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Hillary: "Were You In This Campaign Just For Me?"

A key challenge for Hillary was to persuade her supporters that the raw passions unleashed in them by her candidacy are about something larger than her, and are instead about the causes and goals and people she -- and the Democratic Party in general -- stand for.

Hillary took on this challenge head on, with this line addressed directly to her supporters:

I want you to ask yourselves: Were you in this campaign just for me? Or were you in it for that young Marine and others like him? Were you in it for that mom struggling with cancer while raising her kids? Were you in it for that boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage? Were you in it for all the people in this country who feel invisible?

Hillary also made this same point a bit earlier, telling her supporters that the same motives that drove them to support her will find fulfillment in backing Obama:

Those are the reasons I ran for President. Those are the reasons I support Barack Obama. And those are the reasons you should too.

One of the strongest lines came a bit later in the speech, when she bestowed on Obama one of her strongest sources of authority: Health care, which was a flash-point during the two during the primary.

I can't wait to watch Barack Obama sign a health care plan into law that covers every single American.

The line was delivered with total sincerity and conviction.

Finally, Hillary concluded by raising the stakes higher than anyone possibly could have hoped for, telling her supporters and Democrats that the fate of our country -- and the fate of all of our children -- all demand the election of Obama.

Nothing less than the fate of our nation and the future of our children hang in the balance.

I want you to think about your children and grandchildren come election day. And think about the choices your parents and grandparents made that had such a big impact on your life and on the life of our nation.

Hillary hit a grand slam by any measure. Will it put the "rift" talk to rest?

Late Update: It can't be overstated how badly Democrats, at this juncture in the campaign, needed an adrenaline boost like the one Hillary provided tonight. Her full-throated and unequivocal endorsement of Obama sets the stage for an equally powerful, or perhaps even more powerful, speech from Obama on Thursday that closes the unity circle among Dems and makes the compact complete.

It's all but certain that he'll deliver, and that moment will be a cathartic one for many Democrats -- even more cathartic than this one was.

Late Late Update: Looks like the wingnuts have scrounged up a way to keep up the "rift" talk after all...

Late Late Late Update: Up-is-downism at its best from Bill Kristol, who figures out a way to describe Hillary's speech as a "shockingly minimal" endorsement of Obama...



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That was an absolutely incredible speech. It was just incredible.

She really did burn the house down. It was just perfect.

I am not really replaying to you, Tena; but I couldn't get a comment block to open the normal way.

I just want to agree about the quality of Hillary's speech tonight. It was simply great and made me feel better about her and about the election to come.

I just went to Red State blog where someone posted how terrible it was and several other completely false statements and innuendo. VERY interesting.

McCain is toast, I HOPE!

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Oh, I completely agree. It was an outstanding speech, far surpassing my expectations and hopes. She put the country first. All Democrats owe her an incredible debt of gratitude for what she did tonight.

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McCain is toast, I HOPE!

Count on it!

Great speech. Worth a few bucks to help with her debt, even.

Frankly I think she needs to swallow that debt and keep it moving. The focus should be on fundraising for Obama and not her finances.

Nevertheless I went to her site and donated the minimum of $10 after that heartfelt speech.

http://hillaryclinton.com/

I should say the minimum out of the preselected amounts. You can donate less but I went for $10.

She definitely delivered.

I think 'grand slam' is taking things a little far, don't you? Do you have lotion and a box of tissues with you, Greg?

Ewwwwwww.

troll jizz^^^^^^^^^^^

that is absolutely disgusting. Your mother would be ashamed


The Illegal Organization Running Ads Against Obama

More than likely. Sorry, that was crass. I guess I just didn't find it as great as everybody else.

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When was the last time (or the first) Bush made an inspiring speech? You can even name a McCain speech to be fair.

By hitting hard on McCain and for Obama, she's impressing a lot of Obama Dems who had lost faith in her.
Definitely a grand slam.
who said it first?
Greg or Keith Olbermann?

Keith

I think? Hell, I don't know.

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Keith was obviously very impressed. His first words (as I recall) were, "She couldn't have done it any better," and he repeated that several times.

Holy Crap!

Way to go Hillary!

Awesome. Just awesome. Anyone who tries to take it down is a goddamn lunatic.

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I eagerly await the McCain camp to tell us that she didn't really mean it.

She did exactly what she needed to do and delivered it with passion and convition. Hopefully this'll go a long way with her supporters. I also really enjoyed the feminist angle that she added to the convention...very nice.

They already have ... but they were beat to it by Fox News.

Hillary:

In the quiet words of The Who:

You are forgiven, forgiven, forgiven!

You are forgiven!

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I really had forgiven her a long time ago, but I have to say that I admire her about 20 times more than I did before that speech.

It was stunning - just stunning.

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Very powerful speech.

I take back all the bad things I said about Hillary. She really redeemed herself tonight. Slam dunk!

I actually like my Junior Senator now. Wow.

Anybody know where I can get a video of Schweitzer? Freaking PBS didn't show him.

The best line of the night

No way. No how. No McCain.

No way. No how. No McCain!

Yep, that was great. So was the Sisterhood of the Pantsuit line.

I hate to be so focused here as to seem like a party-pooper, but how do those lines help the ticket? The pantsuit line is about her. The McCain line reminds us that she said his experience was more impressive than Obama's.

Those ads with her saying so are running every day, and she said nothing directly to contradict them.

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NO WAY! NO HOW! NO McCAIN!

I jumped up and wrote that down as soon as she said it. That's my next sign for the next street demonstration.

Hillary totally redeemed herself with that speech. And Bill Clinton's emotional reaction to it, and his obvious pride in Hillary redeemed him for me. Just as Obama's speech 4 years ago was the turning point in his political career, this will be the turning point in Hillary's career. I see her as the next leader in the Senate, someone able to move all of us to support the painful sacrifices we will need to make over the next 8 years in order to recover from the last 8 years.

Today I am utterly proud to be a Democrat.

I am watching CNN and Blitzer is quiet. Then Campbell Brown chimes in by saying Hillary didnt endorse BO as a strong commander n chief and in her opinion, Hillary didnt fully endorse BO. Its dumb analysis like that as to why her ratings is so low.

Goddamn I hate the fucking media. They're the biggest reason there's been all this so-called "rift."

Suppose I shouldn't be surprised there are still going to be plenty of people who don't want it to end.

That you were watching CNN is troubling. They are rapidly approaching Fox noise territory.

Don't worry about Blitzer and some of those other CNN idiots. CNN's 'decent' pundits saw the speech as the perfection that it was: both John King and Anderson Cooper were very impressed. I'm interested to know what Jack Cafferty thinks too.

Wow. A superb speech that hit all the right notes. Especially proud of the way she went after McCain and directly confronted any hold out supporters. I have renewed respect for Hillary after tonight.

Hillary is my new hero! After this, if there are still people some of her supporters who can't turn then we'll know what the real reason is for hating Obama : are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Rock on Hillary, all is forgiven, and I want you on our team!

Hell YES! THATS what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary was powerful tonight.

If there are anymore undecided or pro-McCain PUMA's left after hearing Hillary's speech tonight, then they've always been closet-republicans and shame on them.

Hillary, as I said after your concession speech... Thank you.

If anyone, anywhere had their doubts about her support for Obama and her desire to see him in the White House, those doubts couldn't possibly exist anymore.

It was a wonderful speech, and despite how amazing Schweitzer was, Hillary stole the night.

Schweitzer was terrific- the stealth keynote.

Yes it was, josephcast. He hit the nail on the head (and really did overshadow Warner) and the Obama campaign should make use of him. Nobody should undersetimate the importance of all the crap the Republicans are putting out about offshore drilling and bringing down the price of gas. Someone like Schweitzer would be invaluable in clarifying the issues.

They're still going to push the Clinton vs Obama story. Now it's going to be either "Did the Dem's make the wrong choice" or "Clinton vs Biden - Did Obama make the right choice"

They always need their angle to exploit to fill the 24 hour news cycle.

She nailed it. Hillary found her voice during the campaign when she was all but eliminated and stopped worrying about push polling and image consultants. She could be the Lioness of the Senate now that she (hopefully - No way, no how, no McCain) doesn't have to worry about how a vote will look in a future presidential campaign, but vote for what she feels is right.

Hillary the Hammer

Media suckered again and Bill will not disappoint either

Yeah, I bet Bill will. An article I read today referenced Bill saying something about some "surprises" at the convention...

There is a rumor that Bill is going to pass the torch to Obama tomorrow. Maybe that is the surprise.

If Bill symbolically did that, and Obama returns the favor Thursday, this compact will be set in stone and there will be NO WAY McCain wins this election. Time to take the white house for the freedoms of America.

Clarification- I meant "Bill will NOT disappoint"...

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Wow. Hillary just delivered the keynote of the convention. This was the tone-setter; forget Mark Warner because everyone else in the country has. She told her supporters in no uncertain terms that using her as an excuse to not vote for Obama was unacceptable. UnDemocatic. The speech placed party, ideology and national interests abover her own grievances. All may not be forgiven, but for the time being it is most certainly forgotten.

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From the pointed criticisms of McCain and the tributes to Bill Gwatney and Stephanie Tubbs Jones to the unequivocal statements of support for Obama and especially the direct appeal to her supporters, it just couldn't have been a better speech.

Thank you, Senator Clinton.

She gave the speech of her life. What an amazing speech. I'm astonished, and so very happy. She was so great...really good stuff, all around. A really great speech and a really great delivery.

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Very powerful. However, my friend here in Italy where we watched the second day of the convention (until 5:30 a.m.), pointed out that it would have been more powerful still if Hillary had specifically released her delegates to vote for Obama in the vote tomorrow. I wonder if Hillary would have been capable of that. I do wish she had gone the extra step.

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I did read yesterday that Clinton had released her delegates to vote for Obama. You can Google "Clinton releases delegates" and get lots of hits dated August 24. In some states, the delegates are legally bound to vote for Clinton on the first (and only) ballot, no matter what Clinton says.

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Thanks.

A classy lady giving a classy speech.

But what's with the dozens of close-ups of Mr. Bill? From the looks of his nose, I think he's had a few tonight. Picking up where Ted Kennedy left off, Bubba?

The camera-feed for all the networks was controlled by Fox.

Need I say more?

"Definitely a grand slam.
who said it first?
Greg or Keith Olbermann?"

Olbermann

I can't wait to hear the PUMAs spinning their explanations after this. She just made them eat all of their lame-ass excuses.

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Most definitely a grand slam.

I wasn't a huge Hillary fan before the primary and I despised her by the time the primary ended. I appreciate what she did tonight.

But I will say this...if she hammers John McCain in the general with half the ferocity she hammered Barack Obama in the primary, I feel pretty good about our chances.

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That is funny, I wasn't a Hillary fan before the primaries, because she had this air of entitlement. As things wore on I warmed to her, not enough to support her but she earned my respect. Tonight she was great.

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She rocked. That puts the end to the PUMA movement. What are they going to say?

Well, let's just elect Hillary as the God of the Democrats, shall we?

As someone said above, she did not release her delegates to vote for Obama. She did not refute her inexperience claim that McCain is running in a damned ad. She did not say she changed her mind or thought Obama had really grown in the campaign and now was experienced enough for our former First Lady.

You have to have been an adult when the Clintons went to WDC to know how they squeeze meaning in every word and where omissions are sometimes very important.

Hillary delivered enough to get rid of the PUMAS. But her real belief is that Obama will lose in November. The Clintons are preserving their power in the party for 2012. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind about this.


My god, some people won't be happy unless she gets OBAMA inked on her forehead. She did well.

BS. Obama will win and the Clinton stranglehold on the party will be gone. There is no doubt in my mind on this.

I'm sorrowful about it, but I agree with you. And we are clearly in the minority here.

Almost all of it is relief that Hillary at least did the minimum needed. You had to have analyzed the 1990s when they were occurring to understand one hundredth of the Clintons and how they parse words and strategize. Shrug. Hillary's speech will be enough.

Not to mention she wore orange, as in Florida Oranges!

A not so veiled reference to the Florida primary!

LMAO!

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Orange on a blue background -- the colors of New York state.  Just ask any Mets fan :-)

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For my thinking No way. No how. No McCain. is much better than a point-by-point retraction of all the bad things Clinton said about Obama, and which McCain is trying to use for the moment. Those three sentences show up in a big font on both the CNN and USA Today web sites right now. Also, from a polemical viewpoint, retracting something one said in the past tends to undercut the credibility of what one is trying to say at present.

And Clinton did release her pledged delegates on Sunday, in advance of this speech.

Look, Hillary and Bill think strategically and their viewpoint is in 2012 when they look back and can say, privately with leaks, that "of course, poor Barack didn't have enough experience but he did win the primary--barely and with subterfuge."

Hillary did enough to provide cover--and that will be enough to corral in the PUMA group. I state again that Hillary, if she believed Barack would win the election, would have covered her tracks much more thoroughly.

Hillary has gone above and beyond the call of duty.

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So your own pseudo-theory validates your own pseudo-theory. She's the kind of person who would do such a thing, which you can tell because she's the kind of person who would do such a thing. Victory!

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I think it's possible to have it both ways here.

Hillary missed her chance to be Pres (this time) .... and I don't see how that can sit well with her or anyone.

But her ill-advised negative end-game was required because of bad campaign management and bad judgemnt.

Nevertheless, you still have to take her at her word that if it's going to be Obama then everyone get behind him.

Her word is that there is too much at stake to allow McCain and the Neocons of the Apocalypse to continue continue their assault on Democracy.


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I am going on the record before all of you:

I was wrong. I freely admit I was wrong. Clinton did the right thing. Clinton did the right thing swimmimgly.

Respectfully & sincerely,
Richard Lawrence Adlof

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That was great.

PUMA's are saying - see how brilliant she was? What's four years of McCain if it means we get Hillary in 2012.

Everybody likes Hillary now, so she is off the hook if Obama loses. Which means she'd win in 2012...

She's not off the hook and she definitely would NOT win in 2012. This is just more of the Clintons fooling themselves.

Are you always this negative ? ... I guess so, going by your posts here always concern trolling.

Tonight was a big night for dems and Hillary played a key role in it. Accept it.

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Yes and yes.

I took it as Jonze reporting what he is seeing on PUMA sites.

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Those who persist in hating on Hillary are as helpful as the PUMAs.

Oh for God's sake. Anyone who has a different interpretation of Hillary's actions hates her? Do a bit of political analysis and not this puppy love junk.

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Anyone who has a different interpretation of Hillary's actions hates her?
I don't know where you read that, but it certainly wasn't in my comment.

The Obama/Hillary battle is over. Give it up, cube. Your persistent hatred of Hillary makes you no better than the PUMAs just like dude said.

It's time to release your bitterness. It's the only way the party can unite for the challenges ahead.

Uh huh, I have to "heal" apparently. Look, I don't hate Hillary or Bill. I just don't want either of them in a position of power within the party.

Consider that hatred if you want. It won't matter since I fully expect Barack to win and he will definitely take the reins of party power into his own hands.

Hillary will clearly be in a position of power from here on out. Her husband maybe not so much. She can stand on her own two and that was partially reflected in tonight's speech.

She is a good woman who, based on her voting record, promotes progressive values and wants to see a Barack Obama presidency. There is nothing wrong with Hillary Clinton having power.

See below. Tena doesn't believe Hillary has any power in the party now.

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Dude - he already did take the reins of power in his hands. Where were you when Barrack won the nomination? The next day he moved his people into party headquarters and basically, took over.

You can quit the fuck worrying about the DLC, ok? It's Obama time and you can just quit all the bristling over nuttin' - it's a hell of a good night to be a Democrat. Enjoy it. It won't last.

See above, Tena, for someone who believes Hillary is a good woman and deserves that power.

I don't gush over Hillary or over Bill or even over Obama. I've seen the impact of the way the Clintons wield power down in the local trenches and it hasn't been pretty. Obama's strategies are revitalizing the party at the local level.

You're the only one who mentioned the DLC, Tena, so that's your problem and not mine.

she did very well, and sounded really pumped up. if i have one criticism it's that as an obama supporter i wish she'd vouch a little bit for barack obama the person, his character and abilities. so many of her holdouts have a very visceral hatred of sen. obama, they're bitter about the primary and they think he's some horribly unqualified guy that cheated & stole it from her, there was nothing countering that bogeyman image of obama. this was the biggest audience she's going to have to make that case, and it seemed to still be on the level of support the democrat. maybe her supporters weren't ready to hear that kind of pitch yet, but i feel like that's still going to be needed at some point.

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Enough with the "why didn't she talk about how awesome Obama is"? Nonsense. That's all last night was, and it was a snoozefest. The general message of Obama's campaign commericals this summer have been "Look at me. I'm Obama, I'm ubiquitously awesome". It's been a failure.

It's time to roll up our sleeves to FIGHT, not to pat ourselves on the back.

did you actually read the post before you responded? nobody believes the whole convention has to be talking about how great obama is. hillary did a great job tonight but there is a difference between endorsing him as the party's candidate and him as more than just the democrat in the race, both are important to winning in nov. so many of the holdouts that the media loves to find & focus on, have an actual hatred for obama as a person because they think he robbed hillary of something, and they'll continue to rant about it to any pundit that will listen. that narrative will continue to crowd out real issues and contrasts with mccain because that's what the MSM media has picked as their storyline. vouching for obama as a colleague; his character and abilities is a necessary part of nipping that dutifully crafted talking head narrative in the bud, and for a lot of these people it probably has to come from hillary at some point.
but yeah feel free to read the above and previous post as simplistic harping about a supposed lack of sufficient of obama fawning on hillary's part.

It's a legitimate point you're making here, Moja, particularly as so many - not just in the Senate, but in the MSM - are so ready to vouch for what a stand up guy McCain is. Including those in our own Democratic Party.

Agreed CarolBIG...very astute commentary the speech by HRC endorsed but did not embrace Obama.
That said, it was a helluva endorsement.

I have yet to meet a real live bitter PUMA democrat...I see people who say that's what they are online, but then digging a little deeper they often turn out to be republican trolls.

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Maybe Bill will have to hit cleanup and give more on Obama the person.

Of course Blowhard Buchanan is sharing his two worthless pennies (paraphrased):

"The big question is, why didn't Barack Obama put her on the ticket? Biden will have to come out strong tomorrow night to prove himself a better running mate" blah blah blah.

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I've muted the sound since the talking heads started, although I've caught enough of Matthews and Olbermann to think that Matthews is having entirely too much fun - what's up with his hair? Is it always so - casual?

The answer why he didn't: Jill ain't no Bill.

As I have noted on the cafe, her entire campaign leading up to tonight was a feint, intended to ensure her election in 2016. All you Obamanauts who accused her of seeking to sabotage his chances to pave the way for her election in 2012 have been fooled again. After two successful Obama terms, her job will be that much easier. She did it all for herself, of course. It's part of the Clinton Master Plan for World Domination we've heard so much about.

After two terms of an Obama administration, one that Hillary will have hopefully worked her heart out to ensure would happen, I'll be one of her biggest supporters in 2016 if she decides to run.

Shock of shocks!

Chelsea will be old enough to be on the ballot in 2016. Next, Chelsea moves to a swing state, then in 2016, the Clinton-Clinton ticket.

...the Clinton Master Plan for World Domination

Sadly, the Supreme Court squashed the first attempt:

"The American people have spoken," Clinton said. "By failing to generate a 51 percent majority for either candidate, they have shown their inability to muster the drive to collective action. The time has come for a new America, a strong Americlintonian Empire, capable of providing the indecisive electorate with direction through one man's sheer force of will."Clinton Declares Self President for Life

Good link.

As for the Clinton/Clinton ticket in 2016, it could face some competition from Michelle Obama, who proved her own political mettle the other night, though she might not be "ready to lead" by then, requiring a bit more seasoning as, say, the Senator of ____________ [insert state here].

"Anybody know where I can get a video of Schweitzer?"

I saw it on C-Span...maybe they have it on their website? It was a pretty good speech. Started out slow, but really built.

Campbell Brown is married to Dan Senor, a former Bush flack. But sure, have her on to tell us about Hillary. Gotta love the media.

Git DOWN wicho bad self, girl! We can only hope Bubba can rise to such levels of menschheit.

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What a much needed shot in the arm for this convention, this party and this campaign. Let's face it ... we've been sleepwalking for weeks.

I'm an Obama volunteer, supporter and financial donator from the primary, but the bottomline is Hillary is an incredible asset to this party. Let's not kid ourselves here ... This is going to be another 51-49 election, and Obama is not going to cakewalk his way to the Oval Office just on his "awesomeness" like some of my more naive brethren believe. We're going to need every vote, and Hillary has 18 million of them. We're going to need grit and determination, and Hillary has it in spades. And if Obama wins the office, he's going to need a leader in the Senate, and Hillary has earned the right with her 18 million votes to be the head honcho.

I'm off to her website to see if she's still accepting donations to pare down her campaign debt.

Hillary does NOT control 18 million votes, you know. Believe the Clinton hype if you must but let's identify it as hype.

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She controls enough votes to swing a 51-49 election, and if you don't believe Obama needs her and her supporters you've drank too much of the Kool Aid.

Jesus fucking Christ, give the "kool-aid" talk a rest already.

Jackass -- you have some of Clinton's harshest critics here gushing orgasmically about her speech, and you have the gall to come in with that stale bullshit? That's not how we're going to win this election, and I suspect you know this,

I'm with you guys, but he's just responding to someone else who WON'T LET GO.

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Hey Bigger Jackass, if you'll read my original post, I'm a long time Obama volunteer. I'm sick and tired of some of the other Obama volunteers thinking Obama just has to 'be the smartest guy in the room" and we got the nomination wrapped up in a landslide. We're going to need each every Hillary vote, and people who continue to act cantankerous towards Hillary and her supporters are just sabotaging the election. The arrogance that they weren't even needed after the primary was astonishing.

I volunteer door to door. I campaign for Obama in people's living rooms, not just in the echo chamber of liberal blog messageboards. I talk to people about their doubts and misgivings about Obama. One of the most common complaints I hear is that he's just a trendy fad for overly sensative, insecure young people. Thanks for perpetuating the stereotype.

You're fulfilling a few stereotypes of your own here, IR. Cube has an opposing opinion. This blog can tolerate that. When the Kool Aid term gets thrown out there, it tends to set off the troll alert.

Yep.

I am going to join you. Hillary deserves it.

Ok, Blitzer just made a good point. Hurricane Gusto will be near or on land by next week Monday. If the storm is a big one, which most think it will be, that will impact the Rep convention coverage and also serve to remind people of Katrina as next week, ironically, will be the 3rd anniversary of that storm.

Wouldn't that be something! The party that prayed for rainfall on BO night, may get a hurricane to hit land on their convention night. And they say God doesnt have a sense of humor.

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Maybe God is a democrat after all.

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You know, I really do believe that the Little Baby Jesus is a Democrat. ;)

And I also think that the voudoun priestesses of NOLA have had their way with the Repugs.

;)

Cheney sneer makes the baby Jesus cry.

And the NFL regular season starts that week also (I think on McCain's speech night).

Gotta love it.

that is good news for mccain. it must have been planned. My friends, his speech is not going to be very good.

Remember Jon Stewart's words:

"Why God loves Barack Obama?"

...and speaking of Stewart, look how they'll welcome those to go to the GOP convention:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thezeppelin/2784188452/

No way. No how. No McCain. Obama-Biden'08.

It's Gustav, not Gusto. That's some Italian restaurant somewhere.

My hopes and prayers are for NOLA. They don't deserve to suffer the same tragedy twice.

McCain: Not a maverick, a sidekick!

Blitzer just made a good point.

I'd just like to point out that this also can only be attributed to an act of God.

I've always thought Hillary and Obama would (and probably do) get along just fine. Bill is, has been, and always will be, the problem.

Here's my fondest hope - Bill will have the honor and decency not to piss all over his wife's gracious performance, and rise to the occasion tomorrow for Obama. He won't mean it (I believe Hillary did), but he can do it for her.

Hillary Clinton finished the restoration of her status within the party tonight. If there was any self-interest component, that was it (not 2012). You probably saw her become the next Senate Majority Leader tonight (if she wants it).

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I don't think Bill has to insincerely kiss Obama's ass and be buddy/buddy with him. Bill needs to get up there and do what he's done his entire career ... deftly and swiftly disassemble the Republican Noise Machine, in his typical effortless mannor. Frankly, he could give Obama a few pointers on it.

Sorry to be contrarian, but Michelle was better, and, for that matter, Hillary's concession speech in June was also better. Too much ME ME ME here. Obama's name may have been mentioned 7 or 8 times. I agree with cube3u above: I saw nothing here to indicate she's ready for 8 years of an Obama Administration. And the cult-of-personality video prelude, with the cool rock-n-roll music, reinforced the notion that she's too big to stay away.

To Hillary: Muaaaah!

To the Taking Hairdos: "Buyer's remorse?" Are you fucking kidding me? ROFLMAO! You were convinced that this speech was a Grave Problem for Obama because there was no way she would do what it turns out she did, so now that you've been proven completely, asshattedly wrong, you . . . discover that this outstanding speech presents a Grave Problem for Obama.

To the Republican Asshat pretend journalists: Alex, Bloody Bill? Just give it up. Your just embarassing yourselves.

What I love about these convention speeches (the headliners, at least) is that millions of people actually watch the speech itself. If the moronic and/or biased analysis that follows is completely detached from the reality of what people saw, many (though definitely not all) will register that disconnect.

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Of course, it's in the Repugs' best interest to have the Democrats divided, so they will insist that we are.


BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHahahaha


And Caracella - I think Michelle Obama's speech was stunning, too. It was a totally different kind of speech - but I talked to one person tonight who was completely sold by Michelle's speech and the girls coming up and telling their father they love him.

They were both awesome speeches - they were very different and I don't think they are comparable because they were so different.

Well Tena, perhaps I'm being a nervous nellie with the dropping poll-numbers, and am therefore seeing everything through paranoia sunglasses.

It's probably not Hillary I'm really grousing about. I think it's the media who wants a close race for ratings, and the fact that the Democrats do seem to be, if not divided, at least fractured in an 80-20 pie. I guess resistance to Obama just mystifies me.

Incidentally, all the media, even people like left-leaning Rachel Maddow, seem to want the Democrats to indulge in one screaming partisan rant after another on the stage. If someone could explain to me how that would win an election for the Dems, I'd be happy to hear.

The sad truth is, this convention needs to humanize Obama: Monday night with Michelle and the kids went some way towards doing that. Having every speech be a mouth-frothing screed against McCain will not accomplish this. Some, yes -- but not all. The main goal is making Obama seem like a regular guy. And of course, next week the Reps will try to paint him as an arugula-eating terrorist.

Maybe I need to turn off the TV for awhile . . .

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Wait a minute - how did our exchange go from whether or not one could say Michelle's speech was better than Hillary's or vice versa, to your thinking I was attacking you for grousing?

I'm confused. I was just agreeing with you about how great a speech Michelle Obama gave and then opining that her and Hillary's speeches were so different I thought comparing them was like comparing apples to oranges.

Oh I'm sorry, Tena -- I was just expanding the discussion a bit, not arguing a point. Thinking out loud as I type. Probably a bad habit on a blog. :)

Chalk it up to bourbon?

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Naw - that's fine. I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something - you can chalk that up to chronic.


The media is already saying that Bill Clinton will not attend Obama's speech...So I am sure that they will still stir things up...

It was a great speech, and she did delivered...

There are so many good lines, and the reference to Michele Obama was wonderful...

So far 3 great speeches (Teddy, Michele and Senator Clinton). I wonder what Barack will come up with...

...don't forget Joe Biden.

Absolutely smashing success of a speech. It's clear that Hillary, unlike Prez Clinton, understands that her legacy still remains to be written. I could not have asked for more from her.

To any of my fellow Obama supporters still complaining -- get over it.

And to any Hillary supporters still unwilling to climb aboard -- grow up.

Bill Kristol can go fuck himself.

Sadly, he probably can't.

That is his problem, he cannot stop.

I'm sure he could find a way to roll over on himself. He looks like a fucking Weeble.

Weebles wobble but they don't reach around?

They also apparently never shut the fuck up. :)

Kristol reminds me of a band hanger-on, a guy who desperately wants to be a rockstar but just doesn't have the talent and never will. Billy desperately wants to be taken seriously as a pundit but he just ain't got the chops for it. It's really obvious every time he goes on the Daily Show. Jon Stewart just owns him and Kristol knows it.

The other thing that's really interesting about him is that his tenor is always so measured. He's the biggest, dumbest asshole in every room but he just sounds so reasonable. I mean, imagine if he yelled all that stuff with the hand gestures like Buchanan. He'd just be shockingly over-the-top. Oh wait -- he'd just be Hannity.

What Kristol meant is that he have shockingly minimal access to Obama, and Juan Williams is no help. Yes, he would think this way!

will have

That might pay better than his current gig.

I lasted about five seconds into his response but I got the general idea. He either misses the point or he is being disingenuous. It wasn't about her and it wasn't really about Obama as a single person; I read her as making the case for a Democratic future, which is far more powerful than a single person. She presented Obama as a kind of vessel for that future -- a perfect, antidote, IMHO, to those McCain ads that go after Obama for being a celebrity. The Obama campaign would do well to use some of her speech for its own ads. McCain says it's all about charismatic authority (and our being deluded by it); Clinton makes the case for a collective future that transcends a single person.

I'm calling this a Rainmaker. I just donated my first $25 to Hillary to show my appreciation for tonight's demonstration of unity, and to encourage her to keep this up until November.

Anybody with me?

Funny, I had exactly the same thought. But the idea that even ten cents might make its way to Mark Penn is unbearable.

I'm hoping the little guys get paid first and Penn gets paid last. Considering what a hot mess he made he should be willing to take 5 cents on the dollar.

Yes. She deserves our ponying up for her after tonight. She did better for Obama tonight, I tinnk, than she ever did for herself. And the speech didn't really come alive (first half was less effective) until she did begin working the house for Obama.

Never have seen her speak so effectively before. Just never.

From an Obama supporter, this was an AWESOME speech. It will have a positive effect for Obama as Hillary will remind him come next year and the health care debate and she will have every right to remind him. I also think we will get more of the same tomorrow night from President Clinton. Watching him tonight, he seemed clearly into the upcoming campaign, proud of Hillary and enjoying her speech, but also getting into Gov. Schweitzer's speech. I think the President and First Lady may be getting that an Obama presidency could actually be good for his legacy. It also appeared as she came on stage that he twice mouthed I love you, Hillary. It was good to feel good about the President and Hillary again.

Great stuff. We've got all the energy and drama. The Republicans have McCain and Romney.

I bet we got a huge audience tonight.

I am surprised that Milbank has the courage to write complete sentences. He needs to put his laptop down until he grows a pair.

Don't fall for their bullshit.

The MSM wants to keep us divided. They love the storyline.

Hillary delivered a slam dunk. Wednesday her husband will do the same along with Joe Biden and on Thursday Barack Obama will wrap it all up with a nice blue bow on top.

Milbank joins the ranks of Kristol. What the hell happened to this guy?

That's the candidate I've always known and supported this entire campaign. I'm proud to be carrying on the fight to elect President Obama in November.

PS I am bookmarking this thread for future reference :o)

Obama/Biden 2008 & 2012 HRC/Schweitzer 2016

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Schweitzer was pretty freakin' great tonight, wasn't he? I didn't know much about the guy before tonight, but he really got the crowd fired up.

Hillary was brilliant. If she decides to run again, she's a shoe-in.

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We tangled a lot early this year, but I am grateful for the sentiment you just expressed and glad we are fighting the same fight on the same side now.

Schweitzer was phenomenal. I was wondering whether his folksy charm would have wide appeal as a VP candidate, but he had a NY gal like me reconsidering bringing the bolo tie back. He makes it clear just how big the democratic tent is. Loved him.

Hillary's amazing. She showed just how much love she has for the Democratic party tonight. It's good to see the democratic party (united) showing the love in return. So thanks :) (and bookmarked as a reminder should you guys forget in a few days :) )

So happy, you're happy, finally.

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Hillary's speech was great, and very supportive of Obama. Bill's speech tomorrow will be too. Anyone who expected anything different has watching too much cable news.

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Hillary's speech was great, and very supportive of Obama. Bill's speech tomorrow will be too. Anyone who expected anything different has been watching too much cable news.

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An amazing speech. Easily the best speech I've ever seen her give. She did everything she needed to do and more.

I got the sense that she was almost relieved to give this speech. I wonder if this "catharsis" she's been talking about lately wasn't more about her than about her supporters. Tonight seemed like a catharsis for Hillary. Did Bill want Hillary to be president more than Hillary wanted Hillary to be president? Just a thought...

Interesting thought. A Clinton presidency would have been dominated by Bill - that's for sure. Hillary's senate career on the other hand is really all her, there is not so much of the Bill shadow looming.

With Biden and Obama gone - and Lieberman with his foot on a banana-peel, she's sitting pretty in the senate. Maybe she's liking the view?

I thought it was magnificent.

Hillary's speech was excellent. She is gifted at speech giving. I admit to being a little nervous about what she would say, but she came through with flying colors.

I know I'm new here, but what is up with the obsession with right wing TV? I have never watched Fox and never will. I don't know anyone who does. Why does the blogosphere give so much attention to them? They have fake wrestling on TV as well, but not many actually watch it. You guys seem to confirm their importance by constantly quoting them and linking to video. Who gives a rip what Faux Snooz says or does?

(nice north-by-northwest handle, by the way)

The sad fact is that Fox is the dominant ratings winner. Which means, they shape the majority of opinion. Which means we need to peek in, clothespins over our noses, to see what the hell we're up against, and formulate push-back.

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Because Fox is important. They have a huge influence on American life and you need to know what they're saying. Smug, complacent ignorance is comfortable and happy, but knowing thy enemy is the only way to defeat thy enemy.

Unfortunately, Fox Noise has many viewers. Additionally, those same "pundits" on Fox Noise spread their filth via blogs and news columns :(

No, I think Roger's right on this. First of all, a plurality is not a majority. Fox viewers are a (large) minority.

Secondly, the people who watch Fox are over 80% Republican, IIRC. We're never reaching them. We can forget about them, for all intents and purposes.

CNN is worth our outrage. Fox really isn't.

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I could not agree with you more.

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Don't ask me, darlin - I've always wondered that myself.

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Wonderful speech. Amazing. Masterful. Moving.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was on point tonight to say the least. If her energizing and inspiring speech doesn't sway her supporters to unite as one party behind Barack Obama nothing will.

She so graciously thanked the thousands upon thousands of people who supported her calling some of them the "Sisterhood of the Traveling Pansuits"; acknowledging how far we've come as a country in the 88 years since the 19th amendment was passed giving women in this country the right to vote. She drove that point home by saying her mother was born before women were granted the right to vote yet her daughter, Chelsea was able TO VOTE for her MOTHER as President of the United States!

The crowd went wild when Hillary spoke of the similarities between McCain and Bush saying that the two of them being in the Twin Cities together next week was pretty par for the course since they're looking more and more like twins everyday.

It was relatively late in her speech that she drove home how much this election isn't about her, Obama, McCain or any one person. It's about us as a nation. The questions (which was aimed at her diehard supporters) was "Were you in the campaign for me?" Or was it for the young marine caring for his family, the parents that worked day and night, the millions of Americans with no healthcare. "These among many others were the reasons I ran for President and the same reasons I support Senator Obama. We're on the same team" the Senator said.

In closing Senator Clinton urged the Democratic Party to "KEEP GOING". Reciting words spoken by the great abolitionist Harriet Tubman - If you hear the dogs, keep going! If you see the torches, keep going! If you hear the shouts, keep going! IF YOU WANT TO TASTE FREEDOM,.....KEEP GOING!!!!

WTF?!! Did Penn and Wolfson have this woman locked in a basement somewhere during the primaries while the sent out an imposter? If her campaign looked more like this I'da had a much tougher time makin my choice. Thank You Senator Clinton,Thank You.

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I think Penn, Wolfson and the Big Dog DID have her locked away. Tonight, I got the impression that Hillary (sans her "minders") is a genuine, compassionate Democrat. I have never gotten that impression before. I've always thought of her as a complete phony. I'm starting to believe she was just a willing participant and that the complete phonies were using her from behind the screen.

Not being the candidate anymore is freeing. Ironic, isn't it?

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I've always thought that all politicians should run as if they're quitting politics forever after their next term in office. We'd get much better government. The biggest problem with American politics is that some make it a career. After the election, we should hang the loser and throw the winner in jail. I believe that would lead to much better government over the long run.

I think what we saw tonight was Hillary Clinton vs. Mrs. Bill Clinton. Hillary has been riding on Bill's coattails professionally since she moved to Little Rock! She was stripped and caged and chastened for being Hillary RODHAM Clinton and over the years she learned how to stand behind her man. She understood Bill's politically brillance and she relied on it and stood on his status.

What happened during the campaign is that she deferred to Penn and Bill's judgment politically as she herself had no successfully track record as a politician. Her stay in the Senate was a holding pattern and she dutifully acted as she was told to by Bill. This was not her campaign it was a campaign designed for her as 'Bill's wife'

What we saw tonight was Hillary standing on her own finally, having been forged by fire. Even in the video Bill was referred to as "Hillary's husband'

That is taking ownership of who and what SHE is!!

Her speech tonight was a huge endorsement of Obama however it was not embracing of Obama, his character or leadership.

That said, it was an rousing endorsement..she did what she needed to do. She can easily stand behind him based on their joint political platform being based on core Democratic values. However, she has not embraced who and what he is as a man, leader and politician.

Overall, good job Hillary. She is finally her own person. Moving forward politically on her own merit vs. Bill's.

I got the same impression. She had powerful populist mojo working tonight that I didn't see in the "Clouds will part" type stuff during the primary. Before I could always see the seams in her rhetoric; this statement was to counter that weakness and so on. Tonight had a great, authentic, heartfelt quality the she lacked on the trail. Maybe she needed the rest?

Well - I think she's too strong a woman really to be too pushed around. But I think most candidates have listened too much beyond their own council, when it comes to being 'fully who you are'....

She was radiant though and yes, it was like she had been released at some level. I think for her it was a history making speech in the same way Obama DNC 04 was... In was an unmediated positive impression.

Great speech but, but, but...

She didn't rend her clothes and cut her hair.

Sigh.

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I heard Bill Nichols, managing editor of Politico.com, tell all DC news radio WTOP that Hillary gave only a "perfunctory" performance -- a "bare minimum of support for Obama." She "did what she had to do, but she barely did what she had to do." He said Hillary spoke primarily to her supporters, and the Obama campaign probably was okay with this speech, but it wasn't the "unifying moment they'd hoped it would be."

He said the Obama campaign was "realistic" about this speech and that she "did do enough that they'll be able to move on from this."

Listen here:
http://wtop.com/emedia/130431.mp3

The media is trying to stir it up again...

I think the Politico jerk and Kristol are overstating the point, but they just might have a point.

As I said upthread, I do think this speech was a little too much about her and not enough about Obama. The "me" stuff was appropriate in her concession speech in June, but I didn't need to hear about the kid in the Marine T-shirt again tonight.

All of which is not to say the speech didn't have some fine moments, but they were just a wee bit too far and few in-between. The first 20 or so minutes was a repeat of her performance in June, before she finally tied it in with Obama in the last 7 or 8 minutes -- and sporadically, at that.

The bottom line is, I think we're going to have to rely on Biden to be the attack-dog for the rest of the campaign. Hillary will make some appearances, but I don't see her being a newsmaker from here on out, at least as it relates to the Obama campaign.

This is just my assessment -- I don't have a particular anti-Hillary ax to grind.

Yes of course Bill Kristol, saying that the balance of an entire nation is based on the election of Barack Obama is a MINIMAL endorsement. That speech was so fantastic I want to grab any passionate Hillary supporter and tell them how much I appreciate how fantastic a candidate she is, how fantastic it would be to win this white house with their help, and how fantastic it will be to change this country for the better, together.

And by the way, does anybody out there who thought they were seriously screwing up by giving the keynote to Kaine see a little method in that madness now?

Hillary couldn't be the keynote because it simply wouldn't have been appropriate. The keynote's job is totally different from the one she had to do tonight. On the other hand, a keynote had to be given and you sure didn't want anyone who'd upstage her, or even seriously compete with her. On the other, other hand it was essential to have a thoroughly solid, completely adequate, but not electrifying, speech (and not a near-career ending disaster like Bill's in '88). Kaine filled that role perfectly. I don't think it was an accident.

Bad sign. The keynote was Mark Warner, not Kaine, and I have to say he was disappointing. Schweitzer was an excellent set-up man for Hillary. The keynote from Warner was forgettable.

But there's good news for Warner - Bill Clinton did horrible in his 1988 keynote address and that didn't hurt his career too much.

I agree. When you look at the continuum, Warner, Schwietzer, Clinton, it was perfect. Ideas, Enthusiasm, then Passion. One of them had to be key note speaker, and Virginia is a major swing state.

You mean Warner. But I agree. I liked his speech. I thought everything from Warner to Hillary was pretty good, and it had good progression.

I agree about Warner's speech. And I think folks, in the heat of this campaign, have lost sight of something that's still true in this country right now: Many people, especially "independent" voters, are still sick of partisanship precluding progress. These voters don't want "red meat"; they want pragmatism. Those voters aren't in the convention hall. They're watching at home.

Obama knew what kind of speech Warner would deliver when he slotted him in the keynote. The Obama of the 2004 keynote lives on (thank god), even if we're all currently locked helplessly in the us vs. them dichotomy.

I think since the Obama team reviews all speechs they were well aware that Warner's speech was a dud and that Schweitzer was a HIT. They undoubtedly made sure that Schweitzer preceeded Hillary vs. Warner.

The keyonote speaker was Warner. Kaine didn't speak tonight.

Well, you guys are right, know thy enemies, I guess. It just sickens me to give them any cred.

Thanks for the handle compliment, Caracala. One of my all time favorite movies.

So, after Hill's moving speech (I knew she would do it) let's get through Bill's, then it's go time. I am not young, but this is the first time I have ever followed the election so closely. I truly feel it is a matter of life or death at this point, or at least preventing more death by wars and our own citizens dying through lack of health care. I am so glad I discovered these blogs. It was lonely there for a long time!

Heh heh. Don't get too grateful. This isn't a representative mood. We've spent the last eight months scratching each other's skins off. This is the make-up sex.

HAHAHA!

THIS is the make-up sex? Sigh...I need a new relationship. :)

As I mentioned to someone in another thread, McCain lately has convinced me lately that he will show us what the last 8 yrs would have been like had Cheney been president (Luv the Twin Cities remark). It's is so go time. And that is why her speech was so good, because she drove that home. The portion of her speech about Harriet Tubman needs to be spread far and wide.

I've been here a little while and if THIS crowd like Clinton's speech...

Superb convention floor routine...AND she stuck the landing.

I've seen a few broken conventions in my life, and I am very grateful that Hillary did not take her fight all the way to the convention. Her performance tonight proved that Hillary is no longer in Bill's shadow. She is her own force. It was a strong, impressive speech.

When the floor vote is over, and especially if she delivers her delegates to Obama, I will donate again to Hillary's debt (I did before when she suspended her campaign).

I read somewhere that Hillary wants Supreme Court justice. I think that is an exciting possibility, we need a strong Democratic woman there.

Now we'll see if Biden goes after McCain in his speech.

and?

Maddow said it best. Hillary can fully support Obama to so she is a team sport but the reason she put COUNTRY first before her own ambitions was by GUTTING John McCain and drawing the line between the two campaigns. It was unbelievable and I think so much more of Hillary Clinton today than I did just a few hours earlier.

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Hillary was fantastic. I switched to Fox soon after out of some sick, masochistic desire to abuse myself and I watched Bill Kristol present himself as the complete doucebag he is. Of course, Fred, nameless female, and "token liberal even though he's a conservative" Kondracke, agreed. I had to switch away as quickly as possible. Too late. It already ruined my night. In my 38 years on this planet, I've never practiced violence against anybody. But tonight, I really, really wanted to kick Bill Kristol in the teeth.

Everybody is focusing on the fact that she didn't mention that Obama would be a good "commander in chief". For the love of pete, the founders would be rolling in their graves if they knew that our today's CinC requirement involved military service. Um, John Adams. Um, Tom Jefferson. Those dead white guys didn't want military guys running the government. GW was dragged kicking and screaming to the presidency and he never, never, exploited that resume to his advantage. Dwight Eisenhower would have never pulled the Bush "Top Gun" moment and the man was the supreme commander of the allied forces in Europe during WWII.

She kicked ass tonight. Will her supporters heed her call? That decision will be a true indicator of their support.

The masochist in me turned to Fox as well. It's like the first thing I want to know is the GOP perspective so I can see what we're up against.

I quickly turned to MSNBC and CNN before it could ruin my mood. But it's the posts here at TPM in particular that kept my spirits high.

The same reason I watch the repubs on Larry King and they really seemed unsettled. Maybe wishful thinking, but all they had was she didn't say anything about the CIC crap and why isn't she on the ticket. My guess, they're ****** in the shorts.

Thank goodness for CSPAN. Not a single talking head. You only see (and hear) the convention, from the best seat in the house. Do yourself a favor and avoid CNN/MSNBC.

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Hillary's job was to get her 18 million voters on board, and get their heads straight that what's at stake here goes way beyond petty hurt feelings. She did her job.

It's Obama's job to make the case to undecideds why he should be President.

I guess the MSM has to make a living.....

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It was the best that I have seen, and well suited for the situation. A fact that she stated numerous times, the campaign she and Obama were engaged in was historic. For that reason alone, she earned a place and roll in the convention. It appears she has reconciled herself to the fact that this process is more than about her or Obama, this is the plus for the evening. I suspect Bill Clinton will echo and expand on her vision. Cynics will be as they are, if ever she was she has now passed this stage; politics nor politicians are no better nor worst than any calling.(Posted on another site earlier)

I can't resist MSNBC when Olbermann and Maddow is on.
It seems like there is a nice flow to the convention, and tomorrow night is about commander-in-chief. Hopefully it will be said that McCain is too war happy to be president.

I have to echo the sentiments complimenting Hillary. It was the best speech I have seen her give. Far more personal and emotional than her campaign speeches. I also gave $25 to Hillary for her debt. I never believed there was the rift that the networks were touting. I hate that the networks have become promoters rather than reporters.

If Barrack loses, will Hillary run in 2012 and could Obama also try to run again???

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No wonder Kristol supports McCain...they are both wrong on everything and embarrass themselves with their ignorance every time they open their mouths.

They wouldn't be satisfied with her endorsement if they had written it themselves. Kristol's most used line.."Who do ya' have to blow to get on the air around here". Sad state of affairs when someone like Kristol is hired to do commentary. Just pathetic

Kristol's comments about the lack of commander-in-chief talk by Hillary is doubly stupid because that's the exact theme for tomorrow night, when Bill speaks (who I hear wrote the entire speech himself, for better or worse).

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Uh oh, that's not good. Now I'm worried.

Brilliant speech, A+ in tone, substance and style.

Hillary would've made a fine VP candidate if there hadn't been the prospect of Bill breathing down her, and Obama's, neck all the time.

"I think 'grand slam' is taking things a little far, don't you? Do you have lotion and a box of tissues with you, Greg?"

Ha! Straight up. Maybe Grand Slam is reasonable, but "by any measure"? She vaguely even knows what it would mean to fully endorse another person for anything, much less executing it. To those who say what more could we ask for, we just live in different worlds. One party, two worlds. Could be a tough autumn.

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Well, I am pleasantly surprised. Great speech. Probably the best that I have ever seen from her. I was totally expecting something different. I am very surprised. Only thing, I just wish she would have done that speech and unequivocal endorsement months ago. Better late than never though. Hope it works. Bottom line, great speech, well delivered and excellent future lines against mcbush weaved throughout. I loved the twin cities line. Awesome.

She opened strong, sorta went soft, and then just KILLED it at the end. "Keep going" was just epic.

I would give my entire next paycheck to have been in michelle obama's mind during hillary's speech.

A thought about the Hillary supporters in Denver and their seeming conversion (chanting Obama, etc. behind the MSNBC set). Are we seriously to believe that since she said what she said and not something else, they were persuaded and came on board? That they might not have been if the speech hadn't been so wonderful by their lights? This just looks like a big attention stunt on the part of these people, the media focusing on them, and by extension, as always, on the Clintons and Hillary especially. I don't buy it -- it just looks like a lame pro forma complainathon to me. And beyond that, if they're not ostensibly converted, they're dissing their own diva since that was the task she and the party and the media set for her. Just a bunch of pomp and self-inflation for someone who isn't getting nominated for anything. That's my take.

Nice.

I think Kristol is playing the tool and extracting the story he wanted out of it. It's easy to do if you're case is made entirely from "stats". With 30 minutes worth of data, you could pretty much tell any story you want. Tool or otherwise, I noticed the same trend throughout the speech. I think it would be hard to argue that the speech wasn't more "pro Democrat" or "pro Democratic values" than it was "pro Obama".

Thing is, "pro Democratic values" was the smart move if her goal was to rally that elusive 30% of her supporters who have yet to fall in line. They are obviously not about to be swayed by a series of kind descriptions of Obama - they've heard them all before, frequently from her lips. Instead, she presented the case for Obama as gut based reality check when considering action or inaction on election day. I'm going with extremely thoughtful and extremely well executed. She just turned out the vote.

Ending with "God Speed" was about as clear of a suggestion of "Get to work right now and get this man elected" as it could be.

All this feelgood talk about Hillary Clinton's DNC speech being "the speech of her life", "a home run", "just what she needed to do", etc. reminds me of that "Twilight Zone" where the boy has the power to read people's minds and turn them into inanimate objects if they displease him so everyone keeps telling him how great he is no matter what. "That was a GREAT speech, Hillary!" "You knocked the LEATHER off the BALL, Hillary!" "Please don't turn my head into a jack-in-the-box, Hillary!"

It was a rousing speech, but it did not rouse the right people to do the right thing. Instead, it roused the 18-Million-Crackheads to continue being 18-Million-Crackheads instead of saying "Wake the F up and shut the F up about voting for McCain out of spite and listen to me you creepy female grown-up Children of the Corn, I know we're all sisterhood of the traveling pantsuit and whatnot but if you honestly don't think Barack Obama is the best and brightest this party will probably EVER produce as an electable candidate for president, and you think it's a wise move to vote for McCain out of "protest", then you're really and truly as demented as those cheap novelty hats you're all wearing. Me? I plan to leave my own blood on the field for the next 60 days so we can get this guy in the White House where he'll carry the exact same water I do for you, only moreso. So stop being Moonies and start living in the real world. Peace out."

Instead, it was just more of that overblown me-me-me Evita Lite, with only a few token reference to Barack Obama, not as her friend and Senate colleague and oh yeah by the way MUCH LARGER AND MORE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BARRIER-BREAKER and great and honorable man she's going to throw herself behind for the next several months of all-out war against the common enemy, but rather, as simply the party's nominee. She could've been talking about anyone. Kucinich. Dennis Hopper. Wouldn't have mattered. She never came within shouting distance of the right notes she was supposed to hit for the good of the party and the good of her future chances of winning back former supporters like me who remain disgusted by her and her husband's behavior in this campaign.

Harriet Tubman?! Am I really the only one who choked on his own tongue when she compared herself to HARRIET TUBMAN?! I can't decide what's more insulting -- that she raised the image of African-American slaves fleeing for their lives at a time when Barack Hussein Obama is trying his damndest to ownplay-day the ack-blay ing-thay and close the deal with the Great Pear-Shaped Moderate-to-Openly Racist Voting Block that is the entirety of this country outside of SF and slivers of Portland and Austin, or that she actually had the balls to compare herself to, I'll say it again -- HARRIET TUBMAN. Seriously, I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Now, I have been a longtime supporter of both Clintons, and Hillary's vote for the war is pretty much the only issue we're not in lock-step. But the Clintons ran a despicable campaign, particulary in the final months, and Hillary needed to come out swinging tonight and unequivocally throw herself full-force behind Obama as his personal Cerberus willing to lunge at McCain and chew his testicles off his body like they were hanging bits of bologna. That should have been the beginning, middle, and end of the speech. "I am the new Obama Girl, I am going to be John McCain's worst nightmare until he goes back to being just an openly-senile party exile, and if you supported me in this race, join me now and let's elect the biggest world-changer our party's nominated since JFK including my husband who the network cameras are right now showing to be openly flirting with Bill Gwatney's widow. God bless you, and God bless the United States of America!" Had she given this speech, I would be counting the days till Hill '12. Instead, I find myself in the sickening position of agreeing with Bill Kristol's post-speech analysis, which either means that I've suffered a massive brain aneurism or that sometimes even a douchebag gets it right.

Kristol, I mean.

So anyway, no, this speech was not a "grand slam", and it did not re-endear Hillary Clinton to me. It was a quick and rote endorsement only a degree or two warmer than her primary concession, followed by more of that nauseating Evita Lite she seems to have glommed onto as her newfound schtick for the chicks and hicks. What this speech did was make me realize that this woman who weathered such massive and sustained hatred from the loathsome rightwing, who stood by her husband after his humiliating and moronic infidelity was all this planet talked about 24/7 for about half a decade, who once showed such great promise as a progressive leader and perhaps the first female president, has instead become something much smaller and far more meaningless. She has become Oprah.

hmmm.. whatever

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Living proof that a lengthy post can still contain nothing that couldn't be said in one sentence, in this case, "Nothing Hillary Clinton could ever do could make me like her". Wow, real profound.

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It is an eternal mystery why Bill and Hillary Clinton inspire such rage as to fill pages of emotional rantings. Whoever figures that out might also be able to end war, ya think?

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P.S. I'll never forget a few moments from the CSpan morning call-in show during Monicagate. On the Republican line, a woman turned hysterical, she was half crying, half sceaming: "that man! that man! that man! is ruining our country! that man! that man!" If you can visualize the CSpan host, trained to follow Brian Lamb's dictum of "always be neutral, calm, even boring" trying to handle the call... :-)

No, THAT's nice. Ha!

right there... for all his faults, bill clinton is exquisite in deliverying his message...

oops. my post was meant as a reply to InmanRoshi at 12:18am...

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Hillary Clinton gave an amazing speech. i can only hope that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are up to the task of following her. Cause she has laid down a marker which all others will be judge.

Anyone watch Larry King tonight? After the convention they had a number of Republicans doing analysis (it was kind of sad) and one PUMA member talking about why she's not voting for Obama. She founded one of the groups I believe. Something about heels or shoes or something in the name.

The PUMA woman was, well a little weird. She seemed to really be put off by the fact that she had been called names in the "blogosphere" (man I hate that word). I guess I can understand that. The fervent Clinton supporters turned me off to Clinton with their constant bashing of Obama, so the reverse isn't hard to imagine. Still I'm not sure any of the people running these blogs or commenting that upset her actually working for the campaign in any official capacity.

What was weird about it though was that she seemed to want a personal invitation to vote for Obama. At one point she mentioned what hotel she was staying at as a kind of invitation for an official party member to stop by (or Obama himself for all I know) and personally ask her to vote for him. I found this to be pretty outrageous. I mean, I guess if you live in a small town and the Mayor is being elected, you might want him to stop by for a chat, but a candidate for President?

Well, given that fogu2 didn't bother trolling the comment board, I believe it was a great success!

Hurrah for Hillary!

I'm not able to see Hilary's speech until someone posts it ... no fun reading highlights.

Anyway, Washingington Independent has an article about McCain's Ayer's ad ...

The filmmakers behind the 2002 documentary “The Weather Underground” have sent a “cease and desist” letter to the American Issues Project, which they say illegally used copyrighted footage from the film in its ad tying Sen. Barack Obama to former Weatherman Bill Ayers

Coupled with issues concerning Frankie Valli’s record label and “Wayne’s World”-creator Mike Myers, Obama should be painting McCain as acting like Bu$h ... his actions are above the law.

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The last sentence was my own ...still on a learning curve using the tags

Sorry

I hate to say it--and never have in the past--but I think Bill Kristol is kind of right in his take on the HRC speech. Her endorsement of Obama could not have been more generic. Yes, maybe this was all we could expect from HRC. But she basically supported him via a transitive, party logic: vote for him because he's a Democrat. There was nothing along the lines of, vote for him because his transformative. There were no lofty appeals to the historic nature of his candidacy. And even her assessment of the stakes was surprisingly bland, especially with regard to the Supreme Court. John McCain can still run his HRC commercials with ease, because not once did she directly refute the comments she makes in them.

Ok, I watched the speech with an older parent in her late sixties. After about 3/4 of the speech, she got up and left to go to bed. I asked her why she was leaving without it finishing and her response is "Hillary made the case and Obama has her vote and full support."

She later came out to ask how the post response was and agreed with James Carville who said Republicans are not happy tonight. In her opinion, when you compare the speech to that of Reagon for Ford, Kennedy for carter, or even Buchanan for Bush, the Hillary speech is a clear full fledged endorsement.

You can watch gavel to gavel coverage of the convention on CSPAN on cable with no babble, no commercials, no mindless interruptions and no crawl. Unless I were paid a huge amount of money to critique CNN, etc I will not watch them. I saw some good speeches by people we never hear about, such as Amy Kloubacher, Dem Sen from MN, all of the basic human beings who are giving short speeches, Gov Schweitzer - all of this with no interruptions. It was very moving, and the music has been good also (most of the time).

CNN = WTF?

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I am with you. I watch C-span gavel to gavel..you are right..you get to see some great speechs. Klobuchar is my Senator and I thought she did a great job, so did Miluski and that woman who lost the equal pay legal suit after her employer appealed to the Supreme Court. It has been awesome hearing from all the Democrats all over America.

I thought JesseJacksonJr also gave a great speech. I wondered where SheilaJacksonLee was. I did not even see her on stage standing with the CBC.

I have enjoyed listening to the Lationo and Asian american politicians as well as they endorse Obama.

What a country we live in.

One thing for certain I know. next week we will not see Americans of all stripes, colors and hues represented at the GOP convention. There may be one or two tokens but there will be nothing like the array of the real red, white and blue in America that we are seeing this week in Denver.

Obama/Biden 08!!

Hillary did a really great job, it was a great speech, I loved it! I am just happier than I've been and even gave Hillary some money to help pay off her debt, I Hope all Obama supporters do that today or soon because she proved last night once and for all she is a democrat above all! Thanks Hil!

I was slightly disappointed, to be honest. I will allow that the way she did it might work better for the purpose of unifying the party, but that is for time to tell.

She did do an excellent job on the speech she made rather than the one I wished she had. By no means was it bad either, so I cannot gripe much.

B+.

I think what I wanted her to say was som