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Obama Campaign Hits Back Against New McCain "Celeb" Ad

Obama spokesperson Bill Burton responds to McCain's latest "celeb" sneer ad...

"Is the biggest proponent of George Bush's tired, failed policies ready to bring about change? Another day brings another dishonest attack from John McCain. While Senator McCain knows that Senator Obama has proposed cutting taxes for 95% of American families, what he's not telling us is that he wants to give $4 billion in tax breaks to the oil companies, continue giving tax breaks to corporations that ship our job overseas, and provide no direct tax relief for more than 100 million middle-class families. It's time to retire these old policies and bring new energy to America."

I really wonder whether the Obama camp should be confronting the "celeb" thing a bit more directly, though I confess I'm not sure how one would do that.


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Maybe the Obama campaign should release some YouTube video of McCain hosting SNL (twice?), doing a cameo in The Wedding Singer, appearing on The Daily Show a zillion times, etc.

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Definitely. There's nothing more pitiful than a wanna-be celebrity mocking another's more successful celebrity.

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No!!!

Getting into a tit-for-tat with McFeeble about who's a bigger celebrity is a big mistake.  That's their agenda.  BigO should not allow McCranky to dictate the debate.

Have ya noticed that McSame has been hitting BigO with the same meme for a couple of weeks?  That's what Obama needs to do.  Hit McSame from the same angle over and over for at least a week, maybe two or three.

What angle?  You pick it.  I personally like the "26 years in Congress" meme 'cuz it plays the age card subliminably™.  And I've noticed that the pictures of McSame shown when that text is spoken have him looking very old.  That fits well with his recent spate of frequent melt-downs.

But the point is to pick one caricature and hammer it home for a while before moving on to some other angle of attack.

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At the same time, Obama has to be careful about being nasty to an old guy who reminds people of their Grandpa. He's better off sticking to the issues.

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Yeah, that's a good way to deal with the media talking heads these days. Don't bother to make an ad for general release, just make a quick video they can run to fill up time on their stupid shows.

They need to make these very obvious and easy rebuttals to the McCain campaign in video form, not just press release. Hire some talent away from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert!

The TV news shows all ran Paris Hilton's ad yesterday and today. McCain claimed it was his plan, which was silly b/c whoever wrote her text was obviously repeating Obama's position almost word-for-word (offshore drilling with strict environmental safeguards).

I forgot what show it was but, mccain back in the day did a shower scene on one of the SNL type shows.



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Here's my question:

Haven't we always elevated our President -- some more than others -- to celebrity status? Why would we want a President we couldn't elevate to celebrity status?

Why doesn't the media ask John McCain this?

Agreed....I think that trying to paint McCain as the celebrity because of his TV and movie appearances is not the right move at all. Instead, Obama should embrace McCain calling him a celebrity. All he needs to do is say "hey, the world likes me, isn't that something we want in a president?" It's been a long time since that was the case. I know this is a delicate line because he can't come across as arrogant, but I think pitching celebrity status as a good thing is the way to go here.

I can't believe Greg is unsure of how Obama could effectively respond to the "celebrity" accusations. The answer is so simple it's painful.

McCain: He's a celebrity, but is he ready to lead?

Obama: I'm a celebrity BECAUSE I'm ready to lead. I'm a celebrity because people see that I'm the best choice for President of the United States. I'm popular because people like my ideas and like the thought of me in the White House.

Just highlight the fact that John McCain has appeared on 24, in The Wedding Crashers, hosted Satruday Night Live and has appeared on the late night talk shows many, many times. Somebody wants to be a celebrity and it's not Barack Obama.

That he has to go to Sturgis and offer his wife up in a raunchy naked "beauty pageant in order to get his big crowd.

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What Jonze and Jenesq said.

On a couple days where Obama really seemed like he was finding his groove, this Bill Burton statement is a sad step back.

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I disagree. Anybody can string together a bunch of clips of McCain and voiceover "who really wants to be the celebrity here?"

IMO, It's better for Obama to take the highroad, and have a funny video go viral with no connection to Obama's campaign.

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The problem is that the media may not find that video or run that video unless it's released by the actual campaign.

MoveOn might be able to get such an ad on the news, maybe, if they claim they will actually be running it.

ah but that's the point and the beauty of viral video. if it's good it goes viral and everybody sees it and talks about it (even the punditsticks on television). if it misses the mark or isn't very good or funny it just kicks around youtube like an empty tin can and nobody notices. all the better.

no I think kerry tried to take the high road and we see where that ended up


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Wrong. I've thought a lot about this, and it would be a mistake for Obama's own folks (as opposed to independent pundits and bloggers) to argue "no no no McCain is the real 'celebrity.'"

Here's why. First, Obama discovered yesterday that McCain's use of Paris/Britney is his ace in the hole. When he wants to go after McCain on substance, he can end with a rousing "They don't want to understand the policy, they want to talk about Britney Spears!"

Second, for better or worse, the notion of McCain as "celebrity" does not really work because people just don't see him that way anymore. He was once quite handsome; no longer. To make it work Obama would have to expend a lot of resources saturating people with this -- with no guarantee it would work.

Third, to come back with "You're the celebrity, not me" sounds like third-grade schoolyard rebuttal. And to buy into the frame that vaguely calling someone a "celebrity" means that they are not qualified to be a good President may not be helpful to Obama. It's not the field he wants to be playing on.

Fourth, and most important, the 'celebrity' meme has the downside of lowering expectations for Obama's debate performances and increasing expectations for McCain's. That's incredibly risky for the McCainiacs. Obama should rope the dope on this one, and earnestly respond to McCain's attacks on the merits. Obama can be withering in his attacks, even when they are on the merits, so he should stick to the merits.

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Gotta disagree. The "celebrity" angle is the only thing they've got to disparage Obama.

One simple video released on the web featuring McCain in Wedding Crashers, SNL, and 24, makes its way onto the talk shows, and that's over.

Then they have nothing.

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One simple video released on the web featuring McCain in Wedding Crashers, SNL, and 24, makes its way onto the talk shows, and that's over.

You're assuming everyone else would interpret/spin such a video the same way you would, even if it did get on the radar. That's not likely to happen. Doing a cameo in Wedding Crashers is mavericky. It's not the same as idol worship.

I'm definitely with LincolnDuncan on this one.

They need to say, "McCain should stop obsessing over Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, and other Hollywood celebrities. He sure doesn't seem to have anything else to focus on, like how Americans are hurting at the gas pump, suffering from lack of health care coverage, and worrying about how to afford their children's education."

I think your analysis is spot on. Burton could have used his response to Paris's ad: "Whatever" and left it at that.

If I'm Obama, I continue to mock McCain about this. He's running for POTUS and is upset that his opponent is more popular than he is, despite being on the national scene, almost two decades less. Hater.

Agreed. Good analysis.

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As I said in the other comment:

They may need to make it clear that McCain is the original celebrity and appeared before 50,000 bikers at Sturgis before someone from American Idol and Kid Rock took the stage. Sounds like a celebrity!

They could also hit McCain as being jealous of Obama, a la Maureen Dowd in the NYT today (which has the added benefit of being obviously true).

Hitting his strength of being seen as an honorable man would suggest running ads about what a dishonorable campaign he is running.

Another option would be to run some Kennedy and MLK, Jr. footage as a rebuttal and to remind folks that popular leaders can change the world for the better. It's not about celebrity, it's about having the leadership to build a broad coalition for change. Throw in some newspaper references to how much more detailed Obama's policies and plans are and how purposely vague McCain has been.

They can also hit him with his cluelessness on the economy, being horrible on virtually every domestic policy, turning a total 180 since 2000, old, prone to confusion on the stump, and same as Bush/Cheney. Is that why McCain is trying to hide Cheney, keeping him out of the RNC?

Why not ask if McCain is questioning the wisdom of millions who voted to nominate Obama as dem nominee (largest no of votes in a primary ever). Does McCain think the American voters are foolish or impressionable? Or does he think he knows better than them? Something like that.
Obama needs to show he won't be bullied!

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He didn't even "get" that big crowd. The crowd was going to be there anyway, probably would've gathered around to watch a juggler or a guy who could fart the Stars and Stripes Forever. McCain doesn't draw crowds unless something else is going on in the same venue.

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i thought that this was subtle in the obama camp's newest ad, but when mr. burton said "old policies" coupled with "new energy", i think perhaps the obama camp is subtly highlighting the age discrepancy between the two candidates (i.e.: sen mccain is old and out of it, sen obama is young with fresh ideas)

Exactly. There's even a couple more:

"tired, failed policies"
"retire, the old policies"

I like it.

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do you think the mccain campaign will accuse the obama campaign of playing "the age card"?

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Good, I think that's a loser for them in the same way that discussion of the race card can be bad for Obama. It just reminds everyone of his age and the fact that he sounds and acts so old.

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i think the obama campaign is hoping that is exactly what will happen. then they can say,

"look, john mccain has served as a distinguised member of the senate for over 25 years. during that time he has done little to curb the looming energy crisis, he has supported failed foreign policy ventures, and he intends to continue the same economic plans that hurt middle class families. we were referring to his old policies that will not address the problems we face today. barack obama's energy plan focuses on alternative sources, a middle class tax cut, and taking on big oil. that is a strategy that will help put our country on the track towards energy independence. this isn't about mccain's age, this is about america's future."

or something shorter perhaps?

Here's McCain when told of Sylvester Stallone's endorsement of him - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYfFZsFP2dc

I like the respond. Burton & Co. can be pretty lengthy and complicated in these quick responses.
Have have taken a more simpler & aggressive approach lately.

They should point out that John McCain is basically conceding that he's not very popular with the American people. A presidential race is not the place to work out your personal issues. Eat a Paxil, gramps.

I think they should call McCain's constant whining and obvious jealousy as being just that: petty whining.

Better yet, let some surrogates do it. Cast McCain as the serial complainer and whiner, always bitter and griping.

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Blah, blah, blah, totally ineffective, flaccid, typical Democratic response. What happened to Obama's response yesterday when he accurately called them liars? It's depressive what wimps we have running our national campaigns.

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I freaking totally agree. I hate how these Dem adds keep putting facts, figures, "our plan is..". Publishers know that every number or math bit lowers the 'saleability' of a book. Republicans make sweeping statements, however wrong, that resonate.

How do you confront the "celeb" label?

Run an ad with clips of McCain in movies, clips of him praising Reagan (followed by Reagan in a movie), the Governator ("I'll be back"), and Fred Thompson. "McCain.. the original political celebrity, not the original maverick".

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The comment is about 60 words long. It puts everybody to sleep about half way through. It kind of reminded me of John Kerry.

Sometimes you can say too much.

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Yup. It's a shame that once you go to the dark side, you can't come back. It would be nice for the Dems to score some of the Republicans that know how to put out advertisements that stick with the wishy-washy.

Here's McCain playing a creepy husband in a SNL skit from back in the day - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lhomInJ7Pc

(He really is creepy in it)

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im not sure Obama should run from the label of celebrity.. he certainly came about it through his own accomplishments and the hope people have in him to right the sinking ship that is America. IMHO he should confront the McCain attacks by pointing out why he is a celebrity even though he offers no upskirt shots, drunken videos, blockbuster movies (McCain), etc.. but hes a celebrity because of the supreme competence he can bring to the job, which has been lacking in american politics over the past 8 years, and which McCain clearly cannot provide himself. People are celebrities for reasons, and with some exceptions, its usually because of enormous expertise that excites millions of people. Obama has that expertise in politics to a degree we havent seen in decades. This should be a huge positive, not something to act ashamed of.

As mentioned above by several -- Obama should hit McCain with his own 'celebrity' appearances.

Also, what's wrong with Obama being popular both at home, and abroad? It seems to me that we have had eight years of some pretty harsh douchebaggery. A positive world view of the occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue would do our country some good.

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I agree!

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The celebrity thing is about to play itself out.

Paris Hilton pretty much guaranteed that the wrinkly old white haired guy is going to come out of this looking the worse for wear.

Ultimately the winning *image* for Obama is vitality versus exhaustion. The image of the men confirming the substance of their programs. New leadership or put the same old guys in charge.
I'd like to see more ads of Obama literally moving. His campaign imagery should be kinetic. This will be an extraordinary contrast. And Obama can even co-opt the images from McCain's celebrity nonsense. BiIg crowds, cheering = vitality. Stiff guy, smiling awkwardly is awkward embrace with the unpopular president (hanging on for dear life) is the opposite.

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what's even better about it, is that the mccain campaign has been so eager to pursue the "celebrity" tag that they responded to the paris hilton spoof commercial and applied to obama's energy plan.

why is the mccain campaign engaging with a celebrity that has no real interest in solving our energy crisis? if his campaign cannot tell that it was a joke, then they are having serious problems. if they did realize it was a joke and wanted to joke along with it, perhaps the obama camp can spin it by saying that "mccain is more interested in talking about and with celebrities than in solving our energy crisis in an intelligent and serious manner"

Something like: "Maybe John McCain wants to have a back-and-forth with Paris Hilton. I'm more interested in talking with the American people."

Americans love celebrities, hate whiners

How do you fight the celebrity charge?

Well, I think we need to see a more working class Obama. The sand bagging on the Mississippi was perfect. Let's see more of that spirit in this campaign please. Willing to help, pitch in, get your hands dirty.

More on the community organzing would be good. I'm sure he has a story or two he could tell.

How about comparing doing the family budget and balancing the budget in Washington- we're only making this, so cut that, but we need this, so cut that. I don't know if that's the best example, but explaining things through the lens of an average, middle class family would go far.

In a nutshell, as much as I love Obama's detailed policy proposals, we also need some good, plain old leveling with people. Obama needs to explain things in common, every day terms and analogies. People want to know that Obama understands them and where they are coming from. See FDR, Fireside Chats.

Finally, I think he should really make a stop to the Appalachians and talk jobs. See FDR again.

Jobs, jobs, jobs and the dignity of hard work.

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it looked like in one of his more recent ad regarding his energy policy, sen. obama is walking with men with hard hats on, and the senator is not wearing a suit and tie, but dark colors (blue and black) and has a casual stance.

perhaps they are making the move you're suggesting.

Actually, that should be LBJ and his visit to Appalachia.

I haven't read it all, but this looks like a good article on the LBJ visit:

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20001126appalachiamainnat2.asp

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"How do you fight the celebrity charge?"

I don't know. How did Reagan fight the celebrity charge? If ever a person running for Pres was a celebrity, it was the idol near and dear to most Republicans.

Agreed. Show Obama working in the trenches, exploit his ability to do physical labor among the people, agile etc. Everybody knows McCain can't do that. That'd hammer home the age meme without risk.

Hitting McCain on his celebrity appearances is just retarded. Do you really want an ad on Obama and all his celebrity friends? See Scarlet Johanesson/pen pals.

However having celebrity supporters is different than actually being in movies, television shows and hosting SNL (and thus appearing in many skits). It shows McCain is the fame whore and will make his "celebrity" attack seem sorta pathetic.

I do agree that the youtubers should go after this rather than the official camp or surrogates.

Hopefully they're holding off the Wedding Singer, Daily Show, SNL stuff for Obama to use personally.

I think there are two people now talking about Obama: John McCain and Barack Obama.

His campaign needs to stop making these boring statements, those facts won't make them memorable.

McCain's presenting Americans with a simple and stark choice: the Original Maverick or the self-absorbed Celebrity. He's doing it in a language that an average voter understands instinctively.

Instead of presenting an alternative, Obama campaign is wasting time defending himself and missing opportunities.

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An Obama response could address a couple of these memes the repos are running against him by having Obama talk directly to the camera and say what he said to the House Dems:
* his campaign is not about him, it is about the hopes and dreams of the America people that we can move beyond the politics of old and work together to build a better tomorrow...
* his campaign has become popular because people see the possibility of healthcare for all, ending the war in Iraq, energy independence, etc...
* John McCain calls that celebrity, I call it hope.

Did anyone pick up on the "retire these old policies" line?? LOL

By the way, I don't think that the Obama people should confront the celebrity charge... The charge that Obama is popular implicitly contrasts him with the overwhelmingly unpopular current President. So, the McCain camp is essentially confirming to people that Obama would indeed offer a different direction than Bush. Sure, some people may be turned of by "celebrity," but being called a "celebrity" is not anywhere near derogative in this nation; most people, regardless of their station, probably wish that they could be celebrities... Thus, the McCain camp is having to create a derogative term where it didn't exist previously in our society. Individual celebrities are ridiculed, despised, whatever, but it's typically because of their individual traits (e.g., vacuousness). Obama is way too intelligent for that charge to stick to him. If anything, I think the McCain camp should reassess their push with this "celebrity" charge. I don't think it's the winner that they think it is. I think they're mostly sticking with it because it got so much press before, but that was because of the strange inclusion of Paris & Britney, not because it was a brilliant strategy.

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i completely agree.

both pearl white and myself remarked the same sentiment hinted in the obama camp remark text and ad narrative earlier in the thread. i believe you laid out the whole reasoning to why this line of attack will ultimately fail on the part of the mccain camp.

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It should be quite easy to rebut this kind of nonsense. Just put together a 2 minute ad filled with video showing McCain being confused and ignorant about anything and everything and all of sudden the debate turns from is Obama ready to lead, to is McCain able to lead. The answer is clearly no.

I think McCain is just waiting for Obama to come up with something that is personally insulting. Like "oldest celebrity" bomb from Hilton. That would be seen by average voters as mean-spirited and desperate.

Obama needs to avoid this at all costs.

He needs to watch McCain's ads a dozen times and understand that it's not about openly denigrading an opponent, but presenting a choice.

What do you want, America, "A" or "B" and then describe both in a way that's reasoned and calm but leaves no doubt as to what's better.

Burton is reacting like Britney Spears, flailing arms and offended voice.

McCain's ads are neither reasoned or calm.

Their angry, irrational outbursts of envy from an empty suit who feels betrayed because he thinks his media sycophants haven't been loyal enough.

It's really pathetic.

'They're,' rather.

There are two ways to take on McCain's celeb theme... the first is with humor and ridicule, the second is with contrast...

Humor ad example...

Background music... Trammps - Burn Baby Burn (Disco Inferno)

Narrator - With the economy declining, gas prices rising... with the costs of milk and food increasing and good jobs decreasing...

Picture of long lines outside of failed bank, Gas station sign with high gas prices, grocery store milk aisle with high milk prices... fade to chained factory gate...

John McCain wants to talk about fading starlets...

(pictures of Brittney and Paris on covers of teen mags)

old movies...

(shot of Keanu Reeves from the Matrix)

and empty promises...

(clip of McCain's 2013 speech)

is this what Republicans think is leadership?

...Music switches to Barak theme

Sen. Barak Obama has taken the lead on crafting serious solutions to the serious challenges that matter to all Americans...

(picture of Obama leading meeting with economic leaders, etc.)

and is addressing our concerns on energy, the economy, jobs, global warming and keeping us safe...

(picture of Obama with world leaders)

While John McCain plays entertainment trivia, Sen. Obama unites Americans to find solutions...

Picture of Obama speaking in front of Phila. City Hall.


Contrast ad...

Narr: When ordinary people do bold things, Americans approve...

(screen flashes pictures of astronauts on moon, Jackie Robinson sliding home in Yankee Stadium, Branson's X Plane winning competition)

When every day people are encouraged to participate in their government Americans approve...

(Screen flashes pictures of JFK in front of crowd, BO in Phila)

And when America lives up to it's promise... the world approves...

(Flash to BO Berlin shot)

Sen Barack Ombama's wants to change the way Washington works, recruit Americans to take back their government and restore Americas place in the world...

What could be more popular than that!

The way for Obama to attack the celebrity line, I think, would be to say something along the lines of, "I welcome and am honored to have so many millions of supporters."

Flip "celebrity" to "popular."

I remember him doing really well with this at the Ohio (or was it Texas) debate against Hillary:

Now, I think Senator Clinton has a fine record, and I don't to denigrate that record. I do think there is a fundamental difference between us in terms of how change comes about. Senator Clinton of late has said "let's get real." And the implication is, is that, you know, the people who have been voting for me or involved in my campaign are somehow delusional and that the 20 million people who have been paying attention to 19 debates, and the editorial boards all across the country at newspapers who have given me endorsements including every major newspaper here in the state of Texas you know, the thinking is that somehow they're being duped and that eventually they're going to see the reality of things.

Well, I think they perceive reality of what's going on in Washington very clearly. And what they see is that if we don't bring the country together, stop the endless bickering, actually focus on solutions and reduce the special interests that have dominated Washington, then we will not get anything done. And the reason that this campaign has done so well the reason that this campaign has done so well is because people understand that it is not just a matter of putting forward policy positions.

Senator Clinton and I share a lot of policy positions. But if we can't inspire the American people to get involved in their government, and if we can't inspire them to go beyond the racial divisions and the religious divisions and the regional divisions, that have plagued our politics for so long, then we will continue to see the kind of gridlock and non-performance in Washington that is resulting in families suffering in very real ways.

I'm running for president to start doing something about that suffering and so are the people who are behind my campaign.

Exactly!

That's how I think he should counter this celebrity nonsense.

"Obama: 20 million supporters can't be wrong"

It's pretty ridiculous to criticize a politician for having lots of supporters and being a good speaker when so much of the job is about galvanizing support and negotiation. It's like criticizing a lawyer for making persuasive arguments.

That basketball player is too good at making baskets...

Yes...made a similar point below. I'd like to see this argument take off. Obama is actually good at what he's doing and this is a BAD thing? This is what American politics has come to?? Let's pull everyone down to our level and elect a guy we can have a beer with....how'd that work out?

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Really true. The trick is to package it to fit McCain. History never repeats itself exactly, and McCain ain't Clinton.

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McCain recently scrubbed from his campaign website a news report describing him as a "political celebrity." It's clear his handlers were worried this could be used to deflect this stupid issue.
See the following from... http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3715

August 1st, 2008 by Ron Chusid

McCain’s celebrity attack on Obama was ridiculous all along, but now it looks even worse for McCain. Digby found this article had been removed from McCain’s web site, but it remains in the Google cache. (Hat tip to Crooks and Liars).

NEW YORK (AP) - Republican Sen. John McCain said he will officially enter the presidential race … with a formal announcement in early April after a trip to Iraq.

The Arizona senator discussed the timing of the long-expected announcement with reporters at an awards reception Wednesday evening a few hours after taping an appearance on CBS’ “Late Show with David Letterman.”

On the talk show, McCain told Letterman: “I am announcing that I will be a candidate for president of the United States,” then added that he would give a formal speech to that effect in early April.

[...]

There had been no doubt that McCain would eventually become a full-fledged White House candidate, and he had been expected to make his candidacy official in the spring.

The 2006 midterm campaign had just ended when McCain took the first formal step toward a presidential run in November. He formed an exploratory committee and gave a speech casting himself as a “common-sense conservative” in the vein of Ronald Reagan who could lead the party back to dominance after a dreadful election season by returning to the GOP’s core principles.

A political celebrity, McCain is considered a top contender for the nomination.

I agree with many of the above. The Obama camp should avoid the celebrity theme, though I did like Obama's reference last night to McCain's getting in a fight with Paris Hilton. That's a keeper.

The politics of celebrity are awfully complicated, for the boundaries between heroism, celebrity, fame, renown, infamy are tough to delineate. (Disclosure: I am writing a book on this very topic, so I'm inclined to see it as complex.) Obama should just stick to the issues and stick to the theme that McCain wants to avoid them by talking about trivialities.

The real people who should be ticked at McCain are Obama's supporters and activists who are being reduced to mindless teeny-boppers and fanatics. Sometimes we're over-educated liberals out of the touch with the mainstream; other times we're 9 year olds singing along with Hannah Montana.

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And, another statement that will get no press and be ignored. Obama has to go on the airwaves and start "defining" mcbush. This is turning out to be a referendum on obama, which isn't a good thing. Obama should be defining mcbush as worse than a 3rd king term. He better get on the stick.

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"I really wonder whether the Obama camp should be confronting the "celeb" thing a bit more directly, though I confess I'm not sure how one would do that."

My two cents: Do a commercial portraying John McCain as a celebrity, or better yet, "a media darling".

Clips of McCain on Letterman, cameos in movies, etc. Then suggest he's just "grumpy" (always reinforce the grumpy) that he's been bested at his own game.

Another response ad...

pening with a white haired man (John McCain look alike) face covered by an entertainment mag, with a pile of People/US/National Enquirer mags at his feet, that he is thumbing through (while sitting on the john) as the narrator drones...

"Sen. McCain apparently has nothing better to do than spend his time looking at the entertainment rags and rating who's the current celebrity (he turns page) while the economy goes down the toilet, gas goes up, jobs go overseas and people's homes get flushed!
(Switch to a picture of the Portland primary rally) while thousands of Americans are looking for a leader."

I would take the celebrity mag theme and ram it down his throat with humor! Make him laughable.

This ad has all the right stuff:

"George Bush's tired, failed policies ..." "... another dishonest attack from John McCain ..." "... time to retire these old policies ..."

McCain is blabbing about "celebrity" because that is all he's got. Barack should hit with facts, policies and, oh yeah, the guy hugging George W. Bush is "old and dishonest."

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"...Barack should hit with facts, policies..."

Ugh. Haven't we learned facts don't win arguments in America? it's the frame, man!

I can't believe the left hand-wringing about the celebrity label. McCain's campaign can waste a billion dollars on these ads and they won't change the fact that McCain has nothing to offer. Nothing. Hell, the ads are damaging their own brand. McCain has been reduced to a punch line at the end of all of his ads--even the supposedly serious 'mavericky' ones look idiotic now.

So, Obama is awesomely popular, like a celebrity? Uh... Good.

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Word. :)


Exactly. McCain percieved image of being a maverick is being destroyed by these ads and claims. I haven't meant a person who believes some how being celebrity is a bad thing.

Independent voters, apart from those who already have a certain agenda, wouldn't seriously equate Paris Hilton with anything.

I don't believe in polls, not the ones this early anyway. Obama is winning right now and winning by a big margin.

I agree that a video with McCain's celebrity appearances would be great, but I think the video should intersperse Obama speaking in front of large crowds with McCain's appearances and then ask the question "Who's the celebrity and who's the leader?"

Or maybe a statement should just be made - "There's a difference between being a celebrity and a being a leader."

Newest poll shows that America is tired of hearing about Obama - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/ap_on_el_pr/poll_obama_overexposure. Maybe that is McCain's plan, make it about Obama all the time and people will get so tired of him (especially after the long primary) that they'll vote McCain just so they don't have to hear about Obama anymore. Sneaky, sneaky.

The long and hard-fought democratic primary is possible reason of this. It's natural. That's why Obama is focusing now on issues and McCain is sticking to the celebrity calling.

McCain can't go back to issues, just look what happen in the tire gauge aspect. He throw the first rock and now he can't suddenly stop. He has no choice. Maybe the celebrity subject helps him to rally a not so energized GOP base. Look to the registration numbers. Dems are killing the GOP in new voters.

The edge of the first TV ad was the comparison to Britney and Paris. With that element gone (thanks in part to Paris herself), the impact is lukewarm.
Still, Obama should continue on the offense.

MoveOn or other group should make an ad with McCain's roles on SNL, Wedding Crashers and 24.

The celebrity meme is not bad on it's own. Remember, this strategy was used on multiple "celebrities". It's the fact that he BLATANTLY lies on the ad. For example, How does higher taxes and greater govt spending = less jobs? It's a statement that makes very little sense.

Obama should highlight that aspect of the ad and then turn it around by attacking McCain as "not an expert on the economy".

Obama is doing exactly the right thing -- issues v. insults. The McCain camp is like a bunch of Junior High boys engaged in some name calling contest that they find very amusing, but nobody else cares about. Obama, by contrast, is talking issues. It is how Bill Clinton dealt with George HW Bush in 1992. It worked then, it will work again. While Republicans are the masters of negative campaigning, they tend to lose their edge when reality finally makes it clear they can't govern. We've reached that reality.

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Worked great for Kerry, and Dukakis, and Mondale...

Drew Westen, Ph.D., Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at Emory University, and author of "The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation," at HuffPo on Sunday:

Recent history--as recent as the midterm election of 2006, when Congressman Harold Ford went down to defeat in a race-baited campaign for Senate in Tennessee against a white candidate whose stump speech and advertising centered on the question, "Who's the real Tennessean?"--suggests that Democratic "politics as usual" (i.e., when something unpleasant comes up, avoid it and talk about Social Security and Medicare) does not disarm these kinds of stealth racial appeals. Nor do facts.

Emphasis added.

Words to live by.

If you want to win an election.

here's your response:

"While the McCain campaign continues to focus on nonsensical things, Sen. Obama will continue to present his ideas on policies that will help American families feed and clothe their children, obtain quality health care, and attain financial security. The McCain campaign's seemingly irrational approach - attacking Sen. Obama because he's popular - echoes the irrationality of their policies on other issues."

I think we will hear something like this come out of Obama's mouth soon.

I don't think you match this by saying "but so are you!" The point is that having people follow you is the same thing as LEADING. People actually like Obama and agree with him. This is what you hit with. Why is it a bad thing for Americans to like and be proud of their president?? The answer is, you're damn straight people are excited. What've you got??

The celebrity ads don't make sense for McCain. These ads really undercut him or show him to be clueless. Yet there they are.

Why?

I believe ads are seeds, planted for some less apparent reason as part of a larger strategy.

Personally, I'm expecting a 'who-could-have-foreseen-that' moment. My speculation is that McCain will chose a known Bush loyalist (Portman?) as vp then, come early October, withdraw for health reasons.

The question posed by the "celebrity" ads:

"But is (Obama) ready to lead?"

The answer:

"Yes!"

Iraq Iraq Iraq.

We can't just talk about Exxon and tax breaks for big oil.

Iraq, health care, economy.

He needs to have a prepped list of the top 10 Bush/McCain failed policies at hand to whip out every single time he needs to address McSame's stupid slime.

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What are we, historians?

Haha. Oops, I forgot this is Amurrica. Can we get some biker babes in here?

Speaking as a marketing advertising professional, I don't know how the McCain camp could know if this campaign will have any long-term effect. My guess would be is that it showed well in focus groups and so they ran with it. However, the immediacy of focus groups cannot predict anything that you expect to change gradually, and I'm not sure "celebrity" is the most damaging possible definition that McCain can put on Obama. Considering that Obama's policies are much more family-friendly than McCain's, I just don't see how this damage sticks.

I'm not sure "celebrity" is the most damaging possible definition that McCain can put on Obama

"Celebrity" is the vehicle by which they can PAIR ditzy blond sex symbols with intellectual black scary boogie man.

Are you forgetting your Karl Rove?

"[Obama is] the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette that stands against the wall and makes snide comments about everyone who passes by."

Again, the "celebrity" gag is obviously a vehicle for the coded racial attack. Ala Harold Ford Jr. "Call Me" ad.

While Paris' sendup is funny, it just gives more legs to the celebrity status issue.

Paris may be funny, but she's still ditzy. By acting as the surrogate Obama in the ad she paints him as ditzy too.

Obama is Paris Hilton is the takeaway.

For reals? When discussing McCain, there's an image of the Crypt Keeper. She destroys him as an angry old dude. Clearly you don't understand anyone under the age of 40 because Paris does more good for Obama in two minutes than he could do for himself in a week. Keep pretending the world doesn't view your candidate as Methuselah.

Clearly you don't understand the power of advertising.

Clearly you don't understand that the baby-boom, all over 50, is by far the largest voting demographic in the country.

Clearly you don't understand the validity of the adage "If you don't vote Democratic when your young you don't have a heart, if you don't vote Republican when your old you don't have a brain".

Ad net:
Obama: -2
McCain: 0

Chicken: You're

As in, "You're a chicken. Squawk"

Turkey.

The last few days have taught me not to doubt the Obama campaign. Just when we thought they were rolling over like other Dem campaigns, they hit back hard and effectively. Let McCain push the celebrity angle. Long-term it's awesome for Obama. Dems loved to call W stupid, which allowed him to come out on top just by showing up and not drooling on his tie. What's the implication of the celebrity angle? That Obama's an empty suit. So when he steps on stage with McCain and shows his mastery of policy and comes off as smarter and quicker than McCain, the celebrity meme will implode and Obama will leap ahead. What makes the celebrity angle so stupid is that Obama is one of the smartest candidates in a generation. They're practically teeing it up for him.

Yes. Of course, you would have expected them to learn their lesson after double-dog daring him to go abroad...as if he'd say something stupid.

Obama looked presidential. McCain looked petty.

And scared, thus the attacks on Obama's character.

So now they're teeing up to say that this man, who graduated near the top of his law school class, is an empty suit, compared to the moronic hothead who--skating in to Annapolis on the Daddy Plan--graduated near the bottom of his class.

Just do an add reminding the right wings nuts that Ronald Reagan was an actually movie Celebrity who became transformative President. Funny how he is now revered by the Replicans. THis should nullified any more of these silly ads.

I was thinking the same thing. May be not by the Obama camp, for two reasons: 1) They don't want to get their hands dirty 2)They don't want "Sir, you're no Reagan or JFk" quip.

Someone like Moveon.org can make an ad showing Reagan, JFK and their popularity. Having said that most independents will not buy this crap.

Yes.

Obama = Reagan.

Very shrewd.

Next remind them that Nixon had a plan for ending the quagmire war.

Obama = Nixon.

Those to comparisons should work well.

Actually, chicken, he was referring to John McCain -- wanna-be movie star, wanna-be Presidential candidate -- not Barack Obama.

Nice try. For a chicken.

Btw, you sure do post a lot on here, troll. Does the "celebrity" backlash make you nervous?

What are you, chick... Oh. Right.

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here's the thing: mccain has clearly settled on this "celebrity" meme for obama. i doubt anything obama does to respond, whether it be responding on issues alone or actually bringing up mccain's own long history of being a "celebrity" will make mccain drop this line of attack.

So...how do you defuse it? keep attacking on the issues and don't get bogged down into a pissing contest over who's really the biggest celebrity.

Mock McCain's campaign for not talking about issues. They want to talk about paris and brittney because they have no real solutions. And then, list all of your solutions to the various problems americans are facing.

Obama has to show he has the answers, the substance to back up his style. And he does have the substance so it shouldn't be too hard to do.

Now, this may not be a satisfying and it definitely won't calm down the people who say Obama should punch McCain in the gut hard with a response ad, but it may be effective.

After all, the problems we face are too severe for us to fall into this trap again. We have to (and i know this is scary because they've let us down before) trust the american people to see through this and realize John McCain has no real answers to our various challenges.

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Show Reagan, Sunny Bono, and Schwarzenegger as CELEB's REPUBLICANS voted for and IDEALIZE.

Uh, you forgot Gopher from the Love Boat....

McCain attempts to make two points with the new ad that must be addressed: (1) Obama lacks practical experience and (2) Obama really does not care about the problems of common people. The response is simple:

1. Obama has always fought to tackle practical, every day problems involving working and middle class people. Disadvantaged background; pulled himself up by the bootstraps; community organizer directly addressing jobs, health care and housing issues; and just recently paid off college loans and made a modest fortune by his own labor. McCain got his entry into the navy academy because his father and grandfather were admirals. He rewarded that gift by finishing 896th from the bottom of his class. He divorced his first, disabled wife to marry a wealthy beer heiress who then financed his entry into politics.

2. Who cares more? Obama has worked with the problems that we all face. He has stood against the mistakes of the Bush administration that even John McCain acknowledges. Who will really do more for you as president? Consider that one time Maverick John McCain has gone from 90% voting to support for Bush to a 100% support for Bush in the past year when he is even there. John McCain is too busy running for president to attend to his senatorial duties. He has missed ___ votes. He missed the votes on the following important bills to support the troop and families: Add list.

Obama puts it better:

“In the Coming Days It’s Going to Be Interesting Watching this Debate Between John McCain and John McCain”

1. Is true.
2. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Next!

Showing Reagen, Schwarzenegger, Sonny Bono and such would be accepting Obama is a celebrity meme and then trying to justify it be saying "these guys were too". So that line of attack wouldn't work. I don't think showing McCain as a celebrity necessarily works either (though I pushed up up in this thread), because it basically sends the same message "McCain is too".

I think the best line of attack is to keep shaming and mocking the mere suggestion, and then slamming McCain for taking the gutter low road he is on.

Yes, compare Obama favorably with three Republicans who won office and were despised by Democrats.

Obama = Republican.

That should work well.

What are you talking about? I was saying don't do it because...

OK, may bad on a quick read.

OK, my bad on a quick read

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You have to hand it to the GOP they do a great job of taking the opponents strength, in this case Baracks ability to inspire, and turn it into a negative, he's just a celebrity. I'm not sure it's working this time but they're making a good go of it.

Why can't Barack do the same thing. McCain's biggest strength is his experience. Why not paint him as a Washington insider. He should run ad after ad reminding people that McCain has been in Washington his whole life and is out of touch with the needs of America. This should work well because it's largely true and would serve to turn McCain's strength into a weakness. Remind people that he's one of the longest serving members of the same Congress they hate so much.

Barack must realize by now that McCain is going to make this a dirty campaign. Baracks poll numbers went down last week but not because the McCain ads made a good point, they were stupid, but because Barack didn't answer forcefully enough. America can't stand someone who won't fight back no matter how outrageous the attack. If the attack is stupid then call it stupid as loudly as you can but you ignore it and it will become the truth and you will be seen as a coward.

One final note. John Kerry needs to go back to Massachusetts and wind surf for the next four months. He's a wimp plain and simple. I thought he was a wimp in 2004 even though I voted for him and I still do. If I have to watch another Meet the Press with him and a McCain supporter again I think my head will explode. All he does is grin and say that Barack is right but I love McCain to while the McCain supporter says Barack is a empty suite that is unfit to lead and McCain is great. By the end I'm not even sure that Kerry is going to vote for Barack but I do know that he's got a man crush on McCain. Kerry if you want to know why you couldn't beat Bush despite the he never polled over 50% approval during the campaign, because you suck. If you could run against him again today with a 28% approval you would still loose because you suck. America hates wimps and that's what you are. At some point since you fought in Vietnam and now you lost a valued piece of the male anatomy and you are now a wimp.

I couldn't agree more on Kerry.

Send him to the showers.

It's unrelated to the topic but you should look at this:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12337.html

Not so bad!

The only way for Obama to handle this celeb thing is to poke fun at McCain's frivolousness, keep talking the issues and ride it out! After awhile, the ads will become annoying to everyone and, in the meantime, Obama should keep his sense of humor and continue talking about serious solutions to serious problems. The underlying message will be: McCain's into sheer shallowness while Obama's into the deep. After the Olympics wane out, Obama's "emperor has no clothes" fun-poking at McCain's strategy and Obama's thoughtful policy stances will turn into his greatest assets.

Not sure they have really turned it into a negative for Barack, although they are trying desperately to do that.

So, their best shot is "OK, Obama is way cool and really popular all over the world and a great speaker and all but, hey, that's all there is to him. All those millions of people who like him are just stupid and shallow because he doesn't have anything else. He is just an empty suit and if we say this over and over and over it will start to stick."

That's what they've got?

He doesn't need to do that much. All he needs to do is quip once in a while "He's just jealous cuz I'm stealing the spotlight HE got used to all those years - those years of being George Bush's best buddy maverick."

Just keep making McCain look silly with it all. Paris showed the way.

I sense that Obama and his crew are getting a handle on it. It's not as biting as we'd like it to be, but they are not ducking anymore.

I love the McCain vs McCain debate remark. Perfect.

I think you miss the point:

You're showing McCain being a starfucker to Celebs turned Politicos, and that the Republican Party has been the party of Celebs turned Govs and Presidents.

It's not to tie Obama to Celebs. It's to tie McCain to Celebs in his own party.

It's about hipocracy of McCain and his campaign tossing out the Celeb card when they themselves love celebs.

It makes the Celeb issue moot as both hipocritical and silly, with McCain talking out of both sides of his mouth. Which are key points the Obama campaign needs to get across:

McCain will say anything, often without taking time to see if it makes sense.


John

This might be the "low road" but this is only the tip of the iceberg of what is in store for Obama before this election is decided Nov 4th.

It's going to get ugly.

Not just ugly. "Scorched Earth" comes to mind.

This ad is a huge HUGE gamble by McCain. Effectively, John and his crew are redefining the race from it is either John or Barack to it is Barack is either ready or not to lead. Through changing the narrative as such, John is taking himself out of the equation.

All Obama needs is strong debate performances and the question on is he ready to lead is answered. Bad bad bad move on John's part to do this changing of the narrative.

The way to counter the Obama-is-a-celebrity ads is not to show that McCain is a celebrity also (he just hasn't gotten the same adulation), but to show that Obama is a substantive, not superficial, candidate.

Obama needs to focus on these issues health care, economy, jobs, gasoline prices, food prices, housing, college aid and energy! This is what this election is truly about.

Celebrity ads, THE ONE, et al are distractions from the meat and potatoe issues that families are dealing with. McFuddle has no plans for these problems and he and the GOP are toast if this message gets thru all the haze from McFuddle.

When Obama drives this message home then the election is his and it won't be even close!

Bingo!

Oilbama should be ashamed that he was so successful in voting for the 2005 Energy Bill, written in secret by Vice President Cheney and the energy lobby. Thomas Friedman referred to the bill as “the sum of all lobbies.” U.S. PIRG noted that the bill’s “heavy tilt toward big oil companies reflects the influence of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies on policy-makers in Washington, DC.”

Kind of tough to keep harping on Obama's "celebrity when a potential Veep frames it this way:

"Say what you will about Barack Obama," the Minnesota Republican told GOPAC, "people gravitate when you have something positive to say." He added that McCain has been positive as well, in comments to the group's first annual State and Local Summit, taking place outside Washington in Arlington, Va..

"People want to follow hopeful, optimistic, civil, decent leaders," Pawlenty said. "They don't want to follow some negative, scornful person."

I think people are missing the point here. The issue in these ads is not Obama's "celebrity", it's the question "is he ready to lead." And the answer is "Yes."

Spot begins similarly with images of Barack in front of crowds "He's the candidate of change (hope). But is her ready to lead? -- Yes!" Cue editorial endorsements, cue images of him with foreign leaders, talking to US generals, looking presidential, cue details of energy policy and images of him highlighting renewables, cue images of him from Iraq with Hagel. Then have a quote from and Obama speech saying something to the effect of "We have a decision to make between the old (cue image of McCain) failed (cue image of Bush) policies of the past, and the bright future we can create together. (crowd roars approval).

If you wanted to get into the celebrity thing, you could get a bunch of respected celebrities together saying in succession (with maybe ordinary folks mixed in) "I am a celebrity". Then have them say in succession "Barack Obama is not a celebrity, he's a leader." Same succession of images to follow. But that's kind of secondary.

This isn't rocket science. I mean, they ask the question in their ad. Just answer it for them.

Agree with answering the "ready to lead?" question in the affirmative.

Disagree that the silly "celebrity" tag from the McCain sneer/smear ad should be used. Why?

The issue is leadership, not celebrity. Don't get into a silly slapfight with the McCainiacs. That is so junior high. Respond to the leadership question and you have answered the smear without lowering yourself to McCain's level.

Agree with answering the "ready to lead?" question in the affirmative.

Disagree that the silly "celebrity" tag from the McCain sneer/smear ad should be used. Why?

The issue is leadership, not celebrity. Don't get into a silly slapfight with the McCainiacs. That is so junior high. Respond to the leadership question and you have answered the smear without lowering yourself to McCain's level.

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"Obama should just stick to the issues and stick to the theme that McCain wants to avoid them by talking about trivialities."

MercerReader has it exactly right. This election is about more than just a change of direction for our country, change in leadership. It's about a hcange in the American people. They've been lied to, deceived and distracted for close to eight years. Many of these lies have been exposed and people are fed up. They are looking for elected officials who will be straight forward with them. they are looking for someone who earnest in their positions. People have supported Barack Obama because he understands. He gets it.

The problem McCain has (other than voting with Bush 90% of the time) is that his policies are simply an echo of failed Republican policies. Much of his life, growing up, has been spent on Naval bases around the world and sequestered from the average American and it shows. McCain doesn't get it.

BTW, I love this for a slogan:

"Obama: 20 million supporters can't be wrong"

Oh for crying out loud - it's a presiential campaign. They're all celebrities! Look at Edwards. Clinton. Ron Paul. Huckabee for chrissake. It's just that McCain is twisting it for those who are easily twisted. He's giving those pre-disposed to pettiness the permission to be petty. It's a school yard taunt. You're a pussy. A girlie man.

Gee. Now that you point it out, you're right.

Think abuot it: Crazy Eddy here is trying to convince you NOT to buy that car over there because it is what? too popular? Instead, my friend, (insert: weird grin) buy this old car here. Still runs. Just rotated the tires. Inflated them myself.

Not exactly a good marketing strategy. Unless you'r an idiot.

All Obama really needs to say is "Sorry. We're not buyin' it. We need some new ideas. We need a government that runs. We need a government that gets better gas mileage. We need new tires (properly inflated), We need insurance coverage for all the passengers. We need to get going. We've got places to go. Bye"


Everybody's fussing about the "celebrity" attacks, but although they got a lot of media attention, I don't see them as being that effective. This week Obama is back on top in all the polls by a small margin. McCain, meanwhile, seems to have a ceiling of 44 percent in Gallup. Meanwhile, in the electoral college projection based on state polls, which is what really matters, Obama has been steadily building a significant lead.

Poor Barry! Barry will lose, Bill Clinton won't support him. McCain/Clinton 2008. The McCain advertisement will go down in history with Daisy LBJ commercial. Barry is an empty suit...Berliners don't vote in the US ( except maybe in Chicago). Barry has no nuts as the Reverend Jessie cut them off cause Barry was talking down ...

Bingo!

Been saying this for weeks (at home)--

Makes him look like a cranky old man yelling at kids on his lawn!

Hey--what happened?? I was replying to this (upstream) from Observer:

"I think they should call McCain's constant whining and obvious jealousy as being just that: petty whining.

Better yet, let some surrogates do it. Cast McCain as the serial complainer and whiner, always bitter and griping."

Obama doesn't need to fight the celebrity thing, just circulate the complete Paris Hilton video.

Obama can't said McCain is older than dirt, but Paris did.

McCain should be more careful when choosing his targets . . . some have the time, talent and money to fight back.

Ha!

They managed to fit "tired, "old," "retire" and "new energy" in there.

That's going to be a continuing theme.

the obama campaign's response: "blah blah blah blah blah zzzzzzzzzz...."

the only response the obama camp needs: "i understand why mccain is so focused on obama being more popular with the american people than mccain. but i can't quite figure out why mccain seems to be so obsessed with paris hilton and britney spears. and that's all i have to say on the matter - barack obama would prefer to focus on real issues that affect ordinary americans."

and if asked about it: "is john mccain still talking about paris hilton and britney spears??"

dismissive ridicule is the only way to respond.

McCain is moth. Did you ever notice that whenever camera lights are on there are always moths flying around

I always thought the one thing every Politian wants, craves and would sell their soul for is popularity (i.e. celebrity). Do you know what they call all of those “fans” of Barack Obama? VOTERS

: dramatic music :

Announcer: John McCain is a celebrity ...

Video shows .. McCain talking to 5 people in the cheese aisle, then 12 people at a gas station, then 7 people at another location.

Announcer: who America can be proud of ...

Video shows: McCain ridiculing tire pressure ..

Fade to Obama-style SUBSTANCE background,

Video shows: Obama's campaign stop in Oregon, etc where 75,000 appear. show the SUBSTANCE of the speeches. let the voters draw the comparison.

We've just posted ringtone-ready audio from this ad over at Entertonement.

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