GOP Strategist Accuses Obama Of Trying To Start "Race War"
Woooooo-weee do we have a live one here.
Check out this video of GOP strategist Joe Watkins on MSNBC grabbing the McCain "race card" ball and running with it. He's kind of staking out the outer fringe of the GOP argument that Obama is racializing the campaign...
As you can see, Watkins repeatedly says here that Obama is trying to start a "race war." To be clear, McCain isn't responsible for what every GOP strategist says, and Watkins doesn't appear to have any official role with the campaign.
But this appearance does neatly suggest where the emerging GOP argument is headed, its intent and subtext. As noted here yesterday, the point of accusing the Obama camp of playing the "race card" is to undercut his image as a racial uniter who's not interested in re-fighting past political battles, and instead to paint him as confrontational on race.
Here you have it laid bare.















This election will prove whether America is smart or dumb.
August 1, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what people said about the last two elections.
August 1, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we're at a tipping point due to the great idiocy of the last 8 years.
August 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
This election won't "prove" anything.
August 2, 2008 4:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
exactly and based on the polls right now I say stupid
New Disgusting McCain Ad, “The One”
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/new-disgusting-mccain-ad-the-one/
August 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just saw it, and it's the most repulsive political ad that I've ever seen. McCain really is in a race to the bottom.
August 1, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
what polls? pollster.com, the largest aggregate state by state poller has Obama 'safe' in more than enough states to win already, based on current polling. McCain on the other hand is 'safe' in states totalling only 123 electoral votes. national average polls mean jack crap. state by state polls are all that matter.
August 1, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
BINGO!!!!! That is a very factual statement but I doubt too many even understand the Electoral College impact on the race for the Presidency. No matter who has the national high numbers, that whoever gets the most electoral college votes gets elected. And now, Obama leads in state races with enough electoral votes right now to win if he keeps them all. But with the McCain's sorry, racist rhetoric, he can never even hope to hold his own in the race. His racist campaigning has turned so many people away from him. I suppose he has some "Rovian" nut planning these ads, but tell me, linking Obama to Moses and he thinks that disparages Obama. Moses, the visionary, leader of the people out of bondage, who talked directly to God, had integrity enough to be chosen for his leadership skills and was the guy who led God's own people through the desert and into the promised land. McCain is nuts about religious ideas. And btw, speaking of religion, McCain claimed he was a member of North Phoenix Baptist Church, all the while never being baptized by immersion. What a thing to lie about, ones church membership. What next out of the nasty, mean spirited camp.
August 2, 2008 5:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the stupidity of the American electorate was pretty well proven in the last two elections.
August 1, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just like the RNC always use a black man to make the most inflammatory racial remarks. I believe Kenneth Blackwell was getting in the act.
If I were the Obama camp, I'd just fold all of this into the same response about the scare tactics/silly season and not address it directly.
August 1, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watkins is a complete douchebag and is just proving it once again. In polite circles he'd be called a tool, douchebag, fool, etc. In not so polite circles he'd be called a 'house n#####'. take your pick.
gotta love that nice GOP red herring trick of having a black guy always say the most outlandish stuff. forget blackwell, isn't it about time for the GOP to trot good ol' Alan Keyes out again? I mean, come on, Obama is running a campaign so let's bring out a black guy to run against him!
August 1, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the Democratic primary, when Hillary was questioning Barack Obama's ability to reach white working class folks, Joe Watkins was on MSNBC and extrapolated:
"Whites are running away from Obama in droves!"
This is an exact quote, no joke. The station took no action against him.
August 1, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ole Joe has a point there...maybe Obama should've thought about that before he chose to be black.
August 1, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
or... he should have thought about it before he claimed that McCain will tell folks that Obama doesn't look like other presidents. Or like he said in Germany that he doesn't look like other Americans who spoke there. Etc, etc.
Anybody still in denial that Obama himself opened that door is obviously not in a hurry to take the blinders off.
If it was OK for Clyburn to do it (Josh Marshall didn't mind one bit), why can't Watkins?
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, Obama never said McCain would tell folks that. He used the pronoun "they" for a reason. He knew that McCain would never make the claim himself, but he knows that McCain's surrogates already have and that it will only get worse the closer to November we get. It was really a very smart move on Obama's part. It helps to take the shock out of future ads and punditry that will invoke racial stereotypes.
August 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually McCain did exactly that. A McCain web ad made fun of how Obama would look on money.
See
http://www.bluejersey.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8609
August 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoa! I had never seen this ad before. Why didn't Axelrod bring up this ad? To me, that ends the discussion full stop and forces the McCain camp to eat large helpings of crow.
August 1, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why doesn't the ad end with the audio "this is John McCain and I approve this message"?
Maybe this is just some homemade video..and not from the McCain campaign?
August 1, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
See, that gets to my earlier point of McCain not saying it directly. He gets to maintain plausible deniability while allowing the message to be spread.
August 1, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because it's a web ad
August 1, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unbelievable. What until this hits the MSM (which will pcik it up b/c it continues the story)
August 1, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
go away troll
August 1, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, stop using Ron English's 'Abraham Obama' image if you're going to be an anti-Obama troll. FU.
August 1, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watkins is a nutcase masquerading as a Republican strategist. Has been for years.
August 1, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is true. He is however willing to sit in MSNBC's studious all day long, 5 days a week, and be rolled out whenever they need to fill up airtime. He's eager to bloviate about anything they want him to, and in this way, he get plenty of facetime.
August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Republican strategists have no need to "masquerade" as nutcases.
August 1, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Republican strategists have no need to "masquerade" as nutcases.
August 1, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a race war now? How can networks even let that clown get away with saying that? And then he's laughing and smiling a moment later? You don't make charges like that and then want tpo play all happy-go-lucky.
I love ALL McCain surrogates are saying McCain wants to talk about the issues - like if they say it enough it becomes reality.
Obama has some of the lamest surrogates in history.
August 1, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're confused about who's who here...
August 1, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe Watkins is a hack. I loved watching him get his ass handed to him 2 weeks ago when he was going off about how Obama's Berlin speech disrespects the office of the Presidency. When the other guy (I think it was Eugene Robinson) brought up McCain's trip to Central America and Canada, Watkins just stammered along, repeating the same line about "well, the fact of the matter is, it's not right..." Robinson literally laughed at him.
August 1, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
that was comical. he gets his ass handed to him often. i can't say i've ever seen him make good points or competently rebut an argument but i'm sure i'm biased against him by now...
August 1, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alan Keyes Lite.
August 1, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again, this from the McCain Youtube site from JUNE!! Notice the face on the bills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU&feature=related
August 1, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why isn't this getting constant play on the cable networks. This is EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!
August 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Contact all the networks and ask them why they are lying by omission? I sent a polite email to MSNBC along with that link.
Someone also posted about this at Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/1/84054/82545/480/559881
August 1, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
That diary has already scrolled into blog oblivion. This needs to be reposted everyfrickingwhere.
August 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
This needs to be pushed until the traditional media picks up on it.
August 1, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
FAIR's media contact page:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111
August 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Contact all the networks and ask them why they are lying by omission?
Because. They. Don't. Care.
A few people writing in or a few thousand -- who cares? The corporate media know who their constituency is, and it isn't us. A few people writing in -- or a few thousand -- will do nothing to derail them from pushing their agenda, relentlessly, until November.
If someone actually mounted an effective advertiser boycott, that might make a difference. That would begin to speak their language. So (in a different way) would the Obama campaign getting smart about how to handle the media -- something the Republicans have done very very well since at least 1980, and the Democrats have consistently done very poorly in the same time frame.
I don't see it happening here.
August 3, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy shit, if the McCain campaign really did put Obama's face on a dollar bill as shown in this ad, then they really have a lotta 'splainin to do about their whining and indignation now. I suspect this precedes Rick Davis's days in the campaign and the idiot does not even know about it.
August 1, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You beat me to it.
August 1, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
The lovely thing about the McCain trainwreck of a campaign is that they can never resist going waaaay overboard with their attacks, so far overboard that it makes even their supporters groan.
August 1, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
And then the McCain Camp puts out this ad - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/01/mccain-camp-happy-to-inje_n_116360.html
It's like they had all of the race hate attacks stored up waiting for the moment Obama possibly brought up his own race and figured that gave them the opening to run on the topic.
Like the "troops/publicity ad", it was admitted by a GOP operative that the McCain camp had an attack strategy waiting should Obama have went to the troops. It was pretty much a no-win trap.
August 1, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Folks,
This is not the time to sit down and watch media hijack this race from us. The MSM has already chosen their candidate and will do anything to bring Obama down.
Have you guys seen the new McCain's web Ad? Like i said before, Obama's communication team need to be ready for full contact game. This is not going to be easy and the next two weeks will be extremely difficult. They need to be aggressive with the media if they are to win this race.
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe Watkins is a minister in a predominantly white Christian denomination (i think its Presbyterian) should know better than this.
This guy is a nobody and quite frankly a shill for JM. Whenever he comes on i just press the mute button. He has no credibility. he will say anything to score a few points with his Republican buddy's.
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
He calls himself a Republican strategist. well can someone please tell me what campaign he was apart off?
August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
White pride, worldwide baby!
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
PRINCETON, NJ -- According to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 29-31, John McCain and Barack Obama are now tied at 44% in the preferences of national registered voters.
Dr. Danny Jazarevic, former Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl concerning Obama’s canceled visit to Ramstein and Landstuhl: “Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital. I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale. During that time, I do not recall a single member of Congress canceling a visit with the troops despite being just a few hours away, but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country.”
August 1, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
FEED ME!!FEED ME!!FEED ME!!
August 1, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
"According to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from July 29-31, John McCain and Barack Obama are now tied at 44%"
..but any average of all the polling suggests that Obama still leads. Let me dissect more of your daily hackery.
"Dr. Danny Jazarevic, former Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl concerning Obama’s canceled visit to Ramstein and Landstuhl:"
Uh-oh, I smell a John McCain shill in the air.
"“Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital."
I wonder what the McCain camp offered Mr. Jazarevic for him to lie his ass off in such a way. A lifetime supply of Depends? A toy version of the "Straight Talk Express" that produces John McCain's cryptkeeper laugh as soon as the wheel roll?
"I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale."
Sure, this guy wasn't force-fed talking points.(sarcasm) "Celebrity"? He would have been less obvious if he would have randomly uttered "Country First", referred to his wife as a "C*nt", or made some inappropriate rape joke.
"..but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country.”"
..like all the other times he's visited wounded troops without any fanfare. I'm just wondering why the good doctor isn't more upset about John McCain's lack of troop support? His lack of judgment when it came to the soldiers who sacrificed their lives for a misguided war that McCain was a cheerleader of? Doc, shut the fuck up.
August 1, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I worry about race being the issue - that's not something that's to Obama's benefit. If even a fringe associate's Obama with "race war" or anything like that, it's not a good thing.
But take a look at Watkins when he defended McCain speaking in Canada and attacked Obama in Germany. His defense earned him the nickname "Special Kind of Stupid"
http://strategy08.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/joe-watkins-is-a-special-kind-of-stupid/
August 1, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I quote Chuck D of Public Enemy: "Every brother ain't a brother because of color!"
August 1, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is framing the argument with the help of media hack like Dana Milbank, George Stephenopolus, Mark Halperin, Pat Buchanan, and Jake Taper.
Drudge report is their mega phone...it is time Obama adopted Hillary's communication strategy if he is to win this election or else he won’t be able to get his message out.
August 1, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know why Obama is not hammering this media hack in his conference call.
August 1, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't this just what the Republicans want? Wouldn't it take him off his message?
August 1, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sell out, uncle tom, uppity. I thought you'll was talking about Obama for a second!!
August 1, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Sell out, uncle tom, uppity. I thought you'll was talking about Obama for a second!!"
It wouldn't be the first time you proved yourself to be both wrong and stupid.
August 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is panic mode by the McLame camp. This Rovian / Helmsian racial crap is supposed to get smeared on the opponent a couple of days before the election in order to leave no time for cooler heads to prevail. (It's also supposed to be a bit more subtle). Going over the top on this on AUGUST 1 for chrissakes is a sign of sheer desperation, and a guarantee that it won't work.
August 1, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or a sign that there's plenty of stuff to go until november?
August 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
You think there's any further they can go than what Watkins said? That's already waaay over the line into self-parody land and appeals only to lizard brains who were diehard McLame voters anyway.
August 1, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, maybe I live in my own little world by I feel like this kind of junk firms up support for Obama from those who were already going to vote for him and might actually sway people who were doubtful about him to feel less doubtful. They may even be starting to see that McCain actually isn't an honorable man.
August 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. People know enough about Barack Obama by now where they'll hear crap like "he's trying to start a race war!" and just laugh and laugh at whatever pathetic individual has let themselves be conned into spewing such ridiculous crap. All of this shizzy is going to backfire very, very badly for McCain.
August 1, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
"As noted here yesterday, the point of accusing the Obama camp of playing the "race card" is to undercut his image as a racial uniter who's not interested in re-fighting past political battles, and instead to paint him as confrontational on race."
His image as a "racial uniter"? What are you on drugs? Obama ran the most Racist primary campaign in History against the Clintons. Now he is trying it against McCain and people are seeing right through his bullshit.
August 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
FEED ME!! FEED ME!! FEED ME!!
August 1, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can end this now, Today. McCain has given Obama ALL the ammunition he needs to shut this down completely.
McCain has a web video that puts Obama's face ON A DOLLAR BILL! ! !
Video:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/01/mccain-ad-did-make-fun-of-obamas-appearance/
McCain has personally delivered the PERFECT counter to his own ridiculous accusations. Perfect.
Why isn't the Obama campaign sending this video to every news organization? Why haven't they done this already? Whatever the reason, they need to get on the ball and shut this narrative down.
August 1, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Think about it for a minute. If you've given McCain enough rope to hang himself with on an issue like this, do you want to quash it right away, or wait until everyone's talking about it, and then 'release the hounds', showing everyone who is paying attention that McCain is playing dirty? Time is on Barack's side here. He's got the ammo, and he will use it, believe me!
August 1, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
RAHOWA!
Actually, I think Obama is the second coming of Charlie Manson. Charismatic figure, leads a cult of young followers, wants to incite a race war so that, in the end, he and his followers are the only ones left standing.
Seriously, though, I had a family member actually hear something similar, personally. It came from a guy who says he used to work for the CIA. His "sources" tell him that the Islamic terrorists are hoping Obama wins not because they like him but because they are going to send a white assassin posing as a right-wing wacko to kill him after he's elected, thereby inciting a race war. And after our country is in ruins as a result, they will come in and take over. I'm not kidding...somebody actually is shopping this story around.
And Obama is paranoid and playing the race card by highlighting the fact that people are going to use fear tactics like this? The reality is that it's been going on for months and will only get worse as we get closer to the election.
August 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't be surprised to hear folks believe that one. if you travel widely throughout this country you'll find out a lot of things but two in particular also strike me as most jarring:
1. there are some incredibly genuine and honest people who don't pay much attention to or care much about a lot of the national issues. they just go about their business, work hard, try to do the right thing whenever they can and strive to give their kids a better life than they had.
2. there are some unbelievably selfish and unintelligent people who are really mean-spirited and nasty out there. they couldn't give a rats ass about anyone or anything but themselves and they are distressingly violent.
I strive to be more like the first group but on occasion find myself dragged into the muck with members of the second.
August 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
should be 'always strike me as'
August 1, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
was his name Larry Johnson?
August 1, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice. ROFLMAO
August 1, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. Barack Obama got heckled today while giving a speech in Florida. The hecklers were African Americans who wanted to know why he hasn't spoken out for the AA community.
Obama is starting a race war with African Americans who denounce him.
August 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
FEED ME!!FEED ME!!FEED ME!!
August 1, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Sen. Barack Obama got heckled today while giving a speech in Florida. The hecklers were African Americans who wanted to know why he hasn't spoken out for the AA community. Obama is starting a race war with African Americans who denounce him."
First, you are a product of inbreeding. Second, Obama handled that situation as cool as the back of a pillow - even letting the misguided protesters a platform to speak during the Q&A part of the townhall.
August 1, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
you do realize that was a sarcastic and ironic post, right? it was obviously a joke, the last line anyways.
August 1, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't pay too much attention to this when it came out during Obama's overseas tour. Seems, um, pretty relevant given the McCain camps attempt to say the dollar bill comment was playing the race card:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPARec32KMI
Greg, can you ask the McCain campaign if this means THEY played the race card? I'm sure they'll say no...
(h/t Ben Smith)
August 1, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like i said before, Obama's communication team are too weak
August 1, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I smell Rove alllllll over this.
Personally, I have no idea how to respond to this ridiculousness, but since Obama has stacked his campaign with truly brilliant strategists, I feel confident they'll figure out a surprising and effective comeback. I was amazed by their prowess in the primary, and, to my mind, John McCain is a much easier target than Hillary Clinton. The only real issue with McCain and the GOP campaign machine is their willingness to out and out lie. Rove's strategy is to stink up the air. It doesn't matter if a lie is later disproved-- just having it float around gives it power. And, as we all know, the MSM are obedient lapdogs in endlessly repeating the false allegation, thus giving the lie some kind of credence. It's sickening yet effective. But Obama's camp knows this-- they'll have something good to roll out, I feel sure.
August 1, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing that never ceases to anger and annoy me about TV anchors talking heads is that they never call fools like this out. The interviewer's response - and I have no idea who she is - was like, "Well, we'll see if that happens." (ie - Obama ceasing his "race war") It should have been - "Hold on a second, Rev. Watkins. A race war? That's a very strong charge. Exactly what do you mean by this and how is Obama waging a race war?"
Never happens, though. Sigh....
August 1, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
How much can Americans take of Team Obama's Racial Wambulance before they tire?
August 1, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's had his 15-minutes. The racism and sexism he, his campaign, paid propagandists (which I'm sure include a number of TPM commentors), and the unruly but star-struck cult following have trafficed has gotten very old, pathetic, and embarrassing. It is long past time to truly call everyone on this trash. It is unseemly that the Democratic party has been usurped by an arrogant cult leader that has no experience, claims credit for the efforts of others, and throws anyone and everyone under the bus when they get in the way of his quiotic quest for the White House.
You know, at least Clinton and McCain can look themselves in the mirror and be proud of what they have done in life, what they are doing, and how they affect the people around them. As well, their patriotism is intact and they inspire trust and respect. For Obama, except for and including the Hitlerish cult following he as assembled, it's all a calculation absent any substance.
August 1, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
FEED ME!!FEED ME!!FEED ME!!
August 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can't even look in the mirror he is so awful! Jesus, Matt, that is full-on asshattery.
August 1, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Obama's had his 15-minutes."
The "15 Minutes of Fame" quip coming from a Hillary Dead-ender with a penchant for being mercilessly debunked and disproved just to have his miserable voice heard - is kind of rich.
"The racism and sexism he, his campaign, paid propagandists (which I'm sure include a number of TPM commentors), and the unruly but star-struck cult following have trafficed has gotten very old, pathetic, and embarrassing."
Not as embarassing as you blaming your candidate's Barney Fife-run campaign on racism or sexism. Her hiring of Mark Penn had no racial overtones. Her claiming that she'd have the democratic nomination sewn up after Super Tuesday wasn't the doing of Obama blowing some sort of racial dogwhistle. The fact that a grown man is publicly whining like a scorned junior High School girlfriend is pretty fucking embarassing.
"It is unseemly that the Democratic party has been usurped by an arrogant cult leader that has no experience"
So called "Democrats" adopting GOP talking points is truly "Douchebaggery that we can believe in!"
"You know, at least Clinton and McCain can look themselves in the mirror and be proud of what they have done in life"
Really? Can McCain be proud of voting against a MLK holiday? Hold your head up high Johnny! How about the time he called his wife a "C*nt"? What a champion of woman-kind that guy is! Didn't he once say that he hated "gooks"? John McCain, the human embodiment of a United Colors of Benetton commercial.
"As well, their patriotism is intact and they inspire trust and respect."
Obama's patriotism being questioned by an unwavering bigot isn't that surprising.
August 1, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awaiting the Humanity_Critic's smackdown...
August 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love it, comparing Obama, a black man, to Hitler, mass murdering aryan monster. Come on, dude.
Is this all the wingnuts have in their little bag of slime, to actually think they can mention Obama and Hitler in the same breath? Who is so stupid to actually fall for it? The GOP base of course, the same slobbering morons who still think Obama is a sleeper agent black power socialist communist muzlim, oh noez!!!
They are so scared at the enthusiasm Obama has generated, so in typical Rove style, you attack it and call his supporters 'cultists' and continually refer to him as the 'messiah'.
They are so jealous that their own candidate, the ultra exciting energetic Jon McCain, is coming off as a nasty, bitter, cranky old fart who probably needs to be told that the socks go on before the shoes every morning.
August 1, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually you are right, I should have thrown in Hussein, Mussolini, Kim Jon-il, al-Gaddafi, and Iran's Ayatollah. Hey, I read that Obama's 200,000 crowd in Berlin is comparable to Hitler's notorious gatherings and one of the largest for a speech since then. Great crowd for you all.
Like I said Obama and the Dear Leader's cult following's 15-minutes are up. Now its time for the grown ups to step in before you all hurt yourselves with the twisted mental gymnastics you attempt to support the Dear Leader throughout his lies and flip-flops.
Then again, maybe this will be good, in a cleansing way, for the Democratic party to follow Obama, Dean, Brazille, and others to a decisive defeat in the fall. Even Clinton now says she doesn't want the nomination at this point. Best to stand aside and let you all finish the train wreck you're so hell bent on.
August 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly, I do agree with this comment. If the DNC doesn't win this election it is over for them.
August 1, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Actually you are right, I should have thrown in Hussein, Mussolini, Kim Jon-il, al-Gaddafi, and Iran's Ayatollah."
Of course you should have, I was wondering why you didn't employ that particular tactic. I mean, you have jumped the proverbial shark in terms of desperation anyway - just compare the guy to an evil dictator, complete the bottom dweller tri-fecta Matty!
"Hey, I read that Obama's 200,000 crowd in Berlin is comparable to Hitler's notorious gatherings and one of the largest for a speech since then. Great crowd for you all."
Only someone blinded by their own rage and racism sees attracting big crowds as a bad thing. I mean, do you actually reads you drivel before you post? A person would get thrown in a padded room, and left to create new and innovative fecal matter artwork - if somehow a person viewed an artist going Double platinum as inherently evil. "Bono must be the devil, see the crowds he attracts!!" - "John Grisham has to be a double agent, writing best selling books and shit!" Matt, are you fucking retarded?
"Now its time for the grown ups to step in before you all hurt yourselves with the twisted mental gymnastics.."
You haven't reviewed your own nonsensical posting history have you? I seriously have to question your "grown up" credentials..
August 1, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You never disappoint, sir!
August 1, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
not to mention the poster's 'walking upright' credentials.
August 1, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Howdy, Beaver.
You're a dumbshit. By why bother you with something you hear all day long. I'm no Obatman fan myself(not since he became Ronald Reagan since cliching the nom), but I'll bet you $10,000 and spot you 100 EVs that Obatman wins on 11/4.
And comparing this guy to historic mass murderers, merely because he gets Beatles-type crowds, just means you play with your pimple dick too much.
August 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Republicans simply don't know how to run a campaign that doesn't depend on playing to racial fears and were desperate to engineer this debate. It's truly reprehensible. Because my dear husband contributed to McCain at the behest of a friend we now get called by both sets of parties. The next time someone calls from the Rs I am going to try to pin them down as to what it is that I should be afraid of with Obama and how it is that he is "like" Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. I think I'll start with, "is it that he's republican like they are?"
I am so glad I am going on vacation.
August 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Trolls on parade!!!
August 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPBxhOVCl8
August 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously.
August 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, they think they smell Democratic blood and they're out in force!
What you smelt, little trolls, was the putrid final trickle of cerebrospinal fluid draining from the ears of McCain and his campaign advisors. It will make a nice gravy for your troll chow - c'mon and get it!
August 1, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well it has begun. Now let's see if the DNC and the Democrat "leaders" have the balls to fight back.
I just want to shake them! They are as guilty as McCain for allowing this kind of stuff to happen. If they aren't careful they are going to lose the whole thing.
August 1, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems to me that the media have decided to support McbushSame, and sadly nothing much can be done on this.
Honestly, I don't know what the Obama campaign can do...
No matter what they say, the media are spinning in favor of McBushSame...
Any takers?
August 1, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again folks, it ain't the campaigns, its the media. This whole thing started yesterday morining over at ABC with Jake Tapper. It now has its own momentum with other networks wanting to weigh in and play. The campaigns are a sideshow.
August 1, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is exactly right. The media wants us to be furious with McCain, Republicans, etc. The conflict feeds them. Hate the game. And the game is the MSM's creation.
August 1, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Race war"? Wingnuts can't escape the 1960s, and don't think anyone else can, either. McCain is re-fighting the Vietnam War again and again until we WIN, dammit, and wingnut "strategists" are seeing Black Panthers behind anyone who isn't as pasty as McCain.
I'm sooo glad this is the last presidential election where we'll have a candidate from either party who's stuck in 1968.
August 1, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
The seamlessness that these individuals went from Bush loyalists to McCain advocates is amazing.
Just once I would like to see someone call them on the many times that they have been wrong in the past. Unfortunately, the wrongs of the republicans are for history to decide, while the wrongs of everyone else are for voters to decide.
August 1, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
When they wheel out the tokens, you know it's desperation time!
August 1, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
House Negro? Uncle Tom? How do we choose?
August 2, 2008 1:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well if I step back and look at how this whole entire 'racething' is rolling down a mountain and catching steam..it seems to me that Obama has once again demonstrated EXCELLENT prescient JUDGEMENT!!!
Is this not what Obama said they were going to do?
Is this not the rivals raising race as the issue?
Just as Obama said they would do.
Is this not the opponent preying on racial fears that Obama said they would use to make him appear RISKY?
Seems to me Obama knows their playbook better than they do.
When is the media going to note that the McCain campaign is doing just what Obama predicted?
Obama predicted the war was of undetermined consequences and undetermined costs...and it was.
Obama predicted that we need to strike Pakistan...and we did.
Obama said the surge would not work..and it hasn't.
Obama said they would make his race an issue...and they have!
When is the media going to report the awesome brillance of this man?
When is the media going to acknowledge that McCain is doing his darnest to create racial tensions with his new web ad?
When is the media going to explain how 'honorable' McCain is?
August 1, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it was to seriously be a race war then what side will Watkins be on.
That is the question the host should have asked to make him think of the words he uses before he says them. Being from the south, these are the type that laugh at racial jokes directed at him but sees no problem with the joke except how funny it might be. I grew up with these types of people and they always created this foul taste in my mouth on sight.
Would we as Americans really would like our country to be portrayed to have the type of people that could recreate a Rwanda or Bosnia. This is complete and utter trash and incompetent reporting and hosting. The suggestion alone of a "race war" to an intelligent society should make you want to vomit. This is the most disgusting telecast I have witnessed "to date". The news media needs to be more responsible in what they air. They are up in arms because of Janet's nipple but the allow someone to incite a race riot without question.
I wish we could have had these types of conversations on the air during the day of Malcolm X and the Black Panthers...
Oh we did and do you remember how you felt then and seem as if the Republican want it back. Please note in today's society the black race is not at the complete bottom of the barrel anymore. Blacks are now the biggest consumers in America per capita. This means that they have much more money to waste than the thrifty white half. Potentially financing this race war that Watkins identifies is actually realistic today.
We the People in reality know that Americans, namely blacks, have grown closer due to many of the strides this country has made due to the past 150 years of freedom more so in the 60's - 90's. The new millennium really has been too fruitful, but I digress.
There is no possibility of a all out race war because it doesn't make since to real Americans to fight over something so petty. "Are we not human" as many a black person has said and still saying. What really is the difference between a common black person and white person in America? On the other hand, what is the difference between a millionaire and a common black person or white person in America?
We listen to this crap and act on it. When will we be "aware" and start making them listen to us? How do we do this? By using the same thing that makes us different in this country, "MONEY". Stop giving it to them and pay attention where your money is going when you use it.
We continually give them the resources to keep us separated and fighting while they clean up from both sides because we got to eat.
Everybody we talk about in these blogs have absolutely nothing in common with us except they breathe. They are not true Americans because they would feel like they are in this crap with us and demand true debate. The perpetual dissemination of this garbage is truly infuriating and makes you want to scream at somebody, but the ones responsible are never there.
WE ARE THE PEOPLE... PEOPLE.
There needs to be a boycott of cable television. CNN/MSNBC/FOX, etc. is GARBAGE. At least broadcast will try to be - hell I don't know-place description.
August 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be clear, McCain isn't responsible for what every GOP strategist says...
Really? That's pretty lucky for him. Obama is responsible for everything any black person says, most recently Ludacris, according to every pundit show on the air and a large proportion of right wing commenters on websites. Wish he could get the hang of that "not responsible" thing McCain has going for him.
August 1, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Love your characteristic understatement, Greg. :)
Spooky, innit?
August 1, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyway, this guy is totally off message and wrong--we've already moved on from this. According to the WSJ today, Obama is playing the svelte card. Think it'll work? Ask yourself this: are you more svelte than you were 8 years ago? I'm sure not. And I blame Obama. He's glommed up all the svelte and there's none left for ordinary Murikans like you and me.
August 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
What? You mean to say race is going to be an issue in this election?
Who could have guessed?
August 1, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is as bad as that closeted-gay GOP flag-waver, Ron Christie...
August 1, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have been drinking way too much Kool-Aid.
August 1, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You have been drinking way too much Kool-Aid."
Shut the fuck up, asshat.
August 1, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Republicans stand 4 R-epulsive E-gotistical P-erverted U-nprincipled B-ackstabbing L-ying I-gnorant C-owboys A-nd N-eocons S-ubversive,GOP stands 4 Gas Oil People or Gain Or Profits,also to all the uneducated hatemongering racist imbeciles who keep talking about driking kool aid and empty suit and all this bullshit about hes to far left or blah,blah tony rezko,rev.wright,bill ayres if he was white muthafuckas wouldnt b talking about all that shit,if he was white he would b leading by 40% and tha last time i check i heard dennis kunichich was way more liberal than Barack,also much respect to all the open-minded smart GOP's like sen.chuck hagel,sen.richard lugar,Gen.colin powell,susan eisenhower,president.reagan son whose a staunch obama supporter!!!
August 1, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ron Christie, Jonathan Capeheart, Joe Watkins...where do they find these people and why are they always on MSNBC?
August 1, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dhendrix1,
My sentiments exactly. Clearly it is best the MSM can do.
August 1, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
humanity-critic i agree wit u 100% b!!!
August 1, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
America will vote for stoopid because Americans are dumb.
August 1, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe Watkins set a record on MSNBC today. I counted at least four programs where he was allowed to say the same thing.
We should ask why they bring him out of the closet every once in a while like this.
August 1, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/opinion/02herbert.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=opinion&adxnnlx=1217678717-J/IWf4N0MknJ12aa+4IHSQ
August 2, 2008 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink