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New McCain Web Ad: "Hot Chicks Dig Obama"
The latest McCain Web ad takes the "Celeb" tag to a whole new low -- it proclaims that "Hot chicks dig Obama":
"We know he doesn't have much experience, and isn't ready to lead, but that doesn't mean he isn't dreamy," says the announcer, followed by footage of two women at rallies -- both of whom are white, mind you -- complimenting Obama's looks.
How long until "Barack, call me" ends up in a McCain paid TV ad?
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stay classy, john mccain!
August 11, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is merely part of the high-minded, "respectful campaign" he promised everyone.
August 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you expect from the guy who proudly boasted in 2000 of "hating gooks".
He also calls his trophy home-wrecker wife a c*nt.
Oh, he's classy alright.
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Where's McCain's girlfriend, Vicki Iseman?
August 11, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait, is this seriously an official McCain ad? Really??
Un-fucking-believable. He is taking his childishness to new, profound levels.
Although on the up side, it makes Obama come across as pretty awesome, especially since I know the only real attack in the whole thing (the tax increase) was a flat out lie (not that I'd give a shit anyways).
August 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eh, I think this one is silly but harmless. No real claims in there, and at this point the fluffy stuff is kinda take it or leave it. I honestly don't think most of it makes Obama look bad.
The Obama folks should knock off the same ad using McCainiacs, to re-emphasize the point they made with their earlier ad. Maybe use old white guys professing their man-crushes on McCain.
I think the McCain campaign is using the celebrity stuff to divert the media (and us) from fact-checking all their ridiculously blatant lies about Obama's tax plan, which is probably what they are trying to implant in the subconscious of every swing voter in America.
Maybe the Obama campaign should add a throwaway line to its McCain celebrity ad, "Did we mention he wants to go to war with Iran?" and throw in McCain singing "Bomb Iran." That would be about the equivalent.
IOKIYAR!
August 11, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
it's hard to believe that this is a real ad. blatant lies, increasingly less subtle racism, and Wayne and Garth? is this what our Presidential elections are about?
August 11, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfnnn believable!!! I could only shake my head at this stupid ad. Wow!!! They just keep lying to America too!!! Obama doesn't need to waste the many donations and his time to respond to this stupidity!!!
August 11, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
As someone who has been wringing his hands over these ads as being effective, I'm starting to think McCain has finally pushed it too far.
This could be the official sign: John McCain's "celebrity" ads have jumped the shark.
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August 11, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
He finally jumped the... Damn, you took my line...
August 11, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean "nuked the fridge".
August 11, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nuked the fridge, jumped the shark, whatever...
The decency line has been officially crossed.
This guys will do ANYTHING to win.
August 11, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
On top of everything else (and that's a lot), there's no way they got permission from Mike Meyers to use that Wayne's World clip. Talk about unworthy!
August 11, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was wondering about the rights to use the people and the Wayne's World clips too.
August 11, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this considered "fair use"?
August 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is absolutely NOT fair use. It isn't commentary on, or criticism of, Wayne & Garth.
August 12, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Ad is pretty lame. David Ploufe is right, i think Obama should continue to cash out on McCain's Ad.
August 11, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
btw, its no coincidence this resembles the harold ford ad.
they're just waiting someone to cry "race baiting". then mccain can feign righteous indignation and say "i would never do anything like that. Shame on Obama for injecting race into the campaign again."
its part of their strategy.
August 11, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's exactly the same message I got out of the ad too Freaktown.
McCain is baiting Obama or his surrogates to cry "racism". They will not rise to the bait, but some sorry liberal commentator might (Bob Herbert, et al).
Hopefully, this ad will die a quick, ignominious death.
August 12, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about horribly sexis?
August 11, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, sexist...
August 11, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ummmm....I'm speechless.
The Mccain campaign is run by adults, right?
August 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was rather my reaction as well. You almost get the impression that McCain is trying to lose.
August 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, you go on thinking that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
August 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I'd sleep even better if I thought they weren't trying to lose. Is that what you're saying, fogu? It's just happening by accident?
August 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I need help getting to sleep, I can always watch a video of McCain's speech to the DAV convention.
August 12, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Schmidt happens.
August 11, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's why it has to be turned from the race aspect to the "McCain doesn't care about how Americans care about this presidential election. Americans are excited to have actual change in Senator Obama, not more of the same in McCain.
McCain doesn't want you to care about this country, or the fact he sends American jobs overseas. (voice of American voter) I'm tired of John McCain making fun of my concern for this country. It's time to turn the tired old page, and vote for Senator Obama as our President who can move this country forward, not backwards."
August 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is a complete and utter piece of garbage. That is now clear. But one thing: people don't really think there is going to be any change in the drift of certain types of jobs overseas if Obama gets elected, do they? Obama has been a firm supporter of free trade except for the populist rhetoric he occasionally spews in states like MI and OH. And even if he wanted to do away with the WTO and NAFTA, he doesn't have the support of congress. In addition, there is a good case to be made that even with renegotiated trade treaties that include environmental and labor protections, it would be still be more cost-efficient to outsource (see Friedman's The World is Flat for more on this).
The best we can hope for is better condition for workers in other parts of the world. Most of these jobs are never coming back and more are going to leave. For example, a good chunk of tax preparation, low-level animation for Hollywood movies, and pretty much any other grunt-work media or information skill are already being done in India and other countries. We do need to move forward with a plan for the American economy, but it is not going to be one that restores the economy of the 20th century. It is going to be a green economy, a design economy, a conceptual age, etc. I guess Obama is going to have to pretend otherwise to take those swing states, but let's not delude ourselves.
I also have to add that the idea that certain work should be done here rather than elsewhere is just another form of xenophobic America first BS. Some folks might have this image of our clothes being made in sweatshops, but I think that is far from the norm (and we have some pretty bad conditions in many industries in this country, BTW). Certainly, the computer programmers and call-center workers in India are making far more than they would otherwise make, and they have health benefits, retirement plans, etc. I am all about improving health and safety everywhere in the world, but those folks in China and India have no less right to a good life than anyone in America does. There is no reason we shouldn't have to compete with workers in other countries as long as they are treated well and make a fair local wage.
I won't support any type of protectionism that hurts them to save us. We are just going to have to figure out our place in the world—and yes it is going to mean that if you want to be a factory worker, you will have to move to China, and if you want to be an accountant, you will have to move to India. If you stay here, you are gonna have to be educated and oriented toward the skills touted by Daniel Pink in A Whole New Mind. The more we fight to restore that which can never be restored, the more time we will waste that should have put toward what we can actually achieve. Our energy should be put toward mandating proper protections for those doing old economy work in developing countries and preparing Americans for the new economy here.
August 12, 2008 6:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
New York Manhole Covers, Forged Barefoot in India
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/nyregion/26manhole.html
August 12, 2008 8:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
His campaign is working hard to prove that McCain is very immature for a 72 year old.
August 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
dreary = dreamy?
August 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Taco Bell pay McCain for the placement?
August 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
It did make me kinda hungry for a taco :-)
August 11, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that looks like the ad for the "Federal Service" in the movie Starship Troopers. (That is not a compliment)
August 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are so on the money with that one. Surreal.
August 11, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Erik - I read the headline and immediately thought - they're Fording him.
I see you agree.
August 11, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is a stupid add. Are we sure McCain did this and not one of his mentally stunted supporters?
August 11, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The tax lies are once again repeated.
August 11, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is really the dumbest political ad I've ever seen. Even the semi-subliminal tax hike line comes off as forced, irrelevant, and untrustworthy. All McCain can possibly be doing with these ads is trying to hold down the 68+ age group, and even at that, it may produce some defections.
August 11, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this ad is directed more at the College Republican asshole demographic.
August 11, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you meant to say it may cause some defecations...
August 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope this ad backfires for him just like the Tinka/Cohen race in TN. Just makes me want to donate even more to Obama.
Shame on you McCain. Shame on you. I'm tired of the small townhall meetings, empty rhetoric...meet me in St. Louis!
August 11, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain 08;
'Cause remember, they can't swim
August 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
or see at night
August 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you. I laughed my ass off at that.
August 11, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
So would McCain classify them as cunts like he
did his wife when she was concerned about his
looks.
August 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The one good thing (other than Obama winning) coming from this election is that the media is finally falling out of love with John McCain. When you've lost Gloria Borger and David Gergen, you know you're in trouble, Grandpa.
So, in the end John, you really shouldn't have run for Pres at all. Not only are you not going to get the prize, your reputation when this is all over is going to be in the toilet with the remnants of Karl Rove's Chalupa Supreme.
August 11, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even his chief sycophant, David Broder, is getting squeamish over McBush's ads.
August 11, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yesterday, Broder was blaming the McCain ads on Obama, because Obama wouldn't agree to sit down with McCain and do a townhall "debate' a day until the election.
August 11, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm surprised they didn't use Cindy instead. And then add in Edwards and Bill to boot.
August 11, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is really pathetic...
McCain is doing a great job of making himself look like a sleazy used car salesman.
"Not worthy" of the job he is seeking.
August 11, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am BO supporter.... but it seems as if these types of ads are working... wouldn't you all agree?
August 11, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
With old white women scared of being raped by every black teenage they see on the street? Yes, I think it most certainly is.
August 11, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude or (s) - old white ladies who are scared of young black men aren't voting for him in the first place - that's McLame's constituency.
August 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, they're certainly succeeding in making McCain look petty and unpresidential.
(Meanwhile, Obama's national polling numbers remain strong.)
August 11, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
If they stopped with the first one, then maybe. But each time they push it a little further they get stupider and stupider.
August 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, what the hell is working about these ads? What evidence does anyone have that these are changing or influencing minds? Despite all the hype, the polls haven't moved, and I certainly can't understand how these are actually having an effect on anything. This one's even dumber than the other ones.
The message of this one seems to be "McCain thinks young people are stupid." I don't get it. Just because Republicans make them doesn't mean they're good or effective. Everyone needs to stop giving the ads so much credit and start making fun of them -- which is what they deserve.
August 11, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went back and looked at it again and have to say, no, that ad doesn't work at all. In fact it is pathetic.
It insults Obama supporters more than it does Obama. Do you really want to tell millions of people excited about politics for the first time that they are fools? I don't.
August 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
No audio here, but this is exactly one step removed from a McCain-financed (or eluded to) expose on the dating scene in Obama's Harvard/Columbia/Oberlin/high school life during which, statistically speaking, he was either rather shy and prudish or dating white women.
Whether McCain crosses that line or not was the line I drew in my mind some time ago as to whether or not he'd gone beyond the pale ("call me!" style) with the black man/white woman thing. Here's hoping this is as far as it goes because frankly Obama can't push back against racism without McCain winning the day as evidenced by the last manufactured dust-up.
Here's my recommendation to the Obama camp and supporters:
1. Go to rallies where McCain appears personally with a digital video camera.
2. Interview assembled supporters w/ two simple questions: "Why do you support John McCain?" "What would you say to a friend or family member who's going to vote for Barack Obama?"
3. Compile racist responses and distribute them
Unfortunately we're not at a point where you can combat racist imagery that's at all subtle. However, no one wants to be part of an advocacy group the contains outright racists, and exposing that part of McCain's coalition would help.
August 11, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excelent suggestion. To bad I live in a state where neither of them is likely to appear.
August 11, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tax hike for everyone making more than $42k? Are they really just allowed to lie about something is so clearly refutable?? And is this the time the masses are finally going to figure out that Republican tax policy does not benefit them??
And no, Lolo, I disagree that they are working. They are making him look like and obsessed, jealoour, grumpy old man. It still shocks me to see Paid for by John McCain on these ads. THIS is what America is longing for???
August 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reverse reverse psychology.
That ad is ridiculous and everyone knows it.....except that it is effective in achieving it's goal.
August 11, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that is what you need to tell yourself in order to sleep at night, fair enough. Beyond that, however, I cannot imagine whom you expect to fool with that line.
August 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
In that case I would think you and all Obamites would welcome it as it, at least in your mind, can only work against McCain.
August 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
In that case you should welcome and embrace it as it, in your mind, can only work against McCain.
August 11, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that goal reminding everyone on the planet McSame is the wrinkley OLD white haired guy one more time?
Cause that is what it did achieve.
August 11, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric - It's not "dreary" it's "dreamy." I mean, the ad itself is dreary - and idiotic - but the "joke" is that girls think he's dreamy.
And of course the women swooning over him are all white - on purpose. It's so that if the Obama campaign points that out OBAMA will be accused of playing the race card. That's their goal. They know it ties in to the Harold Ford ad. They WANT him to point it out. They WANT to goad him so they can say he's playing the race card. They're waiting to pounce on that one every chance they get.
August 11, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, I've fixed it. To be honest with you, I was too shocked to be as careful typing as I should.
August 11, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain threw the punch, and he's waiting for Obama to hit back with his right, and say that the ad is racist.
But what Obama should do is jab with his left - and say, "I am saddened that Senator McCain would run such an obviously sexist ad. This shows that he never had any desire to run the respectable campaign that he said he wanted."
Suddenly, its not Obama having to make the defense that he's not playing the race card - it's McCain having to defend that he was not being sexist.
August 12, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lets hope they spend another $6mil on the Olympics for this. Buzzkill #2.
So far I am not quibbling with Obama's 'wait till you see the whites of their eyes, then fire off a shot right between them strategy' and I am still not but IMO this would be a good time to really hammer what they sent in an email - that McCain is really insulting Obama voters, not Obama.
August 11, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
This can't be a real ad, can it? The editing is unprofessional, and the script is completely over the top.
August 11, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can already see Harold Ford on NBC denying that he sees any innuendo in this ad either.
August 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
He did not se any in the ad they ran against him. BTW even here in TN the 'call me' ad is not what lost it for Harrold Jr. He lost it when he ambushed Corker at a Corker rally. What do you think it would do in the presidential campaign if one of the candidates showed up at his oponents rally and started a fight? That got more free airtime on local news arround here than the comercial did.
August 11, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that the "Harold, call me" ad did not lead to Ford's defeat, but it was definitely quite a sleazy ad.
August 11, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we are in total agreement on the ad then.
August 11, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, and if a reporter asks me what I think about this ad, I'm going to say I don't see any racial innuendo in it either.
This is just bait. A dumb-ass web ad of this sort does zero damage until bloggers start complaining about racism. Then it becomes the kind of story CNN loves to run -- "is it racist or isn't it?" A question that doesn't help us either way.
Let's just hate the ad because it's juvenile and demeaning to women. Those are sufficient reasons.
August 11, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is not just demaning to women. Shoing those LD people as examples of Obama supporters insults us all.
August 11, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fair enough, and I agree that Obama, as the candidate, would also respond likewise. However, if Josh Marshall participated in such messaging strategy and thus modified his commentary, he would cease to be a realiable part of the new fourth estate.
August 11, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Further proof that if it cracks up the juveniles in the ad department, it get released.
If I were responsible for these crappy ads, I'd be running out into freeway traffic hoping to be hit by a semi.
August 11, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Green being the color of jealousy, it is now clear why McCain is partial to these kinds of ads. Obama's got the "Top Gun" hero status that jet fight pilots like McCain had during the Vietnam war. And that meant these pilots could score with any women they wanted. McCain ain't got that kind of appeal anymore, although he still had it enough when he was Obama's age that he could divorce and marry a rich blond 18 years younger. So McCain now projects onto Obama the kind of man McCain was when he was Obama's age.
This is a desperately sad ad on McCain's part.
August 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
You missed a part:
"he still had it enough when he was Obama's age that he could [b]openly commit adultery[/b], divorce and marry a rich blond 18 years younger"
August 11, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCentury keeps running these ads so they must be getting traction somewhere. Dumb racists?
One young republican in my office said, unprovoked, "Hey, even I'm voting for Obama!" These ads look so cheap (and cheaply made) and read so silly that I wonder when they backfire? Ever?
Who can take this clown seriously? He's got nothing but ads attacking Obama's popularity. Ads attacking Obama's supporters!
August 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're giving them too much credit for knowing what they're doing.
August 11, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm....
"Vote for me because everyone likes the other guy!" does seem to have limited traction.
What's next? "Vote for me or I'll start to cry!"??
This is getting seriously embarrassing.
August 11, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's no "I'm John McCain and I approve this ad" voice-over in this ad, although there is a paid for by John McCain 2008 at the end. A voice-over approval is a federal requirement.
August 11, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only required on broadcast television; not on the internet.
August 11, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, so it's not a TV ad and McCain can get away with not being personally attached to it. McCain has less guts than Bob Corker had when Corker ran the "Call me" TV ad against Harold Ford in 2006.
August 11, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you are in TN which do you think lost Ford more votes, the 'call me' ad or his ambushing Corker at a Corker rally? Can you imagine McCain jumping out of the straight talk express at an Obama rally and getting in his face? Who would lose that news cycle? I contend that it would be a 'Tank Moment'.
August 11, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Call me" ad. The "ambush" was childish, but what sticks in everyone's mind two years later is the "Call me" ad which got international attention at the time. Ford only lost by 3 points, and the "Call me" ad was enough of a dog whistle to have provided that margin to people who would have otherwise not bothered to vote for either candidate.
August 11, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
We will have to dissagree. Two years later and in the rest of the country the 'call me' ad may have more resonance but at that time, in this place (Memphis) the ambush was much more important.
I would argue that even with the ad it was the stink that urt him more than the ad itself. It distracted from the problems with the other ad that Corker was running at the time which lied about Harrold's voting record.
August 11, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ironically, a similar event to Ford's ambush precipitated Obama's catapult to the top of the party as well (Jack Ryan hiring people around IL to videotape Obama 24/7 with... less discretion than Jim Webb's crew). Totally agree that this sort of phony grandstanding had more to do with Ford's loss than GOP racebaiting. It's also emblematic of Ford's tragic flaws as a whole, and part and parcel of why I'm happier the Dems managed to retake the Senate +1 than +3 w/ Ford.
August 12, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Its on McCain's official youtube page so his people put it out. Now this is at the level of the Harold Ford ad.
August 11, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
With this ad, McSame is morphing into McLame.
August 11, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama needs to hit hard with some key points and themes:
• John McCain can attack me all he wants. But that doesn't bother me because my campaign isn't about me - and it isn't about John McCain - it's about YOU. My voice is nothing without yours. I am merely the loud-speaker for your hopes and dreams for our nation.
• People are not excited by me, Obama, the person. They're excited because they have hope. And hope for one's future, for the American Dream, and for our country is worth getting excited about.
• If John McCain wants to belittle your enthusiasm by comparing crowds of concerned and committed citizens such as yourselves, to a flock of signature-seeking groupies, then shame on him. He knows better. This isn't about red-carpets and paparazzi, this is about our nation's future - about your future.
• John McCain wants to change the subject, because straight talk isn't his friend any more. John McCain 'can't handle the truth', and the truth is, there are only two choices facing the American public this November: more of the same, or change.
• No matter how low John McCain and his handlers want to take this campaign, I will not go there. I will continue to champion the issues that matter to you, and to address the difficult challenges our nation faces. That's both change you can believe in, and the straight-talk you deserve.
Hammer those points home.
August 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
nicely done.
August 11, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice!!!!!! Send it to the camp for Obama!!!
August 11, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to change the topic, I am at work and just heard on the radio that McSame speech today on Georgia was plagiarized WikiPedia Does anyone know about this... if this is true, BO should jump on this like white on rice:-) Please tell me this is true.
August 11, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pretty flimsy: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/11/13382/2367/240/566223
August 11, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pot Kettle Black.
Obami can't go there.
August 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, he could. Unless of course McCain had Wikipedia's blessing to use their words.
August 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everything on WP is supposed to be in the public domain or licensed for public use. Wikipedia holds no copyright on any content AFAIK. It's risky to cite WP because it is open to anyone, so the GIGO principle can apply. Read WP, then check the discussion pages for controversies, and verify before using.
August 12, 2008 12:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, really? Unless wikipedia is a co-chair of McCain's campaign and gave him the copied line, there's no parallel between the two situations.
August 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hufff Post links to this story on their Politics page: http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politicalinsider/2008/08/did-mccain-plagarize-his-speec.html
August 11, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh has a post with a link on the main TPM page.
August 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the McSame campaign shamelessly cribbed online recipe as "belonging to Cindy," why should their cribbing history from Wikipedia be any surprise?
Expose it, and then nail their asses to the wall on it.
August 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the candidate conservatives want as president?
McCain's a pig. But he's a war hero, so the big media will never go after him. They don't have the guts because the conservatives will cry foul.
August 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he's a hog. Vrrroooooomm!
August 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
They're not only working to define Obama, they're working to negatively define the Denver acceptance event as well, to make Americans see (or feel like) foolish rubes or lovestruck teenagers on that historic night. As elucidated elsewhere, the target is the inspired voter, the hopeful, the politically engaged American.
All little jerks to a great man like John McCain.
August 11, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting observation. The Denver loveparade. People fainting in the aisles ala The Beatles. Chanting and genuflecting. Tears of joy and hallelujahs. Giant portraits of the fearless leader. Stigmata and dogma.
It's gonna be all dat.
And McCain will be right on the money with his celebrity representation.
August 11, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, you racists are just mad that you can't muster enough numbers for your own little Denver Nuremberg.
August 11, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting that you portray Denver as a little "Triumph of the Will". Leni Riefenstahl would be proud.
August 11, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was referring to the pathetic PUMA/KKK march that you losers will be staging, actually.
August 11, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, Riefenstahl was a great director, and judging by that whiny sour grapes documentary that's making the rounds, it looks like you guys were only able to get the white supremacist version of Ed Wood.
August 11, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
In that case as well as Obama's case, his handlers and imagemakers did a superb job. I agree. Hitler and Obama had something in common.
Godwin's Law invoked.
August 11, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In that case as well as Obama's case, his handlers and imagemakers did a superb job. I agree. Hitler and Obama had something in common."
Yawn. But the truth is, the similarities that you share with a turd are absolutely astounding.
August 12, 2008 8:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
fogu2, fess up. You're a shill paid with McCainiac points. How does it work...you get paid by the distortion, right? And the bigger the stretch back to a talking point, the greater the bonus?
This celebrity attack is an embarrassment, and should be to you. I know we're not supposed to feed the trolls, but let me toss you a scrap.
Let's say we all take our eyes and ears off Obama, as the McCain campaign would presumably like America to do. We turn to focus on McCain.
What does this funny little man, razzing Obama from the wings and who now has the spotlight and the mic, have to offer us, other than a continuation or even exacerbation of Bush's criminally negligent economic polices and simplistic, belligerent, and arguably criminal foreign policies?
And if what he offers is so powerful, valuable, or good for us, why doesn't he make this the centerpiece of his paid communications?
Answer is simple. The objective of McCain's campaign (including your faux "grassroots" role in it) is to make Obama seem alien, an other, unelectable, unAmerican, presumptuous, and therefore unacceptable.
This isn't inspiring. It's transparent and pathetic. Personal question, fogu2: don't you find it personally embarrassing and demeaning to shill in such a low road effort, when important issues confront our nation?
August 11, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I appreciate your willingness to try to understand someone who does not support Obama.
I do not support McCain. For real. Obama supporters assume anyone that is not on board must be a paid shill. Not so.
I support Hillary Clinton because I continue to believe she and not Obama can beat McCain. She and not Obama can successfully implement many of the programs and policies they, in theory, share. I do not believe Obama has the stability to stay with an particular position. He is too new to the vicious blood sport that is politics at the presidential level. He's not ready and I'm not sure if he ever will be.
McCain, like him or hate him, is a veteran and not just in the military sense. You don't survive what he survived both as a POW and a lifelong elected politician without the guts, fire-in-the-belly, and skills necessary. In short, he's a pro and Obama is essentially an amateur.
Obama is an unknown and the expectation that he is a miracle worker is a recipe for high-stakes gamble. He could be great, or a disaster. That is not a gamble we should take. Clinton has the stability, experience and savvy to deal with the pressures of presidential decisionmaking. Obama may or may not. He's an intern, a newbie, a potential super-star or a potential disaster.
Do you want the just out-of-school intern doing brain surgery on your mother or the surgeon who has years of successful experience?
Obama is not ready, no matter how good he speaks or how good his platform sounds. He's just not seasoned enough.
Clinton...Clinton...Clinton...Denver. That is the path forward if the Democrats want to be in the White House. Otherwise it's 4 or 8 years of McCain.
August 12, 2008 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, fogu2. Appreciate the explanation.
There is some illogic here, though, some unreality that leads your position to undermine Dem prospects. Time to face the fact that Obama is the candidate, and Clinton will not somehow step in as the nominee. Interested to hear the rational counter-argument, but I don't think there is one.
Given that premise, running the relentless anti-Obama line dovetails only with McCain campaign objectives. So, even if we take you at your word (and you're not just continuing the Limbaugh subversion) the delusion of a Clinton nomination has rendered you a de facto McCain shill.
I don't think there's any other analysis that holds water.
And by the way, the praise of McCain as the pro is hardly helpful and also nonsense. It was a collection of old pros that got us into the Iraq fiasco, saddled my kid with trillions in debt, crashed our economy with deregulated banks and four dollar a gallon gas, undermined our constitution and moral standing in the world, alienated our allies, and left us impotent in the face of a resurgent Russia.
Not to say that professionalism and experience - and wisdom - won't be required. They are. But I think you should rest assured that Obama's demonstrated clarity and routinely validated policy prescriptions - not to mention the galvanizing force of his very candidacy - will continue to bring the best and brightest to his team. Bill and Hillary included.
August 14, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is why I keep referencing College Republican frat boys when I reference his campaign. These guys are, in essence, running exactly the same kind of election you'd expect from the CR frat boy candidate for student body president at a large Southern university if the the opponent was a liberal black guy. Scaled up and better funded, but the mentality is the same.
August 11, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
NCSteve,
You have really nailed the "College Republican frat boy" comparison.
Well done!
August 11, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Exactly.
Instead of studying the last thirty years of American political history, you could just as well watch Revenge of the Nerds. It's all foreshadowed there. Asshole jocks vs. self-righteous nerds. Fighting over the "hot chicks," and occasionally over tax policy. Over and over again.
August 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reminds me of that scene in Borat where he hitchhikes with the RV full of southern frat boys.
August 12, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's put the Harold Ford thing to rest. Harold was a single guy who had a rep as a ladies man. There had been at least one playboy mansion episode. The Harold Ford ad worked because it reminded people of something about Harold.
There is zero evidence that Obama is a player. He is as strong a family man as exists.
He has a lot of strength among young people. This ad is Grandpa McCain's attempt to laugh at young people for supporting Obama. It ridicules them for even thinking that change is possible. Pointing that out is how you take this ad down. Forget the dog whistle, go for the throat. The old, wrinkly white haired guy doesn't think people under 60 should be trusted with the vote.
August 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's certainly how we should play it -- because, true or not, the "race" debate never helps us.
This ad is smarmy, contemptuous of young people, and demeaning to women. I think that'll do.
August 11, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Something like what you said.
I think more it is about cheapening Obama's brand - creating something about Obama that is the opposite of "gravitas" - frivolity? - making him look like a passing fad... not the real deal.
Watch, as this goes on, how they'll position McCain as the seasoned, rock-solid, 'leaderly' type - the perfect alternative to the flashy, no-substance celebrity.
First, establish Obama as the 'fling' - and then come home to the real man, McCain.
There is a sexual element to the adds, but I think it less about Obama, and more about making folks not identify with those (idiot) Obama supporters fawning over his "dreamy eyes" and "aura". (Heck, I'm an Obama supporter, but I can't identify with those marshmallow-brains either).
Unfortunately, I think Obama's response add - while accurate and landing a good punch - is going exactly in the wrong direction. McCain's add isn't really about celebrity status - it's about attacking Obama for a characteristic that they've identified as a vulnerability in people's perceptions about him. Those perceptions aren't there with McCain, so, while technically the Obama response is accurate (pointing out that McCain is the bigger celebrity), it does nothing to counter the questions McCain's celebrity-attack raises in people's minds (is Obama a passing fad, is he presidential material, are his supporters really just shallow-minded groupies?), nor does it effectively turn the tables on McCain since those doubts don't stick to McCain.
Obama needs to stay on-message. Don't get led by the McCain/Rove team into the "celebrity" thing. It ain't about celebrity anyhow. As I said, it's about exploiting a weakness they've identified. Obama should shore-up that weak spot by demonstrating presidential readiness in whatever ways he can, but also sticking with the "change" meme by not only identifying how McCain is the same as Bush, but also how an Obama administration will be different than Bush's.
Yes, the McCain adds are silly, but I think they will be effective unless Obama can continue to demonstrate that he's anything but a passing fancy, that he's a man of substance, understands the issues, and shows the kind of gravitas people expect of a president.
August 11, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not really. I've seen some of you. Ick. One word of advice: Waxing.
And for God's sake, stop tying yourselves in knots looking for racism in every ad! Just because the ad is anti-Obama does NOT mean it's racist! By your convoluted logic, any ad that's anti-McSame is automatically anti-white!
August 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its in the ad. Douchebag.
August 11, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this for real? It seems to me that everything in thes cycle is reduced to me trying to figure out if it from the Onion or not!
Had dinner with a NC republican recently, she is dismayed with McSame's nonsense. Brought up the subject that McSame's ads only address Obama while Obama's ads in NC to date (and I don't know as I am not from NC) address issues.
This is a dyed-in-the-wool R (NC via VA) from way back who was not amused by McCain.
Hopefully she is not alone.
August 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
She most definitely is not.
August 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I think GoogleEarth spotted one other one.
August 11, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The proper response from Obama camp should include an ad featuring a variety of his supporters, young and old, explaining on camera the serious reasons they support him for President. I do think he needs to place the focus more on the human, popular, reasons that this election -- and his candidacy -- matter. Theda S.
August 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, exactly right.
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because he understands why our schools are failing."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because he wants to help the middle class... for a change."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because our economy is so bad we can't stay with the same, failed ideas."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because he's shown excellent judgement in matters of war and peace."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because I want my grandchildren to live in a safer, saner world."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because our country needs to restore our reputation for decency in the world."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because I want a decent, intelligent human being in the White House."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because he knows we must end our oil addiction and commit to new, cleaner sources of energy."
"I'm voting for Barack Obama because..."
Each from a different person, young, old, black, white, latino, Christian, Jew, male, female.
August 11, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES. Very smart response.
August 11, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
This would be an excellent ad.
August 12, 2008 12:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Forget the Harold Ford dog whistle. This ad is a generational attack ad. It attacks young people as being frivolous and flighty. The message of this ad is that young people who believe Obama is a change agent are fools. This ad doesn't insult Obama as much as it insults Obama supporters. It says that nobody under 60 deserves the franchise.
August 11, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly right. It's really going after his supporters, hard. Is it OK to mock voters now, too?
August 11, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is definitly the way I saw it. I did not see the women in the ad as sexual beings. I saw them as borderline mental defectives.
August 11, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ding-ding! Y'all get the prize!
As I said above, this add is less about Obama, and more about casting doubt on Obama as a legitimate candidate by portraying him as just a passing fad - AND - by making those who're not strong supporters of Obama feel uncomfortable with the idea of associating with his supporters, who appear to be a bunch of brainless, shallow, hero-worshiping groupies. (The implicit unasked question is: you're not that stupid, are you?)
August 11, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMFG....I can't believe that a campaign for the POTUS put this ad together. It's bad in just about every way that I can think of.
I have to say that the one thing that stood out to me from this ad is the obvious contempt the McCain campaign has for Obama. I know that feelings run high in campaigns, but it's just terribly obvious from this ad that McCain has NO respect for Obama whatsoever. Fine with me. They underestimate him at their own peril.
August 11, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame's personal contempt for Obama (from their Senate interactions) has been widely reported.
August 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I've read the stories, but usually in cases like this, candidates at least try to fake it. He can nuzzle up to Karl Rove after the 2000 SC smears, but he can't manage to even pretend to respect Obama?
August 11, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every day that they put out this crap, JMc's campaign looks less and less serious and legitimate. I really think this is mainly born of desperation. I suspect that McCain's people know that if the spotlight is put on their man, it is actually to their dis-advantage, see: multiple gaffes. These ads almost come across as a desperate diversion tactic, trying to goad Obama into a fight over stupid, inconsequential topics. To that end, I think the fact that O's camp is refusing to take the bait too eagerly,and taking their time, and then hitting them back with not so much anger as ridicule, shouls work just fine.
August 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This can't be real.
August 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
But it is.
August 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you mean by "real"?
August 11, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, please stop. This isn't even close to "Fording" and as a Democrat I am getting kind of sick of hearing this from our side. It's playing straight in to McCain's hands. What y'all are looking for is a campaign that criticizes only issues when it comes to the Republicans. It will just never happen. As far as criticisms go, they are mocking the extremities of Obama love, which I am tempted to do from time to time myself. The only way an ad like this gets ANY traction is because the indignancy brigade gets ginned up, the press picks it up and we're off to the races. Your need to be self-righteous is precisely why McCain can get away with not actually spending money on ads.
The easiest way to win this election is avoid the metadebate, stop criticizing McCain's tactics and move on to policy and issues. If something is truly racist it will get out there, but this is yet another example of a situation that is just way too ambiguous to support those charges in any way. But, of course, this will give Team McCain yet another opportunity to go on TV and claim that Obama is trying to make this campaign about race. That's how we lose.
August 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed on all counts.
August 11, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know why I find this ad so depressing, but I do. I guess it's because he's not only going after Obama, he's going after regular, everyday people who are actually excited about his candidacy. He's demeaning those of us who support Obama just as much as he is demeaning Obama.
August 11, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you meant to say it may cause some defecations...
August 11, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Waiting for the Mike Meyers counter ad for being used in a McCain ad.
August 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would be an interesting ad given the characters Meyers plays.
He could get Dana Carvey to do an ancient Bush Sr to his made up McSame and do something like;
"only OLD people count,
So unless your older then dirt like I (McSame ) am don't bother voting."
and of course get off my lawn .....
then get into a golf cart and ride away ....
August 11, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
This ad won't get enough attention for that. It's just crap.
August 11, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
It got a little attention;
Carvey To McCain Camp: You're Not Worthy
August 13, 2008 6:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fording or no, this has got to be the World's Worst Campaign Ad EVER. For christ sake, any self-respecting republican with half a brain, a rare breed these days, should be moved to vote for Obama after seeing this stinking pile of dung.
August 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just watched it again. What strikes me, actually, on a second viewing, is that this is neither a particularly nasty nor a particularly funny ad.
In satire, there's a difficult line to walk between "taking X seriously" and "heavy-handedly bashing X." You need to pretend to take X seriously, but let the audience see that you've got tongue in cheek.
In this case, I think the ad actually veers so close to taking Obama's popularity seriously that the satire falls flat. If it weren't for the cheesy game-show music and "but wait there's more" voice-over, you could almost come away thinking "wow, it is pretty cool that the Taco Bell was busy all day."
And as satire goes, the cheesiness of the voice over is pretty weak tea.
August 11, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only person here who thought the ad was pretty darned funny?
I mean, it wasn't Daily Show hilarious, but it wasn't that far off from being something you'd see on the Daily Show.
I'm a pretty strong Obama supporter, but I'm honest enough to admit that when someone does rise in popularity as quickly as Obama has, there's going to be a pretty big segment of followers who are embarrassingly over-the-top.
Jon Stewart and the gang have been putting together footage like this to mostly skewer the GOP for years now, so it was bound to backfire.
August 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was funny in a sort of Young Republican frat house sort of way. It insulted young Obama supporters, so if you are envious of enthusiastic young people, I guess you would find it funny.
August 11, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. I lost my sense of humor when I realized how disastrous a McCain presidency would be. Considering this is about the only way he'll be able to get it, I don't find it funny in the least.
August 11, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Vote for me because everyone likes the other guy!"
This should be repeated as their strategy over and over again....that and the line from the new DNC ad - "We interrupt this negative ad to bring you the truth."
August 11, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, all you white guys out there beware, that handsome black dude is going to steal all your women.
August 11, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
New TPM post: McCain likely plagarized passages from wikepedia to insert in his sustantive policy speech regarding Georgia. I think this is why his camp would like to turn this into a juvenile "yo mama.." insult-fest. That seems to be their only (slim) hope.
August 11, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think fogu2 wrote the script for this ad. He's certainly lame enough.
August 11, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, my fan base!
August 11, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nobody is paying attention to these ads anymore. McCains tanking in the state and national polls so he's trying get attention the best way he and his dumb ass campaign knows who-and thats acting like an ass.
August 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look, again, the more we discuss this and get angry about this the more hits this post will get. In turn the more the MSM will pay attention and thus the more times it will appear on television. It's just not worth the ruckus, which seems to have been effective throughout the campaign.
More on this: http://airingofthegrievances.blogspot.com/2008/08/free-advertising-just-act-indignant-jm.html
August 11, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
The GOP knows exactly what they are doing with this ad - and Obama's camp called them on it today. That's probably the best response - call them on exactly what they are doing.
August 11, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Called them on it how?
August 11, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The mass emailer today. And in speeches going forward. No ad buys or anything like that, maybe a web ad spelling out the McCain tactic. Use surrogates, anytime the press brings up the "Celebrity" question, have them call it exactly what it is and ridicule McCain and Camp for it.
August 11, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems the McCain Camp is setting some sort of trap here and wants Obama or surrogates to call "Race Card", McCain needs to make this campaign about race if he hopes to win it seems. He wants Obama to call race-baiting, and then McCain could act all indignant again, saying that there was no such thing in the ad and how Obama wants to make everything about race.
I mean "hot chicks" isn't race specific.
Obama just needs to keep pointing out exactly what McCain is trying to accomplish with his "celebrity tag" how he is trying to demean any Obama supporter as a dimwit celebrity chaser.
August 11, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I get it -- you mean he "called them on it" by saying the previous ad was designed to demean supporters. Got it. Agree.
I also (strongly) agree that "hot chicks" isn't race specific.
August 11, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
This campaign is about race among other things. No getting around that.
I imagine they could have found footage of black people saying they voter for him because he's black. Then who would be playing the race card, the ones who voted that way or the one who brought it out into the open?
August 11, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, I'm not seeing anything racial about that scenario. All I see here is a trash-talking chicken.
August 11, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That would be:"Obama the trash talking chicken" to you, sir.
Get it right.
August 11, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
"That would be:"Obama the trash talking chicken" to you, sir."
Except that chicken talks nonsense, that makes him come across like a product of inbreeding.
August 12, 2008 8:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
The chicken is Obama. You realize you are talking about Obama right Whiteman?
August 12, 2008 8:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, a 527, maybe. But the McCain itself??? Now that is some freaking balls. And they all but throw away any pretenses and just put out there for you: "hot chicks dig Obama" following a series of fwhite women swooning over Obama.
The last ad was just too subtle I guess.
August 11, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like I said, even if that's exactly what they were going for it's too nuanced to call it race-baiting, and it would severely backfire.
Leave it up to the talking heads on the networks and offer "no comment" if prodded about it.
August 11, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
How ugly, sleazy and racist can bigot McCain get?
I think PTSD is making the little troll crackup.
August 11, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I honestly don't think this is a race-baiting ad. I think it's a "let's insult every voter under 35 who supports Obama" ad. Why a campaign would imagine that it helps them to do that, I have no idea. Looks to me like they're really flailing.
August 11, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Humorless progressive idiots:
If Obama want to end the celebrity campaign he has done the worst thing possible trying to call McCain a celebrity.
What he should do is agree that he' a celebrity and show a little self-deprecating humor. But he's too arrogant for that and you all too politically correct.
Score:
McCain: +2
Obama: -4
August 11, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
You just keep making up those numbers, chicken. Here, I'll do it too:
Obama -71
Edwards 1,003,765
McCain 33 times the square root of pi.
Woe is me.
August 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the other hand, if you want numbers with some relation to reality, you could try these:
Obama 284
McCain 157
Toss-up 97
http://www.pollster.com/
Sweet dreams!
August 11, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know why they say you're so dumb.
August 11, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, I think you used that line on another thread a couple of days ago. If you're going to troll, at least take some pride in your trolling.
August 12, 2008 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mike Meyers probably doesn't own the rights to a clip like that, though he might be owed a royalty; and I'm pretty certain the interviewed people don't have any rights at all. They would belong to whoever made the video, unless the subjects cut some sort of deal with them. Which seems unlikely.
August 11, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
fogu2 -∞
August 11, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
-∞i
lest we forget the imaginary factor.
August 11, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't wait for the Obama counter add.
Chicks that are not hot, dig McCain!
August 11, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Already exists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s
Though the one on the right is actually sorta cute.
August 11, 2008 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll be damned, you're right. This gives me a kind of cognitive dissonance I've come to call the Andrea Tantaros Effect.
August 12, 2008 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Keep it comming McCain each one of these insane ads will mean more voters to Obama. You might need to check the inside person or persons who are bent on sabotaging your campaign.
August 11, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are absolutely right about the futility of crying racism in an American general election: Obama can only lose such an argument.
August 11, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
To: John McCain campaign
Keep it up!
Oh, that's right need Niagra.
August 11, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
My full response to this ad, if anyone is so interested:
http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/08/mccains-latest-ad-absolutely-childish.html
August 11, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
This web ad is just dumb.
August 11, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain, McLame! He's doing silly ads so that he can seem young! That's funny!
August 11, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the ad is sexist, racist and it is insulting to all of Obama's supporters -- especially the younger voters!
Those of you who argue the McCain camp want voters to perceive Obama as a "fad" are correct also.
The gals are portrayed as air-heads who know nothing about Obama -- but .... who knows what they really said -- was it edited or taken out of context ... were they asked what physical characteristic did they find appealing or perhaps they paid the girls ...
who knows ....
I put nothing past the rovian-mean-machine.
August 11, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
It reminds me of the [parents'] fear of Elvis when he first came on the scene ... and groups such as The Temptations, etc...
That might explain where McCain got the idea....
August 11, 2008 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look, if Obama can fill up a taco bell across town when it's raining, he must be magic and will do wonders for our economy.
McCain is a premature sore loser and these sour grapes grumpy old man ads are going to backfire... hot chicks dig Obama is so not a reason to vote for McCain.
August 12, 2008 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is part of their strategy to bring up race at every turn.
Freaktown hit the nail on the head:
"They're just waiting someone to cry "race baiting". then mccain can feign righteous indignation and say "i would never do anything like that. Shame on Obama for injecting race into the campaign again."
The McCain campaign's entire strategy consists of baiting the Obama campaign, surrogates, the media and everyone else into bringing up the race issue for them.
The bottom line:
If Obama's name was Bob Williams he would be soaring in the polls. McCain's ONLY line of attack is race. There are a limited number of overt racists so they are manipulating the same people with this racial issue who were worked up into voting for Bush by fear-mongering.
This ad may be nothing but stupid to people who think about it, but to those who have latent fears it is just one more button pushed.
August 12, 2008 12:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is below sophomoric. It's below freshman. It's Junior High all over again. And the cherry on top is the blatant race-baiting. Hot Chicks dig the Big One - and you dumb white guys haven't got it.
Our problem as human beings in the midst of the Uhmerican population is that most of our fellow species members didn't get past Junior High on an emotional level. The neocons know that and they know that shit like this sticks.
What a country!!!
August 12, 2008 3:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
The only feigning that McCain does is feigning that he has any brains. His entire staff is riddled with lobbyists and yet he attacks lobbyists. And his staff even has the Georgia Government lobbyists on board so how objective can the campaign be with their announcements about the war in Georgia. Besides his troop surge means we are so out of troops that we have none to send to Georgia. duh, Mr. McCain your surge took the last soldier standing and what good did it do us. The mess is just as messy as bef9ore, ummm, maybe worse. But who knows the facts. For sure the Bush junta is not my choice for reliable information and since McCain is a
Bush clone that is always sucking up to GW, I never believe a word he says anymore.
August 12, 2008 5:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clearly, the ad is beyond stupid.
Everyone knows it.
I know it has been mentioned here or there, but the "Fording of Obama" angle really isn't being taken as seriously as it should be....and Bob Herbert blew it by misidentifying his phallic symbols and looking over at Harold "I ain't seen nothin'" Ford and expecting him to acknowledge the truth.
Well meaning, forward thinking white people don't quite see it and bigots won't admit it; but, almost every man of color over a certain age I've communicated with about them got the same grit your teeth and bite your tongue sensation in the gut when they saw these "stupid" ads.
As stupid as they may be, they are working. This not so subtle race-baiting is being very well done, not only is it getting free play; it is a clear enough message for its target audience, yet...there's enough deniability built in to allow them to trump a rightfully called race-card.
Forget "Barack, call me." I wouldn't be surprised if by October, Mcain's campaign isn't down to thirty seconds of a still photo of Obama with a cigarette on the screen while a voice in the background shouts "where the white womens at"?
August 12, 2008 6:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just at the time this "low point" add came out, Obama offered to text his fans his VP choice. Looks like McCain is firmly in his head now and his behavior validates the bimbo image. And yes, the adds say Obama is a Bimbo, not "scary black man takes your bimbos away from you". Give that one a rest already - no one is buying the accusation of racism anymore.
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/i-am-a-racist/
August 12, 2008 7:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, yes you are. However, your admitting the fact is a good first step in the healing process.
You can do it. I have faith in you.
August 12, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I firmly believe that this time Americans aren't buying the bullshit, and while they may waver, they will eventually go with the guy who sounds like he is serious, and smart enough to deal with the problems we are facing. But, it won't happen without help. McCain has been irritatingly successful in defining Obama over the past few weeks. Barack needs to over the top of this crap ASAP, and start hitting McCain for being so superficial and ridiculous at a critical time in our history. Continue to paint McCain as another Bush, and stop pussyfooting around the issue of McCain's capacity to handle the job of President. http://www.veracifier.com/episode/TPM_20080807
August 12, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's the over/under that the next McBlame ad features two gay men commenting on Obama's looks with a backdrop of the Golden Gate Bridge?
August 12, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
The ad is pitiful, and one that reminds me once again that the one thing McSame has against Senator Obama is his popularity, and wants to divert from the real issues.
What a shame that the McSame camp doesn't realize that WITH the media's help Senator Obama's popularity grew and how funny it is to see the media question "Is Obama overexposed?", then they immediately cut away to photos of Senator Obama, clips of Senator Obama, continue to challenge Senator Obama to come on Faux news to sit with the guy that has done nothing but hurl insults at Michelle Obama and talk about the "race issue" in this campaign. I think most see the ad for what it is, gutter politics, and that's what you can expect from a McSame presidency, more of the same.
August 12, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am not a fan of McCain, but don't toe the line that any criticism or character attack on Barack, for which there is plenty of material, is a racist attack. That's just as silly as the ad itself.
August 12, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Audio from the spot is up here.
August 12, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy if you guys think any of these are "sexy" women throwing themselves at Obama you haven't been getting out enough. Wow 4 whole white women in the ad. Is the guy gushing over Obama some dark way to say that Obama is going to steal your gay white lover too.
It is you guys who are pitiful. Even the music tells you it is tongue in cheek and it is clearly aimed at Obama's empty celebrity.
August 12, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really think that any attack on Obama is a racist attack. I mean really, anyone that doesn't vote for Obama is a racist. And apparently a sexist too. McSame should be smart enough to never ever put any white women in ads. I mean that is rasict too. Actually I think McSame should only use Black men in all his adds that he uses against Obama, and himself. I mean for himself. Cause there aren't any. And then we don't have to hear his racist and sexist ads.
August 12, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy if you guys think any of these are "sexy" women throwing themselves at Obama you haven't been getting out enough. Wow 4 whole white women in the ad. Is the guy gushing over Obama some dark way to say that Obama is going to steal your gay white lover too.
It is you guys who are pitiful. Even the music tells you the ad is tongue in cheek and it is clearly aimed at Obama's empty celebrity. And by the outrage here I'd say it hits home. It gives whites a way to reject Obama that isn't being racist. He is just a celebrity and we need someone with more gravitas to handle the problems the US will encounter.
August 12, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm going to write in Cobra Commander on my ballot. He may be evil, but at least I know what he stands for.
August 12, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink