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New GOP Ad: Was Hillary Right About Obama's Experience?

The Republican National Committee sharpens its efforts to sow division among Dems on the eve of the Dem convention, releasing a new, hard-hitting ad that uses footage of Hillary delivering one of her harshest attacks on Obama's inexperience during the primary.

"Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign," Hillary says in the primary footage aired in the ad. "I will bring a lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will bring a speech he gave in 2002."

"Now Americans must ask ourselves, Should we elect the most inexperienced presidential candidate of our times?" the ad's narrator continues. "Or was she right?"

When Hillary said this stuff it was widely predicted -- accurately, it turns out -- that it would be used against Obama. The RNC, apparently, held off on using this particular footage until the start of the Dem convention, in the belief that they will be effective in sowing more division.

Late Update: Vid added above.


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You know what this is? This is the campaign the GOP had ready to run if Hillary had been chosen running mate. They just tweaked it is all.

Just like how they had an ad ready to air attacking Obama for using the troops at Landstuhl for military purposes, right?

Exactly like that.

Way to call it Greg: I hope this hits the MSM and they 'fess up!

It's a great ad. Why the Obama camp wasn't out ahead of this completely predictable campaign of anti-Obama Hillary ads, I have no idea. Maybe they're busy making another funny song about McCain not knowing much about the economy.

And is it just me or are the Republicans winning the propaganda war here by the virtue of simply creating and releasing just an ungodly number more ads than Obama and the Dems. Since Biden was announced, this is at least the fifth ad they've released, whereas Obama has released the Sam Cooke song. It just seems to me like there's no urgency to the Obama campaign.

McCain has to burn all cash on hand by the GOP convention when he accepts public money. He's going to blow Obama away on the airwaves for the next two weeks.

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You are correct, but with the Dem convention dominating the news this week much of it will go unheard.

At leas I hope it will.

Unfortunately, I think it will. The media is enthralled by the "Clintons and Obamas hate each other" story line. So, anything that focuses on dissension/highlights any inkling of party division will get much more press than it should.

Do you have an idea they could get ahead of ad that uses someone's actual words. The only way I can think of is if they had Hillary in ad saying I said this on this day, and I was wrong. Don't think she would do it.

They could have cut an ad with Hillary talking about how great Obama is, definitely. That's an easy one.

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And that ad will come from what she says at the convention.

True, but they already have more than enough for a 30 second ad.

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Do you really think this ad will sway anybody? Republicans hate Hillary and it will make no difference to her supporters who (a) are already backing Obama and (b) those who will never back him.

Besides, McCain and the RNC aren't even running these ads. They're just releasing them to the media to drive the "Hillary v. Obama" narrative and the media, always looking for a negative story, is eating it up.

I haven't seen all of her speeches, but what I have seen has her attacking McCain but when it comes to Obama it's in the weak vein of "we need to elect Obama." To counter this we need Hillary saying "Obama is the CIC this country needs." If that's out there, then yeah put it out there.

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Don't blame Obama's campaign or the RNC. Hillary's the one who's keeping all of this alive...she has one shot left, her speech, to convince eveyone she's behind Obama (and not with a knife in her hand).

Second that. She could very well deliver a barn-burner in support of Obama. Or she could do it tepidly, and foment resentment.

LOL @ the knife part.

I don't even believe these ads are hitting the airwaves, they're just for CNN to run with and play over and over again.

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Won't they be drowned out by the convention?

The GOP is doing the Dems a favor: by painting Hillary this way, she will be under tremendous pressure to do more than pay lip service to party unity.

Actually, the tag line about "lack of experience" is amusing.

Remind me exactly what Bill Clinton had done in foreign policy before running in 1992? Arkansas isn't exactly the epicenter of the country in technology nor culture.

Of course, people will cry: but look how much he was able to accomplish because he was smart!

To which I will reply: Exactly. And so will Obama.

Clearthinker, you beat me to it.

Really, I think a lot of the Hillary dead-ender/PUMA stuff is way overblown vis a vis their actual numbers and hold on reality. (Seriously. The people that I've seen who represent PUMAs seem truly unhinged. They make themselves too easy to dismiss.) CNN and the rest are breathless over "divided" party drama because well--that sells.

IMO, she could be far more pro-active in shutting this type of thing down. Now that there's an actual commercial featuring this bunk, however, this more pressure on her, without a doubt.

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The excuse is "9/11 changed everything."

It's also used when it's noted just how little foreign policy experience GWB had when he was elected.

Turn about is fair play...I can't wait to watch ads depicting Mccan't and Mittster tearing each other up!

I can't either -- where the hell are they?!

This is where Hillary has to come out strong and answer for her bullshit during the primary. We allll knew this was going to happen. She knew, but she didn't care.

Time for her to prove once in for all if she has any sort of spine or integrity, or if it really was just all about her, party be damned.

Exactly right!

"Now Americans must ask ourselves, Should we elect the most inexperienced presidential candidate of our times?" the ad's narrator continues. "Or was she right?"

We'll answer that for you 8 years from now.

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all: just added video of the ad to the post above

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Had Hillary been selected as running mate, it would have been ads like this, as Jonze noted (they already put out the Joe Biden version, PLUS "The ticket appears to be in the wrong order", PLUS, "If Obama couldn't stand up to the Clintons, how can we expect him to stand up to ?", PLUS Marc Rich, BJs, Clinton's post-presidential lobbying, etc, etc, etc, etc.

All the howling on the right about Obama not picking Hillary or Kaine or Sebelius or Bayh is because those are EXACTLY the people they wanted him to pick. All they can come up with re: Biden is that he puts his foot in his mouth sometimes. And they're scared as hell about his attack dog abilities and appeal to older, working class folks. The only other folks who may have worried them more are Mark Warner and Jim Webb, and both took themselves out of the running early. I'm not saying Biden is the perfect pick, but of those available, I'm betting he's the last guy the wingers wanted Obama to pick.

Had he picked Hillary - and I remain convinced she had no interest in the job - the attacks would have been much worse.

Agreed on this. If Hillary really wanted to be vice president, she would have personally lobbied Obama, HARD, for it. And we don't get the sense that she did. Seems like she backed off, and let all of this fester.

I agree. Not only she should of lobbied Barack Obama, but she should of denounced Bill, her supporters and former advisers behavior nasty tactics toward Obama. Hillary made her bed, now she must lay in it.

Jake Tupper reports the GOP is going after Obama for the shack his half-brother lives in, in Kenya! This is nuts. Cindy McCain has two half-sisters in the US that aren't living so great, come on, fair is fair.

I also noticed that under Jake Tupper comments there is big clamor for the press to cover the lawsuit filed in Federal Court that Obama is not constitutionally eligible to run for POTUS. Since this is also such crap, and anyone can sue for anything at anytime, this obviously is again trying to scare the masses. Has TPM discussed this?

How are they claiming that he's not constitutionally eligible?

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The claim is he wasn't born in the US, that his Hawaii birth certificate is a fake and that he actually was born in Indonesia.

The loonies are running the asylum.

Apparently Obama is not actually American but Kenyan, and he forged his birth certificate or something. 'Cause, you know, they do not actually check that when you file the candidacy papers.

Same old crap, in other words.

So, if Obama wins in November this gives the wingnuts on the right something to occupy themselves with for the next eight years since they won't have the Clintons to kick around anymore.

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Maybe this will finally get the Dems to support "Tort reform"...lol

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Ah, yes, because making sure a doctor can't be sued for more than the price of the funeral when his error kills your mother and that a corporation spewing toxins into the groundwater can't be held liable for the next 6.5 million years of cancer deaths in the area definitely would keep a whackjob from claiming that your birth certificate is invalid.

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One day I'll learn to stop expecting rational conversation here...*sigh*

A bit hyperbolic perhaps, but quite rational. Perhaps you're looking for a weaker argument?

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Nope, just a rational one. As long as you can successfully sue McDonalds for millions of dollars when you spill coffee in your own lap, we will need tort reform.

McDonalds doesn't serve coffee. McDonalds serves hot, brown battery acid.

But that's beside the point, which is: how is your McDonalds example on one extreme of the tort spectrum any more rational than Tom Dibble's hyperbolic examples? Does any of these examples represent the mean? Or perhaps they're all hyperbolic for rhetorical purposes, yes?

Let me tell you some things.

First, anyone can sue anyone for any amount-- all it takes is a name, a pulse, and the filing fee. Second, when you take a public position on the merits of a well-publicized jury award in a personal injury lawsuit, you need to be more than a Hannity-style knee-jerk schmuck. For your own sake, you should have some facts to support your ideology.

Re the McDonald's case you mention, suck on this:

The McDonald's Coffee Case Sorting through fact and fiction....

Myth: An opportunistic old woman launched a frivolous lawsuit when she spilled her McDonald's coffee on her lap.

Truth: Lieback was sitting in the passenger seat of her grandson's car holding a coffee after purchasing it from a drive-through window of a McDonald's. When she opened the lid to add cream and sugar, she spilled the coffee.

The simple accident caused third-degree burns on more than 6 percent of her body. She was treated in a hospital for a week. McDonald's served coffee 20 or so degrees hotter than the industry standard. The woman, Stella Liebeck, underwent numerous skin-graft surgeries as a result of her third-degree coffee burns to her thighs and groin area. She had permanent scarring on more than 16 percent of her body.

McDonald's had already ignored more than 700 similar claims of coffee burns, many involving children. The company even ignored a request from the Shriner's Burn Institute in Cincinnati to turn down its coffee.

McDonald's refused to pay the then 79-year-old woman's initial medical expenses totaling $11,000. McDonald's actually countered with an offer of $800. And they also refused to turn down the heat on their coffee. Left with $20,000 unpaid bills, she finally hired a lawyer.

A mediator later recommended the parties settle for $225,000. Again, McDonald's refused and the case went to trial.

McDonald's representatives lied to the court and jury about the existence of other claims. A jury reduced the original verdict of $200,000 to $160,000 for contributory negligence - Liebeck spilled it on herself.

Based on McDonald's annual profits of more than $1 billion annually, and more than $1.3 million gross daily coffee sales, the jury levied two days of coffee sales receipts as punitive damages for a punitive damage award of $2.7 million.

A judge later reduced the $2.7 million jury award to $480,000. McDonald's later settled the case for an undisclosed amount, requesting the deal be kept sealed. Most major newspapers ignored the judge's reduction and the final outcome of the case.

Punitive damage awards are not currently allowed under Washington law. Juries undoubtedly return verdicts when faced with a large corporate defendant who has ignored reasonable pleas to resolve such situations or grievances.

In this case, McDonald's simply refused to turn down the heat, so the jury turned it up on McDonald's.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A429950

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Thanks, Hil.

I sincerely hope she's not looking for my vote when she runs for re-election again.

I'll take a good long look at whoever comes up to challenge her, because those statements during the primaries are going to hurt Obama's chances.

We all knew it, and no doubt so did she.

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Obama pretty much had the nomination locked by the end of February. All the Clinton nastiness after that point in time should be held against her.

Saturday night live mocked her for setting up her 2012 run long ago. They said she would be sending signals to her supporters, secretively, that should not back Obama. I think they were right.

Thanks Hillary you and your DLC CRIMINAL HACKS

I HATE Hillary, and now Bill too, whining about his speech topic at the convention. He wanted to discuss his achievements. They are the most self-centered people. She should be all over the television supporting Obama, and where the hell is she? Plotting her 2012 campaign? If she thinks ANY democrat would back her after this year's display, she is just plain stupid.

What next? Obama's half-brother's wife cannot even afford botox?

This is the type of laborious attacks we could of expected had B.Obama chosen HRC as his running mate. I am so glad Obama passed Hillary up.

Has anyone seen the newest ad the Texas GOP is running regarding Obama living in a mansion, wanting to live in the White House, yet ignoring his Kenyan brother who lives in a shack on $1.00 per day?

It was on Fox News about an hour ago. Wow, it was hard hitting!

Obama may wish he'd left the McCain housing issue alone!

Sure thing. Talk to CindyLou McCain about her half-sisters.

Oh, are they living in tiny huts in severe poverty on $1.00 per day too?

Who knew?

Did Obama ever deny that his half-brother ever existed so he could hoard his families million dollar fortune himself? I guess CindyLou was too busy lying about Mother Theresa....

I can't wait for the 527's to go after Cindy and her half-sisters.

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Tsk, tsk. Cindy Lou is an only child. She said so, herself, at her father's funeral, while her sister sat right in front of her.

Republican Family Values, on display for all the world to see.

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There's a typo in your comment. What you actually meant to say, but slipped up, was "Osama may wish he'd left...."

Thanks for the edit! :)

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No problem, troll. Oh, you might be interested in this, from Marc Ambinder:

This is a web video designed to rally the Republican faithful. It was produced and paid for by the Republican Party of Texas.

In case you're reading comprehension isn't up to snuff, the important points are: "web video" (translation: no one outside of nutty Republican supporters will see it) and "rally the Republican faithful" (translation: those who would rather vote for a parakeet than vote for a Democrat).

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And one other thing: you ever think about why the Texas Republican Party feels it has to "rally the faithful"?

Must be significantly closer in Texas than anyone thinks....

and yet everyone watching Fox News has seen it!

Yeah, I'm sure they were all planning on voting for Obama before they saw it.

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Exactly. The Republican party brand is such crap right now that they're desperately trying to rally the base. I'd be pretty concerned right now, if I were a Republican.

I mean, think about it: why would the base need rallying when it has the most awesomest candidate ever, who, I don't know if you know this, was a heroic POW (TM)?

I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know that because, you know, they only talk about it 10 or 20 times a day...

Hey..I heard that Mark H's "The Page" wants your comments thru out the democratic convention...you and he are as dumb as they come!

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Well that is his favorite Bible passage:
"[T]he Golden Rule. It's very simple. I mean, it's a very simple concept. I think what he asks of me is that I treat my brother as -- and my sister -- as I would have them treat me."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200804290004

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So when are McCain and the GOP going to propose that large foreign aid package to assist ALL poor Kenyans? Or how about poor Americans? And Lori, when will you be cutting a check to Obama's half-brother?

It's a silly attack whose main goal is to present Obama as a scary, exotic, bushman. It has nothing to do with houses. If you want to talk about how focusing on the fact that McCain is so out of touch with the economy in the US that he can't even be bothered to remember that he owns at least 7 homes is dangerous territory for Obama, I'll see if I can dig up Mark Halperin's email address.

And the brother said he wants to be a self-made man and wouldn't want money from Obama. This isn't an issue about money, this is the GOP trying to point out that Obama has a Kenyan brother, and thus Obama isn't really 100% American.

Exactly. The brother is on record (in the recent CNN piece) as not wanting anything from Barack.

Anyone watching Fox News is NOT voting for Obama.

MEMO TO McCain:

Look at the polls on upper right hand on this website. Obama is leading in all the major battle ground states, plus the red states like Colorado and Virginia. Your pathetic attacks are not working.

I'm hoping Obama will take his speaking opportunity to tear the stuffing out of McShame.

hillary and bill are pathetic. they haven't come to obama's defense even once.

this is why she should have quit. fucking douchebags.

By the way, here is an interview with the star of that ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDh2mRAP-T8

You can clearly see that, for at least some Hillary supporters, this was about a cult of personality (or, dare I say it?: gender) rather than about Dem party ideals.

Oops! Sorry! That was supposed to be on another thread!

These ads don't run on the airwaves, they run on the internet.

and yet, everyone watching Fox News is seeing it!

Ooohhh....Fox News. You've convinced me. I'm surprised they've broken away from coverage of chasing bigfoot in the North GA mountains to cover any of the campaign.

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Has anyone seen the newest ad the Texas GOP is running regarding Obama living in a mansion, wanting to live in the White House, yet ignoring his Kenyan brother who lives in a shack on $1.00 per day?

Yes, I saw it yesterday. All I have to say is, maybe they should have contacted Barack's bro before going ahead with this ad.

Behind The Scenes: Meet George Obama
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.brother/

Eh, the Republicans will probably tear down the guy for thinking he can actually make his way through life without relying on handouts from his half-brother.

McCain 'Don't Know Much'
Amazingly funny, and accurate: ...

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/08/obama_ad_mccain_dont_know_much.html

Pass it on!

A new Obama ad uses the classic Sam Cooke song "Wonderful World" (with altered lyrics) to show that McCain doesn't "know much" about the economy and would continue the policies of the Bush administration. The closing line: "Do we really want four more years of the same tune?" The ad begins airing today on national cable in battleground states.

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Kevin B

I'm saying it now: President Barack H. Obama, Jr., 2009 - 2017

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She has to do an ad saying:

"I underestimated Barack Obama during the primaries. If I hadn't I probably would have won the nomination. He ran a brilliant campaign and he won fair and square. He's proven it to all of us - he's a leader and he's ready!"

Yeah. But I won't hold my breath.

Why do you guys even border to watch faux noise? GOP Ad attacking Obama is a way to energize their base. Republican Party has always energized their base buy throwing them red meat.

Delegates are red meat to the Republicans

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Funny thing I figure they would have done the same thing to Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton didn't have any foreign policy experience either.

Why do you guys even border to watch faux noise? GOP Ad attacking Obama is a way to energize their base. Republican Party has always energized their base buy throwing them red meat.

I meant to say, negative Ads are red meat to the base - when it comes to Republican Party

GWB was pretty darn inexperienced when he ran for president and the GOP loved that guy.

Hillary's response (From Politico's Ben Smith):

"I'm Hillary Clinton and I do not approve that message," Clinton tells the New York delegation of McCain's ad that features her old criticism of Obama.

Clinton says Democrats are gathered in Denver for a "clear and specific purpose and that is to elect Barack Obama President of the United States," my colleague Amie Parnes reports.

"Now I ask each and every one of you to work as hard for Obama as you worked for me," she said.

I want to see that line (say it by herself) in an ad ASAP!

Also this little jewel from FiveThirtyEight.com:

"...it also tosses a big softball to Hillary Clinton, who will speak to a national audience on Tuesday. The risk to the Republicans can be summarized in five words: "Shame on You, John McCain". A finger-wagging, how-dare-you moment by either of the Clintons at the convention -- but especially Hillary -- could be both effective and therapeutic, especially when coupled with a reminder that McCain voted against measures like SCHIP (and voted to impeach her husband)."

Go ahead. Discuss.

Obama-Biden'08: Experience the Change!

I forgot: Smith, you still suck, but compared to CNN and Halperin, you starting to look just right.

Between Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin, the Politico blogs are actually providing the best blogging coverage of this election, I think.

They're partisan, but clearly so, and they do cover stories from the other party in their blogs.

And they provide more up-to-the-minute info than any other blog.

Could this be a trap? And McCain and the MSM may be walking into it.

All this attention on a "rift" will boost the attention on HRC and WJC's speeches. If their wholeheartedly endorse Obama and take shots at McCain, this whole MSM-GOP ruse will backfire.

The Real McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxrPGFjOUYI


This is the risk the GOP takes with this tack.

On the other hand, they have to try it.

Obesever2, you are so so right. Great observation and analysis.

"Blessed are the philanderers and those who abandon their family for financial and political gain; for they shall inherit the Bush White House."

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Edwards didn't get the nomination...remember?

No, but the Big Mongrel sure did.

These ads do nothing more than to remind Obama supporters why they did not vote for Hillery Clinton. This campaign of Division will hurt Hillery if she ever runs for President again. Her supporters have ruined her chances of ever being President. It takes all of the Democrats to put Hillery in the White house, I think they may have forgotten that one little fact. They had better pray that Obama wins, if Hillery is ever to get a chance of being this country's first woman president.

I guess it will be safe to say after these attacks used with Hillery, McCain will not be selecting Rommney as his VP. This is a clear clue unless they are fools. Romney would provide even better material against McCain then this.

#1 Whether or not Hillary's campaign said it, it's still the truth and it would have been used in any case. It isn't a lie that Hillary made up - it's the truth that his supporters refused to accept. If anything, Hillary went too easy on Obama, which accounts for the way his campaign has completely fallen apart under heavy fire from McCain.

#2 Even Joe Biden said the same thing - that Obama was not ready to be president. So why not blame him for giving McCain the idea? Because the Hillary haters can never resist blaming her for all of Obama's shortcomings as a candidate.

#3 Obama had a duty to unite the party. If he had chosen her as VP, what she said in the primaries would no longer have the same effect. But Obama failed in his duty, and snubbed half of all Democratic voters that supported her. His own actions are what make the charge of political inexperience valid. That's why most Americans will judge him to be too immature to unite his own party, let alone unite America.

What on earth is happening to this site?

The convention is going to be amazing. The GOP are just putting out this crap because they know it is going to be a historical and memorable convention. Let's just stay focused on that and not let the GOP dirty it up with these school-yard ads they are putting out by the hour.

They just make me determined to double my donations to the Obama/Biden campaign from this point until the election.

Democrats '08!

Basically, he is calling HRC holdouts dumbasses. What is more sexist than using a woman as a political tool?

Of course McCain has a lifetime of experience. Unfortunately at his age he doesn't seem to remember much.

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