Senator Obama had best be careful. Hillary's CLAIMED to support him all along only to backstab him from the sidelines.

What will he do if her delegates ALL decide to vote for her?

She will never ever get my vote again.

Greg, you don't have to keep after Dowd, no one takes her seriously.

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Once again; Obama has showed leadership and conviction to bring all factions together in a spirit of unity! How will the MSM spin this story? anyone care to guess?

The convention will be ALL ABOUT HILLARY -- leaving Obama in the back.

Shame on Hillary and her supporters for risking losing this election because of this crap!

Obama as always has shown grace under pressure and wisdom. I believe it will work out for him.

What next - the offer of VP?

Would she like a room next to his in the White House too?

My God. This woman and her supporters don't give a hoot about the Party and winning in NOV, it's all about HER and Bill's legacy and future.

Well - if he loses because of all these demands and helping McCain with his campaign slogans -- she will never get nominated for another job. I'm sure of it.

The media was going to focus on the Clintons and the angry supportors of Hilliary regardless of what was decided. Obama now can say he letting them have their say and their voices heard.

I find it hard to believe that there are undecideds out there that will think, "hmmmm, Obama seems the better candidate, but, gee, those Clinton supportors seem real angry. I guess I'll vote for McCain."

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear that behind the scenes the Clintons have gotten their delegates to come BACK over to her, then she convinced Obama that it was JUST for appearance sake to have her name on the rollcall --- only to find out that SHE'S won instead of him.

I hope he has something in WRITING from her.

the folks in the obama camp have allowed the convention to become all about the clintons, i hope they know what they're doing with this. the idiot talking heads will jump all over this to do what they always wanted, which is rehash the drama of the hill & bill show, it's just much easier now. there obviously had to be some compromise made, but increasingly i just wish somebody over there would tell the clintons to suck it up and get over themselves.

Moja31 -- I agree 100%

Sounds like a good arrangement. The Hillarites will hear her urge them to vote for Obama. Those who do are real Democrats who backed her for the right reasons and now are turning their loyalty and efforts to electing the Democratic nominee, Barack Obama. Those who don't are exposed as dittoheads who crashed the Democratic process to sow chaos, and who would have voted Republican in the GE no matter which Democrat won the primary.

Now we will get a head count and see just how legit her primary efforts really were.

I don't think it's all about the Clintons. Hillary deserved a key speaking role given the primary battle. Bill is a former President.

Mark Warner was given the keynote address, and unless there is some big swerve here, a Clinton isn't going to be the VP.

She's getting a floor vote. There could be some tense moments before the totals are read, I'll admit that, because I don't really trust her (but that could be on me). I have to imagine that the vast majority of super-delegates will vote for Obama just to ensure against any funny business. One has to hope that most of her pledged delegates heed her call and vote Obama as well. The more votes Hillary gets the worse it will look for Barack. And by making it largely ceremonial, I think a lot of Clinton pledged delegates will still vote for her to "send a message" not to Obama, but to Hillary.

How this works will depend on how emphatically and convincingly Hillary asks her delegates to vote for Barack Obama.

Nothing like telling the voters in America that the Democrats aren't even sure who they want to be President - so why should they be?

We've been told over and over again NOT TO WORRY about Hillary --- well, each time she's been able to cause just one more media storm after another.

They are NOT to be trusted...period.

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I voted for Bill twice -- I'm sorry I did now.

All this serves to do is make Hillary supporters even MORE hopeful and encouraged to keep fighting so that Obama loses in Nov, so that THEIR girl can run in 2012.

But, actually, what is the downside of being gracious to her? The only one I can see is the rather far-fetched prospect that she would try to carry out one of these 'sneak in and steal the election' scenarios which, even for the Clintons, is highly improbable and unlikely to work in any event.

Otherwise
-- it's as easy to spin it as the graciousness of someone fully and comfortably in power as it is a weak caving in,
-- his supporters are going to be for him whichever way this went,
-- he'll win over some of her supporters by being gracious,
-- if the ones he doesn't win over want to be ugly and make trouble then Clinton, not Obama, is going to be the one who looks weak,
-- the focus on women's issues will give ample opportunity to talk about McCain being anti-choice and the tenuousness of the Sup Ct. situation,
-- (believe it or not) there are a lot of older people (e.g., the ones most suspicious of Obama) who would really, truly resent it if the 'new kid' dismantled that most ridiculous but still cherished by some institution of the roll call of the States. Seriously. (If you don't understand, just wait until you are older and something you found wonderous and exciting as a youth is threatened) and
-- the extra drama and possibility, however remote, of a last minute coup, leaving blood and guts all over the convention floor, will pull in a bigger audience of independents and Republicans than would ordinarily watch ... maybe they'll actually listen to some of what's said and get their interest piqued.

So if you HAVE to have a roll call (and I suspect that was a given) then there are only two choices: one without her name in contention with the delegates free to make all the trouble and express all the anger they want, esp at such "censorship" -- or -- one where she has been given the full ceremony of being nominated, seconded, etc. and she herself is saying "give your votes to Obama" (so kicking up a fuss in that situation will just make their candidate look bad).

I think that, once again, the Obama folks have thought ahead and thought through the matter and come up with really the best solution -- in this case the one that is going to go over best with lukewarm Clinton supporters and get more Republicans and independents to watch.

NOW ..... I hope they just do as well picking the VP nominee!!

Obama/Biden '08 (not that I'm biased or anything)

This CAVE will only serve to give HER supporters even MORE reason to keep fighting against HIS campaign and help him to lose in Nov so that SHE can run again in 2012.

She and Bill are playing GOOD COP - BAD COP

Why can't you see that?

Coonsey is trolling the shit out of this thread.

It really doesn't matter if Hilary's name is put in roll call. The Democratic party can definitely win with Obama, but yes they can lose. But at this point, if the Democratic party are such a stupid bunch of whiners, handwringers, and chicken littles that they will replace Hilary with Obama, then they WILL LOSE, and they will have deserved to lose, so aside from theatrics, this is a non-story.

There have been a ton of stories lately about Barack not being able to push through--to deliver. There are people out there who recognize that Barack Obama is brilliant, with a level temperment, and a shrewd ability, a prescience, and a winning personality--a man who can rescue the United States from the perilous course she is on---but these people can't seem to get beyond the fact that Barack Obama is black. This was discussed on the Sunday News shows and nobody had an answer for it. In a moment of hysteria at the Convention, Hillary can give these people an out. Something can happen to overshadow Barack's being our next President. The World is in chaos right now, so nothing is sacred. God Bless Barack and Michelle.

Stop panicking about this is Hillary's convention, BS. One night will highlight Hillary and her historic run, after that it is Obama's party.

And like someone said above, it is Obama's speech that will be remembered by the end of the convention, it will be great and millions will have goosebumps...end of story, now let's win.

And no she will not be the VP, this is pretty clear if you work by process of elimination. Biden or Wesley Clark will be it...unless it is a complete unknown out of the blue.