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Edwards: "If You Want To Beat Me Up -- Feel Free"

Here's a self-flagellating statement from John Edwards himself on his affair:

In 2006, I made a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs. I recognized my mistake and I told my wife that I had a liaison with another woman, and I asked for her forgiveness. Although I was honest in every painful detail with my family, I did not tell the public. When a supermarket tabloid told a version of the story, I used the fact that the story contained many falsities to deny it. But being 99% honest is no longer enough.

I was and am ashamed of my conduct and choices, and I had hoped that it would never become public. With my family, I took responsibility for my actions in 2006 and today I take full responsibility publicly. But that misconduct took place for a short period in 2006. It ended then. I am and have been willing to take any test necessary to establish the fact that I am not the father of any baby, and I am truly hopeful that a test will be done so this fact can be definitively established. I only know that the apparent father has said publicly that he is the father of the baby. I also have not been engaged in any activity of any description that requested, agreed to or supported payments of any kind to the woman or to the apparent father of the baby.

It is inadequate to say to the people who believed in me that I am sorry, as it is inadequate to say to the people who love me that I am sorry. In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic. If you want to beat me up -- feel free. You cannot beat me up more than I have already beaten up myself. I have been stripped bare and will now work with everything I have to help my family and others who need my help.

I have given a complete interview on this matter and having done so, will have nothing more to say.



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My heart goes out to Elizabeth and the Edwards family.

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I don't think anything else really adds anything meaningful to this situation. It's bad enough that his family had to go through this privately in 2006 when he came clean to them privately. Now they have to deal with it again, this time publicly. My heart goes out to them. My feelings on him, his actions, and his apology are and will always be secondary to that.

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I don't believe he told his family in 2006. That's a lie. I know someone who worked on the Edwards' campaign and when the story first hit the tabloids, Elizabeth was quizzing all the staff to see if there was anything to it. She had no idea. Edwards is lying.

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Attn. FREERIDER of the tellingly opaque icon...

Please wade through your 13+ postings on this human tragedy and look for my comments on your character. It can be found at about 11:15 or so on Friday night. I say here, what I say there: Get a new hobby, and shame on you.

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Thanks for telling me about my character. Your opinion really means a lot to me. YAWN . . .

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You're welcome. Enjoy oncology.

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It's a sad situation.

And whether he's lying now is of no interest to me.

He's not the candidate, he dropped out quite some time ago, and our current candidate is quite obviously a different kind of candidate.

Edwards decision to run reflects poorly on his judgment and understanding of the current political and media environments.

Edwards's decision to have an affair wasn't too bright either, apparently.

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This statement is a lie and it will only give reporters incentive to prove it. If the affair ended in 2006 and he was almost burned about it in the tabloids, WHY would he risking seeing the woman and her baby in a hotel room??

Because it's his baby!

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Well, Mr. Holmes, there is another explanation. Say he wanted to see the woman, maybe to talk to her about the fact that the stuff was about to hit the fan? Would she not have her child with her, maybe just...because it's her child and she couldn't get a babysitter? Or wanted to show the baby off to him? Or a few dozen other reasons?

The problem of course, is that this didn't hit the fan until he was spotted at the hotel. The question is who dimed him out. My money is on the spurned lover.

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They say that the driver who brought her and him to the hotel dropped the dime on him.

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Listen, she came to LA from Santa Barbara (two hours away) with the baby. She and a friend got two hotel rooms in the friend's name. Edwards snuck over there in the middle of the night and stayed for five hours.

You don't do all of that just to tell someone that the story is about to break. OK. There's telephones, you know.

Also, there would be no story to break had he not visited her in that hotel room. This story had died back in December, 2007 when he denied it and when his friend/aid claimed he was the father. Edwards was in the clear . . . until he ended up at the Beverly Hilton!

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Why? As I posted at Booman, if Edwards told his wife in '06 and they both still sat there in New Orleans in Dec. '06 when he announced he was running again, then they were both willing to endanger Dem. chances with their egomania.

It's not a secret that I am not a fan of Edwards and that I absolutely detest Elizabeth Edwards. But if she did know about this in '06, then it just proves the point I've been making for the past 4 years: that she's nothing but a social-climbing power grabber.

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Dude - taking that hurt tone and position ain't helping.

I feel sorry for his wife and his children. But that's not why I am mad - it's not that he betrayed Elizabeth.

He betrayed the Democrats - in big huge gobs when he filed to run for president.

Exactly. If he ruins the democrats chance for the White House, I will literally be livid.

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It's not going to ruin the Democrats chances this year.

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I don't think so either - don't get me wrong.

But dammit, after Bill Clinton, (need I remind anyone that Bill is still the subject of jokes and scorn at times?) this is really something every goddamn Democrat in office needs to take a refresher course in.

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he betrayed democrats even tho the affair began AND ended before the campaign started, when he was still a private citizen?

geesh...tough crowd.

He betrayed Democrats by running in '08 *knowing* that this was going to come out at some point...

What would his plan have been in the event he actually *won*?

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He's lying. The affair didn't end before the election began. That's his baby. I'm willing to bet my mortgage on that!

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If the affair ended, why was he sneaking into (and out of) the hotel where this woman was?

I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but Edwards seemed so fake to me (Ambulance chaser material).

I made the comment during the primaries when Elizabeth was introducing her husband (he was right behind her). He wasn't even listening and when she was finished, he didn't smile or even look at her (he was too busy smiling and waving to everyone else. She looked at him lovingly and he didn't even hug her or anything, just stepped up and took the podium.

The guy was sleaze from day one, which was why he waited out to see which one (hillary or obama) was going to offer him the most for his endorsement.

Just like republicans we all know and love, Mr. Edwards felt he was above it all. That he could do whatever he wanted and say something completely different on the trail. Reminds me of the "family values" meme of the republicans.

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Do you now any elected officials? Believing they can say anddo whatever they want is far and away the most common problem for them. It is by no means something that happens only to the Republicans. It is precisely this problem that leads to most of the problems politicians have in office whether they are personal problems or problems that have to do with the jobs they have been elected to do. This sense of invulnerability and/or being able to do and say as they please is pervasive and clouds the judgement of all kinds of otherwise very good, admirable people from the highest to the lowest elected officials.

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Sorry, that should be "Do you know any elected officials?"

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O come on.

We lost our majority over a damn affair- remember?

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You've got your chronology mixed up. We lost the majority in 2004. After they tried to impeach Clinton over Lewinsky, we actually *gained* seats in Congress.

But we never regained the majority. And we gave the Republicans an issue to run on in 2000 -- in part costing our nominee the Presidency.

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Thank you.

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Wrong. Gore lost because he wanted to distance himself from Clinton instead of running 8 years of peace and prosperity.

Clinton left office with a 60+% approval rating. If he could have run for a third term, he would have won.

Your assumption is that a 60% approval would have been maintained through another political campaign and I highly doubt that. Clinton fatigue was real.

It's a fact. Don't be lazy, look it up.

You're forgetting that Gore, in fact, WON the election. it was the supreme court case that he lost.

Lost the majority in Congress, in both houses, with the 1994 fall elections in the 104th Congress which was seated January 3, 1995. This was EXTREMELY upsetting to the Democratic Party since the majority had been held by Democrats since the 1950s.

Lewinsky worked at the White House in 1995 and 1996 with the new GOP majority in both houses in Congress--a very trying time I'm sure for Bill. The scandal broke and consumed most of 1997, 1998, and 1999.

The Republicans were working on securing a majority long before Monica filled out a job application.

If it did begin and end before he announced for office, and if he'd told the truth when confronted during the campaign, I might agree with you.

But .....ABC: "Edwards today admitted the National Enquirer was correct when it reported he had visited Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton last month. --- The former Senator said his wife had not known about the meeting."

So it's not merely misconduct that "took place for a short period in 2006." There was some more misconduct last month and, frankly, we don't know about his actions in between...


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ok...but the "misconduct" in 2006 and the "misconduct" last week occured both before and AFTER he was a presidential candidate. in other words, when he was a private citizen.

he wasn't "misconducting" himself while he was running for office.

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Are you really that gullible? You think he screwed around with the woman for months, stopped when he was running for president, then started up again when he dropped out?

Puhleeze! His affair has been ongoing and that is his baby. Period. Full stop.

would you stop already with the BASELESS smears???

FYI: everything you pull out of your ass is only shit. holding it up for everyone as if you were showing us facts only makes you look like a fool.

Baseless? There is a whole lot of basis to believe that. You have to be mighty gullible to buy all the mental gymnastics necessary to believe that the baby is really the baby of Edward's aide.

on what basis then?

all you've got are sneaking suspicions and logical fallacies.

BASELESS.

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Baseless? Sure. He stopped the affair in 2006. The woman has an affair and a baby with a campaign worker. Yet, Edwards admits to sneaking into a hotel to see her and the baby three weeks ago (without telling his wife). Why?

What's he doing seeing this woman, after having gotten away with the affair?

You may want to stick your head in the sand but Edwards is an admitted liar who never quit screwing around with that trashy woman.

first of all, calling her trashy makes you a disgusting pig.

second of all, you've proven nothing other than that you are suspicious. good work.

BASELESS.

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I don't have to "prove" anything. But there are logical conclusions and you're twisting yourself into a pretzel to make Edwards' version of the story make sense. It doesn't.

QUESTION: Why did Edwards sneak into a hotel in the middle of the night, spend five hours in the room with the woman (who was registered under another name) and her baby?

Have you seen her? She is trashy. NEWSFLASH: Blonde and white and not the same thing when it comes to hair color.

you obviously can't tell your logical conclusions from your logical fallacies.

do yourself (and the rest of us) a favor and familiarize yourself with the many fallacies you are guilty of:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

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Answer my question: why did he risk everything to sneak into a hotel in the middle of the night to see a woman (and her baby) he broke up with two years ago and not tell his wife?

logical fallacy, "burden of proof":

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html

again, if you pull something out of your ass, it isn't up to me to prove that it's shit. and asking me to pull something out of my own ass so that we might compare handfuls won't change that.

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You've proved my point. Your head is in the sand. I'm done talking to you, moron!

I think Hillary did more damage to the dems chances than John Edwards--way more.

I second that. While Edwards could've damaged, Hill already did. And it ain't over yet. But lets pretend there ain't no more trouble.

Bingo. I gave $$. I'm pissed at Edwards. I had this crazy idea that after the affairs of the CLENIS, that people would have a little more sense.

Christ, he's only been campaigning for president since 2005. Is it too much to ask that, in that moment of temptation, he would have thought of the implications.

That said, he's not the nominee. So it should matter not one little bit for the election. (he dreams)

He's actually been campaigning for president since 2000. He took a brief hiatus in 2004 to campaign for vice president.

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Damn straight. Imagine if he was the nominee! It would be a disaster!

If he didn't run for President this year I don't think anybody would care. He put the party and the country at risk.

Also why was he at the hotel visiting his former lover if the baby isn't his? Something still doesn't add up there.

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yes. john edwards put the country at risk by having slept with someone who wasnt his wife.

that ranks right up there alongside GW ignorign the "bin laden determined to attack in us" memo.

some of you need to get a grip on reality and get a little perspective.

Umm...he ran for President right? What if he was the Dem nominee right now?

If he was the Dem nominee right now, McCain would be a lock to win. That, my friend, is putting the country at risk.

that is nonsense. the relative infidelities of mccain v edwards would end up hurting mccain with his base way more than it would hurt edwards with his.

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As a New Yorker who feels completely let down and betrayed by the guy who was supposed to fight for my interests in Albany...I can't agree with you in the least.

Public officials don't have a private life. If Edwards had been the presumptive nominee, this would have been an unmitigated political disaster in which the Democrats yet again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Their private conduct has public implications, specifically for their party and their supporters. I mean, DUH.

i'm not sure if you responded to my post by accident or not...

i did not claim that this would not hurt edwards if he were the nominee.

my point is that if edwards were the nominee when this came out, then mccain's own infidelities would also become an issue. and that would end up hurting mccain more with his own base (with whom he is presumably already on shaky ground).

With the fucking media giving every possible pass the right wing thug ? You must be joking.

If Eddie were the candidate, he would have been sauted and served to the old guy by the fucking, media.

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McCains infidelities are old news. Forgotten. This is fresh meat. He could have brought many of our hopes down to our ankles.

Conceivable that he met with her to tell her "this is going to come out", and explain how and why...

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thats what i think.

but i dont know.

I absolutely DO NOT think he went there to have sex one lasttime, for old time's sake like some here believe.

Seriously?

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Exactly, Jonze! There's no way Edwards would have been within 100 miles of that woman if he had ended the affair in 2006--especially if she got pregnant by his close friend and aid. It's all an elaborate lie, and not a very believable one at that!

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That's exactly why I'm mad.

They know the risk they are running - they know what will happen if they get caught.

The lack of judgment is stunning.

I'm with you on this one Tena. Republicans filled campaign cauffers with the fund raising they did on Bill Clinton, in the South. Anyone wanna take bets that we will see this issue in a fund rasing letter within the next 14 days?

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they're going to raise money off of the affair of a private citizen? i doubt that...

edwards isn't a candidate for office. edwards currently holds no office.

so just how in the world are they going to make this an issue?

and if they do, they should be beaten about the head and shoulders until they bleed because thats exploitating a private family's troubles and thats just disgusting.

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Ah yes, I agree with you, it is disgusting. But you have to remember it is the republicans who will try to fundraise off of this. We dems only had to point out the hypocrisy of the "family values" republicans and their many discretions. As a matter of fact Karl Rove himself said that personal scandals bring a whole party down.

This was supposed to be a Dem year because of all of the repub scandals of various forms. The only thing they have to go on is "See, the dems are no better than we are."

It does not do us dems any favors at all with a nominee that is not well known to the joe schmoes of the country. "If John Edwards turned out to be sleazy," they think, "what about that new guy Obama? Forget it. All politicians are corrupt."

Yes...thanks John. Man between him and Hillary this season....
I tell you, I can't believe that just a few months ago I thought that decent republicans would vote democratic this year. Now they'll choose John McCain if only because that is the sleaze they know...vs the relatively unknown Obama. If they judge him by Edwards, Hillary or Bill's version of a democrat...we're sunk. It will be interesting what this does to poll numbers.

Never miss an opportunity to blame Hillary.

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What? Like she hasn't given the republicans fodder for ads against Obama? (the threshold endorsement of McCain comes to mind) nice way for a "democrat" to act. Sorry, but if the foo shits....

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Luckily he isn't Senator Edwards. Or Rep. Edwards. Or nominee Edwards. He's just run-of-the-mill ex-candidate Edwards. But he is a Democrat, and I agree that they'll try and twist that somehow. Hell, there's no twisting needed, it's plastered all over the news!

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Eliot Spitzer redux.

"I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen," - John Edwards, on Bill Clinton, 1999.

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Wow....now that is some chutzpah

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Of course Bill's response could have been "Hey John, don't knock it till you try it."

He messed up.
But I still think he's a good man.

That said, it's too bad we live in tabloid world.
CNN is calling it the John Edwards Sex Scandal.
It was an affair. Something he should be--and is--ashamed of. Scandal? They are acting as bad as the Enquirer. Let's leave them alone now so they can continue to work it out.

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Still that niggling problem of him not telling his wife he went to visit his former mistress and her baby that's not his. If he's willing to take a paternity test, he was either being blackmailed or getting some while a baby was in the room.

Or maybe both.

Unanswered question. If the affair took place and ended in 2006, and/or it's not his baby, then why did he pay a secret, undisclosed-to-his-wife trip to meet the woman with whom he had an affair at the Beverly Hills hotel and stayed until the middle of the night?

Oh, and is that grainy photo in the Enquirer him playing with the baby? Why?

If he doesn't answer these questions, it appears that the lies are continuing.

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Huh. Well, don't know about you guys but I'm impressed. As far as public admissions of guilt from politicians goes, this one has the most class of any I've seen in a while.

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Whining about it?

That's class?
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wow, you have no concept or taste, do you?

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who the fuck cares?

double the fuck who cares..

Yep, it's done. How this affects the world I have no idea. A politician having an affair--I bet that's never happened before!

He is not running for president now. He is no longer an elected official. If there's anything else going on, it's between him and Elizabeth.

We can get caught up in this and act like the National Enquirer or town gossips or we can focus on things that really matter. It's your choice.

sanctimonious busybodies, that's who!

Hey, no one forced Edwards to confess!

Poor Elizabeth. What a scumbag Edwards is!

Notice how many 'I's & me's' in his statement. Totally political and insincere.

so he should have said "we're ashamed" "we've made a serious error in judgement"??? He's taking responsibility for his actions. I think the I's and Me's is not only appropriate but called for.

You have nothing more to say??? Damn right, motherfucker! 'Cause your career is over.

Go back to your dad's friggin' coalmine, or whatever the hell it was.

Utterly believable, heart-rending, and human statement.

This especially seemed to go the extra mile: "In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic."


side note: I only wish politicians would admit to having feelings for the people with whom they had affairs. It's tacky and heartless for them simply to deny they are in love with the person -- it makes their actions seem even sleazier.

exactly. but they have to play along with the big lie that monogamy is the one and only true path. and that 'cheating' is only ever about dirty sexual desires.

americans love to take pleasure in judging other people about sex because judging other people's sex lives is the only time it is acceptable to take pleasure in sex outside of your own marriage.

Or we could be judging all the lying he did. Or the money he gave her the videos. Or his actions that could have put us at risk of another Republican president.

you can fool yourselves but you can't fool me.

Well I never thought I would have to come clean.


It's about time, I never believed you in the first place John Boy. I said that you were having an affair when the Enquirer revealed it initially.

The bastard is YOUR child, John Scumbag Edwards.

Obama/Edwards 2008! TWO LOSERS!

Whatever he says will not help repair his own image or political career- and playing a victim doesn't help at all. Especially, when he admits he was with the woman just two week back in a Hotel makes his confession seem phony.

Again, atleast for me and I'm sure for many here is New York, having a affair frankly isn't it a big deal. It's his private business who he is screwing but he had chutzpah to jeopardize the democratic party's chances to reclaim the White House. That's not excusable. I'm thankful he lost.

See, if I was running Obama's campaign I'd challenge John McCain to issue a similar statement regarding his own many adulteries and his well-documented abandonment of his own ailing wife for the current drugged-out millionairess.

But then again, unlike most here, I support a candidate who pledged to pack a gun for the knife fight.

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I'm with benjoya hussein__ who cares? I hope McLame starts throwing rocks from one of his many glass houses!

Oh, the old sicko needn't bother about throwing stones. The fucking media will catch them for him under fucking "maver(d)ick" meme.

I'm pissed because if Edwards was our nominee, we would have a huge disaster on our hands right now. He really put the party at great risk by running for President knowing that this story was out there to blow up. Could you imagine what the Republicans would be doing with this if he was the nominee or even if he was VP? Bullet dodged and thank heavens for that.

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I'm impressed, too. If he had been a Republican, the other party to the affair would have been a man, a child, or a bathroom stall.

Aw, shit.

I really liked Edwards. he was my early first choice, before Obama really started to get press. (I switched my suport to Obama pretty early on. Never Hillary.) I am less shocked at the affair -- lots of people do that (see: my ex-wife and someone I thought was a close friend) -- than I am in the fact that he ran for president at all. Did he not think this would come out at some point? I daresay if he had (a) done better in the primaries or (b) been picked for VP, we would have heard about this a lot sooner.

I really wanted him for AG. I don't see that happening now. What a waste.

All that said, it's a matter for his family, not us.

I guess I'd care about this more if the same standards of outrage were applied to Republicans. As it is, it's just another thing that's none of our business being used to vilify Democrats by people whose hypocrisy over exactly this sort of thing is both legion and routinely ignored.

I don't particularly care if the baby is his or not. None of the details of the affair are relevant to anything.

However, his choosing to run for president with this secret in his closet is major political malpractice, and so his career in politics is justifiably finished. This probably also scotches any chance at SCOTUS.

One thing I'll say for Guiliani - he may have been a authoritarian asshole, but because he was so brazen about his infidelity that it was never any sort of secret, and thus didn't put his party at risk for nominating him and getting a nasty surprise later. Can't say the same for Edwards.

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I can understand why he may have not wanted to reveal this. Elizabeth is dying. His wife and the mother of his own flesh and blood is dying. Isn't it possible that he was trying to avoid admitting this terrible lapse in judgment to avoid Elizabeth having to endure during her last days all the talk in the press that would ensue if it was admitted publicly.

I think Elizabeth herself has said that she loves to visit the blogs. All major news sites, including this blog should respect whatever time Elizabeth might have and not report about this issue until after she has passed away.

Strom's Thurmond's parenting of a black child out of wedlock did not destroy the Republican party.

Neither should this incident destroy the rest of Elizabeth's life or prevent her from visiting her favorite liberal blogs. I hope there will be no more stories on this site about this subject. Unfortunately there are many hard and mean or non thinking people in this world.

You may not agree with me, but at least think about what I have said.

Offshore Drilling is very risky for politicians. Storms can erupt and create the need for massive cleanups.

Very clever. I like it.

He knew that the Enquirer had the story last fall. He endangered the nation with his deceit. The age of privacy is long over for politicians. If he had gotten the nomination, McCain would be a sure bet for POTUS today. How many lives would be lost in wars to follow? For one man's vanity...
"What evil lurks in the minds of men? Only the shadow knows..."

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I never liked John Edwards,....he always seemed phony to me to some extent. I guess his family values ploy is out the window. But I must agree,...it's not a nice thing to do to your sick wife, after basically running on that goody-goody family thing in public. Another hypocrite who got caught,...next!

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Isn't it possible that he was trying to avoid admitting this terrible lapse in judgment to avoid Elizabeth having to endure during her last days all the talk in the press that would ensue if it was admitted publicly.

O I'm positive he was trying to avoid what he did.

And I'm sure he wishes now that Elizabeth didn't have to go through this - but he should have thought of that before he took his cock out of his pocket.

Tena

Out of his pocket ???

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Maybe Riele likes toys.....(sorry that was soooo bad, couldn't resist) he he (blush)

However, his choosing to run for president with this secret in his closet is major political malpractice, and so his career in politics is justifiably finished.

Well, there's currently somebody running for president with a whole lot of adultery in his closet.

We don't go there, though. The Donkey obediently follows its well-worn tracks along the high road, even when they lead to the glue vat.

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As far as I'm concerned, if someone wants to fuck around they ain't bothering me - as long as they are prepared to pay the price if they get caught.

That's the only rule that matters in having an affair - you have to ask yourself is you are willing to pay the price.

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if you are willing...

My God, I'm reading the comments here and it's just crazy.

Edwards? Who cares.

McGoo poked his crooked little pecker in every honey hive in DC and he's only three or four points out of the race to lead the free world.

bing bing bing!!!

I agree.

But the trick is to have someone ELSE bring it up, not Obama, his campaign or surrogates. The person who kills the king cannot be the king. We need the media to play this up, to do their job, to point out the hypocrisy and adultery of John McCain and the Republican party.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, I think I'm back in reality now.

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Paging Larry Flynt...Larry Flynt to the courtesy phone, please...paging Larry Flynt...

I agree. If it had come out while he was still in the race for the nomination it would have mattered. At this point, completely irrelevant.

McCain's marital infidelity is also irrelevant until or unless it is proven. Barring that, his improprieties regarding a multitude of other issues are reason enough to deny him the office of president.

apr 1979: mccain meets cindy, begins 'dating' her soon after

jan 7, 1980: mccain and 1st wife separate

feb 19, 1980: mccain files for divorce

mar 6, 1980: mccain & cindy obtain marriage license

apr 2, 1980: mccain's divorce granted

may 1980: mccain and cindy married


you can't leave your wife for another woman without being fundamentally unfaithful to her by any reasonable definition.

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So if everyone is jumping off the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge, are you going to say it's ok, "cause they do it too!"

Dude, that's a very sad moral argument, really. I know Repugs have affairs - like I said - Gingrich walked out on one wife while she had cancer - I don't like that either. I think he's a fucking toad - so does that mean Democrats should be toads, too? Or that we should forgive for acting like Newt goddamn Gingrich?

Tena, just so you know, I'm ignoring you.

Sounds rude, I know, but I'm doing you a favor here. Really.

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Ignoring me isn't rude, Lamont - that comment was.

and you meant it to be.

I get the implication - you could destroy me if you wanted.

How very very typical.

John Edwards didn't walk out on his wife. He had an affair.

Was it stupid? Sure was. Is he human? He sure is.

My God, There is a war beginning to rage in Russia; The White House, working with the CIA, lied to get us into Iraq (I know, but now we have more evidence); White House officials are refusing to testify about their role in firing Federal Prosecutors; the elections are coming up--and we're all concerned that a man had an affair.

Affairs happen--and there is no such thing as good timing when it comes to that. He lied about it? Of course he lied about it. Get real.

He was wrong. He admits he was a fool. I'm forgiving him. The rest of you can keep gossiping and acting holier than thou.

Win.

Gossip is the tool human beings use to talk about community morality. It serves a purpose by getting everyone to compare their behavior, with the one being gossiped about. It's a kind of ethics sounding board.

Like fables or parables, we learn something from the behavior of others. That's why gossip is so powerful and so popular. For better or worse, it ain't going away. That's why it's so stunning when politicians put their careers at risk, for a bit of nooky.

A. I don't care so much about this sort of thing.

B. It's not any of our business.

If the Republicans care to somehow tarnish this on Obama, someone needs to remind them that McCain started seeing Cindy while he was still married to his first wife.

You're right, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

If McGoo can roll around in Cujo's private jet wearing $500 loafers and then call Obama an elitist and still not get punked on it, don't be surprised when he starts flinging adultery shit at Barack, too.

The high road will take us to victory, though, as it always has in the past.

Guess its time I change avatars.

Bummer. Edwards was my original choice for nominee way back when. Seems like a hundred years ago now.

Well done! Paris for VP! That'd really chap McCain's arse.

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When are the people of this country going to grow up? In any other civilized country in the Western world, this whole business would have been treated for what it is -- a very personal matter that has absolutely zero bearing on a person's ability to govern.
I say this not only about Edwards, but about every politician, Republican and Democrat, whose completely personal life has been dragged through the mud to satisfy a bunch of holier-than-thou hypocrites.
A quote from Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, the wife of the French president, is quoted on the cover of Vanity Fair's current issue that sums it all up.
"It's not that I had a lot of lovers," she says. "It's that I never hide them.

So does this take NC off the table?

Not unless John knocked one off with Barack.

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Edwards should refuse to say anymore on the subject.

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he did

"If You Want To Beat Me Up -- Feel Free"

OK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmewRquUxc

Don't use your sick, dying wife to cover up this
garbage. A* hole.

I am inclined to think that not only is this likely the reason Edwards took himself out of consideration for VP but also why he seemed hesitant to endorse Obama and has since appeared to distance himself from the Obama campaign.

If only he had been so thoughtful prior to whipping it out or before he threw his hat back in the ring.

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Edwards didn't take himself out of consideration for veep; he was never under consideration. And he endorsed late because he was trying to get something from Hillary and Barack. He summoned them both to his house to beg for his support. Remember that charade?

What an arrogant ass!

That was the story at the time. Maybe he confided his guilty secret... we'll never know.

In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic.

And to think when I told my hard-core Edwards supporting friends that I thought this of him during the primary, they lambasted me.

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You're vindicated.


That's always nice. ;)

It truly, truly is. =)

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Me too :)

How's the new daddy today, Jonnie?
John Edwards = Barry Hussein Obama = Michelle Hussein Obama= SCUMBAGS

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Which Jonnie is that Marginal?

The Jonnie that cheated on his sick wife and stayed with her, or the Jonnie that cheated on his sick wife and dumped her for a rich heiress?

I'm ashamed of the scumbag Democrat who did it, and you're proud of the scumbag Republican.

Go figure.

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My mistake; McCain didn't cheat on his sick first wife, he cheated on his first wife after she was severely disfigured in a car wreck.

Now there's a marginal distinction for you.

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I feel for Elizabeth and the kids. This a family matter in the Edwards' household and John Edwards will have to deal with it there.

Additionally, it was a bone-headed move . . . in America. In Europe, this behavior would have got him elected to Prime Minister, President and Pope . . . But Edwards does not live there.

It is my belief that having a martial affair does not imped ones ability to lead and history is full of examples that supports this belief.

All said and done is just that . . . all said and done. Now, there is stuff that matters to be focused on and I think that we should focus on what is needed to get the job done.

I can't wait till this is all over.

I was a hardcore Edwards supporter but after he dropped out, he was nothing.

Now I don't real care to see his personal life on TV every 5-seconds, or anyone else's unless they are an elected official, then maybe.

He is nobody. There is no reason to even care. End of story.

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Has anyone here ever read Lies My Teacher Told Me? It is an extraordinary book. It reveals not only the narrow minded perspective of the U.S. "history" we've been fed in school (i.e. designed to laud the American male of Northern European/British descent)but also our insistence on heroicising all comers to the table of noble behaviors.
I'd like to smack Edwards a good one for his asininity here, but it doesn't destroy the Democratic party nor denude him of all admirable qualities.
And George Washington COULD tell a lie.
And Thomas Jefferson DID own slaves.
And on and on.
Still, I'd take Edwards or worse, over Dick Cheney or The Village Idiot or John McCain any day in the blink of an eye.
If I had to cast my vote for the one who never lies, I'd never have cast a vote in my life and I'd never be able to vote again.

Thomas Jefferson not only owned slaves, he made a mistress of one of his slaves, named Sally Hemings, and had children with her. Sally was also his late wife's half-sister. That does not take away from the fact that Jefferson was one of the great Founding Fathers. It did make him a very flawed human being.

However I hasten to add John Edwards is no Thomas Jefferson. Indeed John Edwards is not even John Edwards, and never was. He was some kind of political doppleganger.

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I'm extremely pissed off, because I was one of his supporters.

I suppose that yes, if a person wants to cheat on their spouse, its really an internal family matter. And yes, Edwards is back to being a private citizen.

But what business does that person have running to be the standard-bearer of their party if they have a recent incident like this? Just to see that party 'standard' get dragged through the mud?

As if the Republicans don't have enough made-up bullshit to throw around, why in the world would Edwards even think about running when he knew damn well this would come out anyway? I suppose anyone supportng Edwards was supposed to defend him? He was expecting voters to give him a pass as well?

I'm glad now that Edwards dropped out. I would rather Obama or Clinton would be the nominee.

Thanks "John".

I think this story should be a segway into John McCain's many affairs and his nasty abandonment of his first wife for the younger, very rich Cindy. There is no point in wallowing in our disappointment about Edwards' hiding this from the electorate and thinking he could get away with it. But there is a point in reminding the public or educating them about Mr. Straight Talk Integrity McCain's real and rather lurid history.

Clearly, I am not the only one to think of this:

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/what-elizabeth.html

This is what needs to be the story.

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This is a private matter and I'm sorry for all involved that it became public. Let's leave it alone and move on.

From a clinical standpoint, it is utterly amazing to me how strong, even lethal is the male sx drive. That men who know so much better, and given the Clinton mess and the other scandals that are so recent, would go ahead anyway--risk everything for a moment--(ok an hour)--of reckless abandon. John Edwards is a man of integrity, accomplishment, who loves his wife, and yet---------.WTF?.. She isn't even pretty.
Hey, I'm a woman, what do I know?

My take on Edwards was always, "I like everything he's saying but I don't believe a word of it."

The netroots really have egg on their faces here--not the best judge of character, are they? It's pathetic to see how easily they were taken in by Edwards' words when Obama was always obviously the honorable man and true progressive.

obama isn't even sort of progressive. what about obama's agenda do you imagine is progressive??? obama is center-left/center-right with the center being wherever the compromise is.

if the obama supporters didn't insist on imagining progressivism where there is none, i wouldn't resent obama's nomination as much as i do. obama was one of the least progressive candidates running.

and for the record, no one was under any delusion that edwards' progressive platform was dyed in the wool. but at least he had a progressive platform. (a platform i might add that obama attacked until he co-copted it for himself, how 'truly progressive' of him.)

So you admit you were taken in, but it was ok because Edwards was saying what you wanted to hear?

In my humble opinion, you need to get a life, get off your high horse, and worry about your own sins. We all live in glass houses, including you.

McCain and Clinton responded to this news. From CNN:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/08/mccain-clinton-recat-to-news-of-edwards-affair/

McCain had no comment. Not surprising, considering his past. Ugh.

I was just watching coverage of this at Olberman. I was thinking back on the night before Edwards gave his concession from the primaries.

My boyfriend and I decided to go see him in St.Paul to stump. I was very excited- this was the first Presidential candidate, let alone, President of the United States I had seen. In any case, great speech, great to hear him say somethings another candidate hasn't said in a long, long time.

Towards the end of the speech he was talking about veteran's, veteran's benefits, and listing some of the ways W. has effed them over.

Anyways, while he's reading the laundry list, a few in the crowd were shouting, emotionally "SHAME!".

"SHAME!"

I remember the look in Edwards eye. He seemed very affected by it. I thought it quite remarkable that a crowd could get such an emotional response from a candidate like that. Certainly it was my first brush with him as real human being. I was used to seeing him as a mere talking image on a screen. I didn't really know what to make of it at the time. I still don't.

Someone may have already said this, but Let's play Devil's Advocate for a minute. Who among us thought that today's big story would be about the Edwards affair. No one I'd bet. It started out with McCain releasig another "Celeb" ad, Hillary Clinton & Clinton drama, and the Obama "on vacation" meme. I know Edward supporters and former staff or pissed, but man this may have been perfect timing for Obama to go on vacation. With the Olympics going on, this Edwards business, and McCain not wanting to touch the "infidelity" card with a ten foot pole, no one, and I mean no one will be discussing McCain's presidential campaign. Sadly for some, but gleefully for this Obama supporter, McCain just can't catch a break.

Maybe God really does hate John McCain.

I would have felt sorry for Elizabeth if this was 2006. Or if he'd had the affair in 2007 after announcing. But this is 2008 and she went into this election KNOWING about the affair, yet remaining complicit in keeping it silent. I'm disgusted by John Edwards and deeply, deeply disappointed in Elizabeth Edwards.

He talks about narcissism. It's the ultimate in narcissism to think you can get away with an affair while running for the presidency in our current media climate. Especially while dragging your young children to every campaign event and refusing to stop running even after your wife is diagnosed with Stage IV cancer. I'm really quite pissed at them both.


Me too. Why did they issue public statements now of all times? Why do they ask for privacy when they are the ones who dragged us into their personal lives? What's up with the final-word "interview"? I didn't actually give a shit if he'd had an affair, so why make me care by forcing it to go public? How fucking vain is that?

I see there's a potential positive at the same time that this scandal brings, it diffuses the growing nostalgia anxiety people were having about the Clintons in recent weeks as they face the same problems the Edwards are now having.
Now I expect there to be no backlash from who ever Obama picks as his VP.

I could not possibly care any less about the extramaritail affairs, sexual orientation, or other such private details of a politician's life.

It's between the two parties; the rest of us should butt out.

I'd be more than happy to butt out, but Edwards issued a public confession, so obviously he wants me to know about it.

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NOTE TO "FREE RIDER"

You are an exceptionally mean-spirited, disturbingly obsessive, pointlessly relentless SOB. This is made manifest by your body of posts, and is especially exemplified by your fixation on holding to account a man whose life has been irrevocably damaged by his own misbehavior, which he has essentially acknowledged.

The man effed up. This is not in dispute. Yet, you persist in picking gnats out of feces with the same pathological obsession of Captain Caine searching for his purloined strawberries.

There is no career here to be ruined, only a family to be tormented. Your behavior begs a question best expressed in three letters: WTF?

Get another hobby. This is not a healthy pastime. It is a sadistic enterprise that is beneath contempt. Shame on you.

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WTF? Edwards lied to his family, he lied to his staff and he lied to the voters. AND HE'S STILL LYING!!!

I would feel better about him if he quit the BS and stopped treating us like we're stupid. His story defies credibility.

If he wants to keep this a personal matter, fine. But don't come out and claim to put your cards on the table and keep lying.

FYI, I'm not tormenting his family. He did that. And he's continuing to do that by telling stupid lies that don't pass the smell test.

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Were you a fly on the wall? From whence do you derive your information? And, right or wrong--what's the difference? The damage is done. He's toast. His family is humiliated and betrayed. Your contribution is just salt in a wound. The general point is clear. He used them as a beard to conceal his hypocrisy. The rest is just lurid detail. Haven't they suffered enough?

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Why are my postings any more salt in the wounds than anyone else? I don't get it. You believe him; I don't. How is my stating I don't believe him hurting Edwards?

This story is all over the media. It's prominently displayed on this blog. Hundreds of people are sharing their opinions. I'm one of them. Why am I such a disgusting person simply because I state that I don't believe him? You act as if I broke the story or as if I'm stalking the Edwards home or their children.

I don't believe him. I think he's still lying. His story is not credible. I have a right to say that.

Why are you trying to stifle dissent? Do you think that attacking and bashing me will or shutting me down will help the Edwards?

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"Why are my postings any more salt in the wounds than anyone else? I don't get it."

That you 'don't get it' is clear. You seem blinded by malice, as though he was your husband. What makes your posting more pernicious than most others is their sheer number.

You don't believe him. Understood. You also don't really know what you're talking about. You can surmise all you want, but conjecture is not knowledge. And your persistence is cretinous.

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Every post here is conjecture, including yours. If you don't like what I have to say, then don't read it and don't "stalk" me across the board. Ever thought of that?

I believe Edwards is lying. Bashing me won't change that. But it does make me think you're an Edwards paid mouthpiece or something. Why do you care what I think so much that you would spend your time stalking an anonymous poster on a blog?

Repeat: I think Edwards is a bald-face liar and is continuing to lie. I can say that because of a little thing called the First Amendment. Remember that?

Now, go fuck off. Or go fuck Edwards since you're behaving like some horny little butt-boy!!

Beat me up? Look at this lawyer's spin to violence...to distract the mental neurons. No, I don't want to beat you up. I want to SUE you for misleading and abusing the public trust. Put you in the poverty camp. Mr. big ego man.

Sure, affairs such as this are painful for friends and loved ones to accept; but I think they should remain private matters.

Besides, as awful and devious as an extra-marital liaison may be, it's far less despicable than being f*cked by your own government.

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I'm sorry, FreeRider, but, as he says, the burden of proof is on you, not on Edwards. Edwards doesn't have to prove is innnocent to you; rather, you have to prove he is guilty. Yes, you have goood logoical conclusions, but they could be better if you fix your logical fallacies. It's entirely possible for your conclusions to still work if you fix your logical fallcies. Not that I agree or disagree with them.... it's just you have too many "holes" in your argument.

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Sorry. I don't have to prove anything. I don't believe Edwards. I think he's still lying. I can say that, you know, because of the First Amendment and all.

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The First Amendment: the last refuge of the gasbag.

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And stalking an anonymous poster around a blog site is the last refuge of a butt boy!

Good luck with your crush on Edwards. Hope he treats you better than he treats his mistress and illegitimate child!

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Man FreeRider you have some obsession going on there, is it with Edwards or Hunter? I would bet my mortgage you have a hard on while posting.

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The National Enquirer was the only responsible press in this matter. Given the immaturity of the American Public which ignores the historical evidence that great public figures can have poorly conducted private lives, the existence of an affair on John Edward's part was an electoral time bomb waiting to go off. Regardless of Elizabeth's forgiveness, he should not have run. The MSM should have investigated the charge and revealed what they found.

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Never liked the guy. Total ambulance chaser and terrible senate record. Thank God he didn't win the nomination.

What was up with this primary? Hundreds of millions wasted on the one hand by a guy who could never have won the general and would have torpedoed dems chances and two other candidates who lost in February and riled up a portion of dems falsely claiming that they had a credible shot. Unbelievable.

Well, at least this came out in the summer and before the election. Could you imagine if he was very tied into the obama campaign? That would have been devastating.

You're a liar. I know Elizabeth Edwards, and she told me about this herself in 2006. See how easy that is? Unless you name some names and establish any sort of credibility at all, then there is no reason anyone should take you seriously. That's not an opinion, that's fact. My opinion is that anonymous rumormongers rank barely a step above pedophiles in personal morality. You probably do sleep well at night. Sociopaths are rarely troubled by conscience.

That response was to Freerider at the top of the thread, by the way. Sorry for any confusion.

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Whatever, dude. Check back in a month when more details have come out and you'll feel like a fool for buying a story that doesn't even ring true.

I am without sympathy for these two regarding this deception of the progressive movement. I guess people are going to give Edwards a pass because he's rich and goodlooking, and his wife a pass because she is charming and in ill health. This campaign was drawing dead from the jump.

In poker, when your hand is going to lose no matter what, the best case is that you fold early. But Edwards sucked a lot of money and time from volunteers and donors before folding. He should have thrown that off-suit 7-4 into the discard, knowing he was going up against high pairs in his party and maybe in the general election.

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There is no "pass" to give. Edwards is the new Gary Hart--permanently crippled as a public figure. Any further punishment accrues to his family, because he's as done as done can be. Woulda, shoulda, coulda don't apply here. The gig is up. So, the question remains--why beat a dead horse?

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Didn't it come out that Bill Clinton, while the nominee for President in 1992, had had an affair with one Gennifer Flowers?

He went on to be one great President. I don't see infidelity, or even lying about it, by a politician, with some staffer, as being an issue important to me (instead, I am concerned about wars, bad tax policies, and looming depressions).

Now, what you'll jump on, is that she was paid $100K by a pac to make a film, which she had no experience in. This is just doing Fox News' work for them. She's not the first paid staffer to have an affair with their employer. Moreover, it's just a non-issue compared to the more relevant ones of wars, bad tax policies, and looming depressions.

This could be good for Obama, b/c comparisons will be made to Edwards' affair(s) and McCain's.

The only good thing to come of this Edwards mess is that he shared the stage with Oilbama when he endorsed him. Thank god he did not endorse Hillary. Edwards is just another typical scumbag Oilbama supporter who stands by Oilbama's vote for Dick Cheneys Big Oil Energy Bill.
Edwards and Oilbama = two Peas in a Pod.

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Actually, it's McCain who must be cringing at this point. Obama is still happily married to his first wife,

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...and Johnny dumped his disabled wife for Ms. BeerBucks. The comparisons to Edwards are not convenient.

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Judgemental?

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Gosh, I hope this story goes on and on. I hope it lasts and lasts. Because this will put a big freakin' spotlight on ole Johnny McCain:

And I quote:

"In 1979 at a military reception in Honolulu, McCain met Cindy Hensley, an attractive 25-year-old woman from a very wealthy politically-connected Arizona family. Cindy's father, Jim, founded the Hensley and Company, the nation's third-largest Anheuser-Busch distributor.

McCain described their first meeting, "She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident. I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening's end, I was in love."

While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy. He married Cindy in May 1980 -- just a month after dumping Carol and securing a divorce.


NOTICE THE LAST PARAGRAPH TROLLS!!!!

WHILE STILL MARRIED....McCAIN BEGAN AN ADULTEROUS RELATIONSHIP!!

Yeah this Edwards story is a real downer for one presidential candidate. Just not mine..LMFAO!!!

Bring it Bitches.

I can't believe that Amy Silverman's major profile of McMajorShit published in the Phoenix New Times News on August 7th has sunk beneath the waves so quickly. It reads as being balanced and presents him in a DEVASTATING light. She has a longtime perspective on his career centering in Arizona and has covered his activities for nearly three decades from Phoenix. After reading it, one understands why the Nancy Reagan endorsement last month was such an ICY affair. Apparently, the lady in red loathes him. It was all political expediency.
Here's the link for anyone interested:

http://phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/848709

Please distribute widely!

I never bought Saint Edwards new platform when he remade himself from the centrist he was in 2004 to a sudden champion for the poor in his 2008 run.

Anyway, people here keep saying that he made it their business by going public to the press about it and ask why he did this if he wanted to keep it private.

Well, a surrogate of the Obama camp mentioned prior to his public announcement that if he wanted any hope of being part of a future Obama administration this would need to be cleared up.

Unfortunately for Edwards, the damage he did might very well prevent him from any future in politics. Especially if what he's told the public so far is not the whole truth, with the meeting at the hotel with his 'ex' mistress being highly suspect in the eyes of the public.

And one more thing.

At least Mark Warner knew when to fold'em early.

I can't help but note one final irony.

All the gushing commentators pushing for an Edwards VP ticket using the argument that Edwards had the advantage of having already been 'fully vetted'. A lot can happen in 4 years.

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99 per cent honest! what a goddam lie that is. what a goddam liar edwards is. he was 99 per cent lying. denying the one crucial fact. that he had the affair. that's the 99 per cent. he deserves to be beat up on. every bit of it. but in a larger sense, apart from his family and his staff, all of whom he totally betrayed, who cares. he's a has been. never was a serious candidate for president. never was a serious veep candidate this time around. the great courtroom lawyer couldn't even beat dickhead cheney last time around. and couldn't carry his home state in 2004 either. a sorry, sorry excuse for a candidate. maybe he can do some good with his private war on poverty. good luck to him on that. but as for a further public career. fuggetaboutit!

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