McCain Calls On United Nations To Condemn Russia's "Unacceptable" Aggression
John McCain is upping his hawkish rhetoric on Russia's military action against Georgia, blasting Russia's bombing of the smaller country as "unacceptable" and demanding that the United Nations bring a resolution condemning it.
McCain delivered a statement on the crisis to reporters today.
"Yesterday Georgia withdrew its troops from South Ossetia and offered a ceasefire," McCain said. "The Russians responded by bombing the civilian airport in Georgia's capital, Tblisi, and by stepping up its offensive in Abkhazia...This should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation of Russian aggression."
"The United States and our allies should continue efforts to bring a resolution befo the UN Security Council condemning Russian aggression, noting the withdrawal of Georgian troops from South Ossetia, and calling for an immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgian territory," McCain added. "We should move ahead with the resolution despite Russian veto threats, and submit Russia to the court of world public opinion."
McCain's response continues to be more hawkish and confrontational than Obama's. And McCain clearly hopes to use the combo of the violence and Obama's vacation to associate himself more directly with an international crisis and to try to remind people that the world remains a dangerous place, something the McCain camp presumably believes will play in his favor. His full statement after the jump.
"Americans wishing to spend August vacationing with their families or watching the Olympics may wonder why their newspapers and television screens are filled with images of war in the small country of Georgia. Concerns about what occurs there might seem distant and unrelated to the many other interests America has around the world. And yet Russian aggression against Georgia is both a matter of urgent moral and strategic importance to the United States of America.
"Georgia is an ancient country, at the crossroads of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and one of the world's first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion. After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises.
"Following fraudulent parliamentary elections in 2003, a peaceful, democratic revolution took place, led by the U.S.-educated lawyer Mikheil Saakashvili. The Rose Revolution changed things dramatically and, following his election, President Saakashvili embarked on a series of wide-ranging and successful reforms. I've met with President Saakashvili many times, including during several trips to Georgia.
"What the people of Georgia have accomplished - in terms of democratic governance, a Western orientation, and domestic reform - is nothing short of remarkable. That makes Russia's recent actions against the Georgians all the more alarming. In the face of Russian aggression, the very existence of independent Georgia - and the survival of its democratically-elected government - are at stake.
"In recent days Moscow has sent its tanks and troops across the internationally recognized border into the Georgian region of South Ossetia. Statements by Moscow that it was merely aiding the Ossetians are belied by reports of Russian troops in the region of Abkhazia, repeated Russian bombing raids across Georgia, and reports of a de facto Russian naval blockade of the Georgian coast. Whatever tensions and hostilities might have existed between Georgians and Ossetians, they in no way justify Moscow's path of violent aggression. Russian actions, in clear violation of international law, have no place in 21st century Europe.
"The implications of Russian actions go beyond their threat to the territorial integrity and independence of a democratic Georgia. Russia is using violence against Georgia, in part, to intimidate other neighbors - such as Ukraine - for choosing to associate with the West and adhering to Western political and economic values. As such, the fate of Georgia should be of grave concern to Americans and all people who welcomed the end of a divided of Europe, and the independence of former Soviet republics. The international response to this crisis will determine how Russia manages its relationships with other neighbors. We have other important strategic interests at stake in Georgia, especially the continued flow of oil through the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which Russia attempted to bomb in recent days; the operation of a critical communication and trade route from Georgia through Azerbaijan and Central Asia; and the integrity and influence of NATO, whose members reaffirmed last April the territorial integrity, independence, and sovereignty of Georgia.
"Yesterday Georgia withdrew its troops from South Ossetia and offered a ceasefire. The Russians responded by bombing the civilian airport in Georgia's capital, Tblisi, and by stepping up its offensive in Abkhazia. This pattern of attack appears aimed not at restoring any status quo ante in South Ossetia, but rather at toppling the democratically elected government of Georgia. This should be unacceptable to all the democratic countries of the world, and should draw us together in universal condemnation of Russian aggression.
"Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin must understand the severe, long-term negative consequences that their government's actions will have for Russia's relationship with the U.S. and Europe. It is time we moved forward with a number of steps.
"The United States and our allies should continue efforts to bring a resolution before the UN Security Council condemning Russian aggression, noting the withdrawal of Georgian troops from South Ossetia, and calling for an immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgian territory. We should move ahead with the resolution despite Russian veto threats, and submit Russia to the court of world public opinion.
"NATO's North Atlantic Council should convene in emergency session to demand a ceasefire and begin discussions on both the deployment of an international peacekeeping force to South Ossetia and the implications for NATO's future relationship with Russia, a Partnership for Peace nation. NATO's decision to withhold a Membership Action Plan for Georgia might have been viewed as a green light by Russia for its attacks on Georgia, and I urge the NATO allies to revisit the decision.
"The Secretary of State should begin high-level diplomacy, including visiting Europe, to establish a common Euro-Atlantic position aimed at ending the war and supporting the independence of Georgia. With the same aim, the U.S. should coordinate with our partners in Germany, France, and Britain, to seek an emergency meeting of the G-7 foreign ministers to discuss the current crisis. The visit of French President Sarkozy to Moscow this week is a welcome expression of transatlantic activism.
"Working with allied partners, the U.S. should immediately consult with the Ukrainian government and other concerned countries on steps to secure their continued independence. This is particularly important as a number of Russian Black Sea fleet vessels currently in Georgian territorial waters are stationed at Russia's base in the Ukrainian Crimea.
"The U.S. should work with Azerbaijan and Turkey, and other interested friends, to develop plans to strengthen the security of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline.
"The U.S. should send immediate economic and humanitarian assistance to help mitigate the impact the invasion has had on the people of Georgia.
Our united purpose should be to persuade the Russian government to cease its attacks, withdraw its troops, and enter into negotiations with Georgia. We must remind Russia's leaders that the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world require their respect for the values, stability and peace of that world. World history is often made in remote, obscure countries. It is being made in Georgia today. It is the responsibility of the leading nations of the world to ensure that history continues to be a record of humanity's progress toward respecting the values and security of free people.
"Thank you."















lately McCain has not only taken millions from oil interests. He’s also become a consummate jerk. He falsely accused Obama of refusing to visit wounded troops because cameras couldn’t be present. His campaign accused Obama of being “presumptuous” in seeking the highest office—a rough synonym for “uppity” in this context. Then his campaign had the gall to accuse Obama of “playing the race card”—a view that McCain did not disclaim. And what can you say about someone who introduces Britney Spears and Paris Hilton into serious discussions of leadership and foreign policy, other than that he’s a jerk?
We have here a reverse Superman story. Admirable war hero and maverick Clark McCain sneaks into a telephone booth. There he dons garb supplied by Rove’s disciple Schmidt. At last he emerges, transformed and resplendent as Frat Boy II.
McCain has taken the frat-boy mantle from Dubya and is preparing to succeed him as the biggest jerk in American politics, the frat boy in chief. Like Dubya, McCain aims to win with snideness, sarcasm, and puerile verbal chops, forsaking any semblance of serious debate. His own lies (on the wounded troops), name calling (“presumptuous,” “elitist,” “out of touch”) and titillating irrelevancies (Spears and Hilton) echo Dubya’s Swift-boating and “flop-flopping” John Kerry and “Defeatocrating” his party.
What else can McCain do? Obama outclasses him in education, intelligence and detailed command of the issues. Obama crushes him in perspective, emotional balance and self-restraint.
Once the three debates begin, it will hopefully be over for John McCain. Outsmarted and outclassed, he will likely lose his legendary temper and release the schoolyard bully lurking within him. The whole nation will see the irascible, explosive personality with which his Senate colleagues are familiar, but which so far has stayed hidden from the general public.
August 11, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Republicans didn't believe in "the court of world public opinion."
August 11, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ironically, this situation was created largely by Bush's unecessary isolation of Russia by recruiting so many eastern European countries into NATO and building that ridiculous missile system on their borders.
Russia, now that it has its economic house in order, is re-asserting itself and making sure the world knows it is once again a power to contend with.
Thanks Bush-McCain.
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August 11, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
P.S. Greg - you're absolutely right. McCain is doing everything in his power to push this as the key issue so that voters see his "toughness" and "experience."
And you know what? It may work. I always tend to underestimate the intelligence of voters and I'm frequently right.
But I wonder if the notion of more war and hawkish-ness just may not appeal this time around. And to the degree that the world is a mess, that may remind voters that Bush has been President during these last 8 years.
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August 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
As for McCain -- cool down the rhetoric dude. You will only make the situation worse by calling on people to 'condemn' stuff. Granted, Russia did a bad thing -- but right now cooler heads need to prevail.
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August 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have a friend who works with a woman - long time Dem, Hillary supporter - who actually believes that Obama is the anti-Christ. She's not even a Christian wacko, just a fan of the "Left Behind" series. How sad is that? And this is in suburban NJ.(she's not voting for McCain either - she's sitting this one out)
August 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's "not a wacko".....how do you figure?
August 11, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
She may not be a Christian wacko, but anyone who believes that Obama is the antichrist is, by definition, a wacko.
August 11, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is trying to drive an issue that won't track. The public isn't even interested in Iraq and Afghanistan and we have troops and dollars there.
Besides, Americans are tired of war and McCain's bellicose warmongering is a real turn-off. Talk aobut a doofus!
August 11, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I don't think Americans view Russia as an enemy these days. And I'm certain they don't want another cold war, which is where McCain would lead us. This is a local conflict with a loooooong history. We should play referee here and not choose sides, although we can certainly call out the players when they step over the line. (eg - Georgia shouldn't have kickstarted this thing by moving into South Ossetia; Russia should have stood down already) McCain doesn't want us to be the referee.
Here's a question that seems relevant here. How much impact did similar situations like Kosovo or Chechnya have on our electoral politics?
The most this does is fire up the base, the National Review/neo-con set. And they probably needed a little firing up so this might help McCain a bit. But it's not going to be the deciding factor for the undecideds, not even close.
Of course, as das noted above, you can never overestimate the intelligence of American voters.
August 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is a complex situation, one that will require great care, diplomacy, and a cool head. McCain's response is where he was headed already - belligerence, further isolation of Russia, kick them out of the G8, and launch a new cold war. Yeah, that's what Americans want.
I'm sure we're all supposed to be impressed by the details in the McCain camp's statement. Well, when your top foreign policy advisor works for the Georgian government and when your candidate is an old cold warrior, of course they are going to be well-versed in all the details of a matter that, realistically, just isn't a top concern for American voters right now. Of course, they'll try to make it a concern for voters by tying this skirmish to gas prices, which McCain's camp already tried to do in the statement above.
Also, given that it's still August and the election - never mind the inauguration - is months away, should McCain be playing president? That's what they accused Obama of doing simply because he met with foreign leaders. Now McCain is playing foreign policy spokesperson for our country?
August 11, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Macho bullshit bellicosity over stuff like this from candidates than you could not follow through on as President is a fine old tradition in U.S. presidential politics that both sides have played since the tail end of the Washington administration.
Polk ran on a platform of "Fifty Four Forty or Fight" and then proceeded to negotiate a Northwest border with Britain that was well below that line. Dewey attacked Truman for "losing China." Kennedy attacked Eisenhower over a nonexistent "Missle Gap." Clinton attacked Bush I for not being tough enough on China. Bush II attacked Clinton for not being tough enough on China.
Problem is, because so many have done it for so long, there's a tendency by the DC establishment to discount bellicose kooky-talk precisely because everyone does it. And, unfortunately, sometimes they're serious and the MSM fails to percieve it.
August 11, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go ahead. Show us your leadership. You and that idiot Saashkavili
August 11, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Puhleeze...
The only reason McCain is breaking sweat over this is so that he can say later on that he was fixing the world while Obama was fixing his tan in Hawaii.
August 11, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Which is the silliest argument in the world given that a) Obama hasn't had a vacation in 19+ months and b) neither McCain nor Obama is the president of this country, and it's that guy and his administration who need to take the lead on this, not a couple of senators running for president. McCain can chant and chant all he wants, he has not role here unless some sort of resolution related to the conflict is brought before the Senate. And given McCain's attendance record in that chamber over the last year, he probably won't even show up to vote on it.
August 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right. And when was the last time making silly arguments was a problem for McCain?
August 11, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Someone might think to ask McSame a couple of questions like
1. Why did Bush and Rick Davis let Georgia go off half-cocked with its hairbrained adventure
and
2. What in the hell is he gonna do about it?
I guess Bush told them!
Let him get as far out on that limb as he likes
While a senior Russian general insisted that Russia has no plans to press further into Georgian territory — its troops are now in two breakaway provinces — the order to disarm carried the threat that Russian-sponsored fighting would sprea
August 11, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
The U.N? That should go over well with the UN-hating base.
August 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe McCain expects the U.N. to say "no, thanks." That really would go over well with the anti-UN crowd.
August 11, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
And now we can feel how america is now impotent in foreign policy because we are caught with 'our pants down'. We have no standing... Russia does not have any concern for what america, our president, or our future presidents have to say. We have to go to Europe and say, 'hey can you do something about this', because we can't.
August 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
UR so right. He walks right into a dog pile on that one ignoring the fact that Strafor pointed out last week that we should learn to shut up when we don't have the wherewithal to do anything about it and why is that?
Well, we have our troops tied up in a small country we invaded
August 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's McSame going to do? Pout?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/11/georgia.russia8?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
August 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is being presumptuous and acting as if he's already president.
August 11, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Obama should say that there is only one President and that's George Bush. In in such an international matter there should only be one voice coming from America, the voice of the President.
Of course Obama can't make political hay out of this issue or the McCain Camp will say "Obama is trying to play political games over a war".
August 11, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
What leverage does the west have in this situation, what would McCain do to back up his rhetoric? One option is for politicians from the west to fly into Tblisi as a gesture of solidarity amongst democracies. Would Rice, Cheney or Bush do that? Would McCain or Obama? Sarkozy? How would Putin respond?
In the next few months if this is seen as the beginning of a new cold war over resources and the usual republican/insecurity reflexes are still operative, this could benefit republicans in general and McCain indirectly. But after Bush I don't think it works that way anymore.
August 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone else think that the best thing for us to do here is sit and watch? I hear Cheney saying "Russian aggression must not go unanswered," but I can't help wondering why not.
August 11, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Georgia was used and abused by the United States. They mistakenly thought America would rush to their aid and start WW3 on their account it seems because they backed the US in Iraq (sending 2000 troops - the 3rd most), and then danced with the possibility of joining NATO. Imagine what the situation would be if they were accepted into NATO right now?
America doesn't have the moral high ground to stand on here, preemptively invading Iraq, quickly legitimizing Kosovo's independence, renditions, torture etc.
Russia has their own interests and one of those is not to be surrounded by NATO countries. Imagine if Russia wanted to put a missile system in Cuba? Or in Venezuela? What would America do to stop that?
August 11, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone here should realize it was Obama's fault that Russia invaded Georgia.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmIxMGNhOGMyYzFhNDA5ODRmZjVhNjVmMWEzMWMyOTg=
August 11, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did John McCain really just bring up the oil pipeline in his first paragraph on the issue? Before mentioning the loss of human life? Before pointing out that the government of Georgia was democratically elected?
I have sympathy for all sides in this matter. Let me try to summarize.
Russia: You are fucking up. I don't think you thought through the consequences of these actions. EU membership? G8? The Olympics you are planning to hold right next door to the embattled region? It's like you never want to join Europe or modern times.
Republicans: Good job breaking our military! You handily declared that we'd never need to fight a normal war again. You thought that readiness didn't matter because from 2001 until the end of time we'd just be dealing with assymetric muslim radicals. Idiots!
Everyone: Fact of the matter is, we should probably have our troops in Tbilisi right now. We can't go to war with Russia (see above) but we should make sure that the democratically-elected government of Georgia stays stable and secure. I can understand not wanting to get into the actual fighting in Sout Ossetia and Abkhazia, but we should defend Georgia proper.
August 11, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
to quote Gollum: 'tricksy. tricksy they is..'
our best bet is either balls to the wall or sit back and shut the fuck up. if we sent troops to 'defend Georgia proper' we had better send a lot and be prepared to have (and win) a nuclear staredown or worse with Russia. Do YOU trust Bush in that situation? I don't. I think Putin would (has/is) hand Bush his ass before Bush knew it had even started. The KGB is one hell of a different proving ground to earn your stripes than being a drunken ruling elite son running baseball teams and oil companies into the ground before being appointed to do the same to your country. Since I don't trust our leadership in a balls to the wall encounter, I think our best bet here is to shut the fuck up. In gangster parlance: we don't got the muscle to do anything about this. This is Russia's backyard. If we hop the fence and try to take their ball we're gonna get our ass kicked. Why? It's not because our troops and equipment aren't better than theirs (they most certainly are!) but because we can't project enough force there to have a decisive impact without using strategic (read nuclear) capabilities. Just think it through. What happens if we start patrolling the skies above Georgian airspace? What happens when we have the inevitable 'incident' leading to the death of either our or russian troops? Are YOU willing to die over Georgia's independence? How many of us are? To the person above who pointed out the Soviet nukes don't even work. How much do you want to bet SOME of them still do? Your life? Mine? I would have hoped people would have learned from Bush's gamble in Iraq that when playing with the ship of State, you are playing for KEEPS and it doesn't pay to make chancy moves unless you have to. A lesson the young Georgian President is now learning the hard way from the wily vet Putin.
Any concept that we do anything here for Georgian independence or democracy is bullshit. If we do anything it's because we (read NATO allies in europe) can't afford to have Russia holding them by the balls with control of the energy flow out of the Caspian. It's pipeline power politics. 'The spice MUST flow..' That's what's in play here and Russia is making strong, strong moves on the geopolitical chessboard. Our gambit in the middle east left us with too few resources to put in play to counter this move by Russia and we have to sit back, deal with the consequences and reassess the situation once the dust settles. Bottom line is Russia can go as far as she pleases here because we can't afford to stop her and achieve our other objectives (Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan) at the same time. If we choose to do something then we'll need to admit our objectives in the Middle east were a farce to begin with and leave it to the wolves while we reposition ourselves for a bigger play in the caspian. Putin is correctly calculating that we can't afford to play for and win both so we must choose. America has spent decades successfully without running things in the Caucasus and it is most likely that we won't go all in to take control now when we have so much on the line elsewhere. Bush does like to gamble quite a bit so anything is possible but the wise play is for us to cut a deal while we have a chip or two left in the area and see what we can salvage and what the Russians are willing to give. What's more important? preventing Iranian nukes or having control of central asian energy resources? success in Iraq or the post-soviet states? Putin is forcing us to choose by raising the cost for the latter significantly.
August 11, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is Bush/McCain's Chickens coming home to roost. Russia is behaving in the very same manner as the USA did when it invaded Iraq, and when they urged and supported Israel's last massive bombing attack on Lebanon.
The Republicans set the standard for ignoring International norms, and thereby lost all moral authority to stand up to the same behavior from Russia.
August 11, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, the only straight talk he's given is the promise of "more wars" "..there's gonna be other wars, my friendgs..." says McCain.
"He [McCain] will make Cheney look like Ghandi."
~Pat Bucahan
(I don't like to quote Buchanan much, but that one's a gem.)
Once again:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Republicans_and_miltary_men_on_John_McCain
August 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
This might have triggered his most recent attack of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
August 11, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Russia really doesn't feel like it has any place to go on this. (1) If it plays nice, Georgia becomes a NATO member -- an insufferable humiliation and provocation. (2) If it plays rough, then it must be "condemned." (3) If it does nothing when Georgia attacks, it loses all respect and soon Ukraine is also a NATO member and maybe other parts of Russia also break off --why not?
Of the three options, being "condemned" is best. Bush created this mess by his stupefying impudence and boorishness, as rightly noted several times above. He has seldom met a man he didn't want to con, and Putin has had it up to here. And McCain is acting like a buffoon.
August 11, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who was the real aggressor in S.Ossetia war ?
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13285
(Trolls are exempted from reading this, given their limited intelligence)
August 11, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you are so right! And you'd never know it from the Western media, how Russia needs to be so condemned and all. It's nearly Orwellian how the narrative is unrelated to the facts.
August 11, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clearly, McCain is using this issue to establish and reinforce his foreign policy bona fides. It's smart politics for him to do so.
It's also troubling that Obama's vacation coincides with the crisis in the Caucasus. It feeds into the meme of him being unserious, and inexperienced.
I think he should hold a presser reasserting his voice in this discussion. He can't allow McCain to hog the headlines on this crucial issue.
August 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think too many Americans want to pick a fight with Russia right now. And McCain's tough talk is highlighting his "more wars" mentality.
Obama isn't the President. It's being presumptuous of McCain releasing all of these statements. America speaks with one voice internationally in times of crisis - the Presidents voice.
Besides Bush didn't rush home from Beijing, but instead stayed there to ogle at beach volleyball woemn and join the Men's Basketball team huddle. And this is the President who probably got Georgia into this mess in the first place by likely making under-the-table promises when they sent troops to Iraq.
August 11, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pundits may love this and be eager to talk about tension with Russia, but the man on the street could give a rats ass.
The Olympics are on. $4 gas is a killer. The US has it's hands full with Iraq and Afghanistan. The last thing in the world people want to think about is Georgia (Isn't that the state with Atlanta?)
I'll never underestimate the stupidity and callowness of the press/pundit corp but real Americans don't care.
August 11, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
August 11, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is incredibly stupid. McCain's overly personal involvement with Georgia shows just how dangerous he is. He could start more wars than Bush and totally unravel the ending of the Cold War.
McCain is not just a jerk, not just a sleazy politician, he's incredibly dangerous for America.
McCain = Four (For?) More Wars!
August 11, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
In the inimitable words of fat Ed McMahon,
"You are correct, Sir!"
August 11, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has backed himself into a corner, again. If Georgia is given Nato membership, then an attack by Russia on Georgia, is an attack on all members of Nato, including the usa.
Same as his drill now policy, where he cannot endorse the bipartisan efforts of ten senators, including close friends of his own, because he has already committed to my way or the highway.
Ready, shoot, aim. He is not ready to be potus. He never will be.
August 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
And we have another winner!!! EXACTLY RIGHT, this shows the utter stupidity of Georgia being in NATO. Before you invite some far-off microstate as your military ally, think about what the damnfools might do and to whom. Who are their neighbors? Are those neighbors people we need to be at war with? Is the leadership cool and collected? Is the place strategically vital?
If it is strategically vital but the leadership is not cool and collected, maybe you need to worry a bit about the leadership before you commit. Collect your gift at the door, Sir!
August 11, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
The scary bit is that Bush was pushing for Georgia to join NATO even though it had these unfinished wars and foreign occupation. If they had actually joined NATO this would have destroyed NATO.
The Georgians are so close to the Bush administration I have to wonder if they got the go ahead from Bush to attack S. Ossetia before they made thier move.
I think this little war is bad news for the Democrats as it could blow up into a major issue for the election. The Republicans love any issue that will distract the electors from the state of the economy. Restarting the cold war to win an election? Nah could never happen could it?
August 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
it's a real concern because a lot of people don't understand the real implications of some of the policies. a lot of people didn't realize that Bush's foreign policy is the most radical in American history. As pointed out above by Eurotrash Johnny, folks don't realize what 'alliance' really entails for allies. it's all gravy when the getting is good but when shit is hitting the fan... these things have to be thought through deeply and you can't play at war. it's serious business and you have to choose carefully who you go to war with, when and why. seems simple, i know. but from what i've heard on some of these boards and from some in the news it seems like folks have forgotten these simple things.
I think Obama has risen significantly in my estimation by his cool response here. In fact, I laud Bush for the same since he's been very restrained in his rhetoric. Cheney was much more brutish in his statements and that's the short of thing that gets you into trouble. McCain has been a loose cannon and it's frightening to think of him in charge during a crisis. He's not taking the step of reflecting on the larger implications of acting. He's simply trying to find a way to act. the stakes can be too high for precipitous actions.
August 11, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Russia is playing chess here, while we flounder around in the sandbox. By pushing into Georgia, Russia reminds every wannabee NATO and EU nation that when the chips are down, the West can't do much, and will choose their critical relationship (natural gas, Iran, etc.) with Russia over defending the peace and safety of the former Soviet states like Georgia and Ukraine.
At the UN, Khalizad practically was laughed at when he accused Russia of looking for "regime change" in Georgia. Imagine the Americans scolding someone for unilateral military action, and seeking regime change....What a disaster. Our power to infuence world affairs is at a very low ebb. Russia imposed a very harsh reality in Georgia over the past few days. The geopolitical repurcussions of this action are huge, and not good for the U.S., Democracy and peace in general.
August 11, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
yup.
August 11, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain says: "With the same aim, the U.S. should coordinate with our partners in Germany, France, and Britain, to seek an emergency meeting of the G-7 foreign ministers to discuss the current crisis."
Hmmm... what is this G-7 of which he speaks? I'm familiar with the G-8, so G-7 would seem to be G-8 minus 1. Did John McCain just unilaterally kick Russia out of the G-8? Can he do that? That seems rather... what's the word... oh yeah-- presumptuous, doesn't it?
August 11, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't he just mock Germany for the Obama visit, and wasn't France part of old Europe?
August 11, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
This just further shows why energy independence is a national security issue. Russia has so much power because of oil, if America developed new technologies and became largely energy independent and exported these new technologies, the value of oil would plummet both in $$$ and as a political tool.
August 11, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
the importance of the spice won't diminish for a long time.
August 11, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
first bush, now mccain.
nothing like seeing republicans who advcated the invasion of a sovereign country for no good reason condemning another country for following their example.
August 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many more statements are the McCain campaign going to put out on what they think the solution is in Georgia?
I'm getting sick of it. If Vladimir Putin seems content to ignore the White House and Europe for the time being then why the hell would he give a flying f**k what old man McCain thinks?
These are not statements directed at the Kremlin! They are statements directed for home consumption. This is evidently an attempt by the McCain campaign to soak up all the 'president-like' aura they can whilst Obama is on holiday and out of the lime-light.
Meanwhile they are just repeating what the White House, and in essence what the Obama campaign, have already said. It's about time they stopped being presumptuous and stopped pretending that John McCain calls the shots.
August 11, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a case where McCain Camp has two attacks ready for Obama, if he came rushing home and put out messages, they would have said "Why, you're not the President", and if he remained relatively silent in Hawaii its "Where was Obama? Is this the leader you want?"
August 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did he call Putin a cunt yet?
August 11, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't advise that. With his age and injuries I'm not sure he could defend himself against the brutal smackdown that would be forthcoming as a result. as a general rule you shouldn't call ex-KGB guys cunts...
August 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We must remind Russia's leaders that the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world require their respect for the values, stability and peace of that world."
That's rich, coming from a warmonger like McCain. If he believed that he would have opposed invading Iraq, opposed pushing Israel to invade Lebanon, and opposed pushing Ethiopia to invade Somalia.
The question I have is whether the bushies pushed Georgia to settle its problem with South Ossetia by force. I don't know that they did, but it fits the pattern.
August 11, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We must remind Russia's leaders that the benefits they enjoy from being part of the civilized world require their respect for the values, stability and peace of that world."
That's rich, coming from a warmonger like McCain. If he believed that he would have opposed invading Iraq, opposed pushing Israel to invade Lebanon, and opposed pushing Ethiopia to invade Somalia.
The question I have is whether the bushies pushed Georgia to settle its problem with South Ossetia by force. I don't know that they did, but it fits the pattern.
August 11, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink