:
Under Ms. Reidy's supervision, Simon & Schuster has published some of the most distinguished authors in the world. The list includes Pulitzer Prize winners like David McCullough (1776, John Adams) and Doris Kearns Goodwin (Team of Rivals), acclaimed journalists and newsmakers including Bob Woodward (Bush at War), world figures such as President Jimmy Carter (Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (Living History) and memoirists Frank McCourt (Angela's Ashes) and Jeannette Walls (The Glass Castle). The Adult Group publishes many of the biggest and bestselling names in popular fiction, many of whom have had long lasting relationships with Simon & Schuster, including Sandra Brown, Mary Higgins Clark, Vince Flynn, Philippa Gregory, Stephen King, Jodi Picoult, and Jennifer Weiner. The company has a stellar reputation as a publisher of practical advice from authors as varied as Dr. Phil McGraw (Self Matters), Bob Greene (The Best Life Diet), Michael F. Roizen and Mehmet C. Oz (YOU: On a Diet), Paula Deen (It Ain't All About the Cookin'), and Stephen R. Covey (The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People)...
From the bio of Carolyn Kroll Reidy. Also, S&S is owned by CBS, so we can ask Katie Couric and Bob Schieffer what they think of working for the same company as Jerome Corsi.
http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=33&feature_id=6371
August 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Carolyn Kroll Reidy, Simon & Schuster CEO, donated the max to...Hillary!
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/carolyn-reidy.asp?cycle=08
You'd think of all people a Hillary supporter would understand how toxic this garbage is. Sad.
August 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kerry's problem was selfinflicted (no pun intended) the book claimed he got 2 of his purple hearts from questionable incidents. 1 that he got rice fragments in his butt from blowing up a barrel and not running and a second from bruising his arm when he fell down on his boat during the "rescue." All he had to do was sign the release of his medical records like Bush did (which led to the whole phoney AWOL story) but he refused to, and hasn't to this day. I have anovel idea for Obama (pun intended that time) how about refuting any falsehoods with facts. They say his Birth Certificate is phoney he produces his real one, they look like liars. They claim he taught classes on Communism he shows that he taught a "Political Philosophy" class that covered Communism, Facism, Democracy, Monarchy...and again they look like liars. Liar liar pants on fire won't work any better for Obama than it did for Kerry. Refuting the claims won't hurt him because the MSM won't seek out forged documents to prove a story that's true even if the documents aren't.
August 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree that Corsi sure looks like a nutter.
FWIW, I'm just completely fed up with having decisions that affect my own life, my finances, my children's welfare, and my parents' retirement made by people who make a living marketing lies, sleaze, and filth.
The problems this nation (and the planet) faces are simply too important to be made by sociopaths, nutcases, and swindlers.
If Obama and the Dems can't call bullshit on this insanity, and expose the sleaze and deception that Matalin profits from perpetuating, then I don't see how they can govern even if they win the election. I'm pleased to see that the Obama campaign is pushing back and insisting that these lies will be challenged and exposed.
Personally, I hope Obama ends up winning damages in a libel suit.
August 14, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know why so few people in the media are making it clear that this lie of book was published by Simon & Schuster. Does S&S get to keep its reputation as a legitimate and pretty respected publisher even though it published this thing as "non-fiction"?
http://www.radaronline.com/features/2008/08/full_court_press_corsi_obama_nation.php
August 14, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
That Radar Full Court Press blog item is awesome!
August 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we make this a TPM headline? Sort of a shot across the bow.
Simon & Schuster Spokesperson: Publishing Factual Books is "Nostalgic" and from the "Old Days of Publishing"
Also, be prepared to rebut phony First Amendment arguments. Corsi can write whatever he wants, but S&S does not have to publish it. S&S should have higher factual and ethical standards and only publish truthful books, not smears and lies.
August 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that radaronline info is terrific. Thx.
August 14, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
By the way people, it's "Jerome Corsi, Ph.D". He insists on that.
(which stands for PHony Dipshit)
August 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or: Piled High and Deep
August 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Au contraire. Corsi is a genuine dipshit.
August 14, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The word to use for this book is "lies," and Obama surrogates should use the word in every other sentence when talking about the book.
Maybe every sentence.
August 14, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
"same old lies"
August 14, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its also my feeling that the Obama campaign has to make an example out of Jerome Corsi. I've never been to prison, but I've seen enough penitentiary dramas in my day to know that you have to publicly bash someones head in just so some inmate named "Tiny" won't treat your prostate like a pinata and have you holding his extended pocket as a sign of ownership in the near future. Obliterating Corsi sends a clear message to anyone else who thinks that smearing Obama is a good idea.
August 14, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree completely. They need to bury this toad. Also go after Matalin and Simon and Shuester.
Matalin will link this book to the Republican Party and John McCain.
August 14, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Media Matters's surrogate Paul did a great job ripping Corsi on Larry King.
August 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah. nice that larry king puts both of 'em on at the same time. just unfortunate that he puts corsi on in the first place when putting them on as point-counterpoint only gives viewers the impression that each side has equally legitimate/valid points of view.
August 14, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
every time corsi sites his 'staff writer' position at worldnetdaily there ought to be someone saying 'ooh prestigious!'
August 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
THEY WHO LIE TO OBTAIN THE OVAL OFFICE WILL LIE ONCE THEY GET THERE.
August 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Corsi is trying to say that he is no way connected with McCain's campaign. One thing that will help if Obama's people can tie McCain to Corsi, thus compelling McCain to denounce Corsi.
August 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Subnote:
Why is there no media frenzy for McCain to denounce the book?
If it was a Dem book against McCain, the media would be all over Obama like a 16 year old in the back seat of Lover's Lane!
August 14, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that the bulk sales process is what is moving this book to its place on the list. Is there anyway of getting the figures on what was actually sold (after initial returns) on Corsi's book about Kerry?
August 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama Camp could also help itself by buying and running ads like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBfngOsvmA0&eurl=
August 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everybody on the blogosphere loves this ad.
And so am I. It should run on swing states.
Still, it's better if is run by a 527 like MoveOn.
PD: I don't know if I wrote blogosphere right, so my excuses for that mistake.
August 14, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link. This is brilliant! You're right that the O campaign should buy and run it. Or somebody should. Maybe instead of contributing to the campaign, we should raise money to run it ourselves via internet contributions.
August 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kudos, Greg!
This article is on top in Halperin's The Page.
But Halperin still sucks!
August 14, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
off topic but i hate how Halperin refers to every single obama rebuttal of mccain's nonsense as a "slap." he uses it in every headline, "obama slaps mccain on ...." it reinforces the notion that obama is wimpy or effeminate. when it's a mccain attack it's always phrased as "hitting" obama, or "hitting him hard" on some issue.
August 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
it should be on the best seller list for FICTION
August 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
So why is it that Corsi's fictitious swill gets front-page coverage in The Washington Post and national television and radio exposure, while Cliff Schecter's The Real McCain, which is actually carefully and exhaustively documented gets bupkes?
August 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because he didn't have "bulk buys" push his book up the best seller lists.
August 14, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
No doubt that's a big part of it.
I also think a cause is the mainstream media's readiness to buy the right-wing narrative hook, line and sinker at the slightest provocation.
August 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe we need a liberal bulk-buying program.
August 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glenn Greenwald's books sold like crazy. Chirping crickets from the MSM. Al Gore's Assault on Reason book was a best seller. All he got was a few derisive snorts. "What's the Matter With Kansas," "The Righwing Noise Machine" etc. etc.
The MSM likes rightwing screeds because slander and filth and kookytalk is more entertaining than dry truth.
August 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly, you're right on the money.
August 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does the macrobiotic bulgar I get from the Food Collective count?
August 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, what you buy has to be dumbed down enough to be easily propelled into the traditional media discourse and talked about on the nightly news.
But organic bulgar is probably better for you.
August 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks to TPM for keeping on top of this.
I know that Obama and his group are doing all they can and that they are very capable people. But I just can't get over the surreal notion that it is so exceedingly necessary in the first place.
At the risk of seeming naive, how can they even get away with it? Isn't what Corsi et al are doing libelous and if so subject to legal action? I mean he can't simply back his claims up with bogus sources and say it's legitimate. Can he?
The other thing that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is that this Rovian stratgey CORRECTLY asssumes that there is an audience just waiting to be swayed by it - that they actually need this book to change their minds.
Lastly, the unabashed contempuousness of the act itself should preclude any serious consideration from anyone other junkies looking for cheap fix and, well . . . don't get me started.
August 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the book is published in the UK, Obama could sue Corsi for libel under english law which is extremely accomodating in these cases.
August 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
And another thing, Obama is releasing another book in October I believe called "Change we can believe in" and it will surely debut a top the best seller lists. I wonder if that book will get all this publicity.
August 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you serious?!
When the hell does this guy have time to write a book?!
August 14, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.amazon.com/Change-We-Can-Believe-Americas/dp/0307460452/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218743294&sr=1-1
Though it seems like he just wrote the forward to this latest book. Available September 9th, as a cost of $12.oo
August 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Corsi needs to be linked to Matalin in every breath, because then the next logical step is to spell out Matalin's connections to the Republican party.
Use Matalin to connect Corsi to McCain.
August 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
...lies...Matalin...Republicans...McCain...slander...Matalin...Republicans...McCain.
August 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brilliant.
Here's hoping this is on Team Obama's list of talking points about this 'book.'
August 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
The campaign should dig as deep into Corsi's background and his connections until they hit real paydirt. Make it all about Corsi and his buddies. Even if it takes a private investigator to look in every knuck and corner.
August 14, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The campaign should dig as deep into Corsi's background and his connections until they hit real paydirt. Make it all about Corsi and his buddies. Even if it takes a private investigator to look in every knuck and corner.
Let's get Larry Flynt on it!
(ok, well, maybe not...)
August 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do you think L. Ron Hubbard's books were always best sellers? Same thing going on with this piece of crap Obama book.
Bulk sales by people closely associated with the book who made the buys only to ensure the "best seller" list is made by the book.
It would be interesting if the Obama people could get a list of these bulk buyers and make them public by either putting pressure on the publisher and/or finding a well placed informant from that same publisher.
August 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keep it simple Barack. Corsi=lying smear merchant; Corsi=lying smear merchant; Corsi=lying smear merchant; etc., ad nauseum.
August 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
yep. it's hardball for this. dig up his past-- he's asked for it.
August 14, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Roadkill writes: "At the risk of seeming naive, how can they even get away with it? Isn't what Corsi et al are doing libelous and if so subject to legal action? I mean he can't simply back his claims up with bogus sources and say it's legitimate. Can he?"
Yes, unfortunately, he can. Multiple court cases have established that libel laws do not protect public figures to any significant degree.
In other words, if I write that Charlie Shmidlap is a chickenf--ker, Charlie can sue the pants off me. If I write the same thing about Barack Obama, or John McCain, or any figure who's significantly in the public eye. it's almost impossible for them to win any kind of judgement against me.
Peace,
Paul
August 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's been a while, but what the lawyers at the newspapers I worked for told us was that libel protection for even the most public figures begins with "actual malice" and/or "reckless disregard for the truth."
Not easy to prove, but I believe the Ariel Sharon/TIME Magazine case showed it can be done.
You can't repeat damaging lies about even a public figure if you know they are not true.
August 15, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where's the book about McCain? Oh, that's right, Sean Hannity said we couldn't question McCain's Family Values because he was a POW for 5 years, so we'd better shut up.
August 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was fucking beautiful.
"Edwards' wife has cancer-"
"McCain's wife had been crippled in a car accident..."
"Well, uhhh...he was a POW!"
August 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
More like McCain left his wife more than 28 YEARS ago, Edwards was playing "hide the salami" with his staffer Less than 28 days ago...
August 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's besides the point.
Hannity was railing against Edwards' infidelity, saying that since he cheated on his wife he can't he be trusted to be President. He was just asking for McCain’s history to be thrown back at him.
Personally, I could care less about it and think infidelity has no bearing on one’s fitness to be President. But Hannity clearly disagrees and it was great to watch him try and squirm around the obvious bullshit double standard.
August 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I also love how McCain just "left his wife" while Edwards was "hiding the salami."
August 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the "28 days ago" part, as well.
IOKIYARism at its finest.
August 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
He hasn't left yet...
August 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shorter SFC: IOKIYAR
August 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
so in 28 years edwards will be qualified to be president. and he'll still be younger than mccain!
August 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would make one more suggestion for Obama:
Call McBush out for not condemning this book.
And for running a deceitful, negative campaign.
He's doing a good job including the phrase, "old, tired" in everything already. LOL
August 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would add that to the list of talking points for the surrogates.
August 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish the Democrats had their own people writing negative books about McCain...Why does it always seem we are the ones getting bullied around and having to play defense?
August 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Swiftboating did not beat Kerry. You folks will criticize the MSM analysis then buy it hook, line and sinker. Obama should respond to this but he needs to play offense not defense.
Look how much energy was wasted at the beginning of these comments on how bestseller lists are inflated. Go somewhere else and hit McCain for his lobby dominated campaign. That is where Obama's focus should be.
August 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a blog. Wasted energy is the air we breathe!
August 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
And thank you for being so prescient (if not slightly conceited), and pointing out where "we folks" go wrong. And I like it here just fine, thanks.
See, the beautiful thing is that "we" are NOT Obama, and can spend all the time we want playing defense on the blogs. This is one place where I, for one, come to discuss, and learn from smart people (like you!), so I can then go out in the world to help Obama win.
August 14, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since you speak for everyone in your airspace, and you have called me prescient, you already know I am going to say "I know 'you' are not Obama because "we" are already spoken for. We're Georgians."
August 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I would like to hear a line of attack on "McCain's secret agenda": make the rich even richer at the expense of everyone else, keep the nation and the government in the pocket and at the mercy of big oil, and rely on Dick Cheney's neo-Con advisors that brought us Iraq to bring us a return to the Cold War. Something like that.
August 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
"look how much energy was wasted"...
I disagree. Not everyone is familiar with the fact of bulk-buying, and its impact on the position of the book on the NY Times bestseller list.
Second, traditional media is going to be talking about sales' figures. It's useful to be aware that said figures are inflated indicators of the public's actual interest in the book.
August 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is in fact their main justification in covering this tripe and it feeds into the narrative that the mainstream public is rushing out to buy this "book". It's important that Obama's surrogates start harping about the bulk buys to make people understand that this is a manufactured play for media attention.
August 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what Kerry's handler's told him.
August 14, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's on amazon.co.uk so even if there are only a handful of copies in the country, Obama could actually sue the author and publisher under english law which frowns upon libel. If memory serves, a Saudi prince recently won a rather large judgement in absentia after a US author published a critical book after 9-11 that was only available in the UK by import. East european politicians have sometimes used english courts to silence critical newspapers at home even though only a handful of copies are sold in England.
Another, admittedly small, tactic would be to "tag" the book on amazon.com with words like "lies" "false" "libel" "debunked" etc.
August 14, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Admittedly, actually using a foreign court to silence lies might not sit well with certain segments of the electorate.
August 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
giving them a whole run-down of past Corsi quotes that are controversial.
And specifically, by "controversial," I assume you are referring to his statements that are unambiguously anti-Catholic, anti-semitic, anti-Moslem, and homophobic, among other things.
Howard Stern is "controversial." Chris Matthews is "controversial."
This stuff is hate-speak.
August 14, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Corsi's book was published under Mary Matalin's conservative publishing imprint "Threshold Editions" at Simon and Schuster. Mary Matalin is a long time GOP operative (two decades+) and who is a long time admirer of Dick Cheney and worked in the Bush/Cheney White House briefly.
In April 2006, she was appointed Treasurer of Virginia Republican Senator George "Macaca" Allen's re-election committee. She worked on the presidential campaign of Fred Thompson until January 2008, when Thompson dropped out of the race.
August 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget that she was Cheney's Chief of Staff (or similar role in the VP's office) during the first Bush/Cheney term
Thus: Corsi = Matalin = Cheney
August 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Corsi said on Larry King last night that he's not voting for either Obama or McCain, that he's been critical of McCain, and that he's written books on Democrats and Republicans alike.
So where's his book slamming McCain?
August 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll have the find the staute on that. Is it similar to satirizing a public figure?
August 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops. In reference to pstamier above. Thanks Paul.
August 14, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are there any anti-McCain books? Does anyone know?
Can we push to have equal air time for these?
August 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Cliff Schecter's The Real McCain.
http://www.amazon.com/Real-McCain-Conservatives-Independents-Shouldnt/dp/0979482291
August 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Call McBush out for not condemning this book.
Exactly. It should be SOP for this kind of thing. Sure is on the right--Obama is apparently supposed to apologize for anything any black person ever said that offended a CorpMedia mouthbreather. If McCain isn't condemning it, he's endorsing it--isn't that the logic? And b.t.w, he ought to be facing demands he renounce Lieberman's statements slurring Obama's patriotism as well.
August 14, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
FIRED UP!
Ready to rumble.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaintoon.jpg
August 14, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone know if Corsi is scheduled to go on the Daily Show or Colbert? That would be must see viewing in comedy/satire.
August 14, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotta love how they're sure to put "Ph.D" after his name right at the top. That must mean it's well-researched and credible!
August 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fine, spend some time explaining it on other blogs where the voters are, "ahem," less decided.
And don't forget to refute the "facts" in the book along the way.
August 14, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
This should have been a polite plea to CT Voter.
August 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://mediamatters.org/items/200808040005?f=h_top
August 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just now found out that this Corsi guy is a writer for World Net Daily. This is the "World Weekly News" of right winger publications. For instance, you go to www.worldnetdaily.com right now and the headline is "Astonishing photo claims: Dead Bigfoot stored on ice". Then most of the rest of the articles are crazy attacks on people they don't agree with.
August 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude. The bigfoot story is the biggest story of our time.
August 15, 2008 12:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Obama counter-attack sound great. My only question is why are they PLANNING a fact-check NOW? Couldn't they have gotten their hands on a copy a little ahead of time?
August 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I cannot understand for the life of me why the MSM gives this guy air time. I know, I know - they like to drum up controversy. But they didn't much if any time to Larry Sinclair. This guy is a nut job of the same caliber.
August 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
For the same reason people slow down to gawk at a car wreck.
August 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Man, check out the Boozer's Rouge on this guy.
Worse than Hitchens.
August 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Commander in Chief Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF39TRCPPE
August 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
GIVE UM HELL BARRY!
August 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Along with tying Corsi into Matalin and though her to the Republican Party, surrogates should explain how the trash book vaulted up to the #1 best seller, explain bulk buying and challenge the news agencies to investigate if there was bulk buying and if there was who was buying in bulk?
Corsi's book was published under Mary Matalin's conservative publishing imprint "Threshold Editions" at Simon and Schuster. Mary Matalin is a long time GOP operative (two decades+) and who is a long time admirer of Dick Cheney and worked in the Bush/Cheney White House briefly.
In April 2006, she was appointed Treasurer of Virginia Republican Senator George "Macaca" Allen's re-election committee. She worked on the presidential campaign of Fred Thompson until January 2008, when Thompson dropped out of the race.
August 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The NYT itself says there was bulk buying, so there is no question that it took place!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/books/bestseller/besthardnonfiction.html
August 14, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
And in October:
While John McCain was being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian citizen, studying the Koran and learning Arabic. Who is Barry Soetoro? He now calls himself Barack Obama. Who is Barack Obama?........
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/fogu2/
August 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"And in October: While John McCain was being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian citizen, studying the Koran and learning Arabic. Who is Barry Soetoro?"
And in August:
While other self respecting republicans have legitimate issues with a Barack Obama presidency, figu2 is scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel once again - proving that the best parts of his ran down his mothers leg.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128025.html
August 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I finally get it, Chris Rock had the term for you.
August 14, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Oh, I finally get it, Chris Rock had the term for you."
What in the fuck are you babbling about, coward?
August 15, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who was Leslie King?
Who was William Blythe?
I want answers.
August 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is Obama, er, Soetoro, er, whatever...MIA?
August 14, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You eat any shit you come across, don't you?
August 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
he doesn't really eat it, he just smears it around.
August 14, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like Obama's campaign has a lot of ammunition to use against Corsi. Here's TNR's compilation of some recent quotes. I hope they ask McCain whether or which of these he agrees with:
Maybe while he's there [referring to Pope JPII] he can tell the UN what he's going to do about the sexual crimes committed by "priests" in his "Church" during his tenure. Or, maybe that's the connection -- boy buggering in both Islam and Catholicism is okay with the Pope as long as it isn't reported by the liberal press. (03/03/2003)
So this is what the last days of the Catholic Church are going to look like. Buggering boys undermines the moral base and the laywers rip the gold off the Vatican altars. We may get one more Pope, when this senile one dies, but that's probably about it. (12/16/2002)
Let's see exactly why it isn't the case that Islam is a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion? Where's the proof to the contrary?
Islam is like a virus -- it affects the mind -- maybe even better as an analogy -- it is a cancer that destroys the body it infects... No doctor would hesitate to eliminate cancer cells from the body. (11/26/02)
How's this as an analogy -- the Koran is simply the "software" for producing deviant cancer cell political behavior and violence in human beings. (02/15/2002)
Isn't the Democratic Party the official SODOMIZER PROTECTION ASSOCIATION of AMERICA -- oh, I forgot, it was just an accident that Clintoon's first act in office was to promote "gays in the military." RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together. (11/18/2001)
HELL-ary loves the Arabs so much (kiss, kiss Mrs. Arab*RAT) -- wonder how she would look in a Burkha? (05/21/2002)
Mullah Ali'Gore-ah is very proud of his new Bin Laden beard and he hopes others in the Democratic Party will follow his lead. Hell-ary is disappointed she cannot grow a beard, but her press secretary reminds us she can still enroll in flight school. (01/07/02)
Anybody ask why HELLary couldn't keep BJ Bill satisfied? Not lesbo or anything, is she? (06/08/2003)
Too bad the plane didn't crash into the TV set of the NBC show "THE LEFT WING" -- especially when Martin Sheen was "acting." (06/07/2003)
John F*ing Commie Kerry and Commie Ted [Kennedy] discuss their plan to hand America over to our nation's enemies. (02/04/2004)
August 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
where are these from? would be good responses to emails about 'facts' from the book if there was a source.
August 14, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
in the original at mediamatters the dates are hyperlinked to the sources. most of them are blog comments he posted at free republic under his username, jrlc.
August 14, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama aides also say they'll soon be blasting an extensive fact-check of the book "
W H E N?
August 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look below...
August 14, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Careful my fellows, bulk buying leads to bulk selling. And once the books are printed and shipped, they have to be sold by the election even at a loss otherwise they will go stale on the shelf.
August 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talking Point:
Well, this piece of trash was published by the former chief of staff of the Liar in Chief, Dick Cheney. So what kind of truth can you expect.
August 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's response to Corsi's book:
"Unfit for Publication" here:
http://thepage.time.com/2008/08/14/this-man-wont-be-swift-boated/
I better start reading...
August 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Article about it (by the AP!):
Obama campaign issues rebuttal to book's claims
By NEDRA PICKLER
HONOLULU (AP) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama hit back Thursday with a 40-page rebuttal to the best-selling book "The Obama Nation," arguing the author is a fringe bigot pedaling rehashed lies.
Jerome Corsi's anti-Obama book, "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," argues that the Illinois senator is a dangerous, radical candidate for president. The book is a compilation of all the allegations and innuendo against Obama - that he was raised a Muslim, attended a radical, black church and secretly has a black rage hidden beneath the surface.
The Obama campaign picked apart the book's claims in a rebuttal titled "Unfit For Publication," to be posted on the Obama campaign's rumor-fighting Web site, FightTheSmears.com. The title is a play on the book Corsi co-authored against 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's military service called "Unfit For Command."
"Jerome Corsi is a discredited liar who is pedaling another piece of garbage to continue the Bush-Cheney politics he helped perpetuate four years ago," said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor. "His is just one of what will likely be many more lie-filled books rushed to print this election cycle, which are cobbled together from debunked Internet sources to make money and advance a partisan agenda. We will respond to these smears forcefully with all means at our disposal."
Corsi's book is off to a swift start and will debut at No. 1 Sunday on The New York Times' hardcover nonfiction best-seller list. The book's prominence gave the Obama campaign reason to fight back so aggressively.
Obama's campaign says the book is full of factual inaccuracies that include the wrong date for the Obamas' marriage. Corsi also writes that Obama left much of his family background out of his autobiographies - his father's polygamy and alcoholism, his sister's birth in Indonesia and that his then-fiance Michelle accompanied him on a visit to Kenya - but the campaign points out page numbers from "Dreams From My Father" where Obama discussed all those things.
August 14, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's not bad, even though Nedra Pickler is a terrible AP reporter from the Al Gore campaign days. She help spread one of the dumb rumors, maybe the internet one or the Love Canal one.
August 15, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I read the Obama response (41 pages in pdf.) It is a great start. Sadly the book is 400 pages long, so team Obama hasn't responded to every charge, but from what I have read there is little doubt Corsi is a bald faced liar and a piss poor scholar.
August 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The good about the response is that it wasn't only fast (compared to Kerry's campaign four years ago) but the fact that it deal with the major points of the book and show strong and consistent evidence that Corsi's claims are lies. Also, they present a glimpse of the man and the real intention of this crappy book (those quotes are jaw-dropping).
McCain: New Cold War First!
August 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I question the demand for Corsi’s book that is suddenly propelling it onto the New York Times list. It could be a result of an massive buyback that the author himself orchestrated, which some commenters are noting.
A book can hit the bestseller list if there’s a strategic buy, done on the same day, which greatly inflates the sales percentage differential from the week before. For example, a new author with $35k at his disposal could hire someone like Michael Drew, who flags bookstore buyers to put in their orders on the same day, which then artificially inflates sales numbers from the previous week and lands my book on the list. The New York Times list will usually record such massive movement, even if the numbers aren’t driven from consumer demand – but it can be spun as consumer demand.
Other readers are noting the same thing -- perhaps a large bulk buy from some political organization?
One way of dissolving Corsi’s anti-Obama message is to dispute the validity of the sales numbers and the reasons why it’s a “guaranteed New York Times bestseller.” The attacks from his book can’t be very resonant, and certainly would poke holes in the book’s “staying power,” and certainly the author and his message, if you discover that the author bought back massive amounts of his own book, or that he hired someone to green-light an orchestrated buy. Common knowledge in the book industry, but perhaps not so for your readers.
To be fair, the book is receiving a phenomenal amount of publicity, but because it’s a Times bestseller doesn’t lend it any gravitas. Prove that this is not just consumer-driven, and you’ve dampened his credibility.
Just a thought.
August 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, lets see and hear it, Obama camp! I don't want to hear they're planning it, I want to see them do it. Although I imagine they have to do this is a way that doesn't make it seem that they're taken off their game.
I think the "give a huge speech" tactic worked pretty well with the Rev. Wright issue. Obama could give a speech on basic decency in poltiics and also expose and obliterate the lies. Would that work?
August 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Books, schmooks. We know who Barack Obama is. And all we need is a click on a link -- via this one photo (link below & NY Times story) -- to show the voters just who John McCain really is.
The photo: John Hugs George
The New York Times story:
THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: THE ARIZONA SENATOR; Bearhug Politics: Careful Steps to a New Bush-McCain Alliance
By TODD S. PURDUM
Published: August 21, 2004
It was one of the odder embraces in American politics since Sammy Davis Jr. hugged Richard M. Nixon at the Republican Convention 32 years ago this summer: George W. Bush and John McCain's back-wrapping bearhug and side-head-smooch on the campaign trail last week.
For most of the past four years, Mr. McCain and the man who beat him for the Republican nomination in a bitter campaign in 2000 have treated each other like a pair of reversed magnets, members of the same metallurgical family held apart by reciprocal repulsion. Now their locked arms are raising eyebrows.
"Don't make people who hate you hug you," Bill Maher joked on the HBO program "Real Time." "Whatever the Bush administration is blackmailing John McCain with, stop!"
The newfound friendship may be good for late-night laughs, but it is deadly serious political business for both men, the result of a deliberate, months-long effort by the White House to woo the Arizona senator - the most popular national political figure in the country - and of Mr. McCain's self-interested susceptibility to same. The turnabout could not be more striking, and for both men the stakes could be nothing less than the presidency itself.
Four years ago, relations were so strained that Mr. McCain left the Republican convention in Philadelphia two days early, returning for the final night only after a last-minute request by the Bush team. This year, he will have a prime-time speaking slot on the convention's first night in New York City, play host to the network anchors at a private dinner the day before, campaign with the president in several states the day after, speak to 10 or 15 state delegations and preside over a celebrity party with the comedian Darrell Hammond on the eve of Mr. Bush's re-nomination.
So what's up? Pure political physics, friends of both men say.
Mr. Bush is locked in a tight race with Mr. McCain's old Senate friend John Kerry and needs all the belated help he can get with the moderate, Democratic and independent voters who like Mr. McCain. And Mr. McCain, who has spent months earning the ire of his party by saying nice things about Mr. Kerry and nasty ones about some Bush policies, is eager to show, like Dr. Seuss's punctilious pachyderm, that he may have meant what he said and said what he meant, but "an elephant's faithful 100 percent."
Whether Mr. Bush wins or loses, the Republican race for the White House will be wide open in 2008, and while Mr. McCain has often suggested he would not run again, politicians never really mean never. As he learned in 2000, Mr. McCain could not win the nomination without broader backing from the party establishment than his independence sometimes allows.
"John is so sharp," said former Senator Alan K. Simpson of Wyoming. "I think he knows that whatever his future is, it can never go anywhere unless he's seen as supportive of the party and supportive of the president, and anything else will abort whatever he may have in mind."
And what can Mr. McCain do for the president?
"A lot," Mr. Simpson said, "because he knows the power of John McCain, he's felt the sting of that before himself, and I think he's gratified and genuinely pleased and very happy that John will do this. We need all the horses in the corral for this one, I'll tell you."
[ NY Times ]
August 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given that his campaign manager is a lobbyist for Georgia.... it seems that McCain would rather START A WAR WITH RUSSIA than lose a political campaign.
August 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
We have audio of the Corsi interview on Larry King available here.
August 14, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this not merely another form of unregulated Advertising - negative for Obama in this case, positive for McCain - becuase of all the chatter it creates in the media etc.?
Campaigning in the guise of "free speech"?
August 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's an absolute losing cause to put out fact sheets knocking down the assertions in the book. In a situation like this, you need to destroy the person making the assertions. People have touched on this recently, by bringing up some of the crazy charges Corsi has made in the past. He's said that he has "apoligized" for those statements. This is the correct approach to dealing with this cockroach. The Republicans think like wolves. There's no way to deal with them, except on that level. They need to ruin this guy--personally, professionally and on every other level. Otherwise, he'll just keep coming back. The Democrats need to treat Corsi to a taste of his own medicine and Swiftboat him out of the book business. And they out to take Matalin out along with him. Harsh, but there's no other way.
August 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with those who advocate actively associating the slimeball Corsi with the equally odious Matalin (incidentally, I pretty much feel the same way about her husband; I wouldn't be surprised to read some morning that they had been found dead together, having managed to sting each other in the night), and then asking why the distinguished publisher Simon & Schuster -- yes, they are that -- has decided to remake itself into a Regnery competitor. Alas, shame isn't quite the vital force it used to be in American business, but still the effort should be made. I haven't checked to see what other books Matalin has signed for her tawdry little imprint, but it would be hard to beat Corsi for sleaziness.
August 14, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is posted on Jonathan Martin's blog at Politico:
"In a move that is one part genuine pushback and one part message-sending, Obama's campaign has released a 41-page pdf file designed to rebut accusations made in Jerome Corsi's book, "The Obama Nation."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/Obama_pushes_back_hard_on_Corsi_book.html
A link to the pdf file can be found on the page.
August 14, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, I've been reading the 40-page PDF rebuttal and it's very good. While it seems unfortunate to have to read all the lies, after a while it sinks in how crappy a book this is. Perhaps this is good to have it all out, and whenever anyone brings up this crap, it will be dismissed by pointing to the 40-page rebuttal.
August 14, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It sounds as if this is just the beginning of a concerted effort to discredit the bookand Corsi along with it. We can only hope that the Mainstream media has learned something from 2004 and will rise to the occasion this time around..
August 14, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I counted 51 statements they correctly and appropriately identify as a lie. It is especially commendable that they clearly label these "LIE". All caps, no euphemism, LIE.
Repeating LIE 51 times perhaps, just maybe, will sink in with the media and they will adopt it, and the truth, as well.
August 14, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfit for Publication
http://my.barackobama.com/page/-/email/Fight_the_Smears_-_Unfit_for_Publication.jpg
August 14, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOPS
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/corsi
August 14, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Digg link for a story at Huffington Post that seems to be doing well.
August 14, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops. Correct link.
August 14, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think there should be a book in the wings that will drag out all the dirt on McCain. Playing defense to Repub offense is a losing position. McCain has ties to corruption going back to the Keating 5. He had affairs and dumped his first wife to a pill popping, thieving heiress. Folks who know him say his temper should disqualify him.
Ample material here for a assault by book. Why won't anyone go for it?
August 15, 2008 12:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should demand that McCain renounce this book.
If McCain refuses, make a major character issue out of it.
August 15, 2008 2:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
If anything, Corsi should be condemned for making a really bad (and obnoxious) pun as the title of his miserable little book...
August 15, 2008 7:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Over at Firedoglake they call it Wingnut Welfare the way they buy the books in bulk. The way Right Wing organizations prop up books that contain utter fabrications and lies. Not worth the paper they are printed on.
It is often contrasted with liberal tomes that have good sales all on their own without these "bulk" sales.
August 15, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The BULK SALES has been utilized by the righteous righties for quite some time..LOL, Coulter has contract that specifies publisher to buy(back) her books which then are used for giveaways but has allowed her to proclaim "best selling author" status for her trash. The Swifties of 2004 had to outlay a meager $300,000 or so, the MSM folks then PROMOTED and DISTRIBUTED their talking points for them with constant "catch" phrasings/excerpts to the detriment of Kerry/the nation. Many THINK that folks are smarter, not guillible enough to accept trash as truth but IS a mistake for rational thought processes are not always employed and the results have shown it !!Honorable to take the "high road" approach, but at peril and is why responding with hard hitting FACTUALS is more than appropriate, it is needed as well ergo'd, a mandatory neccessity !! (as for Matelin, gg, she was a Cheny-bot and her spouse a Clintonite to his core beiengness...makes for an unsual household no doubt but they have similarities that bind them , the rest of us CAN walk away, they remained entwined and each easily disparageable !!)
August 15, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a friend in Texas who routinely buys 20 of the Corsi books a week. He is a retired Texas Oilman, has loads of money and he buys this swill and sends them to any registered Democrat he can find. this the book sales go up and the NYT sales numbers clime. Amazingly tricky and dishonest but he even knows Dems to do not even read them. When I acted disgusted, he said, "What the H., this is a lot of fun."
August 15, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink