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New McCain Ad Badly Distorts Obama's Words About Iran

The new McCain ad released this morning attacking Obama on Iran rips Obama's words out of context so egregiously that it amounts to a distortion at best and an outright smear at worst.

The ad's narrator says: "Obama says Iran is a 'tiny' country. 'Doesn't pose a serious threat.' Terrorism? Destroying Israel? Those aren't serious threats?"

The quote where Obama supposedly said that Iran "doesn't pose a serious threat" was delivered by him on May 18, 2008, according to the date flashed by the ad itself.

But in juxtaposing that truncated quote with "terrorism" and "destroying Israel," the ad badly distorts what Obama actually said that day, and more broadly, also distorts Obama's position on Iran.

Here is the full May 18th Obama quote, as supplied by the McCain press release itself:

"Strong countries and strong Presidents talk to their adversaries. That's what Kennedy did with Khrushchev. That's what Reagan did with Gorbachev. That's what Nixon did with Mao. I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we're going to wipe you off the planet."

Very clearly, Obama didn't say that Iran doesn't pose any serious threat. Rather, he clearly said that Iran doesn't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us.

What's more, Obama didn't simply say Iran was "tiny," as the ad suggests, in a clear effort to hoodwink viewers into thinking that Obama sees Iran as no threat at all. Rather, he said it was tiny compared to the Soviet Union.

These serious distortions are also at odds with Obama's actual positions on Iran. Obama has said that Iran is a threat to Israel.

For instance, on June 4, during a speech to AIPAC, Obama said: "There is no greater threat to Israel -- or to the peace and stability of the region -- than Iran."

Obama has also clearly said that Iran is a threat in the sense that it's liked to terrorism, despite the ad's suggestion that Obama doesn't see terror as a threat.

During his June 4th AIPAC speech, Obama said of Iran: "Its support for terrorism and threats toward Israel have increased."

Nothing like a bracing dose of lies to get your day off to a good start, huh?


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Is it actually showing outside of the studios of CNN, Fox, and MSNBC?

I'd just be happy if one of them called bullshit on the ad. But I'm not holding my breath.

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I've figured out one of the issues that Democratic supporters need to come to terms with. We keep expecting the media to do its job. It's ingrained in us that journalists should, and will, behave like journalists.

But the specimens in cable news don't and won't, so we should all just face up to the fact that shoddy work is the norm. They are, to quote Click and Clack, entirely unencumbered by the thought process in most circumstances.

Hope the Obama campaign realizes this.

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Yep, unless it's a democratic position and they allegedly "fact check" and distort the democratic postion. It's the corporate right-wing media.

I still say dems should run ads against the media as well and call them to task for not doing their job. An ad on the oil drilling lie would be a great start and they could use the king's own administration's position that it would have no effect.

Also, maybe on this iran thing they can call the republicans a bunch of whusses or something. Iran is not a significant threat to the "homeland" only to our troops in iraq that shouldn't be there in the first place.

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It's Iran's existential threat to really relatively tiny Israel that gets the righties in a lather. Israel=USA in their view.
McCain is the real existential threat to the USA.

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I really don't think that the iranian mullahs are that stupid to attack isreal with missles or even a nuke. Isreal has enough nukes to obliterate iran. The mullahs aren't that stupid. It's just posturing for domestic consumption and to act like big shots in the region. They are doing it more so now that the us took out their primary adversary, saddam. Brilliant move on the king's part. Excellent, take out the counterweight to iran in the region and give iran a puppet state on it's border. What a huge clusterf*ck.

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Yeah, that's the absolute least they must do if they are going to constantly air McCain's video press releases, and that's exactly what they are, as only one of the two Hillary ads even aired, and only in Toledo, Ohio!

Obama should release these things every day as well. Then they'll have to either run both or not run either, and I bet they'll just stop rather than take up all day airing them.

Don't the cable news networks ever wonder why everyone hates them? Their judgment of what is newsworthy is so terrible. If the New York Times started publishing McCain's press releases, its readers would hate it, too. Aren't any of these networks interested in differentiating their brand based on, you know, quality journalism?

Yup.

Sidekick McCain

NO ONE IS GETTING THIS!

Do what Karl Rove even tells you he does... watch the goddamned ad with the sound down!!

Picture of Obama. Super over his face, of the quoted word "TINY.

GET IT NOW???

It's "The Democrats are weaklings", with a touch of "John Edwards is faggeleh. It may be the first time in history, that anyone accused a Black man of having a small penis.

If you don't understand that THAT is what this ad is supposed to do... YOU DON'T GET IT AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IN A FRICKIN' LANDSLIDE!

Karl Rove outpunches and outclasses Dems, every single goddamned time, and "we" never move off Square One. Obama is supposedly from Chicago. His peeps obviously never took "the Chicago way" to heart.

In order to understand why it doesn't MATTER where the ad shows or how often... read THIS... and commit it to memory. It is simply the single most important thing the Democrats currently have to learn about 21st Century political advertising (and, as always, HuffPo ran it for three seconds, then buried it, to ensure that it would have the least amount of exposure. Aren't you people lucky you have ME?):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/distract-and-detract-mcca_b_121560.html

Well done. The Obama camp should send out a release directing folks to this page.

The McCain Camp doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good smear ad. And the MSM will not do their job and call him on it to try and keep campaigns honest. Sure blog sites and factcheck.org will dissect it and expose it for the utter crap that it is, but the MSM will probably air it in full in a continuous loop, free of charge.

See my response ad here.

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I think a deft touch would be to respond with a humorous ad/video press release, using sarcasm and ridicule.

It would be something along the lines of "McCain's ad said X, but Obama actually said Y, and it's ridiculous for McCain to distort Obama's words. Why is he afraid of a fair fight and telling Americans the truth?"

They could also suggest that it would be like if we ran an ad taking something McCain said and distorting it.

Got any suggestions for something McCain said that we could similarly distort beyond recognition? I'm thinking foreign policy or the economy are the best topics.

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Never repeat what McCain's ads say. Simply say: John McCain is distorting my record. Why is he so afraid to tell the truth?

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True, but they ought to use the real quote so viewers can see how he's distorted the record. Saying "John McCain is distorting my record" is a little vague.

How about an ad saying

"John McCain approves of ads that lie and distort the truth in order to get elected. If he was president could we really trust him to tell us the truth?"

Then show clips of the various lies that got us into the iraq war.

that's about right.

call him a liar. tell it like it is.

of course obama won't do that because he thinks he's elevating the debate and thinks that divisiveness is the problem with politics. he's dead fucking wrong of course. the problem with politics is that mccain and bush and the rnc are a bunch of fucking liars and the dems are too chickenshit to just say so.

That sounds a little weak and complaining. How's this - Another way John McCain is like George Bush: he's a liar. He lies about my record. He distorts my record. We don't need another liar in the White House."

That sounds a little weak and complaining. How's this - "Another way John McCain is like George Bush: he's a liar. He lies about my record. He distorts my record. We don't need another liar in the White House."

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Who exactly has been in control for the past eight years while Iran greatly expanded its influence within the Middle East from Lebanon to Iraq?

Stop trying to confuse the issue with your "facts" and "common sense". We all know that the Democrats are to blame for this.

This reminds me of the 100 years comment. Let's see if the media goes out of their way to refute the implied claims in this ad.

I HIGHLY doubt it.

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They won't call McCain on this crap because, you guessed it, he is a POW.

McCain could not even GO to the Soviet Union for 5 1/2 years be.. wait, he sort of WAS in the Soviet Union then.

Er, for 5 1/2 years, John McCain could not even look at a map to see how big Iran was compared to the Soviet Union!

He drew a map of the world in the dirt of his cell, next to the area where he wrote down the Bible from memory. He studied both, hard, because that's all he had to do between the tort-- er, enhanced-- uh, mistreatment and biweekly gruel dinners.

Sitting in one of those key states where the ad will be run, I have to emphasize that this election is beginning to look like the last two elections. Obama has got to go on the offensive. He has made one decent slap back on one issue. McCain is simply creaming him by releasing a new ad on almost a daily basis.

As noted previously, McCain is running all these ads because he has to spend his remaining primary money this week. It'll be interesting to see how quickly they spend the $85M in public money once they get it.

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It's not entirely clear that this ad actually will run anywhere except on cable news, at this point.

McCain has to use his money up in one week. Of course he's going to be releasing ads every day. He won't be able to keep up that pace, however.

Things look kinda grim right now, I'll agree, but I don't know that they'll stay that way.

CT Voter:

Big fan, BTW. At the risk of seeming like a noodge, this will be my third time posting this link to William Bradley in HuffPo, explaining how 21st Century political advertising actually works.

Someone else here called it perfectly, when they said that this was not "advertising" anymore, so much as it was a "video press release". Dem strategists had best heed that warning, or prepare to die:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/distract-and-detract-mcca_b_121560.html

Great opportunity for an ad by Obama showing what a P.O.S. McCain's group is.

Something came to me the other day. During the 2004 and 2000 election cycle, Bush never directly attacked Kerry in relation to arguments such as the swiftboaters and this crap. Rove always made sure that Bush was one step removed so voters would not equate him to the negativity of the election cycle.

This election cycle, McCain is doing the attacks himself and carrying his own water. I am wondering what the impact is going to be. I am no fan of Rove, yet feel he was right to separate the negative attack crap from the candidate in the eyes of the voters.

Exactly. McCain is going to be his own attack dog because he has no choice. He can't run on his own agenda, because it's Bush & Cheney's agenda. He has no ground game, period. He has to really pander to the religious right to create some excitement. He can't and won't run on the economy, with the exception of the eternal "higher taxes" boogieman. He doesn't have another choice but to run by the Rove playbook and exploit his only highlight (You know what it is, so why bother to remain you).

Even with all the flaws the DNC have shown, one thing it's for sure: the RNC will be a natural turnoff. Let's get real: They're only going to attack and attack and then attack more. It's going to please the base and their mouthpieces (Fox, Rush and the others), but it will alienate the moderates they need so badly. They think the 80's mantra of "if you can do it, you can over do it" will work again. I highly doubt it. Let's look to their lineup:

Monday: Bush, Cheney & Lieberman. Enough said.
Tuesday: Fred Thompson & Giuliani. Even with their fame and reputation, they couldn't win anything at their own primary.
Wednesday: Cindy McCain (after Michelle's speech, she's already in trouble), Romney (the Manchurian Candidate incarnated) and the VP (after Biden's choice, it's a tough one to follow and please everyone, specially Rush).
Thursday: Crist & Pawlenty, two puppies and the man himself. He has to compete with the NFL opener. And already prepared to take shots everytime he mentions POW, Hanoi or My friends. I'm wasted already.

PD: A star was born yesterday. His name is Brian Schweitzer. The guy is the real deal. He can help Obama to win the Midwest and those elusive voters the pundits talk about. Memo to Axelrod: USE HIM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! AND SEND HILLARY TO FLORIDA ASAP!

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PD: A star was born yesterday. His name is Brian Schweitzer.

I had read about him, but last night was the first time I had actually seen Brian Schweitzer in action, and I was really impressed! I thought at the time that I hoped we would be seeing a lot more of him in days to come.

The response should be "John McCain wants to start World War III."

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John McCain: "Wrong before [Iraq] he was wrong again [staying in Iraq for 100 years]" [Let him spend his own cash replying that he was "right" about the surge]

Add a few clips of McCain's bellicose braying about Iran or Georgia. Can't think of a good catchy punchline, but implication is: this is a guy who just loves war for its own sake.

Yes. But. This is a post-partisan campaign. We do not do such things. We are above that kind of response.

*snickers*

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This one deserves a real strong and continuing smack down. I bet none of the bobbleheads on the cable news networks mentions the distortion.

McCain: "Simply dangerous"

It is this lie and others by Republicans, designed to scare people that also has another effect. The fear from these ads translates into anger and that anger can translate into violence for those that are 'less evolved'.
McCain and his crew should know this, but they like most Republicans seem hell bent on creating this divide at any cost.
This is a dangerous ad.

Dear American Citizens and the mass media of U.S.A.

As a concerned disabled American Veteran and American citizen, I consider it my duty and responsibility to bring following critical characteristics of so called Maverick McCain to you for proving me wrong or right.

"The citizens of the United States of America have the ultimate responsibility to elect the " Right Candidate with the right temperament" to lead our nation' to address our nations present and future moral, democratic, economic, educational, health care, energy, military, and foundational soul of our nation.

In my firm professional opinion that the media should help the common voter to explore and discuss following attributes of Hon. Senator McCain.


1. Does he have a calm, cool, and collected " temper " [ Presidential Temperament ]?
2. Does he have a sound and sustained "Judgment and Caliber"?
3. Does he have a reveal a presidential "Thought-fullness and togetherness" of purpose and positions?
4. Does he lot or little "ex-poser and exploitation" around Washington"?
5. Does he poses enough " Vigor, wisdom and Vision " for our Great-grand Nation?
6. Does he poses foreign policy exploit-es based on " American Values, Virtuous, Vastness"?
7. Does his campaign talk. slogans and ads are based of facts and free of fiction, deception, seduction, and attacks?

If your answer to the above questions is yes then recommend and vote for him.

But in my professional. political, and personal opinion that vote is against the common interests majority of American people, against the world humanity, continuation of status qua and possibly dangerous world order.

Long live U.S.A and its democratic people and their common sense.

COL.. A.M. Khajawall [Ret] MD., Colonel, USAR / MC Combat Stress Control[Ret], Disabled American Veteran and Iraq Freedom team.

PS: Please google McCain and temper read what his senator colleagues and others are saying about it.

Unfortunately, for the average American I think calm and cool translates to someone who doesn't sufficiently appreciate the threat. Irascible and hotheaded = somebody itching to take on the terrorists.

Anybody still watching the MSM is part of the problem. They are not reporters or anchors anymore, they're all about getting themselves over.

Anybody still watching the MSM is part of the problem

Just last night, an average American was feeding me some neocon talking points about Saddam Hussein and Iraq's threat to our very survival. "STILL???", you ask. Well, check out the response to my subsequent correction with those pesky FACTS:

"What, do you get news that the rest of us don't get? DO YOU THINK YOU'RE SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE?"


As long as they let anybody vote... which I hear they're planning to keep on doing... we are so utterly fucked.

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Again, they lie, we respond to it substantively, but their attacks work.

The only real way to fight back is to launch fresh attacks ourselves.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

During the 80s, when Iran was fighting for its life against Iraq, 80% of Iran's weapons came from Israel. During that time, while Israel was its lifeline, Iran never stopped being critical of Israel. Israel even build a plant for Iran to produce 200-mile-range missiles which were capable of carrying a nuclear warhead (not that Iran HAD any nuclear warheads). Meanwhile, the US and Western Europe were supplying the means for Iraq to use chemical warfare against the Kurds and Iranians, and the Saudis and Kuwaitis were supplying Iraq with the money to pay for the weapons, and for the Iraqis to increase the size of their army to nearly 1.5 million men. So the army that invaded Kuwait was built by the US (and others) with money supplied (partly) by the Saudis and the Kuwaitis.

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I am a little worried that the Obama campaign is working so hard on the convention story arc that they are going to miss this. A lie unopposed is the truth.

By the way a lot of McCain ads contain the argument that Barack Obama is going to raise your taxes. Unless you make more that $250,000 Obama is going to lower your taxes. But the McCain lie has gone unopposed so long people are beginning to believe it. Wolf Blitzer of the Corportate Nitwit Network went so far as to do an entire misleading story "proving" that McCain is right. I saw Kudlow make the same argument.

The Obama campaign has got to get off its couch and take on these lies before they are ingrained as truth.

I'm sure that the 'rapid response' team will be on this.

They won't reply directly but the distortion is so provocative I'm sure the Obama camp's overtures to cable to follow this up will be received loud and clear.

McCain is probably seeking to stir up controversy on national security today, because that's the theme tonight at the Convention.

This could seriously backfire on McCain though. This is a lie, and it shows he is 'out of touch' when it comes to national security.

it amounts to a distortion at best and an outright smear at worst.

More like: It amounts to an outright smear at best, and an insidious lie at worst.

This isn't the substance of a return ad on the defensive but for some serious rotation on cable.

I'm sure Olbermann would love to sink his teeth into this.

McCain has nowhere to hide when the distortion is so plainly manipulative and subversive.

Um, dishonest ads work. Is the media fact checking it and placing the ad in context, or just simply replaying it and not commenting on it?

Obama needs to respond forcefully to this sort of garbage.

The larger context of this ad is its ominous and dark tone that is the politics of insecurity in its pure form. This is aimed at the Republican base and a distraction from issues like immigration and global warming. Fear is the base emotion of Republicans and optimism is the base emotion of Democrats. Reagan got conservative Democrats to switch by combing the two.

That is why Democratic surrogates have to evoke the fear of Four More Wars while Obama embodies the optimism that even many Republicans are looking for.

This actually plays a bit into Obama's wheelhouse. He talks about the polictics of fear pretty effectively and I'm assuming that will be a big part of his speech on Thurs.

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Qualifications and nuance are no match for the sound bite.

Definitely the response is:

"Why does McCain feel the need to lie to the American people about what his opponent says?

[show same highlighted distinction as Greg's post]

Hmmm... a President who would lie to the American people about a war they want to start in the Middle East?

Where have we heard that one before?

Oh yeah... (show picture of McCain hugging Bush)

Do we want 4 more years of George Bush?

No way, no how, no McCain

I'm Barack Obama and I approved this message"

This election is about the past vs. the future. And our hope is to get that across to the youth and turn them out to vote in great numbers. Maybe that's why Obama can't go too negative. He can't ruin the brand or the youth will turn off.

What Obama can do is point to the dishonesty of this ad and the others, and say "same ole thing" we can't believe anything the GOP says. They take the facts and turn them into what they want it to be, just as they did with the WMD in Iraq. The Republicans have no credence left with the American people.

I also feel we need to start associating McCain with Cheney. An old angry man who wants to wage war on the world.

Which of those two are the angry old man who wants to wage war on the world?

Angry old MEN in my opinion.

I think there is a limit to this word twisting, and this one is way over the line. Because the original quote is short and simple to understand, I think a forthright comparison between the quote and misquote actually works to Obama's advantage. (By approving this ad, McCain shows himself to be a liar or illiterate; I think I know which--ok, not so blatant but you get the picture.)

The upside to an effective counterpunch showcasing such an egregious example is that un-decideds might start to look at other (more nuanced) ads more skeptically. I would hit this hard, over and over.

This is a gift if used properly. It gives Obama a clear chance to out McCain for being a liar, knocking down that straight talk BS.

A response ad could have a clip of the McCain ad distortion, a clip of what Obama actually said, and some quip at the end about how McCain's ambition caused him to abandon all straight talk.

By putting the McCain lie and Obama quote side by side, the Obama camp can show what kind of man McCain is and what tactics he's willing to resort to. Forget relying upon the MSM to expose lies. Take it directly to the people.

Not to mention that what Obama was talking about was diplomacy and talking before sending in the troops. Obama can push the trigger-happy meme with this one, because obviously McCain is shoot first ask questions later.

Agreed. And this should be linked to the theme of McCain's obsession with the past. "Does John McCain know that the Cold War is over? Does he understand the world we live in today, or the nature of the new threats we face?"

And one more thing. "Why is John McCain so afraid of Iran?"

What would we expect from Bush's sidekick?

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An appropriate response would be the daisy ad.

Typical Rovian strategy: Lie. When opponent responds (already putting them in the weaker position), attack them more and change the subject. Don't give in. Don't let up. Reuse old lies, even if they've been debunked. Saying it makes it right (i.e. doing it makes it legal).

These are the same people who distorted the friggin Constitution of the United States, so it's no surprise they'll do whatever they can to win.

Sadly, the Dems are just not premptively exposing McCain's flubs, flip-flops and dangerous policies. No need to lie. I don't understand.

McCain distorts Obama's words?

In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning.

Obama needs to go on the OFFENSIVE. Plain and simple. Reacting all the time looks weak.

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The obvious reply to "Obama thinks Iran is a tiny country" is "McCain thinks Iraq boarders on Afghanistan, by some magical or enfeebled thinking making Iran non-existent".

And our hope is to get that across to the youth and turn them out to vote in great numbers.

The "youth vote" is famously volatile. The youth vote split evenly between George W. Bush and Al Gore in 2000. And while youth-voter records were up in the 2008 primaries I think their impact is overestimated.

McCain: Dishonesty First

They ARE TINY and they DON'T POSE A SERIOUS THREAT. Come on people, Iran is NOTHING. You all have bought into the meme that EVERY nation on this earth is a threat to the GREAT U S of A. What the f* is half a trillion a year buying if we crap our pants whenever we're told to CRAP OUR PANTS.

"John McCain: Still a Prisoner of War, and too Dangerous for America."

Obama can't come out strong now because he doesn't want to take focus off the convention. he'll simply have a press release highlighting basically what Greg said and that's about it.

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maybe the obama camp response ad can just be video from the speech he gave on that date and pretty much just say what greg was distorted.

it would be right to the point on obama's realist/pragmatist foreign policy vision all the while implicitly stating that mccain has distorted his words.

just have video of the speech with the date on the bottom and leave it at that.

Maybe I'm reading to much into this... But in virtually every McCain commercial they always have Obama's picture, or words, over a brown background.

Is this a subliminal way of pointing out... "Hey, and by the way... He's Black"???

It seems obvious to me.

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When people talk about Barack needing to be more aggressive with McCain they don't mean yell and scream at him. The magic of Bill Clinton was that during the campaign he controlled the message. He was always coming up with a way to attack his opponents record or statements in a way that forced them to respond. At some point by now he would have said to a reporter something like.

"I just don't understand how McCain can say he wants to keep US troops in Iraq for 100 years. You would think that someone with as much foreign policy experience would know better than that."

He would say it without an ounce of contempt but with only a smile on his face as if he really didn't understand the position. That would simply force the reporter to stick a microphone in McCain's face and ask him to respond to the comment. The next day or later that week while McCain is trying to respond to this he would say something else.

Barack needs to start controlling the news cycle better. Yes he's a good counter puncher but he needs to deliver the blows better. By and large American doesn't vote on the issues. Democrats have always gone into elections with the popular stance on the issues and largely gotten their butts kicked. America votes on the guy who is in control and wins the fight. If Barack wants America to start seeing him as a leader then he needs to take control.

They have been watching too much MAD TV, where they take completely innocent comments, from Obama's elementary school teacher for example, and isolate one word to use in an attack ad. It's funny as a comedy sketch, but can enough people discern the difference between parody and dishonest politics?

There's something interesting that most everyone is missing here. Billyboy27 already pointed out that Rove left the worst sliming to 527's whereas Team McGoo is doing it itself, in its own name.

That's important because its part of the utter crudity, the complete lack of artfulness of this attack.
When Rove and his totally independent obscenely wealthy Texas sty-mates slimed, the lies they told were never capable of being proven absolutely objectively false. They were always either ugly unwarranted inferences based upon at least a thin layer of fact or else lies about things that were alleged to have happened in the pre-Youtube past, lies like the Swift Boat smear that would inevitably get played as a "he said, but he said."

McCain is here, himself, telling a flat out, easily verifiable, demonstrable lie. This isn't a "if you follow a tangled pattern of facts, you must conclude that McCain is not being entirely honest" lie. This is a "here's what McCain says Obama said, and here's what he actually said, on tape." It's a made for Meet the Press moment. By pimping this one to his pals in the MSM, he's openly inviting a monumental reaming at about the worst time possible for him.

I can really come up with a few possible explanations for why they'd be doing this.

a) McCain's unhinged temper has so infected his team that they're just recklessly charging into the machine guns heedless of consequences.

b) They are so sublimely confident that the media will swoon, fluff and boozily swing in the tire swing that they truly think they can just say any goddamned thing they want and get away with it.

c)They are deliberately probing to find the outer limits of what they can, in fact, get away with saying. They have yet to have hit a limit and they really want to know where it is, so they're going extreme in an effort to find out.

d) They're just plain desperate. Maybe they felt like they need to pull ahead of him before Labor Day to have a chance of beating the huge ground game Obama's been building while we fretted, they've thrown everything they've got at him and all they've managed to do is move their ceiling up a couple of points, so now they're in "what the fuck," mode in a last ditch effort to either break through or go down in flames before they have to abide by spending limits.

"c)" Is the one that worries me a bit. If the MSM doesn't thoroughly light his ass up over this one, Team McGoo will (rightly) conclude that there are no limits on what they can say.

The MSM will do no such thing. The job has to be done by Obama surrogates- starting with Biden tonight- and Democratic 527s (any people tried to point out that Obama was making a big mistake trying to shove the latter off the stage- let's hope there's still time to recover).

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There is no limit to what Team McGoo can do. The MSM is in the tire swing for McCain. I don't know why yet, but it might have to do with the fact that all of the bobbleheads make more than $250,000 a year or maybe it has to do with how the MSM is concentrated, but they really want Team McGoo to win.

That said, the Obama ground game is scary. I have been around local Democratic politics for decades. I have never seen anything like the Obama team. I have personally received 5 calls from Obama people. Last night an organizer called to invite me to a Obama watch party tomorrow night. Nobody else has ever been that organized this far out. I doubt this bunch will miss a vote.

NC: don't labor for a moment under the assumption that Karl Rove USED to do presidential campaigns, but now he doesn't.

Steve Schmidt did not crawl out from a cabbage patch, you know.

No chance is there that the Obama camp might indicate just how dangerous the McCain approach is and how likely it is to lead to serious war, even exaggerate a bit (although not really necessary) and send up some serious alarm? Not really cricket and all that. After all losing well is more important than, well, winning. Our Democratic Party code.

Yes, I rather expect they will, once someone other than just us already decideds and won't change types are tuned in.

Well we heard from congressional Dems that holding impeachment hearings or stopping FISA abuses or not using inherent contempt powers for members of the executive refusing to even testify or even answer subpoenas would interfere with the coming election. My impression is that in a similar vein the Obama camp does not wish to do any action or issue any statement that interferes with this election. Probably post-mortems examinations of why Obama lost will not be held because they might interfere with the next election.

time to start just calling them press releases on video....

Off the subject, but this is from Fox News:

MINNEAPOLIS — Delegates to the Republican National Convention who are traveling into downtown St. Paul next week will be treated to a billboard-sized welcome from the other party.

The Democratic National Committee bought billboard space to display a picture of John McCain embracing President Bush with the message, “Does this look like change to you?”

“We’re going to spend every day looking for every opportunity to remind voters in the Twin Cities and across the country that a vote for John McCain is a vote for George W. Bush and his failed policies,” said Damien LaVera, a spokesman for the DNC.

That will include not just the billboard but posters on several bus stops that serve the Xcel Center in St. Paul.

Joanna Burgos, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Convention, didn’t return a call seeking comment Tuesday.

The Democrats also plan to distribute to reporters a multimedia press kit, which will include flash drives with an extensive catalog of McCain’s record — histories of his votes, past statements and other material the Democrats want to highlight.

A team of two dozen Democratic fact checkers will be sending out rapid responses to every GOP speaker.

In addition to the visual and multimedia cues, Democrats will hold daily press briefings in downtown St. Paul to counter the Republican message radiating from the Xcel Center. They’re setting up a media center just across the street.

That’s become standard procedure at the national political conventions. Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty is among those Republicans touting the McCain message this week at the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

LaVera wouldn’t hint at which Democrats would be tapped for the St. Paul patrol, but said there would be numerous national party figures.

They’ll be joined at the daily press conferences by Minnesota Democratic leaders, as well as people LaVera described as “Minnesota voters” who will talk about the impact of McCain’s policies.

One thing about the billboard, aside from being a totally great idea, is that it will rile up the party faithful. I think McCain wants the tone on the ultra-conservative talk and Bush/Cheney love to be dialed why down. Bush's approval rating is still around 30%. The delegates are some of those people who make up that 30% for the most part. And if the Dems stir up their loyalty, then it increases the likelihood that we can get some nice sound bites about how great Bush is, and that they're voting for McCain because he is like Bush.

Jet, of course it is. Be afraid of Obama he said "this" and he is Black, I'm John McCain and I'm white.

I hate lies, and the lying liars that tell them.

Does McCain have some mistaken belief that the American people are supportive of a war with Iran? I think this ad just makes McCain look like he wants another war...even the most conservative are worried about the possibility of a war with Iran. McCain is listening to Lieberman too much. This is a negative for McCain.

When you've been in a war for five years and you still can't explain to the country why, you might not want to run scary ads about another country you want to go to war with. It just doesn't sell. The country is tired of war, and tired of going into debt for war.

McCain is so out of it he thinks the country supports him on this. He might want to quit talking to WWII veterans and start talking to the people more.

I think the public's response to this will be, nuclear weapons? Didn't we hear this before about Iraq.

MSM won't do anything, and even if they, did no one would know because too few watch and listen to the kind of pundits who would correct this kind of thing, and hit it over the head, again and again.

No, Obama needs to prepare a coordinated counter-attack to this kind of lie and smear, because this is just the beginning. And Obama's response should be the same message to every one of these zingers. His surrogates need to start the meme, too

John McCain can NO LONGER be trusted. He's now a power-hungry, dirty, and say-anything politician.

Quick nod to his service (undercutting McCain's knee-jerk response) and then say how some in Washington get comfortable with distortions, half-truths, and inaction. I'd flash pictures of Vicki Iseman and Charles Keating lobbyists, headlines about Keating Five, lobbyists ties. I'd show how he has said he belongs to two different religions. Other flip flops. I'd cite his Senate absenteeism and voting ties to Bush. Then, I'd end with a montage of Bush, Cheney, etc. and the words "America has seen this movie before." Cut out with a voice over of Nixon's "Well, I'm not a crook."

Anyone else think that McCain kind of, sort of, reminds them of Nixon? That's right. And the American people, those that don't bother with details, will get that stuck in their brain, too.

The gloves need to come off, folks. These are jabs coming from the right at this moment. If Obama doesn’t defend himself, they will pummel him into a razor-tight election that could go either way.

So, does anyone still think we should be "bipartisan" with Republicans. Kinda reminds me of what a conservative said about date rape.

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Yep, the republican rank and file and some of the republican legislators to get our agenda through. The republican "leadership" can drill themselves.

And, what was that?

Latest Gallup Daily Tracking, 8-27: Obama 45, McCain 44.

"....McCain, dangerously insane to be president."

I'm Barack Obama and I approved THIS message!

When will the so-called MSM start honestly reporting on the McSame campaign and telling their viewers/readers that that campaign is increasingly based on little more than falsehoods and smears? Isn't this what they nominally get paid to do?

Let the McCain camp spend their money on this trash-voters will see through it all. At the rate they are going with all of these ads that are not doing much of anything to help him, he will soon be out of money.

I only wish that the voters would see through this kind of crap. The current polls and recent history suggest that they do not.

Enough of this pussying around, sly little ads about number of houses, etc. Take a page from the Rovian playbook; they know the first glimpse of something usually sticks, no matter how many rebuttals. The Democrats need to turn around and put up something just as egregious as what McCain does. I'd get out there and say that his policies amount to perpetual war, and if the electorate want to keep putting their kids into harm's way, vote for McCain. The guy's never met a country he didn't want to invade. Cold War II? Check, with John McCain as President. War with Russia over Georgia? Hot headed and ill tempered, "I wouldn't allow him anywhere near a nuclear trigger" John McCain wants war, period. And he will get it, if you elect him.

When I tell friends how disenchanted I am with the do-nothing, say-little Obama campaign they tell me how dangerous a McCain presidency would be (particularly in foreign affairs). And it always works on me. So why isn't the Obama camp hitting this theme daily about McCain and his senile warmongering and dangerous puppetmasters? Am I the only one who fears more McCain wars? Didn't Obama campaign that he would bring a gun to a knife-fight? Does he even have a pea-shooter?

I agree. The past couple months have been about Obama. His campaign, McCain's campaign, the press, they all just talk about Obama. Hopefully, we've worn that topic out.

The new theme has to ask a very straight forward question and get all Americans thinking about it:

"Do we really want to elect another Republican?"

It's straightforward and it switches the discussion to McCain.

At best, electing a Republican means putting the country on pause for four more years: no progress on the environment, health care, entitlment programs, etc.

Andrew Sullivan's piece on the dangers of McCain's facile foreign policy belligerence is excellent.

If he somehow manages to win in November, I think the country's buyer's remorse would be instant and huge.

Everything is not a smear. Distorting actual words to make a political point that fits your narrative isn't exactly the exclusive domain of McCain's camp either, or have we forgotten the "100 years" dust-up earlier. He needs to hit back, yes, but whining about smears and distortions is not necessarily a game that BO can win. The Rovians are simply better at it.

I agree. Unfortunately, complaining to the press shows a lack of confidence.

We'll see how Obama and Biden and the Dems come out after the convention. I think the gloves will be off.

As TPM homepage just pointed out, Leahy just through down the "senile card" big time. That's playing tough.

CNN have this.

They also have a response from the Obama campaign.

Giuliani just got asked whether it was a distortion at their little get together in Denver.

He obviously didn't know the actual context of the quote because he mistook the journalist's 'Posed a serious threat' to 'Poses a serious threat'from the Soviet Union.

Giuliani not so subtley didn't answer the question: Was it a distortion?

I still can't believe that the Republicans have the audacity to lecture everyone else on foreign policy when they presided over the biggest strategic blunder since Vietnam.

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One point, I think that the iraq fiasco was a bigger strategic blunder than vietnam. I think that we have to go all the way back to the war of 1812 for a bigger strategic blunder, when the us invaded canada, which prompted the british to invade the us. I think that one was bigger, but not by much.

The Page has Trapper calling them on their lies.

Oh, McCain. Seriously?

Someone mentioned it last night on one of the threads, but if a Dem feels compelled to say McCain is a friend, then they should add that he pushing the limits of that friendship with all these lies he is spreading.

The McCain Camp has been pulling a fast one on the MSM, and only now are they catching on - these are not ads but rather video press releases. If this was released in print form, it wouldn't get any coverage, but release it as a fake ad and it's all over the news.

Another fallacy is that the McCain Camp has to burn through all it's primary money by the time he accepts the GOP nomination. Once he accepts he simply donates any primary cash on hand to the RNC - which means the RNC can just use it to run ads against Obama. At least this is my understanding of the situation.

Jonze gets it.

So does this fella; sorry for the repost, but the Dems had damned well better read this, because it appears they know nothing of political advertising in the 21st Century:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/distract-and-detract-mcca_b_121560.html

It seems to me that the overarching reponse should be built around "recklessness." McCain is reckless with the truth and reckless with our security. Run footage of Obama at AIPAC supporting Israel and visiting in Jerusalem looking presidential and juxtapose that with the weird McCain smirk and his bomb, bomb, bomb Iran "joke."

I just think that 4 more years of the same is way too timid. The GOP says Obama is dangerously naive, well we say McCain is dangerously reckless.

Obama should point out these distortions, starting with that picture of Obama McSame shows in his commercials. Then he could point out the distortions on tax policy, Iraq policy, Iran policy, health care…..

Then tie McSame to the masters of distortion, Bush, Cheney and Rove.

If McCain is going to take Obama's remarks grossly out of context, please, please, please somebody make an ad with his recent comment to Yahoo! where he says "I am an illiterate." Sure he was talking about computers, but out of context...

This is absurd and absolutely ridiculous...

Does John McP.O.Dubya want to go to war with the whole world? Is he going to send Cindy to Iran to see if they have nukes when she's done in Georgia where she don't belong.

The MSM better get all over this and point out these distortions well lies.

Johnny McWar MUST BE STOPPED!!!!

MCcain>>> I know i said 100 years, well smiling we have been there for 6 so actually i mean 94 years and we be out. So don't distort my record.

Help me out -- is this the same kind of distortion that the Obama campaign is engaged in with respect to McCain jokingly saying that making $5 million makes you "rich"?

Or maybe it's the "don't talk about my wife" approach that infuriated Obama just a few short months before his campaign starting airing ads mentioning, and constantly talking about, the number of homes that McCain's wife owns.

President John McCain will sing while he nukes the world.

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